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Post by ZAYN on Jun 20, 2012 4:00:03 GMT -5
HITS: JUSTIN TIME: Look for Justin Bieber’s IDJ album Believe to debut with more than 400k in sales next week ... With sales brisk, insiders are even wondering if a “5” could go in front of that total. 5,400,000? LEGEND I had a good long laugh at this! |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 20, 2012 15:19:47 GMT -5
www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news09022BIEBER NO BOTTLENECK AT #1 Pop Star Poised for Year’s Biggest Debut, Chesney #2 June 20, 2012 The arrival of IDJ’s Believe occurs Justin time for music retailers around the country, with impressive one-day sales turning them into true Beliebers. That’s right, the young teenpop star’s new album, his third (if you don’t count last year’s holiday album, Under the Mistletoe), will debut at #1 next week with between 420-440k in sales, his best individual total to date, and the highest of the year. Madonna’s MDNA held the previous mark when it bowed with nearly 360k in sales back in March. My World 2.0, his previous high, sold 283k when it came out March, 2010. Kenny Chesney’s first release for his new Blue Chair imprint through Columbia Nashville, Welcome to the Fishbowl, will debut at #2 with an estimated 185-210k. Epic’s latest Fiona Apple opus, the elegantly titled The Idler Wheel is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw and Whipping Cords will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do, is looking at a first-week total of 65-70k amid rave reviews. Smashing Pumpkins’ Oceania, Billy Corgan’s latest iteration of the band through Martha's Music/EMI Label Services, is looking at a not-bad-at-all 45-50k. Five Seven ska-reggae-hip-hop-alt rockers Dirty Heads’ sophomore album, Cabin by the Sea, the follow-up to 2008’s surprise hit, Any Port in a Storm, looks to be in the 20-25k range
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 20, 2012 15:24:34 GMT -5
WOW AT KENNY
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 20, 2012 15:26:21 GMT -5
Yes those are very solid sales for Kenny.
Bieber's projection is great too, of course.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 20, 2012 15:29:27 GMT -5
Who here predicted that Kenny Chesney would do better than Usher?
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Didn't think so.
His last album, by the way, opened with 183,000. He's having a very consistent career.
Looking forward to the full projections tomorrow. I'd love to see how Usher, fun., One Direction, and Adele are supposed to do this week.
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Post by josh on Jun 20, 2012 17:56:09 GMT -5
Believe is on sale for $4.99 on Amazon. It's still only #26, though.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 20, 2012 17:56:46 GMT -5
^ That's kinda weird..
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Post by halo19 on Jun 20, 2012 18:55:31 GMT -5
Smashing Pumpkins’ Oceania, Billy Corgan’s latest iteration of the band through Martha's Music/EMI Label Services, is looking at a not-bad-at-all 45-50k. Well, that's not bad when you consider the intentional lack of a single to promote the album. This album's success will depend entirely on word of mouth value. Not even half the sales Zeitgeist had, but that had an Alternative Top 10. |
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Post by Rican@ on Jun 20, 2012 20:22:25 GMT -5
Really don't care for Beiber's opening, just curious about Usher's second week. That's the real story
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jun 20, 2012 20:49:59 GMT -5
Justin Bieber, Kenny Chesney Headed for Top Two on Billboard 200 Chart June 20, 2012 | By Keith Caulfield ( keith_caulfield), Los Angeles Justin Bieber's just-released Believe album has all but locked-up a No. 1 debut on the Billboard 200 chart next week. Industry sources suggest the album will sell in the range of 410,000 to 440,000 by the end of the tracking week on Sunday, June 24. It is poised to earn the highest debut sales frame of the year and Bieber's best ever. It will surpass 2012's current debut champ, Madonna's MDNA, which started with 359,000 according to Nielsen SoundScan. Bieber's highest week thus far came when " y World 2.0 sold 291,000 in its second week at No. 1 in April, 2010. The new Billboard 200 chart's top 10 will be revealed on the morning of Wednesday, June 27. However, Bieber isn't the only major star with a new album out this week. Joining Believe are new arrivals from country titan Kenny Chesney, a returning Fiona Apple and the latest from the Smashing Pumpkins. Chesney's Welcome to the Fishbowl is seemingly headed for a No. 2 debut with around 200,000. His last set, 2010's Hemingway's Whiskey, entered at No. 1 with 183,000 sold according to Nielsen SoundScan. How Island Def Jam Saved Justin Bieber's 'Boyfriend' at Top 40 Radio Welcome to the Fishbowl will likely secure Chesney his 10th top 10 album on the Billboard 200, and his 11th No. 1 on the Top Country Albums chart. Fiona Apple's new The Idler Wheel . . . -- her first album since 2005's Extraordinary Machine -- could debut in the top five next week. Sources say it will sell around 70,000 copies. She was last on the Billboard 200 on March 11, 2006, when Extraordinary Machine wrapped up its final week on the tally. The last of the biggest debuts will come from Smashing Pumpkins' Oceania, with around 50,000 copies. It could mark the band's seventh top 10 album, and will follow 2007's No. 2-peaking Zeitgeist. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 20, 2012 22:05:45 GMT -5
They should have sent Kenny against Usher. LOL can you imagine the shock when Usher sold half of what he was predicted to sell AND lost out the #1 album?
I am still curious about next week. For some reason I am having issues predicting where M5 and LP will land. I feel like both could surprise in either direction.
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Post by josh on Jun 20, 2012 22:07:41 GMT -5
I am having issues predicting where M5 and LP will land. I feel like both could surprise in either direction. Wow. Great insight there. ;) |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 20, 2012 22:34:14 GMT -5
It isn't easy being brilliant ;)
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Post by halo19 on Jun 20, 2012 22:47:18 GMT -5
Oh man, I listened to Fiona Apple's new one just once and I think it is already her best to date. I thought she had quality work with When the Pawn, but this is a contender for album of the year for me.
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Post by on2thenext1 on Jun 21, 2012 5:01:04 GMT -5
Who here predicted that Kenny Chesney would do better than Usher? ... Didn't think so. His last album, by the way, opened with 183,000. He's having a very consistent career. Looking forward to the full projections tomorrow. I'd love to see how Usher, fun., One Direction, and Adele are supposed to do this week. still a far cry from the 500k+ numbers he use to could post his first week |
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Post by when the pawn... on Jun 21, 2012 7:39:13 GMT -5
Excellent for Fiona - what did Extraordinary Machine open with?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 21, 2012 8:46:37 GMT -5
Excellent for Fiona - what did Extraordinary Machine open with? 94,000. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 21, 2012 12:55:08 GMT -5
Who here predicted that Kenny Chesney would do better than Usher? ... Didn't think so. His last album, by the way, opened with 183,000. He's having a very consistent career. Looking forward to the full projections tomorrow. I'd love to see how Usher, fun., One Direction, and Adele are supposed to do this week. still a far cry from the 500k+ numbers he use to could post his first week If you're referring to Chesney, nobody can maintain those kind of opening weeks for ten years. It's just impossible. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 21, 2012 13:24:47 GMT -5
^Why do people keep commenting on sales from before 2005? Before 2008?
The music industry has changed completely since these years.
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Post by on2thenext1 on Jun 21, 2012 14:42:33 GMT -5
still a far cry from the 500k+ numbers he use to could post his first week If you're referring to Chesney, nobody can maintain those kind of opening weeks for ten years. It's just impossible. yes, that's common knowledge. I simply stated a fact that's all. |
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Post by on2thenext1 on Jun 21, 2012 14:57:47 GMT -5
^Why do people keep commenting on sales from before 2005? Before 2008? The music industry has changed completely since these years. for the same reason u can comment on whatever u wanna comment on. :) Plus its not like debuting with big numbers is a thing of the past. If the music and promo is right, an album can sell as well as albums from years ago (See The Fame Monster, Taylor Swift Albums, Em's last album, 21, Take Care, Justin Bieber albums) |
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Post by asg4 on Jun 21, 2012 15:14:28 GMT -5
Who here predicted that Kenny Chesney would do better than Usher? ... Didn't think so. His last album, by the way, opened with 183,000. He's having a very consistent career. Looking forward to the full projections tomorrow. I'd love to see how Usher, fun., One Direction, and Adele are supposed to do this week. Country albums still sell |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 21, 2012 15:32:57 GMT -5
^Why do people keep commenting on sales from before 2005? Before 2008? The music industry has changed completely since these years. for the same reason u can comment on whatever u wanna comment on. :) Plus its not like debuting with big numbers is a thing of the past. If the music and promo is right, an album can sell as well as albums from years ago (See The Fame Monster, Taylor Swift Albums, Em's last album, 21, Take Care, Justin Bieber albums) So you think that if Chesney had the right music and promo, he could open at 500k? Not gonna happen. It's just diminishing returns. This is 10th studio album? 200k is excellent for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 16:24:26 GMT -5
Plus its not like debuting with big numbers is a thing of the past. If the music and promo is right, an album can sell as well as albums from years ago (See The Fame Monster, Taylor Swift Albums, Em's last album, 21, Take Care, Justin Bieber albums) Yeah, but all those albums are exceptions to the rule. The general trend in the industry--not just country, but all genres--has been less album sales. Scoring multi-platinum albums is rare unless you're really hot. Like, right now, Jason Aldean and Lady Antebellum can score 2x or 3x Platinum albums if those albums have big hits and several other stars can still hit Platinum as well. But back in the day, Kenny plus Keith Urban, Toby Keith, Brad Pasiley, Tim McGraw, and many others could sell albums even more than the red hot stars of today. There were 5x and 6x platinum albums and they're just fewer and farther between these days. And then of course Garth and Shania sold even more, and not even the biggest album sellers of today--the red hot stars on radio and with huge tours, such as Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift, Lady Antebellum, Jason Aldean, and Kenny Chesney as well--Garth and Shania could regularly sell 10-15 million copies or more of a single album and they did this with several albums each. Kenny's numbers are great, especially for a big country star who doesn't cross-over. I do think Jason Aldean will pull in BIG numbers with his next album this fall, and then next year I expect to see Luke Bryan and Eric Church increase upon their 150k openings from this past summer, but anything in the 150k range or higher is really good for a country artist. They usually have pretty good longevity and even aging veterans like Alan Jackson or George Strait can still open with 70-100k and get Gold albums or better. |
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Post by on2thenext1 on Jun 21, 2012 16:46:26 GMT -5
for the same reason u can comment on whatever u wanna comment on. :) Plus its not like debuting with big numbers is a thing of the past. If the music and promo is right, an album can sell as well as albums from years ago (See The Fame Monster, Taylor Swift Albums, Em's last album, 21, Take Care, Justin Bieber albums) So you think that if Chesney had the right music and promo, he could open at 500k? Yes, well 300-500k. Before Kenny the only male Country artist I listened to was Garth Brooks (I love the country ladies tho) and Lonestar on occasion. Kenny's music has gotten bad imo. Could be burn out, I mean from 1994 to 2012 (18 years) he's had 18 releases (3 or 4 of which have been compilations). But 'Feel Like A Rock Star' was a huge disappointment. I remember when I first read his lead single would be with Tim McGraw I thought the song and this album would smash. It most def has underperformed. Kenny's lead singles typically fly to #1 @ Country radio. For this track to miss the top 10 says a lot about the song. It's actually his first single to miss the top 10 since 2001. If Kenny and Tim McGraw had cooked up a REALLY good song, and not that mess they put out, this album could have had a big debut, especially if they had promoted it on talks shows and what not. |
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Post by on2thenext1 on Jun 21, 2012 16:49:05 GMT -5
Plus its not like debuting with big numbers is a thing of the past. If the music and promo is right, an album can sell as well as albums from years ago (See The Fame Monster, Taylor Swift Albums, Em's last album, 21, Take Care, Justin Bieber albums) Yeah, but all those albums are exceptions to the rule. I don't really agree with this. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 21, 2012 18:08:25 GMT -5
Do we have an example of an artist who has sold 500K+ with every album in its debut week and they have been in the business for 10+ years?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 21, 2012 18:12:14 GMT -5
^ Eminem, maybe?
Britney Spears has opened with 500k+ four out of seven times, most recently with Circus.
Here's something I didn't know: Madonna has never opened with more than 500k.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Jun 21, 2012 18:16:56 GMT -5
I was thinking him also. He has to be the closest & only person to have done that. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 21, 2012 18:21:33 GMT -5
I was thinking him also. He has to be the closest & only person to have done that. Working backwards: Recovery: 741,000 Relapse: 609,000 Encore: 710,000 (in a three-day first week) The Eminem Show: 1,322,000 (in its second chart week, but first full week) The Marshall Mathers LP: 1,760,000 Slim Shady LP: 283,0000 Infinite: >1,000 |
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