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Post by phil1996 on May 12, 2010 14:11:23 GMT -5
I'm not liking this much either........I think it would have been a little better if the ''na na na na na's'' were left out.
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Post by what on May 12, 2010 19:18:22 GMT -5
Finally heard it, for the first and last time. Awful lyrics, terrible delivery, repellent arrangement -- I just can't imagine applying the word "music" to material like this, let alone "country music." Hope y'all enjoy the inevitable climb to #1, but this is not for me. Just really really bad. I reserve "worst ever" for songs whose message repels me, and this song isn't a message song -- so I can't call it "worst ever." But it's abominable. It sounds like hearing the song stole your happy? and made zazie cry. but also be preparde for the countless "freaking label is useless - wheres the pop adds date???!!!!" that will inevitably come up in case theres none.
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Post by jptexas on May 13, 2010 9:03:45 GMT -5
Undo It continues to climb the charts. IMO, this song is not a musical masterpiece, but I can't stop tapping my feet to it's beat.
I'll be seeing Carrie tonight. I'm waiting to see how the crowd reacts to this song. Yea, the majority will be Carrie fans, but seeing how people react to different songs sometimes can give an indication of how the song will do overall.
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Post by joey2002 on May 13, 2010 13:25:46 GMT -5
I'll be seeing Carrie tonight. I'm waiting to see how the crowd reacts to this song. Yea, the majority will be Carrie fans, but seeing how people react to different songs sometimes can give an indication of how the song will do overall. If you hear copious amounts of boisterous, lingering boos ... then I might be a bit concerned. ;)
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Post by Ke$haStan on May 13, 2010 21:09:14 GMT -5
I own her first 2 albums, both of which were EPIC, Play On was just ok so I never bought it, but I did download Temporary Home from Itunes, but I ended up never playing it much THIS IS BY FAR MY FAVOURITE CARRIE SINGLE EVER!!! I wish shed release it to pop! Is she gunna be at the finale), Top 3 Performers were already announced an its not her :(
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Post by jessy89 on May 13, 2010 22:14:33 GMT -5
This song is terrible worst song Carries ever released!
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Post by countrygirl918 on May 13, 2010 22:20:38 GMT -5
It's kind of amusing how polarizing this song is.
I really like it. I mean, obviously it's not a lyrical masterpiece, but it's not trying to be. It's a fun summer song, great to sing along with, and should be a huge smash.
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Post by kt1990 on May 14, 2010 7:48:38 GMT -5
Yeah, at first I hated the song, simply because of it's silly lyrics in the chorus. But now I just accept it for what is, a fun anthemic summer song. It's so gonna smash!
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Post by desertfloods on May 14, 2010 8:53:27 GMT -5
Sure, this song is not some masterpiece like SWISLY or JTTW but not all songs need to be deep like that. This song is meant to be light and fun anyway. Although I prefer SLT more, but I think Undo It is a good single choice too.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 14, 2010 12:52:10 GMT -5
Think of it this way, 'you stole my happy' will be the country catch phrase of the year!
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Post by jptexas on May 14, 2010 13:23:41 GMT -5
Well, I went to Carrie's concert last night and, yes, Undo It was one of the highlights. The audience was footstomping along with her and yep, all the "nah, nah, nah, nahs". It'll be a hit, no doubt. Again, it ain't something that will win any awards, but it is what it is, a fun summer song. After Temporary Home, she needed to release something on the lighter side.
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Post by kt1990 on May 14, 2010 16:20:49 GMT -5
Think of it this way, 'you stole my happy' will be the country catch phrase of the year! lol, so true. I seriously think it will become a popular saying everywhere. Just another example of Carrie leaving her mark on popular culture. ;)
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Post by tsharky on May 17, 2010 20:36:17 GMT -5
I think the song is going to be a huge Summer smash! love it!
Sure it's not a deep or inspiring song, but honestly, not every Carrie song needs to be meaningful. In fact, sometimes I get the feeling that both country radio and the public gets a little bit sick of those types of songs. I love JTTW and Change, Temporary Home, etc, but not every song needs to change the world. Sometimes, people just want to crank up the volume, roll down the windows and just have fun. :)
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2010 20:38:10 GMT -5
I think the song is going to be a huge Summer smash! love it! Sure it's not a deep or inspiring song, but honestly, sometimes I get so sick of those types of songs. Not every song needs to change the world. Sometimes, people just want to crank up the volume, roll down the windows and just have fun. :) You couldn't have said it better! Carrie can sing silly (but good) songs, and still sing deep songs and everyone is going to keep playing with them! She is passionate about her music, beauitul, and honest...she's a big role model to people, and country music. If you look at just the lyrics to this song, they do sound rather dumb or silly...but when she sings it, it still somehow is a good song to jam to!!
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Post by jptexas on May 17, 2010 23:53:02 GMT -5
Undo It came in at number 19 on billboard, a week before it's official add date.
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Post by Rurry on May 18, 2010 21:12:55 GMT -5
I really like this. I don't see what there is to hate about it? It's a good catchy song, perfect for summer.
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Post by Gravity. on May 18, 2010 21:14:07 GMT -5
I've finally surrendered. I like this song, cheesy lyrics and all.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on May 18, 2010 22:01:44 GMT -5
I don't see what there is to hate about it? Which probably means you haven't had the courtesy to read this thread, where several people, even those who like "Undo It," have pointed out what they see as its flaws. You are welcome to disagree with those comments, but it is impolite to act like those posts don't exist. Having fully read the thread prior to posting is also important to avoid making repetitive posts and spurring circular arguments. As it happens, both are happening in this thread. I thought tsharky's post on this page looked familiar, and sure enough, she said just about the exact same thing on page 3 of this thread. One shouldn't be posting if one can't genuinely add something new, and stating an opinion once needs to be enough. As I've said before, I'm not a fan of posts that veer toward extremes, and I'm not a fan of opinions posted without any development or support. The trend in the last couple of pages is toward a repetitive back & forth featuring declarative and unsupported one-liners trashing or defending the song. I'm willing to field a debate about a song, but not one that is a ping-pong match of declarative one-liners (and repeat ones at that). This isn't some game where the last word determines the winner, and is not to be treated as such. If you have nothing genuinely new, substantive and fleshed out to add to the conversation in this thread, there is no reason to post in it.
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Post by what on May 19, 2010 2:12:43 GMT -5
so who was the real culprit for "you stole my happy"? i just found another kara co-write that goes like: finally made it through the lonely to the other side what is with the "confusion" bet nouns and adjcetives?
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Post by kt1990 on May 19, 2010 7:10:12 GMT -5
I don't see what there is to hate about it? Which probably means you haven't had the courtesy to read this thread, where several people, even those who like "Undo It," have pointed out what they see as its flaws. You are welcome to disagree with those comments, but it is impolite to act like those posts don't exist. Having fully read the thread prior to posting is also important to avoid making repetitive posts and spurring circular arguments. Or maybe he has read this thread, is fully aware that the previous posts exist, but simply doesn't agree (as you theorized)?It seems to me that his last question was merely him soliloquizing his befuddlement at other people's hatred for the song and not, as you perceived, him merely trying to spur circular arguments. Concerning tsharky, she was recently banned and that original post was made before her banning. After a two-week absence maybe she had entirely forgotten that she had already posted in this thread. Do you expect her to tediously check through every post to positively determine whether she had already posted? I think that is an overambitious demand for posters, especially if the thread has several pages. You shouldn't assume the worst of posters; it will probably result in making people more reluctant to post in the Country forum. I know you're the moderator and only want to keep things under control and avoid repetitious posts, but the last thing we want is a walking-on-eggshells atmosphere here. Everyone should feel free and comfortable to post their opinions. Anyways, I'll add to the discussion. This is already doing well on Billboard so I expect really good things from this single. There could be some really good performances too this summer (Idol finale?, various Country events etc.) I'm not saying that this will be as big as BHC. But I expect big things from this song, it has the potential to be the biggest single from this era.
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Post by kissin'u on May 19, 2010 7:37:52 GMT -5
i hate the video
i love that cmt still plays videos though
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on May 19, 2010 8:07:42 GMT -5
kt1990, if in the future you take issue with a moderator call, you should follow board rules and take it up via PM. I'll end the on-board portion of this conversation by saying that I base my comments on a poster's history and patterns in certain artists' threads, so I'm quite comfortable with the assessment I made. And yes, I do expect people to make an effort not to repeat themselves, especially when they have a history of having done so. I also expect people to read the room and make an effort to avoid circular arguments. We have a higher standard for posting in the Country forum, and people who post here are expected to live up to it.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 19, 2010 11:40:01 GMT -5
so who was the real culprit for "you stole my happy"? i just found another kara co-write that goes like: finally made it through the lonely to the other side what is with the "confusion" bet nouns and adjcetives? I think it's Kara trying too hard to be interesting. She's either way too cliché (Faith Hill's "Lost" made me want to ram a javelin through my ears) or way too convoluted. Well, usually. As I posted earlier, I don't think this is a bad song at all, but it could have a fast burn rate.
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Post by Zazie on May 19, 2010 12:26:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure that mega-cutesiness = fast burn rate. But it does make sense. It's one thing to listen to something saccharine and cute and smile at it; it's another to hear it pumped at you 8 times a day. Or 20 times a day. Dumbed-down cutesiness might raise the burn rate a bit, too.
I'm sure that some listeners will go the other direction -- the more they hear it, the more they'll want to hear it. I'm going to monitor the burn rate for this one.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on May 19, 2010 13:26:59 GMT -5
I don't think "Undo It" is particularly cutesy; I would describe it as going for colloquial and being hit-or-miss in its effort do so. I won't repeat my defense of the use of "my happy" and "the lonely," but I think that, if this song turns out to burn fast, it will be because of the stuttered hook and aggression of the vocal and instrumental delivery. I didn't catch what she said, but Carrie apparently addressed the "uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-undo it" hook during Bob Kingsley's Countdown this past week (I heard a tease in which she noted her initial skepticism when Kara suggested that part, but couldn't stick around to hear Carrie's follow up).
I've been looking at the early callout for the song...Callout America's Total Positive for this song is in the low 40% range, which is a slow start for a Carrie song. We'll see whether the song grows. Its early download success is still a good sign that the song is connecting somewhere, however (could be the help of Radio Disney, I don't know). What's interesting to me for now is that in its first two weeks on the Callout America survey, "Undo It" scored big numbers in the Female 35-44 demo. It was #1 for Passion in that demo in its debut, and I think #3 the following week. I had expected the song to go over better with the 18-24 and 25-34 demos to start, but not yet. Country radio treats females 35-44 as its core, if I'm not mistaken, so the song continuing to test well in that demo would bode well for its airplay prospects.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 19, 2010 13:33:42 GMT -5
^She said something about liking it because she liked Kara's voice.
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Post by what on May 19, 2010 15:08:11 GMT -5
^She said something about liking it because she liked Kara's voice. carries taste is soemtimes really suspect. its not all that bad, and hopeless, since this was the same girl who chose to do a randy travis song for a cover, and an unknown but lovely alan jackson song for another cover (being the alan jackson fangirl i suppose she is). and whos held on to hilary for better or worse. but i seriuosly see nothing amazing or grounbreaking abt kara and her song ideas or songwriting skills. just meh. i do agree that the burn rate might come frome the forced stutter in the chorus. is stutter-singing like that an accepted "skill" in country rdaio? i read a short review how the song likens itself to rihanna's umbreall. but that was pop and this is supposedly country. i do see the colloquail nature you referred to before, and maybe it worked or it could have worked, to some. but to me, it just sparks of lazy writing. it does have the potential to be a hook, i think, apart from the "uh-uh-uh" and "na-na-na" and like someone said previously, the catch phrase of the year.
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Post by countrybamafan on May 20, 2010 2:25:43 GMT -5
Wow #1 for Females 35-44? I never would have expected that, but I guess that's a good thing.
Yea, as others here have stated, I was not happy about this choice initially, but I've warmed up to it. I think it's so stupid I actually like it if that makes any sense (and honestly I'd probably hate it if anyone but Carrie sang it). My sister told me that when some of her friends from school bother her, she's going to say "Quit stealing my happy!" and see what they say lol.
And, what, I agree with you about Carrie's tastes. They're all over the place. Most of the time, I wish Carrie's taste leaned more towards the traditional side, but I guess it's probably a good thing Carrie releases different things to please her fanbase. So, I can handle this release, and I've grown to like it ok. Now, if she decides to release Quitter as a single, Lord help me!
Interesting discussion about the possible quick burnout. Because I love Carrie, I'm going to be pulling for her songs to go to #1 regardless of song quality, so I will be a little bummed if this misses. The fortunate thing is I don't see a lot of competition unlike most of the time when Carrie has singles on the charts. Most of the songs by all the big names should be gone from the Top 10 when Carrie enters. So, as long as Undo It doesn't burn out extremely fast or other songs around it have multiple weeks at the top, I think Carrie should be fine.
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Post by Zazie on May 20, 2010 9:08:56 GMT -5
I don't think "Undo It" is particularly cutesy; I would describe it as going for colloquial and being hit-or-miss in its effort do so. I won't repeat my defense of the use of "my happy" I'll make my point fully instead of using shorthand. When you have to undercut the expression of female anger by adopting the locution of a child, I think you're being cutesy. And a whole lot worse. Of course that's been required of women (and a whole lot worse) for thousands of years, but it rings false now. I don't want to approach songs from an intellectual or literary point of view -- I like smart, well-chosen lyrics but that liking comes from a lifetime of reading and listening, not from sitting back and analyzing. This is popular music, and I listen for the fun of it. But there are certain ideas that just put me off and render me unable to respond well to a song. And since country radio has been pretty ruthless about cutting the airplay of adult women who express themselves like adults (with an exception for Reba), I'm perhaps overreacting -- but I just don't like this pseudo-childlike expression of anger. If there were Pam Tillis songs or Rosanne Cash songs on the radio along with Undo It, I'm pretty sure I'd be seeing this as "to each his own," but my preferred half of this equation is missing.
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Post by Marv on May 20, 2010 9:49:16 GMT -5
I see very little chance that this song could be the dominant single of the summer a la 'Living And Living Well' in 2002, 'Live Like You Were Dying' in 2004, or 'As Good As I Once Was' in 2005.
It will move up quite a bit thanks to a major housecleaning at Mediabase over the next 2-3 weeks, but I won't be surprised if it doesn't hit #1.
If Brad or Miranda can score a month at #1, either of them could stop Josh Turner from having the #1 single of the year at Billboard.
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