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Post by bornfearless2000 on Dec 6, 2012 6:08:38 GMT -5
yeah yeah, you said you liked Carrie in her thread and you bashed Carrie on other singer's thread. yeah yeah. you said it was her 'weakest' album but then again, you're surprised it wasn't nominated. YEAH YEAH Perhaps you should learn not to take things so personally? Liking an artist doesn't exactly mean you'll like all they do by default. I love Carrie's music, though I wasn't too big on this record (I can address you to the time where we discussed this, where you can see I wasn't that into it). I'm really hoping she releases something a bit more similar to Some Hearts next, because that's still my jam and I'd love for her to be that big again. My opinion isn't popular but I really loved Play On, and thought it was stronger than Blown Away. Also, just because I didn't think it was as strong as people claimed, doesn't mean that my opinion makes much of a difference in the Grammy's. I still expected her to be nominated, especially because a lot of people seemed to love the album and thought it was her best. And Carrie has been known to be a grammy's darling. Perhaps you should stop stanning and learn to read and respect other's take on an artist you love, even if you don't agree with them. and you should learn not to be a two-faced person
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 6:15:23 GMT -5
Can we not?
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Dec 6, 2012 6:17:17 GMT -5
sorry. sorry.. <3
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Post by strikeleo on Dec 6, 2012 6:29:54 GMT -5
Perhaps you should learn not to take things so personally? Liking an artist doesn't exactly mean you'll like all they do by default. I love Carrie's music, though I wasn't too big on this record (I can address you to the time where we discussed this, where you can see I wasn't that into it). I'm really hoping she releases something a bit more similar to Some Hearts next, because that's still my jam and I'd love for her to be that big again. My opinion isn't popular but I really loved Play On, and thought it was stronger than Blown Away. Also, just because I didn't think it was as strong as people claimed, doesn't mean that my opinion makes much of a difference in the Grammy's. I still expected her to be nominated, especially because a lot of people seemed to love the album and thought it was her best. And Carrie has been known to be a grammy's darling. Perhaps you should stop stanning and learn to read and respect other's take on an artist you love, even if you don't agree with them. and you should learn not to be a two-faced person You're embarrassing yourself here. Try to respect others' opinions before posting, and take a closer look at the boards' rules, you just crossed one. ;) I love reading long-winded posts like those, 14887:). I'll respond to some of your points, though for length reasons I won't directly quote you: - 1D and Justin's snubs are completely unsurprising to me. I think the Grammy voters finally got over their 'obligatory bubblegum-pop nominee in a big 4 category' phase and/or were tired of catching flak for it in previous years and decided to leave it alone this year. This unfortunately screwed 1D over completely, as normally that would be their spot to occupy (and lose, like Bieber and the JoBros before them). But I just don't think anyone sees them as more than a craze right now. They don't catch as much animosity as Bieber did for it, but they're not taken seriously. As for Biebs himself, he is in a sort of transitional phase right now; he is attempting to grow up and move beyond the teen-act phase, and he's making strides, but he's still not fully there yet in everyone's minds. Right now just managing to secure radio success is a big step for him. The awards and begrudging critic approval will have to come later. - Nicki doesn't surprise me because a) her pop hits were not substantial enough to hang with the big contenders (even aside from the five nominated in pop vocal, I think there are several other songs that would have been ahead of Nicki); and b) she's lost a lot of goodwill in the urban community, and that is reflected in the lack of votes she got in the urban categories. - Take Care came out really early in the eligibility period and may have lost an AOTY nod because of that. I know I had it pegged as an early AOTY contender this time last year, but had completely forgotten about it some months after that And also, the AOTY category is so rock and alt-heavy - even Frank could arguably be considered "alternative" r&b, and fun "alt"-pop - that I get the feeling Drake didn't have a chance. It's like last year when four of the five AOTY contenders were pop albums. Grammy voters sometimes get stuck on a trend or pattern and there's really no sense to be made out of their reasoning. - I'm going to change my mind twenty times between now and February 10 on who I think will win ROTY and SOTY. I don't know how WANEGBT got in the ROTY category. That's nothing against Taylor or the song, I just think that is a spot that should have gone to "Call Me Maybe." I had STIUTK pegged as the runaway ROTY and SOTY favorite but that was before fun. cleaned up with nominations in all four major categories and Gotye didn't even get a a SOTY nod, shockingly. I'm also really surprised at CMM getting a SOTY nom, but then no ROTY spot. That should be the other way around, for sure. I tend to let my biases about what the SOTY category should be about get in my way of accurately predicting it, which is why I guessed Ed or Miguel would win it. I forget that my definition of a "writer's song" and the Grammy voters' definition of such are...extremely divergent. I guess I'll suck it up and get used to the idea of WAY winning this. - I noted in Kelly's thread that WDKY and WAY are the only two songs nominated in both ROTY and SOTY, so maybe these are indeed the two frontrunners for these categories. However, if that is the case I really think (and hope) that WDKY would be the one to get ROTY, while WAY would take SOTY. Kelly doesn't have a co-write on "Stronger" and I want to see HER win. And with the seeming emphasis that was placed on her nominations, I have a feeling Grammy voters may feel the same way. This really does feel like it's Kelly's year, in terms of peer recognition. I don't think they'd renege on that sentiment by awarding the songwriters but not her. - BNA: Lumineers feel too new, Alabama Shakes feel too obscure, and Hunter Hayes feels too overlooked by non-country fans. I agree that fun. and Frank are the two major contenders here and it's one or the other. I'm still pretty convinced it's Frank's, but it depends on how much of the fun. kool-aid Grammy voters are drinking. That, we won't be able to tell at all until the actual show. - Completely agreed on pop solo performance and pop vocal album. Of course there is the possibility fun. could get the Daydream/ Acoustic Soul treatment in the album category, but that isn't common and hopefully won't happen to anyone this year. I'm not a huge fan of theirs but I hate to see people get a bunch of nominations only to be snubbed out in the end. @headofthepack - WFL got submitted to stuff last year, so was ineligible this year. I think that was very unfortunate, it would have been a strong competitor this year. Anyway, moving forward, I do miss We Found Love in some of this categories. Had it been eligible this year, I could see it winning Record of the Year. Regarding the Record of the Year category, I see Somebody That I Used to Know as the big competitor. The song was huge and played everywhere, plus, it's from a less known and less commercial act, having all the odds, in my opinion. The only two remaining with a shot of winning this are Kelly's Stronger and Fun.'s We Are Young, but I can't see either one winning, even if I wish Kelly could take this. I also feel like Taylor's nomination was aiming towards ratings, more than anything. I'm a big fan but even I know it's not deserving of the spot it got, but Taylor is an audience draw, and perhaps they were aiming at that? And about Call Me Maybe, I definitely agree. It should've gotten nominated here, definitely not in the SOTY category. @nicki, I feel like the main reason she wasn't nominated is because of her personality? Sure, her record isn't up to the standards, but there are a bunch of records nominated that I wouldn't have guessed would be, as well. Since this is an industry voting thing, and from what I've read, Nicki has been cutting all her connections, I see it as the potential reason for her not to be nominated at anything.
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Post by hitseeker. on Dec 6, 2012 6:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by Rodze on Dec 6, 2012 6:58:14 GMT -5
ROTY: WANEGBT * lollollol SOTY: CMM * lol SOTY: "The A Team" * good surprise Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance: "Love Bites (So Do I)" * good surprise
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Post by p0isonparadise. on Dec 6, 2012 7:10:21 GMT -5
These nominations are such a joke.
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Post by K. on Dec 6, 2012 7:21:15 GMT -5
What a strange group of nods. A very alternative- and indie-heavy AOTY group and a very pop-heavy SOTY group? The latter is probably the strangest. Hard to believe that one of those five is going to win the award for best songwriting of the year. Weird group for BNA as well.
I think the nominations in the Pop Field are pretty flawless though.
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Post by rosemoor on Dec 6, 2012 7:28:00 GMT -5
These nominations are such a joke. cosign
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 6, 2012 7:32:19 GMT -5
These nominations are such a joke. There has to be one odd one out I guess.
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Post by jptexas on Dec 6, 2012 7:58:31 GMT -5
Having seen the Grammys nominate people who are not exactly household names before, this group Doesn't surprise me. Well, except for Blown Away not getting a nod for country album, especially after seeing this list. With 2 going on 3 number one singles, a platinum certification and pretty good reviews, I was really thinking that Carrie would finally get the album nomination. But, it's a no go. Still, she did get 2 other nods so its all good.
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Post by Envoirment on Dec 6, 2012 8:31:16 GMT -5
My thoughts: 1. at Adele getting nominated for "Set Fire To The Rain" (live). The grammys love her! 2. Woo congratz fun., Ed Sheeran, Kelly Clarkson(!!), P!nk and Florence & The Machine! That's pretty much it lol. Hopefully we'll get some great performances on the show itself! :)
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Post by timberlake on Dec 6, 2012 8:49:32 GMT -5
Goyte wasn't snubbed for SOTY. He didn't submit there...
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Post by Caviar on Dec 6, 2012 10:07:31 GMT -5
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 6, 2012 10:17:32 GMT -5
But they gave Carly Rae 2 nominations. What a shame he can't be happy for her alone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 10:35:06 GMT -5
I like Bieber, and love "Believe" and it's singles, but I don't think he was stronger than the actual nominees. Who would he replace? If they didn't combine the vocal categories I think he would have gotten a pop nod.
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Post by when the pawn... on Dec 6, 2012 10:37:16 GMT -5
INITIAL PREDICTIONS (this will change countless times before Grammy night) - ranked in terms of likeliness to win
Album of the Year 1 channel ORANGE by Frank Ocean 2 Babel by Mumford & Sons 3 El Camino by The Black Keys 4 Some Nights by fun. 5 Blunderbuss by Jack White
Record of the Year 1 "Somebody That I Used To Know" by Gotye & Kimbra 2 "We Are Young" by fun. & Janelle Monae 3 "Thinkin Bout You" by Frank Ocean 4 "Lonely Boy" by The Black Keys 5 "(What Doesn't Kill You) Stronger" by Kelly Clarkson 6 "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" by Taylor Swift
Song of the Year 1 "We Are Young" performed by fun. & Janelle Monae 2 "(What Doesn't Kill You) Stronger" by Kelly Clarkson 3 "Call Me Maybe" performed by Carly Rae Jepsen 4 "Adorn" performed by Miguel 5 "The A Team" performed by Ed Sheeran
Best New Artist 1 Frank Ocean 2 fun. 3 The Lumineers 4 Alabama Shakes 5 Hunter Hayes
Pop Solo Performance 1 "(What Doesn't Kill You) Stronger" by Kelly Clarkson 2 "Set Fire To The Rain (Live)" by Adele 3 "Call Me Maybe" by Carly Rae Jepsen 4 "Wide Awake" by Katy Perry 5 "Where Have You Been" by Rihanna
Pop Duo/Group Performance 1 "Somebody That I Used To Know" by Gotye & Kimbra 2 "We Are Young" by fun. & Janelle Monae 3 "Payphone" by Maroon 5 & Wiz Khalifa 4 "Shake It Out" by Florence + The Machine 5 "Sexy And I Know It" by LMFAO
Pop Vocal Album 1 Some Nights by fun. 2 Stronger by Kelly Clarkson 3 Overexposed by Maroon 5 4 The Truth About Love by P!nk 5 Ceremonials by Florence + The Machine
Rock Vocal Performance 1 "Lonely Boy" by The Black Keys 2 "I Will Wait" by Mumford & Sons 3 "We Take Care Of Our Own" by Bruce Springsteen 4 "Charlie Brown" by Coldplay 5 "Hold On" by Alabama Shakes
Rock Song 1 "We Take Care Of Our Own" performed by Bruce Springsteen 2 "I Will Wait" performed by Mumford & Sons 3 "Lonely Boy" performed by The Black Keys 4 "Freedom At 21" performed by Jack White 5 "Madness" performed by Muse
Rock Album 1 El Camino by The Black Keys 2 Mylo Xyloto by Coldplay 3 Blunderbuss by Jack White 4 Wrecking Ball by Bruce Springsteen 5 The 2nd Law by Muse
Alternative Music Album 1 Making Mirrors by Gotye 2 The Idler Wheel... by Fiona Apple 3 Hurry Up, We're Dreaming by M83 4 Biophilia by Bjork 5 Bad As Me by Tom Waits
R&B Performance 1 "Climax" by Usher 2 "Adorn" by Miguel 3 "Gonna Be alright (F.T.B.)" by Robert Glasper Experiment & Ledisi 4 "I Want you" by Luke James 5 "Thank You" by Estelle
R&B Song 1 "Adorn" performed by Miguel 2 "Refill" performed by Elle Varner 3 "Beautiful Surprise" performed by Tamia 4 "Pray For Me" performed by Anthony Hamilton 5 "Heart Attack" performed by Trey Songz
Urban Contemporary Album 1 channel ORANGE by Frank Ocean 2 Kaleidoscope Dream by Miguel 3 Fortune by Chris Brown
Rap Performance 1 "N****s In Paris" by Jay-Z & Kanye West 2 "Mercy" by Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T & 2 Chainz 3 "HYFR" by Drake & Lil' Wayne 4 "Daughters" by Nas 5 "I Do" by Young Jeezy, Jay-Z & Andre 3000
Rap/Sung Collaboration 1 "No Church In The Wild" by Jay-Z, Kanye West & Frank Ocean 2 "Cherry Wine" by Nas & Amy Winehouse 3 "Tonight (Best You Ever Had)" by John Legend & Ludacris 4 "Talk That Talk" by Rihanna & Jay-Z 5 "Wild Ones" by Flo Rida & Sia
Rap Song 1 "N****s In Paris" performed by Jay-Z & Kanye West 2 "Mercy" performed by Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T & 2 Chainz 3 "The Motto" performed by Drake & Lil' Wayne 4 "Daughters" performed by Nas 5 "Young, Wild & Free" performed by Snoop Dogg, Wiz Khalifa & Bruno Mars 6 "Lotus Flower Bomb" performed by Wale & Miguel
Rap Album 1 Take Care by Drake 2 Life Is Good by Nas 3 Undun by The Roots 4 Based On A T.R.U. Story by 2 Chainz 5 Food & Liquor II: The Great American Rap Album, Pt. 1 by Lupe Fiasco 6 God Forgives, I Don't by Rick Ross
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Post by rosemoor on Dec 6, 2012 10:43:38 GMT -5
Never a bieber fan, but I kind of agree with this one. tswiftie's Never Ever nom is pure garbage.
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Post by ItGirl on Dec 6, 2012 11:17:59 GMT -5
I like the kid. But whatever. Talk to your mentor Biebs. Usher didn't win a Grammy until his 3rd album and he was in his 20s. And he could sing.
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Post by braveheart on Dec 6, 2012 11:32:01 GMT -5
A pure R&b song nominated for Song OF THE Year...thats impressive..can Miguel bring back R&B ?
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 6, 2012 12:14:37 GMT -5
Wow. I am SHOCKED that Usher did not get nominated for "Looking 4 Myself" for either R&B album category. No surprise that "Climax" got nominated, but it has some serious competition with "Adorn."
That POS "Fortune" got a nomination...L4M is actually quite good. Not very commercially successful (Usher's first "failure" I guess), but an excellent album. I'm just a little shocked right now.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 6, 2012 12:16:28 GMT -5
A pure R&b song nominated for Song OF THE Year...thats impressive..can Miguel bring back R&B ? Man, I hope so. His music is superb and the album is amazing- it's very well put together.
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Post by AP on Dec 6, 2012 12:26:11 GMT -5
Scooter Bruan probably shouldn't be bitching about nominations his artists' didn't get. It's very unprofessional, IMO. CRJ got 2 noms and he still had to say he was disappointed she didn't get BNA. Overall, the Grammys neglected teen acts this year--CMM is an exception as it was such a cultural phenomenon. Better luck next year, Biebz.
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Post by KingB on Dec 6, 2012 12:26:35 GMT -5
so happy for tamia
and c'mon King BEY for that 44th nomination
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Post by BadRomance on Dec 6, 2012 12:52:26 GMT -5
Glad to see Ed Sheeran, Florence + The Machine, The Lumineers, Frank Ocean and .fun in there!
My only critic have to be Taylor Swift's We Are Never Ever Getting Together as the Record Of The Year, really??
And they totally snubbed Lana Del Rey, Ellie Goulding & Of Monsters and Men :(
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Post by bat1990 on Dec 6, 2012 13:39:53 GMT -5
Whoo! Björk got a nom!!!!!! Did not expect that
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Post by spoonabdul3 on Dec 6, 2012 13:49:35 GMT -5
can anyone else rmember in recent years where the ROTY and SOTY have differed as much as they do this year? i would think WAY and Stronger would be the frontrunners, since they were the only two to score nominations in both categories
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Post by when the pawn... on Dec 6, 2012 14:02:23 GMT -5
It's rare for a song only nominated in ROTY/SOTY to win over double-nominees (unless there are eligiblity issues, like with Boulevard of Broken Dreams or Clocks). See below (double nominee = nominated for Record Of The Year and Song of the Year). Ones in bold are the only times in the last 10 years where a double nominee was beat by a single nominee.
2011 - Adele, Rolling in the Deep - double nominee 2010 - Lady Antebellum, Need You Now - double nominee 2009 - Kings of Leon, Use Somebody - double nominee 2009 - Beyonce, Single Ladies - only submitted to SOTY 2008 - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss, Please Read the Letter - only submitted to ROTY, I believe 2008 - Coldplay, Viva la Vida - double nominee 2007 - Amy Winehouse, Rehab - double nominee 2006 - Dixie Chicks, Not Ready To Make Nice - double nominee 2005 - Green Day, Boulevard of Broken Dreams - only submitted to ROTY 2005 - U2, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own - single nominee, beat "We Belong Together" 2004 - Ray Charles & Norah Jones, Here We Go Again - only submitted to ROTY 2004 - John Mayer, Daughters - no double nominees that year 2003 - Coldplay, Clocks - only submitted to ROTY 2003 - Luther Vandross, Dance With My Father - single nominee, beat "Lose Yourself" 2002 - Norah Jones, Don't Know Why - double nominee
This gives very good odds to "We Are Young" and "(What Doesn't Kill You) Stronger" in ROTY/SOTY this year, as the only double-nominees. Of course, "Somebody that I Used To Know" wasn't submitted for SOTY so it is also very much in the mix for Record of the Year. The Black Keys, Carly Rae Jepsen, Miguel, Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran and Frank Ocean all submitted in both categories (as far as I know) but were only nominated in one, therefore giving them pretty tough odds of winning either award.
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Post by applechic on Dec 6, 2012 14:38:02 GMT -5
Yeah maybe JB was more deserving than a couple of the nominees there (just a couple)...but he's still too young and has plenty of time to develop into an artist and score multiple noms in the future. He'll have to work harder than the rest to be recognized by the Grammys because his popularity will actually hurt him here. I wonder if Usher had anything to say about this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 15:29:21 GMT -5
"To all his fans...looks like we get to stay the underdog a little longer"
Uh, what? Because he didn't get any love this year, Bieber and his fanbase are suddenly underdogs? That tweet is more stupid than it is effective.
But, I do agree with him on the points of thinking that he would be nominated for something. In the end, though, something's gotta give and someone's going to end up in the dust. It was Justin's turn this year.
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