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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 13:22:40 GMT -5
Madonna is #91 and #95 on itunes; should be an indicator of how well the album will do as well Meanwhile, in other news The Trammps had been front page on itunes for a while to honor the death of the lead singer with no measurable sales impact to 'Disco Inferno' RTW flopped and Bey still opened with over 300k and sold a Million, I don't think Madonna's going to open as high or sell as much in the long run, but she has a sizeable stan base and will probably do 200k at the very least....either way the era's not looking good. 8. Call me maybe----This is holding up well even after the viral video hype, hopefully pop radio jumps on it before it starts falling :)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 13:30:30 GMT -5
The first line of my post was sarcasm, the second line was an obviously futile attempt to change the topic. Other than a brief discussion about boybands, we have had pretty much the same topic for several pages.
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Post by icefire9 on Mar 10, 2012 13:44:33 GMT -5
After a day, kworb finally updated its very glitched listing... to reveal another glitch. Levels is #1, all songs by the same artist are grouped together, the songs at the low end of the chart are at .7 something.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 13:51:00 GMT -5
Well....itunes stills works --- Levels is #95
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Post by jink on Mar 10, 2012 14:45:00 GMT -5
No argument that the song didn't connect- that doesn't mean people "don't care" about her, though. And, take note of my addition to the above post about global chart success. ;) I knew it was coming. A person calls a Madonna song a flop because it flopped and we always get the boring obligatory parade of posts about how Madonna sells WW when we are clearly talking about US charts. I think WW sales is a played out argument at this point. Maybe the board admins can put that into the filter since no one is doubting Madonna will sell well WW or really cares about WW sales in this iTunes thread that's centered around the US iTunes sales. LOL! Yeah well, what exactly did you expect when you said that no one cares about Madonna anymore?
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Post by nick64 on Mar 10, 2012 15:38:25 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed that moves like jagger isnt on itunes anymore?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 10, 2012 16:17:36 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed that moves like jagger isnt on itunes anymore? That's odd... The video's still there, though.
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Post by Arabella21 on Mar 10, 2012 16:28:41 GMT -5
217. Moves Like Jagger (Studio Recording from the Voice Performance) [feat. Christina Aguilera] - Maroon 5
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 10, 2012 21:10:22 GMT -5
I think "no cares anymore" is a bit harsh. She currently has a top ten single that's on the rise. Of course people care about her solo material but there are thousands of songs featuring her around so it's not a big issue any more. That was also the case with Justin when he started running around singing on other people's songs (Snoop Dogg, The Lonely Island, Reba, Esmee Denters, Jamie Foxx....) I feel like there's no comparison. A song featuring Justin, especially on a Madonna track, is a pretty big deal. I think the type of pairing does matter. Yeah, Nicki has dozens of songs so when she's featured on someone else's hit, it's not that big a deal. But when you have one pop star on another pop star's hit, that grabs attention.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 10, 2012 21:16:33 GMT -5
If no one cared, the song would not have reached the top 10. End of story. Regardless of promotion. I haven't seen Tom Petty, Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, Janet Jackson or Whitney Houston (pre-mortem) anywhere near the Hot 100's top 10 in the last decade. Madonna is different. But you DO see them consistently make the Top 10 on the Billboard 200 chart.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 10, 2012 22:43:44 GMT -5
I just don't understand why people are comparing Madonna to artists who haven't been relevant in years.
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 10, 2012 22:57:00 GMT -5
Um...
so iTunes is fine and well, but what's going on with LivePopBars and Kworb?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 22:58:47 GMT -5
#mess
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 10, 2012 22:59:56 GMT -5
Wow...
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Post by josh on Mar 10, 2012 23:07:20 GMT -5
So it's all iTunes' fault, after all?
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Post by jebsib on Mar 11, 2012 5:05:52 GMT -5
Adonis, you yourself mentioned that 'no one cares about Madonna based on the performance of her last two SINGLES.' But her last single made the Billboard top 10 and iTunes top 10. Someone cares. I brought up the examples of Paul, Janet, Prince and Tom Petty as recent Superbowl performers who were unable to get anywhere near the Hot 100 SINGLES top 10 (despite their album successes).
Regardless of whether their recent efforts were commercial or youthful or not, if they had released a song that connected with a mass audience, it would have been a moderate sales hit, no? Madonna just achieved that.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 11, 2012 9:32:21 GMT -5
What's up with that Victorious Cast track rising back up? It peaked around 22 a week ago, dropped to the 60s/70s and now is 49.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 10:56:53 GMT -5
I bought it ---- sorry ;)
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Post by Rodze on Mar 11, 2012 12:11:01 GMT -5
So it's all iTunes' fault, after all? Maybe they've gotten rid of the pop bars. I hope it's just a glitch.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 11, 2012 15:47:57 GMT -5
It took them a while, if they in fact got rid of the pop bars. Not seeing the pop bars does make it more interesting, chart-wise- no way of really knowing , then, how tracks are selling in relation to each other.
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 11, 2012 16:42:14 GMT -5
It took them a while, if they in fact got rid of the pop bars. Not seeing the pop bars does make it more interesting, chart-wise- no way of really knowing , then, how tracks are selling in relation to each other. I think you're confusing the word "interesting" with "annoying."
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 11, 2012 16:53:28 GMT -5
^ We've gotten too spoiled (with airplay and sales data). I remember the days of waiting to see the new Billboard top 10 each Thursday on CNN's Showbiz Today. Or, seeing it printed in Sunday newspapers or something. Or- gasp- picking up Billboard magazine and seeing for the first time that week, positions beyond the top 10.
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 11, 2012 17:44:33 GMT -5
^ We've gotten too spoiled (with airplay and sales data). I remember the days of waiting to see the new Billboard top 10 each Thursday on CNN's Showbiz Today. Or, seeing it printed in Sunday newspapers or something. Or- gasp- picking up Billboard magazine and seeing for the first time that week, positions beyond the top 10. Why should we have to go back to that time, though? It used to be that way because it was too difficult to distribute data like airplay and sales. With the Internet, it's so, so easy to collect and distribute that data. It's like cavemen with the discovery of fire. They were never able to boil water before, but now they are. Boiled water is extremely useful, so why go back to not boiling it with fire? I know it's a weird analogy, but it gets my point across.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 11, 2012 17:48:20 GMT -5
I see his point though- we survived before, so, if need be, we'll keep going in the face of this tragic change.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 12, 2012 8:59:37 GMT -5
Yes- "tragic," indeed. :)
Advanced technology has made it so much easier to get info here and now- and while I enjoy that benefit, part of me kinda misses the old days described above. On a related note, I'm also one of those who just has a cell phone to talk and text- no desire to have any fancy phones or the fancy phone technology. :)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2012 9:03:24 GMT -5
The pop bars just updated after ~37 hours. The order is right, but the bars are still outta whack.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2012 9:22:28 GMT -5
Kworb's site says:
"Popularity could not be parsed. Numbers are fake."
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 12, 2012 9:40:33 GMT -5
Kworb's site says: "Popularity could not be parsed. Numbers are fake." Poor Kworb :(
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2012 13:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2012 13:56:11 GMT -5
Wow FUN is killing it right now :)
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