Cerbius
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Post by Cerbius on Nov 29, 2011 16:33:45 GMT -5
Wow, that's like a 400%+ gain for Gaga. I guess a lot of people bought The Collection in addition to Black Friday sales and her Thanksgiving special.
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Post by SWEET DREAMS on Nov 29, 2011 16:48:43 GMT -5
Rihanna did her usual. See you in November 2012!
YAY at MJB getting more then predicted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 16:52:09 GMT -5
Hope Buble is #1 on SS
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Post by Arabella21 on Nov 29, 2011 17:03:29 GMT -5
15 9 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 89,522 +181% CLEAR AS DAY
:o I don't remember any of the predictions having him in the Top 10?
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 29, 2011 17:07:08 GMT -5
I am hoping this is a good sign Gaga will sell decently through the holidays to get her easily above 2 by the end of the year. I would love for her to sell 2.2 in about 6-7 months. But I think it is a temporary hike and it will drop down to 15K next week ha ha.
I am DEAD at Nickelback possibly being #1 over Buble and Rihanna.
Good jumps all around though. It is fun to see everyone selling :)
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Post by NeRD on Nov 29, 2011 17:21:57 GMT -5
Is Bey out of the Top 50? Or am I overlooking her?
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Post by jgizzle89 on Nov 29, 2011 17:24:14 GMT -5
23 14 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIV REPUBLIC 62,790 +147% THA CARTER IV
very surprised at this one.
and LMFAO just added about 1/4 of their total sales to their new total haha
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Post by Black Jesus on Nov 29, 2011 17:34:18 GMT -5
Wow, that's like a 400%+ gain for Gaga. I guess a lot of people bought The Collection in addition to Black Friday sales and her Thanksgiving special. I don't think "The Collection" sales are counting towards BTW's totals? Anyone know?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 29, 2011 17:38:21 GMT -5
Drake's percentage loss will be lower if the SS numbers are close to HITS 9as HITS had his album at a higher amount last week).
I'm surprised that some albums not in their sophomore week lost sales (i.e. SuBo's latest). Next week, most titles will see sharp declines, in the usual post-Thanksgiving-week drop.
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Post by hitseeker. on Nov 29, 2011 17:48:25 GMT -5
I hope Rihanna can get to 200k on Soundscan :)
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Post by BadRomance on Nov 29, 2011 18:39:12 GMT -5
I hope Rihanna can get to 200k on Soundscan :) This! :(
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Post by Rodze on Nov 29, 2011 18:41:45 GMT -5
It'd be interesting if Adele still ended up in the top 5.
She's close to Bieber and MJB might have sold enough for $1.99 not to count (slim possibility, though).
Overall, it seems like a very weak Black Friday week for music.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 18:41:53 GMT -5
Is Bey out of the Top 50? Or am I overlooking her? Bey's out of the top 50 :'( Hopefully she still saw a gain though....Damn you BeyJay jr for stopping mama knowles from do heavy X-Mas promo.... Nice for Buble, although I hope he get's number 1! Typical rihanna opening, similar to Katy's opening last August. MJB is higher than predicted but I wonder if that includes the 1.99 amazon deal(which won't count).... Nice gains for TBP, GaGa, Scotty, ect
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 29, 2011 18:47:11 GMT -5
15 9 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 89,522 +181% CLEAR AS DAY :o I don't remember any of the predictions having him in the Top 10? we might have our first idol contestant since cook to sell a million. we ll see
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 29, 2011 18:47:39 GMT -5
I cannot believe she just missed #1 by 30k... *3k
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Post by d.t.m on Nov 29, 2011 19:26:25 GMT -5
Hope Rihanna crosses 200k. So much for those Beyonce holiday sales. Has she crossed 900k yet?
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Post by Cerbius on Nov 29, 2011 19:53:16 GMT -5
Wow, that's like a 400%+ gain for Gaga. I guess a lot of people bought The Collection in addition to Black Friday sales and her Thanksgiving special. I don't think "The Collection" sales are counting towards BTW's totals? Anyone know? I assumed so since the package includes the original album. I'd love a confirmation though.
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Nov 29, 2011 21:37:49 GMT -5
Overall abysmal black Friday sales, hopefully things will pick up as we get closer to Christmas
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 21:46:49 GMT -5
Only "abysmal" because there was no runaway hit. I am reading that music sales were up for the weekend
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 21:50:03 GMT -5
Is Bey out of the Top 50? Or am I overlooking her? Bey's out of the top 50 :'( Hopefully she still saw a gain though....Damn you BeyJay jr for stopping mama knowles from do heavy X-Mas promo.... Nice for Buble, although I hope he get's number 1! Typical rihanna opening, similar to Katy's opening last August. MJB is higher than predicted but I wonder if that includes the 1.99 amazon deal(which won't count).... Nice gains for TBP, GaGa, Scotty, ect Smh, I knew this was going to happen. Majority of albums were discounted for Black Friday but a lot of stores still had "4" at the standard price, not to mention it free-fell down iTunes because there were similar discounts on a lot of albums and it was excluded out of that too. They def missed out on a lot of sales last week but we should be back next week, with the Couric interview and stuff.
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Post by kml567 on Nov 29, 2011 22:08:38 GMT -5
Was Amazon selling albums for 99 cents again?
It's so bizarre to see LMFAO, The Band Perry, Scotty McCreery, Lady Gaga and so many others having +250% sales increases. I know it's Black Friday, but those are out of whack (usually spikes are +50%, not +250%). Any guess whether those huge sales spikes came from deep online discounts, or were they sold regular price at brick-and-mortar stores?
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Post by idolman88 on Nov 29, 2011 22:16:19 GMT -5
Was Amazon selling albums for 99 cents again? It's so bizarre to see LMFAO, The Band Perry, Scotty McCreery, Lady Gaga and so many others having +250% sales increases. I know it's Black Friday, but those are out of whack (usually spikes are +50%, not +250%). Any guess whether those huge sales spikes came from deep online discounts, or were they sold regular price at brick-and-mortar stores? These albums were discounted at brick and morter stores. I saw Scotty's for sale at 6.99 at Target and FYE, just as one example. Target had a huge sale on many albums for $5.99-$6.99.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 22:17:55 GMT -5
^Like I said in my post right above, a lot of albums were heavily discounted last week in stores (brick and mortar) and I'm pretty sure there were deep online discounts as well so that's likely the cause. I think Gaga's boost came mainly from her Thanksgiving special though, that seemed to go over extremely well.
It would be interesting if albums sold under $3.49 were included in HDD's update and to what degree because Billboard doesn't include those anymore so if that's the case, there could be a lot of shakeups in numbers.
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Post by Black Jesus on Nov 29, 2011 22:21:19 GMT -5
I don't think "The Collection" sales are counting towards BTW's totals? Anyone know? I assumed so since the package includes the original album. I'd love a confirmation though. It also included the remix album though, which counted as a separate album. Her label has to be so difficult with these album packages!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 29, 2011 23:55:12 GMT -5
No doubt sales were up this week compared to last week- but, how will sales stack up compared to the comparable week last year?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 0:09:08 GMT -5
Black Friday, Cyber Monday Great for Retailers; Record-Store Day Items Drive Music Sales
November 29, 2011 By Ed Christman, New York
While music merchants say that they too, like retail in general, experienced a strong sales for the Black Friday weekend, some of them acknowledge that music wasn't leading the charge. "We had a great weekend," says one chain executive. "Video games and systems blew out of the store, and devices were doing well and internet sales were great. But music didn't do so hot. We were down single digits on a comparable-store-basis." That would have been okay in the recent years, the exec noted, because no matter what they did, music sales were down. But that's not the case this year, with album sales up 2.7% year-to-date. Can This Holiday Season Keep the Record Biz in the Black for 2011? But indie merchants who had exclusives that the labels issued as part of Record Store Day's "Back To Black Friday," say that music sales were great over the weekend. Newbury Comics CEO Mike Dreese says music sales were up 12%-14% on Friday and Saturday, thanks to record-store day vinyl. For its second year, major and independent labels outdid themselves with unique exclusives--mainly vinyl--at premium pricing aimed at collectors for Record Store Day indie merchants. The offering included boxed sets of 7" singles from the Beatles, Bob Dylan, the Doors, Janis Joplin and Pink Floyd; and album sets from Joplin, Kings of Leon, the Grateful Dead and John Lennon. Getting back to overall sales, for the full weekend, Dreese says Sunday was a little soft, but overall said the chain's 30 stores enjoyed a great weekend with profit margins up 25% over last year. While the big boxes are usually tight-lipped about their music sales, one distribution executive out checking stores over the weekend said sales were strong. "I wasn't out at midnight, but I checked out the big boxes at noon and sales were still crazy," that executive said. "And Best Buy was the craziest, and you could see that music was a part of the story." But before Black Friday took off, things were looking bad in the morning. For example, by 11 a.m., one chain reports its sales were down 40% compared to last year. "But sales caught up and were stronger than last year by the end of the day," he says. "With all the people going to midnight sales, I guess they had to sleep in." Moving over to the internet, while label executives say they are still not privvy to how digital sales went over the holiday weekend, online CD sales were great and started earlier than usual. "We started getting hammered on [the] Tuesday [before Black Friday]," says Tim Hinsley, Super D's VP of retail sales, who serves as GM for the company's online store, DeepDiscount.com. He said DeepDiscount featured a 25% off sale beginning on November 20. "We made the decision to concentrate on what we do well, which is selling DVD boxsets, movies, and deep audio catalog. It took off and hasn't stopped," he said. "Compared to a normal day in October, sales now are running about double, and compared to last year's Black Friday week, we are running about 10%-12% above. Wednesday, Thursday Friday and Sunday were good, but Saturday was off the chart." While Cyber Monday is getting a lot of press, music industry executives say their sales numbers are not yet available for that day. Down in lower Manhattan, J&R Music & Computer World had a great day, according to Sue Bryan, GM of music and video at J&R Music World, who said the Record Store Day exclusives sold well and that the Universal Music Group's promotion helped things along. For the Black Friday week, UMG countered the annual DVD Black Friday promotions, by offering over 100 titles rebates that if featured for less than $7 and in prime in-store real estate, would net the wholesale price down to $6 or less, depending on which title was chosen by merchants. J&R marketing manager Wayne Olsen said that the day began with a bang, thanks to the line outside the door for the Record Store Day exclusives, then the Universal hits sold well, "and at 2 p.m. we had an in-store performance by Willie Nile," so business kept going all day. While most merchants contacted by Billboard appreciated UMG's promotion and the customized ones offered by the other majors (including Sony), Newbury Comics' Dreese said those campaigns would work better if modeled after the way the DVD industry structures its promotions for the holidays. "They should just offer product at a low price and allow us to sell it off during the holidays," he says. "Because it's a rebate, you don't want to market it because you can't promise it without having enough coverage in all the stores. But if you order enough to get coverage in all stores, you could have a product hangover if it doesn't sell within the allotted time allowed by the promotion. This type of promotion doesn't work for 4 or 5 days."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 0:12:20 GMT -5
Whatever the sales were, it doesn't sound too bad
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Post by badrobot on Nov 30, 2011 1:05:21 GMT -5
The entire top 49 albums sold better than the #10 album did for June 19, 2010 (Ke$ha sold 20454 for #10). I'd say that's pretty good. The #1 isn't selling massive numbers but 8 over 100k, the entire top 20 over 50k, and the entire top 50 over 20k is not bad.
We have fewer runaway smashes (only Adele this year really) but more consistent sales across the board.
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 30, 2011 1:37:27 GMT -5
-- 11 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 77,256 -- SPEAK NOW WORLD TOUR LIVE
Nice!
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 30, 2011 3:57:37 GMT -5
-- 11 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 77,256 -- SPEAK NOW WORLD TOUR LIVE Nice! It's not bad, but I was expecting a bit more. I know it's a live album, but it is Taylor Swift after all, and she did have the biggest tour of the year in the US I believe. This, however, is even more impressive - 50 33 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 29,451 +149% SPEAK NOW That should put Speak Now at 3.78 million. Hopefully the album can reach 3.9m by the end of the holiday season, then 4m sometime next year.
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