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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 2:15:15 GMT -5
The longer shelf life of Taylor Swift albums will mean Taylor Swift wins in the long run
Grammy's are a short burst at best
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Post by GRRR on Jan 14, 2011 3:11:24 GMT -5
Lol at Cake! But hey a #1 album even with those sells is still good right?  |
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 14, 2011 3:13:21 GMT -5
It's only 300K behind it, and it'll keep selling consistently through the year. Just wait till "Sparks Fly" and "The Story of Us" are released. It's important not to forget, however, that Eminem has a remaining advantage himself.........the Grammy hype. Even if he doesn't win in some key categories, he'll certainly get a boost from this year's awards show. Plus, if he releases, "Talkin' 2 Myself", I think he'll quite likely rebound from the radio lull that "No Love" predictably gave him. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus And Taylor won't have Grammy hype come next year? Notice how Taylor's debut which is over four years old is still in the top 100 on the B200. Not saying it will, but it's possible Speak Now could still be in the top 100 3-4 years from now if her popularity doesn't wane. In which case she would easily outsell every other album released last year and probably this year as well. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 14, 2011 3:30:13 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 14, 2011 3:47:46 GMT -5
consistant sales for Katy once again. :)
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Post by stanr on Jan 14, 2011 5:32:21 GMT -5
OMG. pathetic numbers
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 14, 2011 10:46:04 GMT -5
I find it interesting that the sales of the bottom 150 of the BB200 seem fairly consistent without record lows down there. It's only the top 50 where things have been eroding away.
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Post by Honeymoon on Jan 14, 2011 11:38:43 GMT -5
I find it interesting that the sales of the bottom 150 of the BB200 seem fairly consistent without record lows down there. It's only the top 50 where things have been eroding away. Which proves that it's not just 'pathetic january sales' but a shitty release schedule. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 14, 2011 12:09:30 GMT -5
Yes- that and that overall weekly album sales may not reach a new SoundScan-era low (at least for this week).
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Post by Choco on Jan 14, 2011 12:16:23 GMT -5
The longer shelf life of Taylor Swift albums will mean Taylor Swift wins in the long run Grammy's are a short burst at best Yes. They help for a week or two but then it all goes back to normal. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 14, 2011 13:47:12 GMT -5
And Taylor won't have Grammy hype come next year? Notice how Taylor's debut which is over four years old is still in the top 100 on the B200. Not saying it will, but it's possible Speak Now could still be in the top 100 3-4 years from now if her popularity doesn't wane. In which case she would easily outsell every other album released last year and probably this year as well. Recovery could still be in the Top 100 3-4 years from now as well. LOL. As of right now it's looking like Speak Now may only outsell Recovery by 11-18K this week. My guess is by the time Grammy season rolls around Recovery will be above Speak Now on the album chart and it would have been released way before speak now. Eminem albums have a long shelf life to btw 2m. The Marshall Mathers LP is in the Billboard 200 this week. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 14:51:15 GMT -5
And Taylor won't have Grammy hype come next year? Notice how Taylor's debut which is over four years old is still in the top 100 on the B200. Not saying it will, but it's possible Speak Now could still be in the top 100 3-4 years from now if her popularity doesn't wane. In which case she would easily outsell every other album released last year and probably this year as well. Recovery could still be in the Top 100 3-4 years from now as well. LOL. As of right now it's looking like Speak Now may only outsell Recovery by 11-18K this week. My guess is by the time Grammy season rolls around Recovery will be above Speak Now on the album chart and it would have been released way before speak now. Eminem albums have a long shelf life to btw 2m. The Marshall Mathers LP is in the Billboard 200 this week. Yes We are comparing Taylor Swift to Eminem Taylor Swift's 2006 album is at #114 this week in its 220th chart week No other Eminem album has come close to that. Eminem's catalog chart's sporadically (most catalog for other artists don't even do that) Taylor Swift's main catalog however has thus far charted continuously (excluding Christmas titles and promotional EPs) |
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 14, 2011 15:15:40 GMT -5
This is a lot like the Blueprint 3, Relapse Debate. Relapse has still sold more than the Blueprint 3.
I'm thinking this is going to turn out the same way. Recovery will sell more than Speak Now.
Also, whats with people assuming this swift album will have the same longevity as her previous ones. Don't know where that is coming from. Right now Em has a comfortable lead. In a few weeks it will chart higher than Speak Now. So it would have been out longer, having sold more than speak now, and charting higher than Speak Now.
Seems Em has the advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 15:21:13 GMT -5
Right now, it is safe to assume longevity for the new Taylor Swift album.
The first 2 albums are still charting. It is unlikely the new album will disappear anytime soon, given that her catalog is consistently in the top 200. In other words, you won't see a scenario where the 2006 album is charting and 'Speak Now' is not
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 14, 2011 16:29:14 GMT -5
i deff think speak now will out sell recovery. i think speak now will be a big holiday seller for 2011, while recovery willl be selling too i think speak now will be selling much more
eminem should really have a 4th single for this project.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 14, 2011 16:30:04 GMT -5
cake's highest peak so far is 13  |
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 14, 2011 16:39:07 GMT -5
I will be happy if Cake get's it. Not a fave band of mine but as i said "Never There" and "Short Skirt, Long Jacket" are fantastic tracks from there earlier albums. So at least it's a band that has been around a while.
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Post by Rodze on Jan 15, 2011 9:43:54 GMT -5
I find it interesting that the sales of the bottom 150 of the BB200 seem fairly consistent without record lows down there. It's only the top 50 where things have been eroding away. I remember reading about a record low #200 last year. It is also of note the BB200 was already changed more than 1 year ago to include catalog sales, which helps softening the blow for the lower parts of the charts. |
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Jan 16, 2011 18:34:06 GMT -5
I want so bad Cage the Elephant @ #1
SO PLEASE GO BUY IT LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 18:41:21 GMT -5
Ciara should have released this week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 18:43:39 GMT -5
If #1 is the goal, would not have helped. Ciara doesn't have enough of a following to move 40K in a week any more
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Post by worldwide on Jan 16, 2011 18:51:52 GMT -5
Ciara should have released this week. you think she'd sell the same amount but she wouldn't, her numbers would be only smaller. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 18:56:00 GMT -5
yes
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Post by Honeymoon on Jan 16, 2011 20:54:33 GMT -5
Ciara should have released this week. you think she'd sell the same amount but she wouldn't, her numbers would be only smaller. She'd be top ten at least |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jan 16, 2011 21:03:25 GMT -5
you think she'd sell the same amount but she wouldn't, her numbers would be only smaller. She'd be top ten at least She should've waited until she had another hit. It doesn't make sense to put out an album no one's checking for. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 21:03:31 GMT -5
During one of the busiest music weeks of the year, it only managed 36K, and got beat out by a large number of albums that had been out for weeks or even months.
That certainly doesn't mean it would get 36K if it were released this week
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 1:13:38 GMT -5
Oh, true.  But then again...maybe releasing on one of the busiest weeks caused it to be overshadowed by the large amount of other albums? A quiet week might have made her album stand out a little more on shelves. |
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Post by swim on Jan 17, 2011 11:40:09 GMT -5
This is a lot like the Blueprint 3, Relapse Debate. Relapse has still sold more than the Blueprint 3. I'm thinking this is going to turn out the same way. Recovery will sell more than Speak Now. Also, whats with people assuming this swift album will have the same longevity as her previous ones. Don't know where that is coming from. Right now Em has a comfortable lead. In a few weeks it will chart higher than Speak Now. So it would have been out longer, having sold more than speak now, and charting higher than Speak Now. Seems Em has the advantage. It's kinda the same as you assuming Recovery will chart higher than Speak Now. Where's your evidence or history that this will happen? Other than Grammy week, which, usually only boosts sales for a week, will be Eminem's only legit shot at charting higher than Speak now at this point. I'm not saying it couldn't happen more than once, but there's nothing factual for me to believe that this is going to be a common thing in the future. Taylor's albums having longevity is a real reason to believe this album will keep selling well throughout 2011. Fearless and her debut are still charting. Are we really supposed to believe Speak Now is going to fall to these levels or below when her four year old album has consistently been in the Top 200? I'm not "out to get you" because I like Eminem a lot compared to other rappers, but it seems your logic is blocked by your fascination with Eminem. You do know if and when Speak Now surpasses Recovery, you'll never hear the end of it here from some people. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 17, 2011 11:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 17, 2011 11:45:38 GMT -5
ONE year ago:
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But then again...maybe releasing on one of the busiest weeks caused it to be overshadowed by the large amount of other albums? A quiet week might have made her album stand out a little more on shelves.