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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 14:09:37 GMT -5
good site!
I also don't think this is gonna flop. Britney's songs that have always zoomed up the chart have always had longevity problems. If this is makes a slow climb, this song could be there a long time and become an overall huge hit in the long run, even if doesn't hit #1.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 15:15:03 GMT -5
its a shame her singles arent doing as well as they did in the Circus era :/ ..what? The Femme Fatale era is thus far proving to be one of her most successful eras from a singles standpoint. It's already more than trumped Circus.I was talking about sales, not peak positions, so yeah Circus era did a lot better lets compare Circus: Womanizer 3 Xplatinum Circus 2 X Platinum If U Seek Amy Platinum Femme Fatale: HIAM Platinum TTWE 2 X Platinum I Wanna Go Platinum so yeah Circus did better, i think the only way to measure a singles performance is through sales, radio plays do not matter.
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Post by SuRvIvOr on Oct 26, 2011 15:16:20 GMT -5
^OMG, I love you right now, thank you so much for posting that! :-*v
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 15:24:00 GMT -5
Seems legit.
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Post by SuRvIvOr on Oct 26, 2011 15:36:09 GMT -5
To me too. Rihanna this week 235k she gained something and if she will be stable during the week with 36k ( last 24h sales) *7 total is: 250k.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 15:37:01 GMT -5
^ Singles not doing as well as the Circus era? Both lead singles hit No. 1 (though HIAM had less longevity than "Womanizer"), the second singles both peaked at No. 3 and the third single from this album peaked at No. 7, compared to the No. 19 peak of IUSA. And, "Criminal" will outpeak "Radar." maybe on the pop chart they haven't been quite as successful (i.e. the last album notched two No. 1s at the format), but they've still done well- and "Criminal' has outdone "Radar" there. As ive already said, i wasnt talking about peak positions, i was talking about sales.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Oct 26, 2011 15:57:56 GMT -5
^ Singles not doing as well as the Circus era? Both lead singles hit No. 1 (though HIAM had less longevity than "Womanizer"), the second singles both peaked at No. 3 and the third single from this album peaked at No. 7, compared to the No. 19 peak of IUSA. And, "Criminal" will outpeak "Radar." maybe on the pop chart they haven't been quite as successful (i.e. the last album notched two No. 1s at the format), but they've still done well- and "Criminal' has outdone "Radar" there. As ive already said, i wasnt talking about peak positions, i was talking about sales. You said sales after the post. Be more clear with your next post. Thanks.
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on Oct 26, 2011 16:00:58 GMT -5
polish and hungarian charts look legit
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Post by Grün on Oct 26, 2011 16:08:17 GMT -5
I think she'll be okay if this doesn't get number one lol. Just enjoy the song, Britney has enough hits and it might not be dead yet.
The one thing that does bother me about this board is some of you will scream I love the song, hot, smash and snatching wigs etc. But once the single is underpreforming you claim you hate the song.
Like songs because they are not good, not because of their chart position.
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Post by Mack on Oct 26, 2011 17:34:21 GMT -5
..what? The Femme Fatale era is thus far proving to be one of her most successful eras from a singles standpoint. It's already more than trumped Circus.I was talking about sales, not peak positions, so yeah Circus era did a lot better lets compare
Circus: Womanizer 3 Xplatinum Circus 2 X Platinum If U Seek Amy Platinum
Femme Fatale: HIAM Platinum TTWE 2 X Platinum I Wanna Go Platinum
so yeah Circus did better, i think the only way to measure a singles performance is through sales, radio plays do not matter.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 17:34:27 GMT -5
Mama im in love with a flopinal and this type of flop isnt flopinal its flopical, mama please dont flop i will be alright all flop aside i just cant deny love the flop.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 17:36:44 GMT -5
I was talking about sales, not peak positions, so yeah Circus era did a lot better lets compare
Circus: Womanizer 3 Xplatinum Circus 2 X Platinum If U Seek Amy Platinum
Femme Fatale: HIAM Platinum TTWE 2 X Platinum I Wanna Go Platinum
so yeah Circus did better, i think the only way to measure a singles performance is through sales, radio plays do not matter.Why did you scrible it out and then put that face as though what i had said wasnt relevant?
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Oct 26, 2011 17:43:36 GMT -5
Why did you scrible it out and then put that face as though what i had said wasnt relevant? Stab in the dark guess - maybe because you said that sales was the only way to judge the Success of a single on a radio forum?
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on Oct 26, 2011 17:45:35 GMT -5
October 4th, 2011 - October 26th, 2011
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 17:49:19 GMT -5
Wow, loving this insightful and relevant discussion. Keep it up! i think the only way to measure a singles performance is through sales, radio plays do not matter. LMAOOOooOoOOo. Cute.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 18:04:57 GMT -5
Why did you scrible it out and then put that face as though what i had said wasnt relevant? Stab in the dark guess - maybe because you said that sales was the only way to judge the Success of a single on a radio forum? i stand by what i have said
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 18:08:45 GMT -5
So it doesn't matter whether or not anyone actually listens to the single, whether or not is has longevity, where it peaks on the charts, how big of a cultural impact it makes, or how long it's remembered so long as it sells big?
Wow, I've been living a lie.
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Post by Mack on Oct 26, 2011 18:59:39 GMT -5
Mama im in love with a flopinal and this type of flop isnt flopinal its flopical, mama please dont flop i will be alright all flop aside i just cant deny love the flop. ...not. Why did you scrible it out and then put that face as though what i had said wasnt relevant? Because it isn't?
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 19:18:04 GMT -5
So it doesn't matter whether or not anyone actually listens to the single, whether or not is has longevity, where it peaks on the charts, how big of a cultural impact it makes, or how long it's remembered so long as it sells big? Wow, I've been living a lie. basically yeah, because to me, the only way to tell if a song is LIKED is by its SALES..... why are you saying chart peaks? and longevity? basically my whole argument is based on the fact that i dont like how radio counts towards BBhot100
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 26, 2011 19:21:24 GMT -5
So it doesn't matter whether or not anyone actually listens to the single, whether or not is has longevity, where it peaks on the charts, how big of a cultural impact it makes, or how long it's remembered so long as it sells big? Wow, I've been living a lie. basically yeah, because to me, the only way to tell if a song is LIKED is by its SALES..... why are you saying chart peaks? and longevity? basically my whole argument is based on the fact that i dont like how radio counts towards BBhot100 But the fact that you don't like Billboards formula is completely irrelevant to everything and everyone but you. It's just the way it is, and the way it is is radio matters. The end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 19:22:46 GMT -5
basically yeah, because to me, the only way to tell if a song is LIKED is by its SALES..... This is ignorant. Not that you are, but your view is. You just said the only thing you cared for was sales. Billboard factors in radio as well, and longevity on that chart would require radio support. The only other longevity would be in terms of radio or lasting impression, neither of which you said mattered because, and I quote: the only way to tell if a song is LIKED is by its SALES..... Or, let me guess: you only care about the sales half of the Billboard chart or some shit?
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 26, 2011 19:39:58 GMT -5
I don't think his feelings are that shockingly ignorant or horrific or deserve people laughing or mocking him. A lot of countries use just sales charts and I know a lot of people (foreign and in America) would prefer a chart geared more toward sales. Billboard itself has changed its methodology over and over again so it isn't like a fixed formula that has never changed over the history of US music. It will change in the future as well. We have a topic for discussing Billboard methodology revisions or possible changes in the Your Opinion Please topic with many different opinions and ALL welcome. Personally, I think the true measure of a song's success or how well it is liked is completely immeasurable so any methodology will be, ultimately, flawed. I like that we get multiple US charts actually-just sales, just airplay, combined with streaming, etc. I enjoy looking at all of them together as opposed to JUST the hot 100 or JUST sales or whatever else.
On another note, I will cry if this flops **shakes fist**
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Post by landtedo81 on Oct 26, 2011 19:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 19:53:05 GMT -5
I don't think his feelings are that shockingly ignorant or horrific or deserve people laughing or mocking him. A lot of countries use just sales charts and I know a lot of people (foreign and in America) would prefer a chart geared more toward sales. I wasn't going to that extreme, but I don't agree with this. It's ignorant to imply that sales are the one almighty factor in any context no matter your circumstance. If it's their opinion, fine, but it's not a very well based one and I guess I'm blunt enough to let them know. This I do agree with, though. There's a lot of different factors to a song's success and I don't think any chart is really going to pinpoint that. That said, we have to work with what we're given.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 20:05:09 GMT -5
Every other country in the world uses JUST SALES why is my view so shocking? i really dont understand why someone would factor in radio plays because the radio can play it all they want, but if no one likes it then they wont buy it. i think it can create a false sense on the chart that a song is liked, when in fact it is not liked, it is just that the radio keep playing it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 20:11:47 GMT -5
...no one said your view was shocking. I'm not even entirely sure where that came about.
Radio doesn't exclusively function on their own brains, however. Typically, there's a correlation between such things as radio airplay, public interest, and sales (this isn't factoring in "payola" as it's existence is debatable).
To put it another way: if no one liked it, radio wouldn't play it because then radio wouldn't be getting the audience needed to continue operation. Does that make sense?
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Post by ColdAsFire_Baby on Oct 26, 2011 20:34:35 GMT -5
Moves to #66 on the Hot 100.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 20:47:46 GMT -5
...no one said your view was shocking. I'm not even entirely sure where that came about. Radio doesn't exclusively function on their own brains, however. Typically, there's a correlation between such things as radio airplay, public interest, and sales (this isn't factoring in "payola" as it's existence is debatable). To put it another way: if no one liked it, radio wouldn't play it because then radio wouldn't be getting the audience needed to continue operation. Does that make sense? yes that does make sense, BUT what about when people cant chart high even if they have good sales, just because radio wont play their song, like if their is a stigma against that artist? IE if they do teen music, i know radio tends not to like that, even though it has good sales, radio stops it getting high on the BBHot100 is that fair? Q: is payola where a company pays radio to play their artists song? or have i got that wrong?
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Post by pnobelysk on Oct 26, 2011 20:53:02 GMT -5
im getting concerned this wont sell gold.
i think next era they way britney could really get some good attention is if she focuses on her breakdown. i know she doesnt like thinking about it but if they did something similar to rihanna's we found love video, which spotlighted the chris brown relationship, brit could get HUGE media love, if handled properly. i think that could be the first step in getting her another platnium album
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2011 20:57:03 GMT -5
im getting concerned this wont sell gold. i think next era they way britney could really get some good attention is if she focuses on her breakdown. i know she doesnt like thinking about it but if they did something similar to rihanna's we found love video, which spotlighted the chris brown relationship, brit could get HUGE media love, if handled properly. i think that could be the first step in getting her another platnium album Arent you basically describing the Hold It Against Me video?
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