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Post by Chase on Jul 17, 2007 23:02:20 GMT -5
That helps tremendously. Thank you!
I really hope this song hits big on Hot AC. Five years can be an eternity between albums, especially since trends change drastically during half a decade. As much as I didn't like RT's solo work compared to MB20, I think that the success of Something To Be helped bridge the hiatus. Had STB flopped upon its release, does anyone think there would be as much interest in new MB20 material?
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 17, 2007 23:06:49 GMT -5
No problem, and I agree!
Gotta say that I didn't like Rob's solo work as much (except for "Ever the Same", my favorite song).
I hope this can go to #1, but like I said; "Over You" will probably hit #1 and I don't know if this will make it there.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 17, 2007 23:59:10 GMT -5
^ I think it will hit top 5, but will probably be blocked from the top 3 by the likes of Daughtry, Maroon 5, Lifehouse (if "Broken" gets there in time), and Nickelback's next single (I think will leap-frog this when it comes out). I guess I think it will peak at #4. What do you think? It's important to remember this is a lead single from a major format staple we're talking about here, and lead singles most often climb the charts fastest. It's going to be at least several months before Lifehouse releases their second single from "Who We Are" (who have yet to chart multiple hits from a single album) and Nickelback are currently on a summer tour and currently in the pre-production stage for their next album so it's going to be about half a year or more until we get something new from them all but certainly. I think Daughtry will be the closest rival to matchbox twenty with "Over You", but matchbox twenty does have the lead single here, and that will automatically offer them the advantage in the race to the top. I think this has a good shot at going #1 here. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this has a faster fall than some of their other e=recent single releases (faster than "Bright Lights" and "Unwell" but slower than "Disease") Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by blurple on Jul 18, 2007 0:12:24 GMT -5
It's important to remember this is a lead single from a major format staple we're talking about here, and lead singles most often climb the charts fastest. I agree with you! This has the advantage of being the lead single. They've been gone for quite a while and radio is hungry for new material from their HAC Kings, lol. ;) I agree too that it might be fight between this and Over You (could M5's Wake Up Call be the third competitor?). I hope they both get to #1.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 18, 2007 0:28:58 GMT -5
I disagree. "Disease" was the first single off of "More than you think you are" but was the smallest of the first three singles. I still think this will peak at #4, which is where "Disease" peaked as well.
Matchbox Twenty are my favorite band, but I don't think this song has as much appeal as "Over You". Not sure if this will do as well as "Wake Up Call" will, but I sure hope so. :)
BTW, somebody told me in the "Little Wonders" thread that as long as Rob releases solo material, it won't be that big of a deal that Matchbox Twenty comes back. I don't really agree with that, however, because Rob's solo stuff is so boring compared to his Matchbox stuff.
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Post by blurple on Jul 18, 2007 0:42:11 GMT -5
^ Hmmm... I must be one of the few that really enjoyed Rob's solo album, LOL. But I think that and their MB20 stuff is very different, at least to me. I always thought that Rob did with STB what he can't do with their MB20 albums, LOL. So, with my theory, it's a big deal that MB20 is coming back. ;)
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 18, 2007 0:57:21 GMT -5
I hope you're right! Hahah.
Rob's solo album work produced my favorite song ever- "Ever the Same", but the first two singles have really burned on me after these two years, and "Streetcorner Symphony" and "Little Wonders" have also burned on me to an extent.
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 18, 2007 16:40:28 GMT -5
I was driving when I heard this, LOL. I almost got into an accident from excitement! I like the song although I don't think it's as strong as their other singles! It's so good hearing something new from them though. I can see myself loving the song after a few more listens. I have to agree. I wasn't all that impressed with it upon 1st listen, but maybe it'll get more favorable when it becomes a big radio hit. I agree. One of my MB20 friends emailed me the song and the interview, and I wasn't impressed in the least, and I've been an MB20 fan since..Long Day! I was hoping for some GREAT song, but it's a big let-down for a band who has been saying how much they've 'grown'. Musically and lyrically to me, that's not the case. The song sounds very jouvenile and repetitive. Someone PLEASE tell Thomas not to keep repeating the song title over and over and over again in every single song they have ever written. It gets pretty boring after awhile. It's almost like he couldn't find anything to write about so he threw something together really quickly. This isn't a song I would have hoped, would come from a band 11 years old, who have so much more potential and talent then this single is bringing out.
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Post by realnewlight on Jul 18, 2007 18:00:53 GMT -5
This song is dissapointing to me.
But of course it will do well on this format...its MB20.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 18, 2007 18:04:30 GMT -5
I have to agree. I wasn't all that impressed with it upon 1st listen, but maybe it'll get more favorable when it becomes a big radio hit. I agree. One of my MB20 friends emailed me the song and the interview, and I wasn't impressed in the least, and I've been an MB20 fan since..Long Day! I was hoping for some GREAT song, but it's a big let-down for a band who has been saying how much they've 'grown'. Musically and lyrically to me, that's not the case. The song sounds very jouvenile and repetitive. Someone PLEASE tell Thomas not to keep repeating the song title over and over and over again in every single song they have ever written. It gets pretty boring after awhile. It's almost like he couldn't find anything to write about so he threw something together really quickly. This isn't a song I would have hoped, would come from a band 11 years old, who have so much more potential and talent then this single is bringing out. OOUCH- that's pretty harsh :) Still haven't heard the song yet - But I'm wondering if the "juvenile and repetitive" stuff that you're talking about is to get M20 back in with the CHR/Pop crowd (I. E. similar to "Lonely No More") - this song's actually getting pretty positive reactions in the CHR/Pop panel
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 18, 2007 21:00:59 GMT -5
It's top 50. :) 50 MATCHBOX TWENTY How Far We've Come 2007 Melisma/Atlantic 168 0 168 1.635 I wonder how high this will be by Sunday- could see one of the biggest debuts of the year on Hot AC. I agree. One of my MB20 friends emailed me the song and the interview, and I wasn't impressed in the least, and I've been an MB20 fan since..Long Day! I was hoping for some GREAT song, but it's a big let-down for a band who has been saying how much they've 'grown'. Musically and lyrically to me, that's not the case. The song sounds very jouvenile and repetitive. Someone PLEASE tell Thomas not to keep repeating the song title over and over and over again in every single song they have ever written. It gets pretty boring after awhile. It's almost like he couldn't find anything to write about so he threw something together really quickly. This isn't a song I would have hoped, would come from a band 11 years old, who have so much more potential and talent then this single is bringing out. OOUCH- that's pretty harsh :) Still haven't heard the song yet - But I'm wondering if the "juvenile and repetitive" stuff that you're talking about is to get M20 back in with the CHR/Pop crowd (I. E. similar to "Lonely No More") - this song's actually getting pretty positive reactions in the CHR/Pop panel I agree with you on that. A song with simple lyrics will always appeal more to a pop crowd that one with deep or confusing ones (unless it's hard-to-follow hip hop stuff lol).
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Post by arebomb on Jul 19, 2007 9:53:37 GMT -5
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As a long time hardcore matchbox twenty fan, I can't tell you how much that quote pisses me off. I don't know anything about why matchbox twenty removed Adam Gaynor from their lineup, but damn, what a not-so-subtle dig at Adam. I met him and Rob after a concert on their last tour and they were both really nice guys. Adam seemed like he was an awesome guy and really appreciated the opportunity he had to be in such a popular band. Is there really a need for Rob to kick a man's skills like this?
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Post by arebomb on Jul 19, 2007 9:55:50 GMT -5
Additionally, on first listen, I wasn't all that impressed by this song -- but after a while, like almost everything Rob Thomas does -- I am really digging the vibe of this song. After listening to a lot of Paul Doucette's solo stuff, I wonder if he has a co-writing credit on this song. Wouldn't that be a first for a matchbox twenty single (as in, another member of MB20 helped write the song)?
I think this song will do great on Hot AC, but won't be much of a performer on pop.
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Post by roamer on Jul 19, 2007 10:39:59 GMT -5
This song was a group effort and all of them will share a writing credit for it, which is supposed to be the case for all of the new songs.
I think repeating the chorus over and over at the end of a song is a cop out, by any artist. I hope that this song is the exception and not the rule for what the new songs will sound like. I like HFWC more on each listen, but it's still not one of their best efforts.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 19, 2007 12:30:57 GMT -5
Additionally, on first listen, I wasn't all that impressed by this song -- but after a while, like almost everything Rob Thomas does -- I am really digging the vibe of this song. After listening to a lot of Paul Doucette's solo stuff, I wonder if he has a co-writing credit on this song. Wouldn't that be a first for a matchbox twenty single (as in, another member of MB20 helped write the song)? I think this song will do great on Hot AC, but won't be much of a performer on pop. A lot of people on the pop panel are predicting this will go Top 20 (on CHR/pop) - still haven't heard it though
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 19, 2007 21:04:30 GMT -5
This sounds like matchbox twenty singing a Fall Out Boy song without the wit, but also without the super-obvious crashingly loud instrumentation.
I've listened to it twice now, and I'm not warming to it. It sounds affected to me, and the lyrics are awkward and repetitive. I'm not in love with Thomas' vocal, either -- his phrasing has always sounded too stiff to me, and this song doesn't sound natural for him. I do appreciate that Steve Lillywhite didn't make the obvious power pop production choices here (for example, layering his voice, using lots of clangy instruments, etc.). I know that MB20 is a format artist on Hot AC, so on the strength of that I assume this will make the top-10. I don't think it will hit #1, though.
Then again, I thought "Little Wonders" was going to go #1 on Hot AC and be a multi-month #1 on AC, so what do I know? ;)
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 19, 2007 21:21:28 GMT -5
This sounds like matchbox twenty singing a Fall Out Boy song without the wit, but also without the super-obvious crashingly loud instrumentation. I've listened to it twice now, and I'm not warning to it. It sounds affected to me, and the lyrics are awkward and repetitive. I'm not in love with Thomas' vocal, either -- his phrasing has always sounded too stiff to me, and this song doesn't sound natural for him. I do appreciate that Steve Lillywhite didn't make the obvious power pop production choices here (for example, layering his voice, using lots of clangy instruments, etc.). I know that MB20 is a format artist on Hot AC, so on the strength of that I assume this will make the top-10. I don't think it will hit #1, though. Then again, I thought "Little Wonders" was going to go #1 on Hot AC and be a multi-month #1 on AC, so what do I know? ;) I think the problem with this track is that it just comes off as sounding forced, and that could certainly be explained by the band mentioning that they were in a timed situation to put this track together, in contrast with many of their other studio sessions. Thus, the creative process was suppressed by industry pressure, and you end up getting what's arguably a half-baked product here. In my opinion, this lead single is still better than "Disease", but inferior to "Long Day" and "Bent" and ultimately will be a forgettable release of theirs I think. I'm hoping Lilywhite offered the band plenty of time on their other five new recordings; otherwise "Exile On Mainstream" may not be worth the fifteen bucks to a considerable number of core fans. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Chase on Jul 19, 2007 21:41:47 GMT -5
I wonder if the industry pressure was another reason the band opted to make a best-of rather than a half-baked full release. If that's the case, then I'll gladly wait another two years for a new record.
This song is in the 160s at Alternative, thanks to the station in Chicago. So MB20 is officially not dead at that format, haha.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 19, 2007 22:12:41 GMT -5
^ Nice to hear that about Alternative! :)
It should be Top 40 on Hot AC by tomorrow. I think this would be thier 13th top 40 as a band (I think "Downfall" peaked at #27 on Billboard). The Goo Goo Dolls recently scored thier 13th hit as well.
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Post by JP on Jul 20, 2007 19:09:09 GMT -5
Wow, Matchbox Twenty has released a song with FOUR words in the title!
Anyway, I'm disappointed in them for releasing this song.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Jul 20, 2007 19:28:49 GMT -5
I FINALLY got an mp3 of this song... I'll be listening to it later tonight, but based on the reception it's been getting, I'm not sure if I should be looking forward to it or not.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 20, 2007 19:38:38 GMT -5
Top 40 already :)
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Jul 20, 2007 20:41:11 GMT -5
You know, I'm not too impressed with hardly ANY new song on first listen. So I like to hold off making judgment until I've heard it a few times. This song is growing on me big time. I find myself humming it all day long. I don't like the ending at all, but other than that I'm happy with it. My Hot AC station hasn't started playing it yet. Can't wait for that first time on the radio.
What is the official adds date for this single?
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 21, 2007 8:39:43 GMT -5
I'm hoping Lilywhite offered the band plenty of time on their other five new recordings; otherwise "Exile On Mainstream" may not be worth the fifteen bucks to a considerable number of core fans. Yea....I'm thinking if/when I purchase this album, it won't be $15, as I plan to get it from half.com, because with 6 songs I already have on a few albums and this new track that sucks, why pay $15?
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Post by Chase on Jul 21, 2007 14:15:25 GMT -5
I'm looking for the chart history for all of MB20's previous singles and where each one peaked. Which site do you all recommend? Do R&R and Billboard offer data on all songs that have charted? Thanks in advance.
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Post by audiogarden on Jul 21, 2007 15:08:01 GMT -5
Wow! SMASH!!!!! :o
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 21, 2007 20:21:52 GMT -5
I'm looking for the chart history for all of MB20's previous singles and where each one peaked. Which site do you all recommend? Do R&R and Billboard offer data on all songs that have charted? Thanks in advance. I have it memorized ...On Hot AC... For further reference, I use popradiotop20.com/Push- #6 3 AM- #1 for 11 weeksReal World- #3 Back 2 Good- #4 Bent- #1 for 13 weeksIf You're Gone- #1 for 12 weeksMad Season- #6 Last Beautiful Girl- #17 Disease- #4 Unwell- #1 for 20 weeks (nonconsecutive) Bright Lights- #2 I think "Downfall" peaked at #27. Not positive though.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Jul 21, 2007 22:05:27 GMT -5
I think it's funny that Rob asks us to "come on over, down to the corner" in Streetcorner Symphony, but in this song he says "there's no one on the corner and there's no one at home".
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Post by audiogarden on Jul 22, 2007 7:02:04 GMT -5
From Mediabase Hot A/C rolling chart
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 22, 2007 9:52:37 GMT -5
I'm looking for the chart history for all of MB20's previous singles and where each one peaked. Which site do you all recommend? Do R&R and Billboard offer data on all songs that have charted? Thanks in advance. I have it memorized ...On Hot AC... For further reference, I use popradiotop20.com/Push- #6 3 AM- #1 for 11 weeksReal World- #3 Back 2 Good- #4 Bent- #1 for 13 weeksIf You're Gone- #1 for 12 weeksMad Season- #6 Last Beautiful Girl- #17 Disease- #4 Unwell- #1 for 20 weeks (nonconsecutive) Bright Lights- #2 I think "Downfall" peaked at #27. Not positive though. On CHR/HAC Combo chart, "Push" hit #2 (I think back then it was still too aggressive for many Hot AC's)
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