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Post by Kevin on May 31, 2011 18:15:07 GMT -5
Those are some amazing sales for Lady Gaga! You gotta give her some props for the extraordinary achievement!
I love both Britney and Gaga but comparing their first week sales is like apples and oranges: different promotional vehicles, different ways of acquiring music, different sales climate, different length of promotion (in terms of time), luck...
Be happy that good music is selling well and that consumers are willing to spend!
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Post by Lockheart on May 31, 2011 18:15:53 GMT -5
Oh, geesh. Here we go again
- Britney sold more than GaGa in a week. No arguments there - BTW sold more than OIDIA in terms of percentage album sold in a week. No argument there - Both sold a million. Britney had the advantage of riding the teen pop craze, not really 'cause it was available in more retail outlets. GaGa had the advantage of the two day 99 cents deal by Amazon. - Both are amazing feats, then and now. No, GaGa's feat is not any more as incredible as Britney. - There's no point of making one's debut better than the other, no matter how many factors you throw
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:17:11 GMT -5
oh come on - all hail Queen Britney!
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 31, 2011 18:17:34 GMT -5
However, the comment quoted was moreso directed towards Britney fanatcs who cannot accept that Gaga could, perhaps, sell 1,000,000+ despite this weaker climate. They were seemingly creating reasons to explain these sales as though they were unbelievable.Proof: oh and don't forget she had full 7days(7.5) week of sales when Oops... had only 6 yeah and you are trying to create gaga bigger than she is by saying about bad selling climate etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:18:38 GMT -5
If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album?
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Post by Lockheart on May 31, 2011 18:21:31 GMT -5
If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? GaGa has a big fan base to begin with. Denying that the Amazon promotion didn't help propel GaGa's sales to more than a million is ignorance. Take your Britney hate somewhere else.
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Post by Oprah on May 31, 2011 18:21:37 GMT -5
Please, if this had been 2000 when album sales were at their peak.... Gaga would've done N'Sync like numbers. Don't hate! Maybe, maybe not. Times are different period. Whose to say an act like Gaga would'ave even been popular in 2000. The music climate is much different now than it was back then and what's widely acceptable now wasn't back then. The point isn't so much how much Gaga would've sold in 2000 as it is how much this would sell if sales today weren't a fraction of what they were then. Whether she would've been big in the cultural setting ten years ago is moot; the question is what would sales be like today if the market weren't in tatters.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:22:43 GMT -5
yeah and you are trying to create gaga bigger than she is by saying about bad selling climate etc. No, but she deserves additional credit. She may not have sold more than Britney, but the fact that she almost reached her should count, no? If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? Are you denying that this "weaker sales climate" exists?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:26:08 GMT -5
yeah and you are trying to create gaga bigger than she is by saying about bad selling climate etc. No, but she deserves additional credit. She may not have sold more than Britney, but the fact that she almost reached her should count, no? If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? Are you denying that this "weaker sales climate" exists? LOL - if you read my earlier posts, I am not denying that a weaker sales climate exists - IN GENERAL I am denying that "weaker sales climate" exists for EVENT albums.
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Post by devil on May 31, 2011 18:31:21 GMT -5
yeah and you are trying to create gaga bigger than she is by saying about bad selling climate etc. No, but she deserves additional credit. She may not have sold more than Britney, but the fact that she almost reached her should count, no? If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? Are you denying that this "weaker sales climate" exists? Of course Gaga deserves credit, these opening figures are beyond belief amazing. But the fact is it didn't top "OIDIA". Britney did better. End of. Take away the 'climate', '7 day week', '99 cents' blah blah blah - Britney has the highest first week sales for a female. It doesn't take anything away from what Gaga has achieved. But anyone trying to act like this outdid "OIDIA" is wrong, based simply on the hard numbers.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:31:29 GMT -5
If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? GaGa has a big fan base to begin with. Denying that the Amazon promotion didn't help propel GaGa's sales to more than a million is ignorance. Take your Britney hate somewhere else. I don't care one way or the other if Gaga sold more than Britney or Britney sold more than Gaga. I agree with the people that say the two events are not comparable. I do not agree that "1.1 m today is like xxx in 2000" I do not agree that Gaga's is more impressive than Britney's I do not agree that Britney's is more impressive than Gaga's
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 31, 2011 18:32:12 GMT -5
If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? Please, Gaga was projected to sell 750k - 900k regardless of the Amazon promotion. Some people said why spend 10 bucks if I can spend 99 cents and get the same thing. Let Amazon pay for Gaga's album. To answer your question what were albums sales during Britney's first week of sales and lets compare that to what album sales are during Lady Gaga's first week of sales?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:35:04 GMT -5
Billboard is reporting Gaga at 1.108m
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 31, 2011 18:35:55 GMT -5
oh and don't forget she had full 7days(7.5) week of sales when Oops... had only 6 and 15.99$ >>>0.99$ ;) That's not true OIDIA sold for 9.99
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 31, 2011 18:36:00 GMT -5
yeah and you are trying to create gaga bigger than she is by saying about bad selling climate etc. No, but she deserves additional credit. She may not have sold more than Britney, but the fact that she almost reached her should count, no? well if you look closely to the numbers it's almost 20% different so it's not that close
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:36:44 GMT -5
Soundscan 10 biggest one-week sales
1 4/8/2000 No Strings Attached 'N Sync 2,415,859 2 8/11/2001 Celebrity 'N Sync 1,879,955 3 6/10/2000 The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem 1,760,049 4 12/9/2000 Black & Blue Backstreet Boys 1,591,191 5 6/15/2002 The Eminem Show Eminem 1,321,799 6 6/3/2000 Oops...I Did It Again Britney Spears 1,319,193 7 1/6/2001 1 The Beatles 1,258,667 8 3/19/2005 The Massacre 50 Cent 1,140,638 9 6/5/1999 Millennium Backstreet Boys 1,133,505 10 6/11/2011 Born This Way Lady Gaga 1,108,000
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 31, 2011 18:36:53 GMT -5
oh and don't forget she had full 7days(7.5) week of sales when Oops... had only 6 and 15.99$ >>>0.99$ ;) That's not true OIDIA sold for 9.99
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 31, 2011 18:37:47 GMT -5
The 7 day week argument doesn't really hold up too well in my book. People who bought Monday just would've bought on Tuesday. The difference would've been minute. 6 vs 7 days makes no difference.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 31, 2011 18:38:42 GMT -5
I believe Gaga has a higher percentage of total album sales this week than Britney did in 2000 when her album was released. That's really the bottom line. If someone would like to prove me wrong I am certainly willing to listen. Fine See my previous post on this though. I would argue that although CD sales are down from 2000 IN GENERAL. This is not true for high profile albums It takes a special release to draw 1 million people in a week, reagrdless of the era Katy Perry, Rihanna... I dont think anything else needs to be said. Lots of high profile albums don't sell that well out of the box. Katy Perry is a prime example of your expectations not being inline with reality.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:42:18 GMT -5
Fine See my previous post on this though. I would argue that although CD sales are down from 2000 IN GENERAL. This is not true for high profile albums It takes a special release to draw 1 million people in a week, reagrdless of the era Katy Perry, Rihanna... I dont think anything else needs to be said. Lots of high profile albums don't sell that well out of the box. Katy Perry is a prime example of your expectations not being inline with reality. Wrong choice of words I should have said EVENT albums
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 31, 2011 18:42:55 GMT -5
The 7 day week argument doesn't really hold up too well in my book. People who bought Monday just would've bought on Tuesday. The difference would've been minute. 6 vs 7 days makes no difference. lol you are not good at algeba shame on you. You want to say that 'oops..' on day no 7 didn't sold any copy? if oops had full 7 day week it would sell like 150,000 more
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 31, 2011 18:48:29 GMT -5
The 7 day week argument doesn't really hold up too well in my book. People who bought Monday just would've bought on Tuesday. The difference would've been minute. 6 vs 7 days makes no difference. lol you are not good at algeba shame on you. You want to say that 'oops..' on day no 7 didn't sold any copy? if oops had full 7 day week it would sell like 150,000 more You're stating the obvious. I'm just saying that in terms of opening weeks (at least in today's climate), 6 vs 7 days make little difference. I could be wrong, but we'll never know.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on May 31, 2011 18:48:58 GMT -5
From Billboard: "It's estimated that AmazonMP3 sold upwards of 440,000 downloads of its 99-cent "Born This Way" album." 40% of sales came from 99 cent promo. Can you imagine if MiMi did this for Memoirs or any other album? It's interesting that a month ago Record Execs thought she would only move 400,000.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 31, 2011 18:52:05 GMT -5
Can we not turn this thread into an absolute fucking car crash again please? The numbers are in, they're incredible, chill the fuck out.
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Post by chartfreak on May 31, 2011 18:53:38 GMT -5
At this point this whole 1 million thing is so anticlimatic.
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Post by Haley on May 31, 2011 18:56:17 GMT -5
There's really no point in comparing album's first week sales', especially a decade ago when the music sales climate was much more different. Let's not beat a dead horse and continue these fanwars, because regardless both sides will always think they're the ones "right" here.
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Post by doak on May 31, 2011 18:59:48 GMT -5
If it is such a "bad sales climate", why did 1 million people buy the album? GaGa has a big fan base to begin with. Denying that the Amazon promotion didn't help propel GaGa's sales to more than a million is ignorance. Take your Britney hate somewhere else. Agreed. I mean, I would never buy this album and I thought hard about it when I heard about the .99 cent deal. I'm sure there were dozen of general music listeners out there who did the same. Those saying she would of sold X amount of albums in the early 2000s are just being silly. Give X the 2 day .99 cent deal back in the early 2000s and I'm sure they would of done more.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 31, 2011 19:13:40 GMT -5
GaGa has a big fan base to begin with. Denying that the Amazon promotion didn't help propel GaGa's sales to more than a million is ignorance. Take your Britney hate somewhere else. Agreed. I mean, I would never buy this album and I thought hard about it when I heard about the .99 cent deal. I'm sure there were dozen of general music listeners out there who did the same. Those saying she would of sold X amount of albums in the early 2000s are just being silly. Give X the 2 day .99 cent deal back in the early 2000s and I'm sure they would of done more. How long did you have to wait for the album to download? vs. going to the record store and picking it up and start listening to it in 20 minutes after paying for it. Time is money as well. You have to like an album or an artist to invest the hours in downloading the album.
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Post by David on May 31, 2011 20:20:50 GMT -5
Get those amazing sales GaGa!
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Post by slw84 on May 31, 2011 20:24:38 GMT -5
oh come on - all hail Queen Britney! LOLIA but let Gaga have her shine...this is a great week for her ;)
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