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Post by icefire9 on Feb 16, 2012 12:29:55 GMT -5
Yes, Katy's just in it to troll Adele and Whitney.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Feb 16, 2012 12:37:20 GMT -5
1 160 ADELE MAKE YOU FEEL MY LOVE (ALBUM) 14267 87 7624 818248
Unbelievable sales for an album track (as opposed to a single). Outranked only by Bruno Mars' "Marry You" and Eminem's "'Til I Collapse" in the digital, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 16, 2012 12:44:05 GMT -5
Yes, Katy's just in it to troll Adele and Whitney. Sorry, but not everyone cares about Whitney Houston's death. Katy shouldn't have to wait or "back off for a week" and delay her plans. They went full throttle ahead, and so far they are succeeding.
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Post by Rodze on Feb 16, 2012 12:44:12 GMT -5
^Then it still isn't a "true top 50". Yep. It becomes something ridiculously subjective and unfair if GME is not allowed to chart in the top 50 if it has enough points. I guess it'd be acceptable if it can only re-enter when it has an increase in points or something.
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Post by popstop on Feb 16, 2012 12:45:24 GMT -5
So I looked it up. The last time Whitney and Madonna were in the top ten together was the week ending 1/27/96. Madonna dropped out a week later while Whitney was in the midst of a long run at #2 after debuting at #1.
1 1 One Sweet Day MARIAH CAREY & BOYZ II MEN 2 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) WHITNEY HOUSTON 3 4 Missing EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL 4 3 Hey Lover LL COOL J 5 6 Name GOO GOO DOLLS 6 8 One Of us JOAN OSBORNE 7 5 Breakfast At Tiffany's DEEP BLUE SOMETHING 8 10 You'll See MADONNA 9 11 Before You Walk Out Of My Life / Like This And Like That MONICA 10 16 Be My Lover LA BOUCHE
The week ending 8/22/09 was the last time they appeared on the Hot 100 together, oddly both of them debuted that week and then fell off the next week.
Madonna at #71 with Celebration Whitney ar #74 with I Look To You
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 16, 2012 12:47:14 GMT -5
Yes, Katy's just in it to troll Adele and Whitney. Sorry, but not everyone cares about Whitney Houston's death. Katy shouldn't have to wait or "back off for a week" and delay her plans. They went full throttle ahead, and so far they are succeeding. I agree with you (my post was sarcasm), Katy (and Capitol) took a risk releasing a song in a week where there was sure to be huge competition, and its paying off spectacularly for her.
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 16, 2012 12:51:22 GMT -5
Drake replaced himself at #1 on R&B/Hip-Hop with The Motto knocking out Make Me Proud; anybody know the last time an artist did that on the chart (if ever)?
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 12:54:26 GMT -5
So I looked it up. The last time Whitney and Madonna were in the top ten together was the week ending 1/27/96. Madonna dropped out a week later while Whitney was in the midst of a long run at #2 after debuting at #1. 1 1 One Sweet Day MARIAH CAREY & BOYZ II MEN 2 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) WHITNEY HOUSTON 3 4 Missing EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL 4 3 Hey Lover LL COOL J 5 6 Name GOO GOO DOLLS 6 8 One Of us JOAN OSBORNE 7 5 Breakfast At Tiffany's DEEP BLUE SOMETHING 8 10 You'll See MADONNA 9 11 Before You Walk Out Of My Life / Like This And Like That MONICA 10 16 Be My Lover LA BOUCHE The week ending 8/22/09 was the last time they appeared on the Hot 100 together, oddly both of them debuted that week and then fell off the next week. Madonna at #71 with Celebration Whitney ar #74 with I Look To You So many classic songs in one Top 10. Even the cheesiest song (#10) has held up as a kind of novelty classic. "Name" is still amazing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 12:57:09 GMT -5
So I looked it up. The last time Whitney and Madonna were in the top ten together was the week ending 1/27/96. Madonna dropped out a week later while Whitney was in the midst of a long run at #2 after debuting at #1. 1 1 One Sweet Day MARIAH CAREY & BOYZ II MEN 2 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) WHITNEY HOUSTON 3 4 Missing EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL 4 3 Hey Lover LL COOL J 5 6 Name GOO GOO DOLLS 6 8 One Of us JOAN OSBORNE 7 5 Breakfast At Tiffany's DEEP BLUE SOMETHING 8 10 You'll See MADONNA 9 11 Before You Walk Out Of My Life / Like This And Like That MONICA 10 16 Be My Lover LA BOUCHE The week ending 8/22/09 was the last time they appeared on the Hot 100 together, oddly both of them debuted that week and then fell off the next week. Madonna at #71 with Celebration Whitney ar #74 with I Look To You So many classic songs in one Top 10. Even the cheesiest song (#10) has held up as a kind of novelty classic. "Name" is still amazing For me, #7 is the one that I can't stand One of my least favorite songs ever.
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Post by badrobot on Feb 16, 2012 13:34:05 GMT -5
Ditto @ ry4n -- I loathe Breakfast at Tiffany's
Although I'd say the only one that really doesn't stick as something I could easily hum is the Monica song.
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 13:48:19 GMT -5
The "Breakfast at Tiffany's" song got on my nerves back then too. It and La Bouche are easily my two least favorite on that list.
On the contrary, I hated "One of Us" back then and enjoy it if I hear it now.
I agree that the Monica song is probably the least well known to the general public, but I think Urban listeners would still recognize it instantly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 13:51:08 GMT -5
Breakfast at Tiffany's is my favourite from that list.
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Post by badrobot on Feb 16, 2012 13:53:55 GMT -5
I also hate One Sweet Day, but Missing is quite possibly my favorite song ever... I will say that top ten is remarkably accurate as a time capsule of that era.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 16, 2012 14:03:40 GMT -5
I also hate One Sweet Day, but Missing is quite possibly my favorite song ever... I will say that top ten is remarkably accurate as a time capsule of that era. "Wrong" > "Missing". The lyrics connect to me more than "Missing". But everything EBTG / Tracey Thorn related is great.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 14:22:29 GMT -5
Katy's record company didn't say, oh Whitney died, let's release another single. it's been planned, so nothing wrong with it.
and no one will even remotely remember what was going on the week this song went to #1. Think back 10 years ago, do you remember that grammy week and what song hit #1 and why it did? no.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 14:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 14:46:04 GMT -5
OMG Katy came SO close to debuting at #100. She could've broken the record :(
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01 NE 01 Part Of Me, Katy Perry 02 09 03 Magic, Future Featuring T.I. 03 NE 01 The Scientist, Willie Nelson 04 17 02 Sex Ain't Better Than Love, Trey Songz 05 10 02 Bad Girls, M.I.A. 06 NE 01 Time Of Your Life, Kid Ink 07 02 04 Bully, Shinedown 08 14 16 Stay, Tyrese 09 25 03 UP!, LoveRance Featuring IamSu & Skipper or 50 Cent 10 NE 01 Banjo, Rascal Flatts 11 19 06 These Days, Foo Fighters 12 18 24 Cinema, Benny Benassi Featuring Gary Go 13 RE 05 Bangarang, Skrillex Featuring Sirah 14 NE 01 Middle Finger, Cobra Starship Featuring Mac Miller 15 NE 01 Ayy Ladies, Travis Porter Featuring Tyga 16 NE 01 Endless Love, Lionel Richie Featuring Shania Twain 17 16 13 Face To The Floor, Chevelle 18 NE 01 Turn Up The Music, Chris Brown 19 22 05 Intentalo, 3BallMTY Featuring El Bebeto y America Sierra 20 20 10 Midnight City, M83. 21 23 03 Where I Belong, Building 429 22 RE 02 Thank You, Estelle 23 NE 01 Lovumba (Prestige), Daddy Yankee 24 NE 01 Fly Over States, Jason Aldean 25 NE 01 Runaway Baby, Bruno Mars
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Post by Rodze on Feb 16, 2012 14:52:48 GMT -5
Without the new "rules", Katy would have debuted at 98, which would have been just one more than Kelly's MLWSWY.
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 14:54:11 GMT -5
Without the new "rules", Katy would have debuted at 98, which would have been just one more than Kelly's MLWSWY. You don't know what the Top 50 would have looked like. For instance, Pitbull/Ne-Yo/Afrojack would have still be on the chart this week.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 16, 2012 14:55:15 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Only true if you take into consideration those songs that weren't actually bubbling under that got pushed off because of Billboard's bending the rules to favor some artists while others get slighted?
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Post by Rodze on Feb 16, 2012 14:55:21 GMT -5
Without the new "rules", Katy would have debuted at 98, which would have been just one more than Kelly's MLWSWY. You don't know what the Top 50 would have looked like. For instance, Pitbull/Ne-Yo/Afrojack would have still be on the chart this week. ^Oh, you're right. Did any other song go recurrent aside GME?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 15:00:32 GMT -5
"Brighter Than the Sun" also went recurrent.
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Post by Libra on Feb 16, 2012 15:04:23 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Only true if you take into consideration those songs that weren't actually bubbling under that got pushed off because of Billboard's bending the rules to favor some artists while others get slighted? Oh, for crying out loud... Do you honestly think that Billboard would've changed their policy had they not been through this already with Michael Jackson?
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 15:05:43 GMT -5
Then all it would have taken would be one song that was on the chart last week, that this week ranked lower than the actual #100 song and higher than #1 Bubbling Under, and then Katy would still be #1 Bubbling Under.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 15:12:47 GMT -5
You don't know that though. GME might've been like #56 this week for all we know. And that would make it #53 without the Whitney songs, and therefore would've gone recurrent with or without the rule change... (same thing for Colbie's song)
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On a different note, since there's been so many old Top 10's posted lately, gave me an idea... I can do these every week if you guys like ^^
Retro Top 10's
1 year ago (2/26/11)
1 - Born This Way LADY GAGA (1st week of 6 @ #1)[/color] 2 3 Firework KATY PERRY 3 2 Grenade BRUNO MARS 4 1 Black And Yellow WIZ KHALIFA 5 4 F**kin' Perfect P!NK 6 6 Tonight (I'm Lovin' You) ENRIQUE IGLESIAS featuring LUDACRIS & DJ FRANK E 7 16 F**k You! CEE LO GREEN 8 31 S&M RIHANNA 9 19 The Time (Dirty Bit) THE BLACK EYED PEAS 10 10 Hold It Against Me BRITNEY SPEARS
5 years ago (2/24/07)
1 2 Say It Right NELLY FURTADO (1st and only week @ #1)[/color] 2 1 Irreplaceable BEYONCE 3 5 The Sweet Escape GWEN STEFANI featuring AKON 4 3 This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race FALL OUT BOY 5 6 Runaway Love LUDACRIS featuring MARY J. BLIGE 6 4 It's Not Over DAUGHTRY 7 15 Cupid's Chokehold GYM CLASS HEROES featuring PATRICK STUMP 8 11 What Goes Around... JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE 9 31 Glamorous FERGIE featuring LUDACRIS 10 7 I Wanna Love You AKON featuring SNOOP DOGG
10 years ago (2/23/02)
1 3 Always On Time JA RULE featuring ASHANTI (1st of 2 weeks @ #1)[/color] 2 2 How You Remind Me NICKELBACK 3 1 U Got It Bad USHER 4 4 Ain't It Funny JENNIFER LOPEZ featuring JA RULE 5 5 In The End LINKIN PARK 6 6 Hey Baby NO DOUBT featuring BOUNTY KILLER 7 8 Wherever You Will Go THE CALLING 8 7 My Sacrifice CREED 9 10 Get The Party Started P!NK 10 12 What About Us? BRANDY
15 years ago (2/22/97)
1 2 Wannabe SPICE GIRLS (1st of 4 weeks @ #1)[/color] 2 1 Un-Break My Heart TONI BRAXTON 3 5 Can't Nobody Hold Me Down PUFF DADDY featuring MASE 4 4 I Believe I Can Fly R. KELLY 5 3 Don't let Go (Love) EN VOGUE 6 8 You Were Meant For Me / Foolish Games JEWEL 7 6 I Believe In You And Me WHITNEY HOUSTON 8 7 Nobody KEITH SWEAT featuring ATHENA CAGE 9 12 In My bed DRU HILL 10 - Discotheque U2
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Post by Rodze on Feb 16, 2012 15:15:16 GMT -5
Oh, so if a song has charted on the Hot 100 it can't appear on Bubbling Under anymore?
Didn't know about that.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 16, 2012 15:20:14 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Only true if you take into consideration those songs that weren't actually bubbling under that got pushed off because of Billboard's bending the rules to favor some artists while others get slighted? Oh, for crying out loud... Do you honestly think that Billboard would've changed their policy had they not been through this already with Michael Jackson? I actually agree with the change itself. I don't agree with them waiting until Whitney died to implement the change. Billboard should've done the rule change leading into the next year so they have consistent rules for the entire chart year. No changing things on the fly type stuff. If Michael Jackson was the reason for the rule change, they should've done it at the end of that chart year.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 16, 2012 15:21:57 GMT -5
Then all it would have taken would be one song that was on the chart last week, that this week ranked lower than the actual #100 song and higher than #1 Bubbling Under, and then Katy would still be #1 Bubbling Under. Whitney has 3 songs on there. So it would've taken 3 songs. EDIT: have to factor in reccurrents too.
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 15:22:03 GMT -5
You don't know that though. GME might've been like #56 this week for all we know. I thought someone already posted that Billboard said the rule forced Pitbull to go recurrent this week? Regardless though, the fact that we don't know is my point. We can't say "Katy got robbed of a record" because there are many other variables that we don't know, both in terms of songs dropping out of the Top 50 and the Top 100. Cool seeing those old charts. Last year's stands out as particularly crap, but some of the others look good overall. Seems so odd now that Fall Out Boy peaked so high in 2007. I've completely forgotten that song already.
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 15:23:06 GMT -5
Then all it would have taken would be one song that was on the chart last week, that this week ranked lower than the actual #100 song and higher than #1 Bubbling Under, and then Katy would still be #1 Bubbling Under. Whitney has 3 songs on there. So it would've taken 3 songs. But we were talking about two songs that potentially would have still been in the Top 50 in those prior posts. You have to account for that possibility too.
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