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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 27, 2007 8:36:47 GMT -5
You're prob. right about "Unwell" - "Bent" and "If You're Gone" are pretty deep relationship songs, though - still think it must be weird to hear your spouse sing these songs unless you guys are going through tensions, troubles, etc. - they also might have been written before '99 though Anyhow (different note) - did you guys ever think you'd see a Matchbox 20 song that's getting much better "reviews" on the CHR/Pop panel than on the Hot AC panel??? (I think every post on CHR/Pop has been "This is one of the best songs I ever heard!" while its getting "mixed reviews" on this panel - WEIRD!! The CHR/Pop panel isn't accustomed to hearing good songs these days On that note, where can one access these panel discussions? Thanks! When you log on, just click on "CHR/POP" instead of "HOT AC/TRIPLE A" and you can join their discussions - just be careful not to say anything bad about Kelly Clarkson, Avril, Pink, or Amy Winehouse or they'll start calling you names:)
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Post by seattle on Jul 27, 2007 12:52:09 GMT -5
I'm hoping Lilywhite offered the band plenty of time on their other five new recordings; otherwise "Exile On Mainstream" may not be worth the fifteen bucks to a considerable number of core fans. Yea....I'm thinking if/when I purchase this album, it won't be $15, as I plan to get it from half.com, because with 6 songs I already have on a few albums and this new track that sucks, why pay $15? Just wanted to re-iterate, that the new album will consist of 6 brand new songs and the 11 singles previously released from their other albums. So you may want to reconsider.... refer to the original post of this thread ~ here's an excerpt from that recent article: "Thomas tells Billboard.com that "Exile on Mainstream," due Oct. 2 via Atlantic, could include as many as six new cuts produced by Steve Lillywhite, plus 11 prior hits. Among the new tunes are the upbeat first single "How Far We've Come," "I'll Believe You When..." ("It's like our Pretenders song," he says of the latter), the '50s-leaning "Can't Let You Go" and "These Hard Times." "This is different than any record we've made, and different than my solo record," says Thomas, who had never collaborated on the songwriting with his bandmates. "We got together for a week at my house and we all had song ideas, but they didn't sound like what we wanted to play together. Between that vibe and working with Steve, it's a much more raw, energetic, live-sounding record than we've done in the past." www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003605892also note: Rolling Stone has a short article about "Exile" on page 24 of the new issue with GNR on the cover. Matchbox Twenty Pop kings learn to rock on new tracks with U2’s producer. Album Exile on Mainstream Due Out October 2nd “You sang your socks off last night,” says veteran producer Steve Lillywhite, greeting frontman Rob Thomas at NGR Studios in L.A., where Matchbox Twenty are finishing their first collection of new songs in five years. Lillywhite-best known for his work with U2-cues up the previous night’s performance of “If I Fall,” which opens with explosive guitars reminiscent of the Who. The song is one of six new tracks recorded for Matchbox’s new hits collection, Exile on Mainstream, and it represents a new sound: louder, noisier and minus the studio polish that has kept their music on the pop airwaves since their 1996 debut, Yourself or Someone Like You. “For our entire career we’ve been trying to capture on record how we sound live,” says bassist Brian “Pookie” Yale, who is strumming a ukulele. “Rockin”, raw and with all this energy.” Adds Thomas, “It’s like saying goodbye to an old sensibility, saying goodbye to an old way of doing things.” -Steve Appleford Long Live Matchbox!!
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Post by Chase on Jul 27, 2007 16:12:23 GMT -5
The CHR/Pop panel isn't accustomed to hearing good songs these days On that note, where can one access these panel discussions? Thanks! When you log on, just click on "CHR/POP" instead of "HOT AC/TRIPLE A" and you can join their discussions - just be careful not to say anything bad about Kelly Clarkson, Avril, Pink, or Amy Winehouse or they'll start calling you names:) I have nothing bad to say about Amy Winehouse, but I make no promises about the other three. Actually, when I kept hearing these "panels" mentioned, I thought there was a dark smoky room that existed somewhere where a select few official people from a given format sat around and talked about music. I had no idea these boards were considered to be the panel! Thanks for the info!
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 27, 2007 16:55:13 GMT -5
It's top 20 already. 39 20 MATCHBOX TWENTY How Far We've Come 2007 Melisma/Atlantic 1020 367 653 5.370
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Post by Chase on Jul 30, 2007 21:49:36 GMT -5
This is up to #17 at Hot AC! Glad to see Triple A is also giving this a chance!
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Post by blurple on Aug 1, 2007 10:29:48 GMT -5
BOOKED: Matchbox 20 - Ramon and Pedro, directors Rob Thomas and Matchbox Twenty set to return with this first video off their first album in five years, Exile On Mainstream.
artist: Matchbox Twenty song: "How Far We've Come" label: Atlantic director(s): Roman and Pedro production co: Partizan
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Post by Chase on Aug 1, 2007 11:46:50 GMT -5
It's already up to #13. I can't see this NOT going #1. I'm just TO'd I haven't heard it on the radio yet. WNNK here in Harrisburg is kind of a Hot AC, but they're all over the place with their golds.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Aug 1, 2007 12:28:48 GMT -5
Just started playing on my Hot AC station in Cleveland. Heard it Monday for the first time as I was crusing through the rolling hills of rural Ohio on a day off. Cranked that baby! :)
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 1, 2007 13:23:49 GMT -5
Only thing bout this song is - I'm starting to get sick of it already and I don't think that's ever happened to me w/ a M20 song except maybe "Disease" - I agree w/ whoever said that RT repeats the title of the song way too much
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Post by crazyfun1 on Aug 1, 2007 14:50:01 GMT -5
Only thing bout this song is - I'm starting to get sick of it already and I don't think that's ever happened to me w/ a M20 song except maybe "Disease" - I agree w/ whoever said that RT repeats the title of the song way too much That was me. I have heard every song MB20 has done since 1996. Rob's downfall(no pun intended) is OVER repeating song titles throughout the song. We can get the hint if it's repeated 2x, but over and over again, is obsessive and un-needed. Soemtimes songwritters don't realiize how repetitive they really are, unfortunately.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 2, 2007 11:40:09 GMT -5
Love the title of the album! :)
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 2, 2007 12:05:25 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but try singing "Thanks For The Memories" by Fall Out Boy over the chorus to this song - I almost wonder if someone told Rob Thomas to listen to FOB and write a song in their style so Matchbox could make a big CHR "comeback"
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Post by Pipa on Aug 2, 2007 13:52:56 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but try singing "Thanks For The Memories" by Fall Out Boy over the chorus to this song - I almost wonder if someone told Rob Thomas to listen to FOB and write a song in their style so Matchbox could make a big CHR "comeback" Then why do I like this one way more than "Thanks for the Memories"?
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 2, 2007 16:23:39 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but try singing "Thanks For The Memories" by Fall Out Boy over the chorus to this song - I almost wonder if someone told Rob Thomas to listen to FOB and write a song in their style so Matchbox could make a big CHR "comeback" Then why do I like this one way more than "Thanks for the Memories"? Maybe cause Rob Thomas can sing way better than the guy from Fall Out Boy IMO and the instrumentation is better
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Post by Pipa on Aug 2, 2007 16:55:00 GMT -5
^ Yeah, that sounds about right. The only part of the song I can stand is the breakdown around the two-minute mark as the instruments are quieter and it's the only part where the chorus stands out.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Aug 4, 2007 9:05:46 GMT -5
How Far We've Come MATCHBOX TWENTY Producer(s): Steve Lillywhite Label: Atlantic It's been three years since we last heard from Matchbox Twenty as lead singer Rob Thomas has indulged a can't-stop solo career. But new "How Far We've Come," which launched at No. 29 at adult top 40, makes clear that radio has love to give. The song is one of six the band recorded to accompany upcoming greatest-hits package "Exile on Mainstream," due in October. From the uptempo opening drumbeat, it's evident this isn't the late-night-lamenting Matchbox Twenty we heard on "3 A.M." Rather, the group proves how far it's come with stuttering high-hat rhythms and shout-along harmonies more reminiscent of Fall Out Boy than late-'90s alt-rock. After 11 years, a step forward for an act that maintains signature status at radio, while so many others have fallen into obscurity.—Taylor Grimes Great review! Yay! www.billboard.com/bbcom/content_display/reviews/...288e7a656bb075a4e1bf
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Post by Kid Pulse on Aug 4, 2007 19:02:43 GMT -5
Looked at mediabase for the first time in over a week and I LOVE WHAT I SEE :) Still think The Goo Goo Dolls song is way better than this, but I ain't complaining!! 20 11 MATCHBOX TWENTY How Far We've Come 2007 Melisma/Atlantic 1706 1114 592 8.067
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Post by Kai on Aug 5, 2007 9:19:52 GMT -5
Already wrote about this over at CHR/Pop but wanted to put my two cents in for this great song. After an overdose of Daughtry, Fergie (gag) and Nickelback, this frigging song is a much needed breath of fresh air. It must be nice to be Rob Thomas and have so many songs in rotation on radio - and each is totally different than the other. The man's a friggin' genius.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Aug 5, 2007 11:32:57 GMT -5
I'm still curious as to the meaning of the "let's see how far we've come" line. I'm thinking it means "let's see what we're made of as a country". I know thru interviews that both Rob & Paul are relatively liberal in their political thinking. So they can't be very happy with the state of our country (actually who CAN be???). But when I first heard the title of this song I thought that it meant how far they've come as a band, and I kind of cringed. Same with the "More than you think you are" title of their last album and the "Exile on Mainstream" title for this next one. Their tendency toward low self esteem and self-deprecation sometimes makes reviewers not take them as seriously as they should, IMO.
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Post by Kai on Aug 5, 2007 13:25:20 GMT -5
I'm still curious as to the meaning of the "let's see how far we've come" line. I'm thinking it means "let's see what we're made of as a country". I know thru interviews that both Rob & Paul are relatively liberal in their political thinking. So they can't be very happy with the state of our country (actually who CAN be???). But when I first heard the title of this song I thought that it meant how far they've come as a band, and I kind of cringed. Same with the "More than you think you are" title of their last album and the "Exile on Mainstream" title for this next one. Their tendency toward low self esteem and self-deprecation sometimes makes reviewers not take them as seriously as they should, IMO. I don't think the lyric, or the song, had anything to do with the band, except maybe as a odd coincidence, seeing how this single is coming out with a greatest hits CD. Personally it always reminds me of 9/11 and the singer's world, as far as he can tell, is falling down around him. Say your goodbyes if you've got someone to say them to, right? The line about ten o'clock especially makes me think it's 9/11 since that is a little after the time the first plane struck. The day started off like any other and suddenly the world is burning to the ground and he can't stop himself from crying and wonders where the hell he's running to and thinks, is this it? Who am I, who are we as a people? What will anyone remember about me, about us? Are we going to just pretend this isn't happening and, maybe even more important, are we going to just politically ignore the mistakes that got us here in the first place? All in all, it can be taken as someone dealing with a personal tragedy or a global one. I think the lyrics are a lot deeper than people realize given the pounding tempo of the song. The more I hear it the more I like it.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Aug 7, 2007 19:48:17 GMT -5
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Post by Kid Pulse on Aug 12, 2007 17:08:54 GMT -5
Now that I'm over my favorite band being back, I don't really like this song that much.
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Post by Chase on Aug 12, 2007 19:07:34 GMT -5
I finally heard it on the radio, and I must admit that there's something about the vocal mix that irks me. I think perhaps the vocal harmony in the pre-chorus and chorus pushes forward a touch too much for my liking. I'm hoping this isn't the best song that EOM has to offer.
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Post by crazyfun1 on Aug 12, 2007 20:13:32 GMT -5
I think it's funny, that everyone was balling me out because I said I didn't like the song, though MB20 is one of my favorite bands of all-time. Now it appears that 2 other people above me also dislike this song. MB20 has always been great in my eyes, but this song isn't really showing their true talents at all. It's lacking a lot of things.
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 13, 2007 10:44:36 GMT -5
I finally heard it on the radio, and I must admit that there's something about the vocal mix that irks me. I think perhaps the vocal harmony in the pre-chorus and chorus pushes forward a touch too much for my liking. I'm hoping this isn't the best song that EOM has to offer. I think that "vocals pushing forward" ur talking about is the Fall Out Boy/Panic At The Disco style they're trying for Also, it's really significant IMO that RT doesn't use any reverb on his vocals which is HUGE contrast to "Little Wonders" which had all these effects on his voice
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Post by Kai on Aug 13, 2007 10:45:43 GMT -5
I think it's funny, that everyone was balling me out because I said I didn't like the song, though MB20 is one of my favorite bands of all-time. Now it appears that 2 other people above me also dislike this song. MB20 has always been great in my eyes, but this song isn't really showing their true talents at all. It's lacking a lot of things. Why are you still posting about your dislike for this song then? Go listen to something else. We get it - you don't like it. Music is subjective. Maybe you will like another one, until then... move on. Meanwhile it enters the top 40 at CHR/Pop at #38 with a bullet on the daily chart. Good summation of the song from podsanity: Song of the Week - August 10th Sunday August 12th 2007, 11:47 pm Filed under: Rob Thomas, Matchbox 20, Song of the Week, Music This was one of the easiest selections in some time. Some weeks have no clear best new song, others have a couple to chose from. This week there was only one new song that jumped out at me and it’s a solid song of the week. Matchbox 20’s new single ‘How Far We’ve Come’ from their upcoming album ‘Exile on Mainstream’ which is not due out until October. When held up against a wide array of tepid releases this Summer, How Far We’ve Come stands out for it energy and the strength of Rob Thomas’ vocals. The album also marks the first new album for the group in 5 years, time spent largely on solo projects most notably Thomas’ successful debut solo album ‘Something to Be’ which topped the charts in 2005. The group claims this album is being written as a collective effort, rather than being principally composed by Thomas as in the past. The influence of Steve Lillywhite, taking his first turn as producer for the group can be sensed in the intensity of the first single which is reminiscent of Lillywhite projects U2 and Talking Heads. podsanity.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/song-of-the-week-august-10th/
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Post by Kai on Aug 13, 2007 10:50:14 GMT -5
[/quote]I think that "vocals pushing forward" ur talking about is the Fall Out Boy/Panic At The Disco style they're trying for. [/quote]
I don't think they are "trying" for anything. Neither of those bands invented a fast-paced groove tinged sound. But matchbox sure excels at it.
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 13, 2007 10:59:45 GMT -5
I think that "vocals pushing forward" ur talking about is the Fall Out Boy/Panic At The Disco style they're trying for. [/quote] I don't think they are "trying" for anything. Neither of those bands invented a fast-paced groove tinged sound. But matchbox sure excels at it.[/quote] The VOCAL STYLE on this song IMO is similar to FOB and PATD and it's not a vocal style RT has ever used before - it's still mixed with M20's own unique fast-paced acoustic tingy guitar sound (think that's what you mean or said :)) IMO
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Post by Kid Pulse on Aug 13, 2007 20:02:25 GMT -5
I think it's funny, that everyone was balling me out because I said I didn't like the song, though MB20 is one of my favorite bands of all-time. Now it appears that 2 other people above me also dislike this song. MB20 has always been great in my eyes, but this song isn't really showing their true talents at all. It's lacking a lot of things. I don't understand what the big deal is with you posting your comments. I agree with everything you said.
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