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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 11, 2010 17:12:10 GMT -5
That's not good comparison. Rated R came out in the 4th quarter. Plus Ke$ha is on her debut while Rihanna was on her 4th. Yeah, plus Ke$ha, Katy, and Kelly all had huge first singles.
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Post by pokepikalem on Oct 12, 2010 4:01:30 GMT -5
After 6 weeks:Rihana - 499,000 (#14 - 40,000) Kelly - 490,000 (#19 - 19,000) Katy - 437,000 (#18 - 27,000) Ke$ha - 345,000 (#19 - 30,000) Last known totals:Rihanna - 998,000 Ke$ha - 950,000 Kelly - 893,000 Katy - ??? Rihanna's album was released during the holiday season right? ??? so how can we compare?
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Post by Rodze on Oct 12, 2010 8:02:27 GMT -5
LOL It is the only comparison available, people. Katy's album has been out only for 6 weeks. I'm not implying Rihanna is the pop queen because her album has sold the most so far... Both Rihanna's and Kelly's album won't sell much from here; Ke$ha's has been the most consistent and will probably end up selling the most out of the 3; Katy's is still up and it's not looking that much worse than any of the other 3. That is all.
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Post by Rodze on Oct 12, 2010 16:05:08 GMT -5
CHART DATE: 10/11/2010 LAST UPDATE: 10/12/2010 14:03:09 NOW IN: FINAL LW TW artist / album label power index % change -- 1 TOBY KEITH SHOW DOG 69,527 -- BULLETS IN THE GUN 1 2 KENNY CHESNEY BNA/RCA NASHVILLE 64,008 -65% HEMINGWAY'S WHISKEY -- 3 BRUNO MARS NEW ELEKTRA 55,083 -- DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS 5 4 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 52,782 -11% RECOVERY 3 5 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 41,943 -40% YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE 7 6 LINKIN PARK WARNER BROS. 38,345 -10% A THOUSAND SUNS -- 7 WAKA FLOCKA FLAME ASYLUM/WB 36,424 -- FLOCKAVELI 16 8 KATY PERRY CAPITOL/EMI 33,146 +20% TEENAGE DREAM 8 9 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 32,901 -21% PASSION PAIN & PLEASURE 17 10 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 27,413 0% MY WORLD 2.0 9 11 SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE HOLLYWOOD 27,269 -31% A YEAR WITHOUT RAIN -- 12 FAITH EVANS EONE 25,119 -- SOMETHING ABOUT FAITH 10 13 MAROON 5 A&M/OCTONE 25,070 -36% HANDS ALL OVER 18 14 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 35 CAPITOL/EMI 23,986 -10% VARIOUS ARTISTS -- 15 DAVID ARCHULETA 19/JIVE/JLG 23,675 -- OTHER SIDE OF DOWN -- 16 BRING ME THE HORIZON EPITAPH 23,502 -- THERE IS A HELL BELIVE ME I'VE 2 17 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 23,293 -79% I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING -- 18 GUSTER UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 22,105 -- EASY WONDERFUL 13 19 JOHN LEGEND WITH THE ROOTS COLUMBIA 20,384 -33% WAKE UP 4 20 GUCCI MANE ASYLUM/WB 20,142 -67% APPEAL: GEORGIA'S MOST WANTED -- 21 JOHN LENNON CAPITOL/EMI 19,685 -- POWER TO THE PEOPLE 12 22 SANTANA ARISTA/RMG 18,567 -39% GUITAR HEAVEN: GREATEST GUITAR 25 23 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 18,515 -4% SIGH NO MORE 6 24 ERIC CLAPTON REPRISE 16,587 -65% CLAPTON -- 25 PIMP C RAP-A-LOT 16,313 -- NAKED SOUL OF SWEET JONES 23 26 JAMEY JOHNSON MERCURY NASHVILLE 16,268 -23% GUITAR SONG 21 27 BILLY CURRINGTON MERCURY NASHVILLE 15,029 -37% ENJOY YOURSELF 31 28 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 13,951 -13% NEED YOU NOW 27 29 DISTURBED REPRISE 13,370 -25% ASYLUM 30 30 FANTASIA J RECORDS/RMG 13,172 -23% BACK TO ME -- 31 JOHN LENNON & YOKO ONE CAPITOL/EMI 12,129 -- DOUBLE FANTASY STRIPPED DOWN 36 32 DRAKE YM/CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 12,128 -11% THANK ME LATER -- 33 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 11,907 -- LIFE IS GOOD - EP -- 34 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 11,290 -- FAME MONSTER (EP) 15 35 NEIL YOUNG REPRISE 10,386 -63% LE NOISE 40 36 KEM UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 10,383 -13% INTIMACY 14 37 LIL BOOSIE ASYLUM/WB 10,294 -64% INCARCERATED -- 38 KT TUNSTALL VIRGIN/EMI 10,264 -- TIGER SUIT 42 39 USHER LAFACE/JLG 10,045 -15% VERSUS 39 40 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 10,042 -16% FOUNDATION -- 41 JOE SATRIANI EPIC 9,572 -- BLACK SWANS & WORMHOLE WIZARDS -- 42 CHIODOS EQUAL VISION 9,144 -- ILLUMINAUDIO 44 43 RICK ROSS DEF JAM/IDJ 9,125 -13% TEFLON DON 46 44 MIRANDA LAMBERT COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 9,080 -8% REVOLUTION 43 45 SARA BAREILLES EPIC 8,782 -24% KALEIDOSCOPE HEART -- 46 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 8,693 -- BROTHERS 50 47 AVENGED SEVENFOLD WARNER BROS. 8,304 -5% NIGHTMARE 47 48 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 8,280 -14% KIDZ BOP 18 49 49 USHER LAFACE/JLG 7,946 -11% RAYMOND VS. RAYMOND 22 50 ICE CUBE LENCH MOB 7,832 -63%
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Oct 12, 2010 16:18:02 GMT -5
Dear American public: Can you please start buying albums again? You're killing music.
Love, soundscene
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 16:25:06 GMT -5
Dear American public: Can you please start buying albums again? You're killing music. Love, soundscene Dear Soundscene, Thank you for your comment Please tell stores to continue to stock music and to expand their selctions rather than reduce them. Please also have them lower their prices. Please also tell the industry to not load absolutely everything worth buying into November, this makes the rest of the year look pretty bleak. Please tell the industry to focus on the long-term marketing of the album rather than the short term first week out-of-the-box smash. You might also want to tell itunes, to discontinue the practice of a-la-carte singles to encourage the purchase of more albums. Love, The American public ;)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 16:27:34 GMT -5
I see they misread Kenny Chesney numbers
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Post by Diego on Oct 12, 2010 16:32:06 GMT -5
AWESOME rise for Katy, the biggest (and only?!?!) increase! Good to see Justin holding well too
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Post by when the pawn... on Oct 12, 2010 16:40:01 GMT -5
LP is holding up relatively well, at least compared to M5.
Good for Eminem, Bruno, Justin, Katy, Mumford & GaGa. I assume Katy's jump is leftover from SNL? Bodes well for Bruno.
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Post by lugus15 on Oct 12, 2010 17:10:07 GMT -5
Did Lady GaGa's Fame dropped more than 40% this week???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 17:33:53 GMT -5
What is this?
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Post by microcuts on Oct 12, 2010 17:51:48 GMT -5
Looks like a digital only Live EP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 17:53:29 GMT -5
Yes it is - looks like it did pretty well too
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Post by pnobelysk on Oct 12, 2010 18:31:41 GMT -5
if numbers hold justin gets another week in the top 10
wish achuleta was higher, hopefully this album can cross 100k
it is weird the fame is not listed, yet the fame monster ep is. when the fame has been selling more
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 18:44:51 GMT -5
That's not good comparison. Rated R came out in the 4th quarter. Plus Ke$ha is on her debut while Rihanna was on her 4th. Yeah, plus Ke$ha, Katy, and Kelly all had huge first singles. Hmm yeah. That and the fact that their albums weren't released at such a competitive time I guess. It's a weird comparison but all the different factors kind of even it out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 18:56:15 GMT -5
The thing is with any artist is that shifting your sound so dramatically like that so quickly (especially considering she had really just sort of established herself with GGGB) is always a huge risk. Look at Kelly Clarkson and "My December". Prior to that, she had sold 15 million records and that album didn't go anywhere because it was too far left from what was selling. "Rated R" had a rough start but it held up pretty well thanks to Rude Boy and it could have gone further had they handled it better after that. I thought once they saw how well RB did, they would try and push more of the commercial sounding songs (Te Amo, Photographs) but they went right back against the mainstream and pushed "Rockstar" which failed for the same reason "Russian Roulette" did and pretty much killed the era. Rihanna has taken a hit because of that era so that will probably impact "Loud" initially but if she handles this era with well then I think she could get right back to where she was during the GGGB era by the end of this era. It's obvious the public will accept happy, upbeat Rihanna so as long as she sticks to that and doesn't try anything crazy then she will be fine in the long run. Good point but truth be told she did have her most successful era with GGGB but it was a re-release and there was a lot of hype too. Kelly made a huge mistake and I still can't understand why these artists are so out to prove their artistry...the artistry will keep your longevity (release that $ht after a few solid albums) but while you are hot you need to service the fans and not go left. off of my soapbox nowRiri actually admitting that her fans don't know the real her does concern me...it makes these changes seem more gimmicky and not organic. I hope that she finally gets her #1 album and does not struggle to sell platinum. It's a shame that she is close to ranking amongst the best when it comes to #1's, top 10's so on and so forth but her most successful release went 2x platinum due to a re-release...doesn't make sense I agree so much with that 2nd paragraph. Artists need to be careful of not ruining what they have and take time to build up and secure their fanbase before straying off. That's exactly what has worked for Britney and Beyonce and their careers. They carefully established and developed themselves throughout the years and now have a stable following behind them now. In regards to the 3rd paragraph, her most successful release sold over 7 million globally which is why it's seen as a huge accomplishment. Everybody knows by now Rihanna's WW appeal > her American appeal....it shows in her sales as well as her tours. Her European legs were very successful and it was only when it hit hit the US that it had some problems in certain states.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 12, 2010 20:02:21 GMT -5
What the hell is this?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 20:20:25 GMT -5
2010 release. Out of Atlanta, Georgia by way of Jamaica, Queens, New York comes a unique and undeniable force poised to be a forced to reckon with in the music industry: Juaquin Malphurs better known as Waka Flocka Flame, Waka Flocka, or just plain old Waka for short. Either way, each designation conveys a piece of who this enigmatic performer is and what he has to offer. At 23 years of age, Waka Flocka artist is the youngest member of the So Icey Boyz - a popular Atlanta-based Rap group signed to Gucci Mane's So Icey Entertainment/1017 Brick Squad, which he joined in 2004.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 22:39:32 GMT -5
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Post by badrobot on Oct 12, 2010 23:58:54 GMT -5
Good point but truth be told she did have her most successful era with GGGB but it was a re-release and there was a lot of hype too. Kelly made a huge mistake and I still can't understand why these artists are so out to prove their artistry...the artistry will keep your longevity (release that $ht after a few solid albums) but while you are hot you need to service the fans and not go left. off of my soapbox nowRiri actually admitting that her fans don't know the real her does concern me...it makes these changes seem more gimmicky and not organic. I hope that she finally gets her #1 album and does not struggle to sell platinum. It's a shame that she is close to ranking amongst the best when it comes to #1's, top 10's so on and so forth but her most successful release went 2x platinum due to a re-release...doesn't make sense I agree so much with that 2nd paragraph. Artists need to be careful of not ruining what they have and take time to build up and secure their fanbase before straying off. That's exactly what has worked for Britney and Beyonce and their careers. They carefully established and developed themselves throughout the years and now have a stable following behind them now. Couldn't disagree more. Some people are not in their careers solely to make money and have fans. If a musician wants to focus on making music they love, that is totally up to them, and it is certainly not "ruining what they have." I actually disagree with you to the point where it makes me angry. Ugh.
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Post by musicrocks on Oct 13, 2010 0:34:38 GMT -5
I agree so much with that 2nd paragraph. Artists need to be careful of not ruining what they have and take time to build up and secure their fanbase before straying off. That's exactly what has worked for Britney and Beyonce and their careers. They carefully established and developed themselves throughout the years and now have a stable following behind them now. Couldn't disagree more. Some people are not in their careers solely to make money and have fans. If a musician wants to focus on making music they love, that is totally up to them, and it is certainly not "ruining what they have." I actually disagree with you to the point where it makes me angry. Ugh. I'm also disagreeing. While money is an important objective, making and releasing music is about expressing yourself and doing what is you, not what anyone else wants you to be. Artists should be applauded for going out their safe zones to do what is them as an artist. They can do the stuff that sells and that fans know and love about them, but what is it to say that being themselves is not that too? And if not, that's okay too. (Hope that last part made sense lol)
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Post by Wave. on Oct 13, 2010 0:39:12 GMT -5
What the hell is this? -- 7 WAKA FLOCKA FLAME ASYLUM/WB 36,424 -- FLOCKAVELI
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 13, 2010 2:07:57 GMT -5
Quite close sales in Top 10 again
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 9:49:24 GMT -5
I agree so much with that 2nd paragraph. Artists need to be careful of not ruining what they have and take time to build up and secure their fanbase before straying off. That's exactly what has worked for Britney and Beyonce and their careers. They carefully established and developed themselves throughout the years and now have a stable following behind them now. Couldn't disagree more. Some people are not in their careers solely to make money and have fans. If a musician wants to focus on making music they love, that is totally up to them, and it is certainly not "ruining what they have." I actually disagree with you to the point where it makes me angry. Ugh. I understand what you're saying and I still applaud them for taking the risks (Rated R is my favorite Rihanna album btw) but I'm speaking more on the business aspect and the sake of their careers in the long run especially since these artists will more likely go right back to making more commercial sounding music on their next albums for the very sake of trying to get back into the mainstream and recapturing their past sales/fanbase (ie. All I Ever Wanted/Loud) after an era like that. I'm not saying that they should never try something new or make albums like that but I'm saying they should be careful not to rush into such a drastic change so quickly before they've properly established themselves.
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Post by badrobot on Oct 13, 2010 9:58:51 GMT -5
And yet often taking risks is what establishes artists as successful in the first place.
I think it was Roger Ebert who said that when he reviews a film, he judges it based on the merits of what the director was trying to achieve. I think the same thing can be applied to music.
If an artist is trying to score a super-successful pop smash and ends up with something that may be creatively solid but commercially unappealing, then you could say they "failed." But if an artist is trying to make great music regardless of whether they score a pop hit or not, then their commercial success/failure is irrelevant.
Kelly's "My December" and Rihanna's "Rated R" were both, arguably, albums about personal expression rather than attempts to just have a bunch of hits. But both did reasonably well anyway (Rated R moreso) and neither was really THAT far off what they artist had done before.
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