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Post by forg on Mar 6, 2012 19:14:12 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I am actually sort of looking forward to a boyband comeback in America. For the past few years we have had an endless stream of pop girls wearing slinky clothing, bright colors, and making mostly similar sounding music to one another. Very few actual male pop acts have been successful lately. Yes, I realize there have been a few-I just mean on a whole. It will be interesting to see if boybands can take a little of the pop attention back to them. Even though I'm well aware both The Wanted and One Direction are essentially male groups........."Glad You Came" has never once struck me as what would sound like a "boy band" track, categorically. I initially thought it was a solo dance-centric male vocalist when I heard it, frankly. I haven't even heard "What Makes You Beautiful" yet, though. But from what I gather, if The Wanted is any indication..........I find it suspect we can even consider these groups "boy bands". By that logic, Train and Maroon 5 would have to be boy bands too (alright, man bands, whatever! ;) ). Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS What Makes You Beautiful is a very 90s boyband type of track. Agree with Glad You Came though, it doesn't sound like the usual cookie-cutter boyband track, I won't be surprised if Glad You Came will do better than What Makes You Beautiful especially on airplay
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 6, 2012 20:45:56 GMT -5
My bad about the "4 Minutes" airplay peak but surely Nicki Minaj is just as much as a chart force as Timberlake/Timbaland was in 2008? I truly believe it's down to the song itself, which many (not just myself) seem to think isn't as strong as "4 Minutes" let alone her previous work. I don't know about you but the GMAYL video looks like it cost a pretty penny and I saw quite a few ads for the song/album pre-order at the time of the Superbowl so that's why I brought up the money thing. Either way, this is all going in circles... my point was that considering the huge Superbowl campaign, this has been an underwhelming performance for the single. And considering there's already little interest for single #2 (we still have the video to come, mind) isn't a great sign for the album past week #1. But we'll just have to wait and see :) Nicki Minaj has been on at least a 100 tracks in the past 2 years, no one cares anymore. Justin Timberlake had a lot more hype. nicki is big, but the main format for the madonna single was pop, so id have to give it to JT and Timbaland on this one. nicki while having super bass, hasnt had any other leading top 10 pop hits *starships released after GAYL mind you, so i think justins force is a lot stronger to deal with considering all the nsync success plus his two solo albums being huge.
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Post by davidprincess on Mar 6, 2012 21:33:02 GMT -5
woo, pitbull international love' still top 20 on itunes after 6 months of being out! that's a true hit supported by the public, I love how IL grew naturally without payola. That was a deserving top 10 on the billboard, but it was blocked.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2012 21:43:25 GMT -5
^It had dropped out of the top 20, but, yah, it's No. 20 right now. Glad you enjoy it, but Pitbull does absolutely nothing for me (same for Chris Brown, except "Forever"). I mean, I can tolerate his tracks if they're on the radio, whatever, but have no interest in hearing them otherwise.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 7, 2012 2:23:21 GMT -5
I think "no cares anymore" is a bit harsh. She currently has a top ten single that's on the rise. Of course people care about her solo material but there are thousands of songs featuring her around so it's not a big issue any more. That was also the case with Justin when he started running around singing on other people's songs (Snoop Dogg, The Lonely Island, Reba, Esmee Denters, Jamie Foxx....)
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Post by josh on Mar 7, 2012 17:34:14 GMT -5
I have a question. I bought The Black Eyed Peas' Elephunk/Monkey Business double pack thing from iTunes, and Ke$ha's Annimal/Cannibal double pack. Does anyone know how those count towards album sales? 1 to the combo, or 1 sale to each album? Thanks :)
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 8, 2012 10:56:07 GMT -5
Why is IWALY (Whitney) climbing again?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 8, 2012 11:10:09 GMT -5
^American Idol.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Mar 8, 2012 14:52:47 GMT -5
I have a question. I bought The Black Eyed Peas' Elephunk/Monkey Business double pack thing from iTunes, and Ke$ha's Annimal/Cannibal double pack. Does anyone know how those count towards album sales? 1 to the combo, or 1 sale to each album? Thanks :) That's a very good question. I would like to know the same thing. Someone answer him! Lol
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Post by josh on Mar 8, 2012 15:37:37 GMT -5
Another question! Do the American Idol contestants get paid for the downloads of their songs? I saw the Top 13 had their songs on there, so does the individual contestant get paid per download of his/her song? Or just Fox?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 21:47:17 GMT -5
114. Live My Life (feat. Justin Bieber) - Far East Movement
They pulled an "I Do"
This was #2 exactly a week ago...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 21:53:20 GMT -5
Another question! Do the American Idol contestants get paid for the downloads of their songs? I saw the Top 13 had their songs on there, so does the individual contestant get paid per download of his/her song? Or just Fox? Good question...I remember hearing or reading that the glee people actually never see a cent of the download money so probably the same for the AI Crew...once the original artists/writers are paid plus the record company takes their share and itunes get their cut I doubt their's much left for the cover artists.
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Post by kingofpain on Mar 8, 2012 22:26:46 GMT -5
Wow what is "I Can't Stop By" Flux Pavilion (at #49 on itunes) and where did it come from???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 22:35:09 GMT -5
I think that song was used in that KONY 2012 video.
Also Jay-Z & Kanye sample it in one of their songs.
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 8, 2012 22:38:08 GMT -5
70 Karmin - Brokenhearted 0.0768 0.0768 0.0768 LOL!
$0.69 on iTunes until April 2 apparently! :o
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 9, 2012 16:43:34 GMT -5
What in the world is wrong with iTunes? Scotty McReery jumps from nothing to #1, Madonna's #2, and the #100 song is selling what the typical #7-#11 song sells.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 16:48:57 GMT -5
Glitch. When I first saw it, I actually thought Madonna somehow got to #2.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 9, 2012 17:21:31 GMT -5
Glitch. When I first saw it, I actually thought Madonna somehow got to #2. What an odd glitch- it's the top 100 in descending order of releasing date!
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Post by josh on Mar 9, 2012 17:22:06 GMT -5
Just checked Kworb and was like WHATTTTTTTTT? Madonna at #2??? John at #1??? Where is fun and everything omg wtf asdlawpeoinzspvnweaslnd!?!?!!?!!!?
So random.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 8:53:45 GMT -5
Another question! Do the American Idol contestants get paid for the downloads of their songs? I saw the Top 13 had their songs on there, so does the individual contestant get paid per download of his/her song? Or just Fox? Good question...I remember hearing or reading that the glee people actually never see a cent of the download money so probably the same for the AI Crew...once the original artists/writers are paid plus the record company takes their share and itunes get their cut I doubt their's much left for the cover artists. Actually I remember right after season 8 someone asked Kris Allen this question and he said that they do in fact get paid for the downloads. I forgot how much he said they get from each download but I recall it being a decent percentage...my guess is that the downloads is the one thing that the show doesn't seek to make money from b/c it's really pocket change compared to the advertising revenue that they make; they don't have to be greedy here. Glee is probably different b/c their contracts are structured differently. They are salaried actors on a scripted show, whereas the Idol contestants only get base union pay (AFTRA) per episode and have no idea if they'll even be around for the next show. They're not treated as actors so much as working musicians getting basic pay for their services. I am sure if you added up the union minimum, which is ~$1000 IIRC, with the download pay the Glee actors come out with the much bigger check per episode - especially compared to the less popular Idols who get voted off early and have few downloads to get any money from anyway.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 10, 2012 9:31:28 GMT -5
My bad about the "4 Minutes" airplay peak but surely Nicki Minaj is just as much as a chart force as Timberlake/Timbaland was in 2008? I truly believe it's down to the song itself, which many (not just myself) seem to think isn't as strong as "4 Minutes" let alone her previous work. I don't know about you but the GMAYL video looks like it cost a pretty penny and I saw quite a few ads for the song/album pre-order at the time of the Superbowl so that's why I brought up the money thing. Either way, this is all going in circles... my point was that considering the huge Superbowl campaign, this has been an underwhelming performance for the single. And considering there's already little interest for single #2 (we still have the video to come, mind) isn't a great sign for the album past week #1. But we'll just have to wait and see :) Nicki Minaj has been on at least a 100 tracks in the past 2 years, no one cares anymore. Justin Timberlake had a lot more hype. Either way the song just isn't good and the real truth is no one cares about Madonna anymore as evidenced by the chart performance of her last two singles despite having a super bowl appearance and everything going for her. The bottom line is nick could be on 800 tracks and if the track was good it would still perform well. Trying to say no one cares when she just had another song go top 5 that was her being featured....says... Plus Madonna has done the female rapper being featured on her track thing before with Missy Elliot and American Life. She uses female artists to bolster her crappy material.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 10, 2012 9:37:57 GMT -5
No one cares anymore? I guess that goes for other "divas" of a certain age, too? Uh, yeah... sure. If "no one" cared, there wouldn't be the hype and buzz about how good the album actually is (check out the initial batch of reviews). Fact of the matter is, these ladies aren't going to see the success they once did- no matter what they release. But that hardly means no one cares- but we know that's just a phrase tossed around to mean they don't have the success they once did. :) Plus, only a few other acts enjoy the kind of global chart success that Madonna sees with her album releases. I'm sure we'll have a nice count of No. 1 rankings for her album upon its release.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 10, 2012 9:39:48 GMT -5
No one cares anymore? I guess that goes for other "divas" of a certain age, too? Uh, yeah... sure. If "no one" cared, there wouldn't be the hype and buzz about how good the album actually is (check out the initial batch of reviews). Fact of the matter is, these ladies aren't going to see the success they once did- no matter what they release. But that hardly means no one cares- but we know that's just a phrase tossed around to mean they don't have the success they once did. :) Just like the overuse of the words "flop," "stan," etc. If the song was good she'd be seeing far more success bottom line. People always try to blame age when really it's about the material. When an established artist like Madonna hits big they usually hit really big. When they fail they get an initial boost and people quickly move on.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 10, 2012 9:41:29 GMT -5
No argument that the song didn't connect- that doesn't mean people "don't care" about her, though. And, take note of my addition to the above post about global chart success. ;)
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Post by jebsib on Mar 10, 2012 9:47:25 GMT -5
If no one cared, the song would not have reached the top 10. End of story. Regardless of promotion. I haven't seen Tom Petty, Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, Janet Jackson or Whitney Houston (pre-mortem) anywhere near the Hot 100's top 10 in the last decade. Madonna is different.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 10, 2012 9:50:48 GMT -5
No argument that the song didn't connect- that doesn't mean people "don't care" about her, though. And, take note of my addition to the above post about global chart success. ;) I knew it was coming. A person calls a Madonna song a flop because it flopped and we always get the boring obligatory parade of posts about how Madonna sells WW when we are clearly talking about US charts. I think WW sales is a played out argument at this point. Maybe the board admins can put that into the filter since no one is doubting Madonna will sell well WW or really cares about WW sales in this iTunes thread that's centered around the US iTunes sales. LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 9:57:43 GMT -5
If no one cared, the song would not have reached the top 10. End of story. Regardless of promotion. I haven't seen Tom Petty, Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, Janet Jackson or Whitney Houston (pre-mortem) anywhere near the Hot 100's top 10 in the last decade. Madonna is different. Paul McCartney hasn't even tried to hit the top 10 in a long time. Singles are a younger person's game, and he left that to others a long time ago. He has already had more than enough single success both with the Beatles and on his own. And besides, he still sells albums.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 10, 2012 10:13:09 GMT -5
No parade of posts, Euliss- just an observation. As jebsib noted, Madonna's still cracking the top 10 with new music from each studio album release- whether it's for a week or 10. The performance of "Hung Up" at U.S. radio showed that radio was not going to be giving her the attention it once did, no matter how much people like the track. We've been through the reasons why "4 Minutes" did as well as it did- had it just been Madonna on the track, it more than likely would not have done as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 10:25:04 GMT -5
Madonna is #91 and #95 on itunes; should be an indicator of how well the album will do as well
Meanwhile, in other news
The Trammps had been front page on itunes for a while to honor the death of the lead singer with no measurable sales impact to 'Disco Inferno'
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 10, 2012 11:14:50 GMT -5
So the album will debut in the 90s? Single performances don't really have all that much to do with how her albums fare in the first week. Thereafter, possibly another story. I love "Disco Inferno"- Saturday Night Fever is one of my movies. if there was an era that I would have liked to be going out and such, it would have been that one. Though I'd now be in my 50s, and we can't have that just yet.
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