Avril Lavigne Discussion- Divorcing Nickelback

[reidster]

Hello Kitty. :S I'm in shock.

I think Falling Fast is my favourite. Classic Avril.

[Hierophant]

HTNGU, Bitchin Summer, Let Me Go, GYWYL, Bad Girl, Hello Kitty, Hello Heartache and Falling Fast made the album for me

I love that this is a step foward, she has grown in this album as an artist, trying new sounds, lyrics, vocals... everything. I cant with SOS and YASNY, but the the rest of the album is great. I need to listen it a few more times, but i rly like it. The influences of Chad (nickelback), Manson, David Hodges (Evanescence-Christina Perry) and Sarah Mclachlan (in Falling Fast) did great. Also I can see a lot of Ke$ha in Hello Kitty verses, but I also can see a lot of Avril in Kesha, so this is confusing.

[surprise]

Give You What You Like is absolute BLISS. It's one of the best things she's ever done.

It's the climax of the album imo.

[surprise]

Oct 25, 2013 15:23:26 GMT -5 Snowbeast said:

Bad Girl sounds like it was off a Pretty Reckless album.

It's like she's channeling Taylor Momsen. I love this sound for her.

[surprise]

Oct 25, 2013 23:02:08 GMT -5 Hierophant said:

and Sarah Mclachlan (in Falling Fast)

You hit it right on the mark! Her vocals are so Sarah. I heard it right away, especially when she does those high "oh" notes.

We all know Avril loves Sarah's Adia. Falling Fast is very reminiscent of that song.

[Gray.]

This is easily my favorite album of hers. As a whole it really, really works, and the only track I would have thrown out is "Bitchin' Summer." Even creepy-as-hell "Bad Girl" and dubstep "Hello Kitty" work for me. It has the best of old Avril with some good modernization.

Still confused why "Here's to Never Growing Up" was the first single though. Easily one of the least memorable tracks.

[Max_X5]

The artwork for this album just really confounds me. What was her label thinking? So far all the music I've heard has been good, but I don't think that cover isn't going to do her any favors... (I say this all from a marketing perspective)

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Max?

How can you be max when I am?

[Deleted]

This album is amazing, great job Avril! 100% improvement over Goodbye Lullaby. However I'm still baffled by the decision they made to release Here's To Never Growing Up and Rock N Roll, the album is full of better choices.

[Hierophant]

I do enjoy HTNGU as 1st single, RnR otherwise... i like the song, but it wasnt a good single choice and the charts didnt lie. Looking to the whole album now, Bitchin Summer would make better. Give You What You Like is single worth too. Hello Kitty is a risk, but they need to try it in Jp-Korea at least.

[C.Ro]

I'm totally shocked with this album... I was expecting nothing but I love it... Easy her best since Under My Skin...

[foxxden]

Haven't given it a full listen yet but just for a handful of tracks on the stream this may be my favorite album released this year. I like it better than "Bangerz" and "Prism". Very eclectic in its offerings!

[Snowbeast]

Streaming now.

[Love Plastic Love]

I need to give this a chance. I didn't end up loving Goodbye Lullaby and I only like one of the three singles, but apparently the rest of the cd is much better?

[Snowbeast]

Oct 29, 2013 1:25:03 GMT -5 Love Plastic Love said:

I need to give this a chance. I didn't end up loving Goodbye Lullaby and I only like one of the three singles, but apparently the rest of the cd is much better?

This album is weird for me. Give You What You Like, Bad Girl, Hello Heartache, Falling Fast and Hush Hush are all some of the strongest things she's done in her career, but it's contrasted with some of my least favorite things she's done like Let Me Go, You Aint Seen Nothing Yet and Sippin On Sunshine. I've never been so impressed by her material, but I've also never disliked songs on a release from her before. To be delivering some of the best songs in your catalog on your 5th album is a pretty good accomplishment though, in my mind at least.

Stream the album!

[tamed09]

I love this album! Still think 17 could have led off the album or even "B Summer" being that we were heading into summer.

[Snowbeast]

Oct 29, 2013 1:49:08 GMT -5 tamed09 said:

I love this album! Still think 17 could have led off the album or even "B Summer" being that we were heading into summer.

Bitchin' Summer does have a lot more hook than HTNGU, but HTNGU was playing it safe. It's not that Here's To Never Growing Up or Rock n Roll don't represent the album like I thought, because it's so all over the place that no particular song that represents it. I think it's a mistake not representing the adult side though. Her CHR ship has sailed and she has a couple REALLY good mature potential singles on this album. 17 has A LOT more AC crossover appeal then R&R.

1. Bitchin' Summer/ Here's To Never Growing Up
2. 17
3. Hello Heartache
4. Give You What You Like
5. Let Me Go (feat. Chad)

Is what I would do.

[tsr]

Reading the extremely positive reception to some of the new tracks has caused me to bust out "I'm With You" and now I'm officially excited for this era. Can't wait for next Tuesday!

[Snowbeast]

Avril Lavigne’s twice-married, pushing 30—and speaking for sloppy teens like the Lorax who grabbed the axe. We’re supposed to hope for more from a star releasing her fifth album, never mind one doing it at a time when even music’s biggest brats get folks clucking about high-toned topics like appropriation and blasphemy.

Avril, who turned 29 last month, can’t compete with Miley and Kanye when it comes to making a spectacle of pop spectacle. But the irresistibly zippy, perceptive and, on two (possibly three) occasions, deeply weird Avril Lavigne reminds us that maturity sometimes means doubling down on what’s expected of you—even when that involves rapping about the “motherf—ing cops” on a fleet little song called “Bitchin’ Summer.”

It takes a village to write a proper teen album, and here, Avril mainly relies on her new hubby, Nickleback frontman Chad Kroeger, and two other non-Swedes who’ve done time in bands, Martin Johnson and David Hodges. But when she shouts about living “like rock stars” in “Here’s to Never Growing Up,” the biggest and best of her first three singles from the album, it’s from the sloshed perspective of hellion high schoolers, not crusty groupie seekers.

In fact, hardly any of Kroeger’s oiliness seems to have seeped into Avril’s sound. Beyond, that is, their monster duet “Let Me Go,” which might be deeply weird because it is newlyweds singing what seems to be a breakup ballad, or might be completely unremarkable because it sounds like a Nickleback song. And although Hodges cofounded Evanescence, Avril’s actually done away with the doomy elements she borrowed from that band on her last disc, Goodbye Lullaby.

What we do hear sounds like tomboy Taylor Swift, or Paramore for the everygirl. (And on a distant shore, Sheryl Crow watches someone peel the labels off his bottle of Bud.) The songs come in three main categories. There’s straight-up trouble-teen pop rock, like the near-perfect “17,” in which “stealing beers out of the trailer park” leads to “flicking lighters just to fight the dark,” and the hyper acoustic thrum benefits from a spritz of the wistful. Out in left field you’ll find category Come Again?, containing two deeply weird songs: “Hello Kitty,” a dubstep track that seems to acknowledge its own tokenism by adopting a “J-Pop American Funtime Now!” sheen (and whose title may or may not enclose a double entendre that in any case I’d rather not entertain); and the kohl-black but super-bouncy “Bad Girl,” which features Marilyn Manson croaking and Cookie Monstering about his pervy “daddy” fantasies while Avril invites him to “do whatever” and more. The weirdest thing? The pair kick so hard that they jar the misgivings right out of your head. And then, of course, the hooks rush in.

Probably no one enjoys the thought of Avril Lavigne and Marilyn Manson having to come up with a safe word. (Sk8tr Uncle?) But the whole thing’s so over the top you can’t hate it. Or at least, if you do hate it, double check to make sure you’re not also railing against “slutty” Halloween costumes, because you might just be misdirecting some internalized rage.

Which brings us to the last category of tracks on the album—the sexual confusion songs. Avril’s commitment to the teen point of view finally yields this: “You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet,” a pleasure anthem as earnest as anything by T. Swift that nevertheless finds its protagonist rounding “third base and headed for a home run”; and “Give You What You Like,” a sensual-sounding ballad that hints at all the ways people trade sex and affection for attention (and cigarettes). Avril’s no longer bemoaning complications, she’s sticking her nose right in them—and very much revealing her grown-woman wisdom. B+

music-mix.ew.com/2013/10/29/avril-lavigne-2013-album-review/

Whether she likes it or not, Avril Lavigne is growing up. Her unwavering dedication to the bratty punk-pop cause for the best part of 15 years has been admirable, but now 29 and married to Nickelback frontman Chad Kroeger - who is ten years her senior - one might suspect her fifth, self-titled album would mark the start of a new and - dare we suggest - mature phase in Avril's career.

But you only need glance at the tracklist to realize she's still hell-bent on clinging on to her youth. However, as lead single 'Here's To Never Growing Up' - an anthemic pop-rock chantalong that does exactly what it says on the tin - demonstrates, she's not in the least bit ashamed of it. Similarly, '17' finds her recalling an early romance, while on 'Rock N Roll' she yells: "Let's get wasted!" with the same rebellious charm that feels nothing if reassuringly familiar.

While the bulk of it feels like a movie soundtrack from the Tara Reid era of teen comedy, there are a few moments where Avril veers into the modern. 'Give Me What You Like' is an unexpectedly moody and minimal number about a fractious relationship, while the juddering electro-pop beats of 'Hello Kitty' serve as an ode to her you-know-what as well as her sizeable Japanese fanbase. As a curveball, it works brilliantly; but as an attempt to make her sound current in today's EDM-pop dominated charts, it falls considerably short.

She sounds infinitely more comfortable on the Marilyn Manson-assisted 'Bad Girl', which recalls '70s punk surprisingly faithfully and offers an indication of where her sound could be go in the future. For the most part though, Avril seems content staying in the same lane, singing about the same things to pretty much the same tune. She may have self-titled the album because she didn't know what else to call it, but truth be told, nothing could sum it up better. Rating: 3/5

www.digitalspy.ca/music/review/a527313/avril-lavigne-avril-lavigne-album-review-heres-to-never-growing-up.html

[Hierophant]

This album has some gems... GYWYL is easily one of her best songs ever. The versatility of her vocals in this album is something that I rly admire too. Even as a fan I wasnt expecting this album to have such great songs. I wish she could have at least more 3 singles, but I doubt it.

1 - HTNGU
2 - Bitchin' Summer
3 - Let Me Go
4 - Give You what You Like
5 - Falling Fast or Hush Hush
6 - Hello Kitty or Bad Girl

[Gray.]

^I'm not sure what market(s) you're gunning for with those single choices. I love "Give You What You Like," "Falling Fast" & "Hush Hush," but none of them should be singles, especially not for radio. Nor should "Hello Kitty" ever leave Japan in a single capacity.

I think "17" is the only song left that has huge hit potential, especially right now in fall/winter and given its nostalgia theme.

Also, let's be real, there won't be more than one more single from this project, as much as they would love to call "Let Me Go" the first single.

[Ivy Leegue™]

I am looking forward to buying this now. I was kinda on the fence. I would like to hear more though, first, to be sure.

[Hierophant]

Oct 31, 2013 0:08:43 GMT -5 Gray. said:

^I'm not sure what market(s) you're gunning for with those single choices. I love "Give You What You Like," "Falling Fast" & "Hush Hush," but none of them should be singles, especially not for radio. Nor should "Hello Kitty" ever leave Japan in a single capacity.

I think "17" is the only song left that has huge hit potential, especially right now in fall/winter and given its nostalgia theme.

Also, let's be real, there won't be more than one more single from this project, as much as they would love to call "Let Me Go" the first single.

I think that HTNGU, Bitchin' Summer and GYWYL are good choices for radios em GP. I do like 17 too. The other choices like Let Me Go, Hush Hush and Falling Fast shows a more adult side from her and she needs to show it more often, even if they aren't big success, they have the capacity to change the image of the artist. With almost 30 years it's about time for her to release material that looks more mature than her first album. Bad Girl-Hello Kitty would be a different kind of sound for her and as last single it would work more as a test to see how the public react to something rly different. It's not everyday you see a popstar playing with Marilyn Manson!

[Snowbeast]

It's not enough :(


November 04, 2013 - VEVO certified!

November 05, 2013 - Good Morning America - New York, NY
November 05, 2013 - Album Release Party - New York, NY

November 06, 2013 - Up Close & Personal Event with Avril Lavigne by Fresh 102.7 - New York, NY

November 07, 2013 - The Katie Show - New York, NY

November 12, 2013 - Chelsea Lately - Los Angelas, CA


December 01, 2013 - MIX 107.9 FM’s MIXMAS - McCallen, TX

December 04, 2013 - Q102 "Jingle Ball" - Philadelphia, PA

December 05, 2013 - 98.5 KRZ "Let It Show" - Wilkes-Barre, PA

December 08, 2013 - Y98 "Mistletoe Show" - St. Charles, MO

December 09, 2013 - 103.5 KIIS FM "Jingle Ball" - Chicago, IL

December 10, 2013 - 100.7 Star "O Starry Night" Concert - Pittsburgh, PA

December 11, 2013 - Avril Lavigne presented by 106.1 BLI - Huntington, NY

December 13, 2013 - MIX 106.5’s Mistletoe Meltdown! - Baltimore, MD

December 14, 2013 - 96.5 TIC FM "All- Star Christmas" - Wallingford, CT

December 16, 2013 - STAR 94's JINGLE JAM - Duluth, GA

December 18, 2013 - MIX 95.9 Jingle Bell Ball - Charleston, SC

December 20, 2013 - Y100 "Jingle Ball" - Miami, FL - See more at: www.avrilbandaids.com/forums/showthread.php/1135520-All-upcoming-Events#sthash.8AR17uUp.dpuf

[Keelzit]

Just finished listening to the album. What the hell were they thinking by not releasing Give You What You Like as the 2nd or even 1st single? That song is her best ever! Hello Kitty could be a great club single. Loving Bad Girl's 80s demo production although it gets annoying after a few listens, the Nickelback cover was good too.

[reidster]

I'm glad people like it. I've shipped Avril hard for a long time, but this is my least favourite of hers. I hope it does well though.

[CriminallySmooth]

I've loved this girl since she started Let go, Classic. UMS, great artist development. B-sides, why I stan. Whatever that crappy Dr Luke album was, I over looked. GL, a few gems. THIS wtf? Give You What You Like is the only thing on this album thats enjoyable. What really makes me mad though is her voice has never sounded better and I loved that she took some production risks with some of the songs but the material is just so completely soul-less. Also I kinda like 17 but I've heard this from Avril a billion times before.

[Envoirment]

Just bought the album! Going to have it on repeat this week.

[Snowbeast]

Nov 3, 2013 19:26:46 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Just bought the album! Going to have it on repeat this week.

Thank you. PM me your address and I'll mail you a thank you gift on behalf of Avril.

[Au$tin]

Oh, thank God. Even though I liked the three singles, I was very worried I wouldn't like this album, but it's actually really good. "Give You What You Like" is amazing. It should've been the first single.