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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 16, 2011 9:19:24 GMT -5
Yes, the record label may have made mistakes in the "remix" and pricing timing, but let's not act like it's a big fail if this singles does not hit No. 1 on the Hot 100. Actually it is, mainly because of how desperate the label seems to be for that #1 that they're throwing out all these tricks and none of them are working. That is why this will be seen as a big fail and it will leave a stigma for people to drag her with. People would have called it desperate regardless, the minute she did the remix but discounting it as well made it worse and the fact that she still couldn't get the #1 made that even worse. And now it's being discounted for a 2nd week which makes it even worse. Can you imagine if she misses it another week? even worseAnd I don't think it being 5th single even matters at all considering Kathy is more of a singles artist anyway. She is used primarily for hits by the public, they probably don't care if she has 10 singles out, they could all very well be #1 it seems. How do you get #1 in sales and airplay and still fail to hit #1 on the HOT 100. That's called a record company screw up particularly in this case. It's Capitol! Sony or Jive would've made sure LFN hit #1 when it broke pop airplay records and was a #1 selling single. |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 16, 2011 9:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 9:24:18 GMT -5
Regardless of any discounting, let's look at the realities of this: a fifth single reaches No. 1 on Hot 100 Airplay, sees pretty decent singles sales, and spends multiple weeks at No. 2 on the Hot 100. How many other fifth singles in recent times have achieved what "Last Friday Night" has, pre-single discounts or not? Come on, I'm waiting...  Yes, the record label may have made mistakes in the "remix" and pricing timing, but let's not act like it's a big fail if this singles does not hit No. 1 on the Hot 100. Records, schmecords. lots of 5th singles have reached the top 10. This one fared well on its own merits. The gimmick may still get this to number one but if it doesn't, I wouldn't be too shocked. This song has been available on itunes for a year. The recent songs to employ the remix gimmick were not quite as old. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 16, 2011 9:37:00 GMT -5
^In the history of the Hot 100, a number of fifth singles have hit the top 10- but not too many in recent times, let alone No. 2. Like said, this did extremely well on its own pre-tactic chart merits.
And, again, if the label had been smarter and gotten a red-hot of-the-moment act onto the "remix" rather than Missy Elliott, it more than likely would have resulted in bigger sales for said "remix." But, it missed the boat on that one. The effect may not have been as big as that for tracks like "S&M" and "Till the World Ends," but probably enough to leave a comfortable gap in Hot 100 points between itself and "Party Rock Anthem."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 9:40:26 GMT -5
As far as albums with 5 top ten hits and so forth. I do have a thread on that with a comprehensive list around somewhere.
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Post by youngstunna07 on Aug 16, 2011 10:07:54 GMT -5
5. Lil Wayne "She Will"!!! :o :o :o This might go #1 soon!!!
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Post by wavey. on Aug 16, 2011 10:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by Lockheart on Aug 16, 2011 10:14:59 GMT -5
Actually it is, mainly because of how desperate the label seems to be for that #1 that they're throwing out all these tricks and none of them are working. That is why this will be seen as a big fail and it will leave a stigma for people to drag her with. People would have called it desperate regardless, the minute she did the remix but discounting it as well made it worse and the fact that she still couldn't get the #1 made that even worse. And now it's being discounted for a 2nd week which makes it even worse. Can you imagine if she misses it another week? even worseAnd I don't think it being 5th single even matters at all considering Kathy is more of a singles artist anyway. She is used primarily for hits by the public, they probably don't care if she has 10 singles out, they could all very well be #1 it seems. How do you get #1 in sales and airplay and still fail to hit #1 on the HOT 100. That's called a record company screw up particularly in this case. It's Capitol! Sony or Jive would've made sure LFN hit #1 when it broke pop airplay records and was a #1 selling single. I don't think it's the label's screw up. It's just not resonating with the audience. Capitol has done everything they could. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 16, 2011 10:22:01 GMT -5
^What's not, the track? Of course it it- it wouldn't be where it is if it was not resonating with the audience. The "remix," another story.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Aug 16, 2011 10:22:02 GMT -5
It has Sold 2Million Already. Which is unheard of for a 5th Single form a Year old Album.
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Post by Arabella21 on Aug 16, 2011 10:26:44 GMT -5
"She Will" is at 4 now.
886. Price Tag - Price Tag
1015. If I Die Young - The Band Perry Tribute
The originals are both on iTunes.
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Post by popstop on Aug 16, 2011 10:30:13 GMT -5
It has Sold 2Million Already. Which is unheard of for a 5th Single form a Year old Album. I'm impressed by what Katy's done. But to be fair, it's not like that album has sold gangbusters. |
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Post by colson on Aug 16, 2011 10:31:13 GMT -5
It has Sold 2Million Already. Which is unheard of for a 5th Single form a Year old Album. Yeah, I don't even think Fergie's 5th single 'Clumsy' accomplished that. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 16, 2011 10:32:48 GMT -5
Few albums do sell like gangbusters these days- so, that does not diminish the sales feats of Perry's singles.
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Post by Lockheart on Aug 16, 2011 10:35:56 GMT -5
^What's not, the track? Of course it it- it wouldn't be where it is if it was not resonating with the audience. The "remix," another story. I'm talking about the remix. Reception has been negative overall. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 16, 2011 10:37:09 GMT -5
^That would be understandable. It just has the token rap parts tacked on, fro man act who is not all that commercially viable at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 10:37:10 GMT -5
How do you get #1 in sales and airplay and still fail to hit #1 on the HOT 100. That's called a record company screw up particularly in this case. It's Capitol! Sony or Jive would've made sure LFN hit #1 when it broke pop airplay records and was a #1 selling single. I don't think it's the label's screw up. It's just not resonating with the audience. Capitol has done everything they could. True. Sad that she had to end her era on such a sour note, I was thinking "Peacock" cold be released but now I'm not so sure as it will probably just f*ck her over even more. She's falling back into "Thinking Of You" mode again! |
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Aug 16, 2011 10:38:04 GMT -5
It has Sold 2Million Already. Which is unheard of for a 5th Single form a Year old Album. I'm impressed by what Katy's done. But to be fair, it's not like that album has sold gangbusters. The Total for the album is 1,683,818 which is Excellent in the current Sales Climate. I'm sure by the End of the Year the Album will be 2X Platinum. In total All singles from the Album have sold over 20 million copies. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 16, 2011 10:39:20 GMT -5
LOL @ ending the era on a "sour note"- just because LFN may not advance one position on the Hot 100. But, that's what happens when one enjoys such massive singles success, I suppose- some expect nothing but the absolute top of the mountain. I mean, there's no question her label is into the charts and all that, and played the game (though not as well as it could have, for reasons discussed) but, still, this is the furthest thing from "sour."
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Aug 16, 2011 10:40:09 GMT -5
I don't think it's the label's screw up. It's just not resonating with the audience. Capitol has done everything they could. True. Sad that she had to end her era on such a sour note, I was thinking "Peacock" cold be released but now I'm not so sure as it will probably just f*ck her over even more. She's falling back into "Thinking Of You" mode again! Talk About Over Reacting. |
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Post by Honeymoon on Aug 16, 2011 10:47:14 GMT -5
Erm I think RÉV0LUTI0N was being sarcastic
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Post by Arabella21 on Aug 16, 2011 11:10:59 GMT -5
3. She Will (feat. Drake) - Lil Wayne
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 16, 2011 11:12:42 GMT -5
^That would be understandable. It just has the token rap parts tacked on, fro man act who is not all that commercially viable at the moment. I read this six times before I figured out that "fro man" was "from an." |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 11:15:22 GMT -5
Well, "For man", (Afroman) isn't commercially viable anymore either He's too busy getting high |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 16, 2011 11:16:34 GMT -5
^That would be understandable. It just has the token rap parts tacked on, fro man act who is not all that commercially viable at the moment. I read this six times before I figured out that "fro man" was "from an."  I just eventually gave up on it. I was think "for main" or "for man" or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 12:18:25 GMT -5
LOL @ ending the era on a "sour note" Why are you laughing? I can't stand people who make fun whenever someone underperforms on the charts. Success isn't all that matters and I'm sure Katy still has a fair share of supporters regardless of her position. Everyone has a disappointment here and there in their career sometime, it's nothing new. For Bey it's "Ego/Work It Out" For Rih it's "We Ride/Rockstar/CKB" And for Katy it's "Thinking Of You/LFN" Leave her alone. |
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Post by Arabella21 on Aug 16, 2011 12:18:47 GMT -5
2. She Will (feat. Drake) - Lil Wayne
5. Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - Katy Perry
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Post by wavey. on Aug 16, 2011 12:19:13 GMT -5
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Post by badrobot on Aug 16, 2011 12:32:12 GMT -5
LOL @ ending the era on a "sour note" Why are you laughing? I can't stand people who make fun whenever someone underperforms on the charts. Success isn't all that matters and I'm sure Katy still has a fair share of supporters regardless of her position. Everyone has a disappointment here and there in their career sometime, it's nothing new. For Bey it's "Ego/Work It Out" For Rih it's "We Ride/Rockstar/CKB" And for Katy it's "Thinking Of You/LFN" Leave her alone. He was LOLing because saying a huge #2 hit is a "sour note" is ridiculous. Not laughing AT Katy. It's like saying it's a sour note for someone "only" having $999,000,000 dollars instead of a billion. The success is already huge. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 16, 2011 13:44:46 GMT -5
That 69 cent promo Itunes is doing is really working. That gets people to the page and once they are there they purchase.
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