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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 12, 2007 12:45:33 GMT -5
It was only #3 for two days :(
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 12, 2007 15:45:39 GMT -5
Still think "Broken" is gonna be a bigger hit for Lifehouse than "First Time"
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 12, 2007 23:28:55 GMT -5
Still think "Broken" is gonna be a bigger hit for Lifehouse than "First Time" I thought "Blind" was going to be a huge hit for them but that wasn't the case. "Broken" isn't catchy enough to be #1 and the only good part is towards the end when he starts yelling somewhat. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 13, 2007 14:42:24 GMT -5
Still think "Broken" is gonna be a bigger hit for Lifehouse than "First Time" I thought "Blind" was going to be a huge hit for them but that wasn't the case. "Broken" isn't catchy enough to be #1 and the only good part is towards the end when he starts yelling somewhat. I think "Broken" is much more relatable (sp?) to Hot AC and Pop listeners than "Blind" was, though, esp. when he sings "In the pain there is healing" or something like that - anyway, I think "Broken" is actually really deep, and gets better with every play "Blind" had a really whiny chorus to it - and had a convoluted (sp?) main idea IMO As far as yelling, "You And Me" (according to CHR/Hot AC combo) was the biggest hit of their career, and their wasn't any yelling in it - it's also now (I hear) the most popular wedding song in the country :) |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 13, 2007 20:23:26 GMT -5
I thought "Blind" was going to be a huge hit for them but that wasn't the case. "Broken" isn't catchy enough to be #1 and the only good part is towards the end when he starts yelling somewhat. I think "Broken" is much more relatable (sp?) to Hot AC and Pop listeners than "Blind" was, though, esp. when he sings "In the pain there is healing" or something like that - anyway, I think "Broken" is actually really deep, and gets better with every play "Blind" had a really whiny chorus to it - and had a convoluted (sp?) main idea IMO As far as yelling, "You And Me" (according to CHR/Hot AC combo) was the biggest hit of their career, and their wasn't any yelling in it - it's also now (I hear) the most popular wedding song in the country :) Eh, I dunno about "You And Me" being their biggest hit. "Hanging By A Moment" was probably a bit bigger, although not by much. YAM just lasted way longer, whereas HBAM was the most played song of the year. I still don;t know why "You And Me" was such a huge hit because I think it was pretty boring. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 14, 2007 9:46:44 GMT -5
I think "Broken" is much more relatable (sp?) to Hot AC and Pop listeners than "Blind" was, though, esp. when he sings "In the pain there is healing" or something like that - anyway, I think "Broken" is actually really deep, and gets better with every play "Blind" had a really whiny chorus to it - and had a convoluted (sp?) main idea IMO As far as yelling, "You And Me" (according to CHR/Hot AC combo) was the biggest hit of their career, and their wasn't any yelling in it - it's also now (I hear) the most popular wedding song in the country :) Eh, I dunno about "You And Me" being their biggest hit. "Hanging By A Moment" was probably a bit bigger, although not by much. YAM just lasted way longer, whereas HBAM was the most played song of the year. I still don;t know why "You And Me" was such a huge hit because I think it was pretty boring. Whoops - sorry "Hanging By A Moment" was bigger (according to CHR/HAC combo chart anyway - those are only stats I have:) Using reverse point system, "Hanging By A Moment" = 1817 points - #1 song of 2001 "You And Me" = 1648 points - #1 song of 2005 BTW "You And Me" is one of my favorite songs of all time, but this shouldn't bias the stats :) |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 14, 2007 13:05:59 GMT -5
Eh, I dunno about "You And Me" being their biggest hit. "Hanging By A Moment" was probably a bit bigger, although not by much. YAM just lasted way longer, whereas HBAM was the most played song of the year. I still don;t know why "You And Me" was such a huge hit because I think it was pretty boring. Whoops - sorry "Hanging By A Moment" was bigger (according to CHR/HAC combo chart anyway - those are only stats I have:) Using reverse point system, "Hanging By A Moment" = 1817 points - #1 song of 2001 "You And Me" = 1648 points - #1 song of 2005 BTW "You And Me" is one of my favorite songs of all time, but this shouldn't bias the stats :) LOL it's okay they're my favorite band  |
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 14, 2007 14:36:43 GMT -5
Using the points system, here's which was bigger. "Hanging By a Moment" earned 469 points on the pop chart, making it the #1 pop song of 2001. It had 892 points on the Hot AC chart and was the 3rd biggest song there of 2001. "You and Me" had 284 points on the pop chart and was the 8th biggest song of 2005 on that format. On Hot AC, it had a huge 958 points, and was the biggest song of 2005. I got this info from here= popradiotop20.com/Based on that, "You and Me" is thier biggest hit on Hot AC, but "Hanging by a Moment" was thier biggest hit on the pop chart, and as atlantaboy said, overall. |
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Jul 14, 2007 15:02:01 GMT -5
Using the inverse point system for the entire chart, on HAC, "You and Me" had 2370 points, making it the 2nd biggest song since the HAC chart began in 1994. "Hanging by a Moment" had 2216 points. www.geocities.com/at40fantoo/at20/top100hac.html |
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 14, 2007 15:04:35 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that!! Wow they have two of the 5 biggest hits on the format!! That's impressive!
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 14, 2007 15:44:57 GMT -5
And on the CHR/HAC combo, they have the biggest hits of both 2001 and 2005!!:)
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 14, 2007 16:28:17 GMT -5
Using the points system, here's which was bigger. "Hanging By a Moment" earned 469 points on the pop chart, making it the #1 pop song of 2001. It had 892 points on the Hot AC chart and was the 3rd biggest song there of 2001. "You and Me" had 284 points on the pop chart and was the 8th biggest song of 2005 on that format. On Hot AC, it had a huge 958 points, and was the biggest song of 2005. I got this info from here= popradiotop20.com/Based on that, "You and Me" is thier biggest hit on Hot AC, but "Hanging by a Moment" was thier biggest hit on the pop chart, and as atlantaboy said, overall. I was wondering where you guys were coming up with those points. Thanks haha |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 14, 2007 16:28:58 GMT -5
Using the inverse point system for the entire chart, on HAC, "You and Me" had 2370 points, making it the 2nd biggest song since the HAC chart began in 1994. "Hanging by a Moment" had 2216 points. www.geocities.com/at40fantoo/at20/top100hac.htmlWhat was first? I'm guessing "Smooth" by Santana/Rob Thomas. |
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Post by shocker on Jul 14, 2007 18:19:11 GMT -5
Using the inverse point system for the entire chart, on HAC, "You and Me" had 2370 points, making it the 2nd biggest song since the HAC chart began in 1994. "Hanging by a Moment" had 2216 points. www.geocities.com/at40fantoo/at20/top100hac.htmlWhat was first? I'm guessing "Smooth" by Santana/Rob Thomas. Yes, it was "Smooth" - 25 weeks at #1, and 72 weeks on the chart. That's Billboard, by the way, not R&R. Top 20 Adult Top 40 hits since the chart began in 1996 - 1. "Smooth" - Santana f/Rob Thomas, 1999-'00 2. "Wherever You Will Go" - Calling, 2001-'02 3. "Unwell" - Matchbox Twenty, 2003 4. "Photograph" - Nickelback, 2005-'06 5. "Iris" - Goo Goo Dolls, 1998 6. "Complicated" - Avril Lavigne, 2002 7. "Don't Speak" - No Doubt, 1996-'97 8. "Drops of Jupiter (Tell Me)" - Train, 2001 9. "Everything You Want" - Vertical Horizon, 2000 10. "Torn" - Natalie Imbruglia, 1998 11. "Here Without You" - 3 Doors Down, 2003-'04 12. "She Will Be Loved" - Maroon5, 2004 13. "This Love" - Maroon5, 2004 14. "If You're Gone" - Matchbox Twenty, 2000-'01 15. "Bent" - Matchbox Twenty, 2000 16. "The Game Of Love" - Santana f/Michelle Branch, 2002-'03 17. "Bad Day" - Daniel Powter, 2006 18. "Because You Loved Me" - Celine Dion, 1996 19. "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" - Green Day, 2005 20. "3AM" - Matchbox 20, 1998 The source is Joel Whitburn's Top Adult Songs 1961-2006 |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 15, 2007 0:34:38 GMT -5
What was first? I'm guessing "Smooth" by Santana/Rob Thomas. Yes, it was "Smooth" - 25 weeks at #1, and 72 weeks on the chart. That's Billboard, by the way, not R&R. Top 20 Adult Top 40 hits since the chart began in 1996 - 1. "Smooth" - Santana f/Rob Thomas, 1999-'00 2. "Wherever You Will Go" - Calling, 2001-'02 3. "Unwell" - Matchbox Twenty, 2003 4. "Photograph" - Nickelback, 2005-'06 5. "Iris" - Goo Goo Dolls, 1998 6. "Complicated" - Avril Lavigne, 2002 7. "Don't Speak" - No Doubt, 1996-'97 8. "Drops of Jupiter (Tell Me)" - Train, 2001 9. "Everything You Want" - Vertical Horizon, 2000 10. "Torn" - Natalie Imbruglia, 1998 11. "Here Without You" - 3 Doors Down, 2003-'04 12. "She Will Be Loved" - Maroon5, 2004 13. "This Love" - Maroon5, 2004 14. "If You're Gone" - Matchbox Twenty, 2000-'01 15. "Bent" - Matchbox Twenty, 2000 16. "The Game Of Love" - Santana f/Michelle Branch, 2002-'03 17. "Bad Day" - Daniel Powter, 2006 18. "Because You Loved Me" - Celine Dion, 1996 19. "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" - Green Day, 2005 20. "3AM" - Matchbox 20, 1998 The source is Joel Whitburn's Top Adult Songs 1961-2006Why aren't either of the Lifehouse hits on there? |
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Post by shocker on Jul 15, 2007 1:25:50 GMT -5
Those rankings are based on the number of weeks each hit spent at #1 as the primary calculation.
"Hanging By a Moment" would have been on that list if the calculation was weighted heavier on the total number of weeks on the chart, but since that song spent a rather meager 5 weeks at #1, it didn't make this list. "You and Me" spent 9 weeks at the summit, and ranked at #26 on the list of top Hot AC hits of all time.
Joel Whitburn is the source.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 15, 2007 1:52:04 GMT -5
Ohhh that makes sense then. I thought it was total chart time for some reason.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 15, 2007 8:25:20 GMT -5
This song sounds like most of their others. They are all starting to run together for me. I also don't think that this song is as strong as some of their previous hits. I'm surprised HotAC has supported it but then good for them. Nice guys even though I don't think they are that great of a band.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 15, 2007 8:32:43 GMT -5
Those rankings are based on the number of weeks each hit spent at #1 as the primary calculation. IMO that's not a fair way to calculate song success b/c weeks at No. 1 depends on how much competition they have at the time they peak |
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 15, 2007 13:10:13 GMT -5
Yeah, and "Over my Head" by The Fray was the #1 song of the year in 2006 but only made it to #3.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 17, 2007 22:41:10 GMT -5
Speaking of "Over my Head", I think this song might end up like that one did. Rise, peak, fall, and then rise to an even higher peak because of a push from pop radio (although it probably will go top 10 on pop, and not top 5 like "Over my Head" did.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 18, 2007 18:16:14 GMT -5
Speaking of "Over my Head", I think this song might end up like that one did. Rise, peak, fall, and then rise to an even higher peak because of a push from pop radio (although it probably will go top 10 on pop, and not top 5 like "Over my Head" did. Only problem is IMO there's too many Pop stations in markets that don't like rock (unless its teen rock bands or a rock ballad) - I think there's lots of CHR/Pop stations that'll leave "First Time" for their Hot AC counterpart (sp?) to play Not sure "First Time" appeals to teens like "Over My Head (Cable Car)" did |
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 18, 2007 20:38:32 GMT -5
^ That's a good point, and I guess "You and Me" also had more appeal than this.
Very small increase now.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 22, 2007 21:59:06 GMT -5
It's losing steam already :(
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 23, 2007 8:36:04 GMT -5
It's losing steam already :( Huge increases on CHR/Pop though!! |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 23, 2007 11:10:35 GMT -5
It's losing steam already :( Huge increases on CHR/Pop though!! Yeah, that's awesome. I hope it helps it here too haha |
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Post by MinusName on Jul 23, 2007 11:37:35 GMT -5
Daughtry and Maroon 5 need to start losing steam, not Lifehouse!! And I won't even start on the most overrated song of the year, "Hey There Delilah." It looks like "First Time" will drop to #5 this week with Fergie about ready to overtake it.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jul 23, 2007 13:07:39 GMT -5
Daughtry and Maroon 5 need to start losing steam, not Lifehouse!! And I won't even start on the most overrated song of the year, "Hey There Delilah." It looks like "First Time" will drop to #5 this week with Fergie about ready to overtake it. Dude, I totally agree with you on "Hey There Delilah" cause that song blows. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 15, 2007 8:49:59 GMT -5
Up to #19 on CHR!!!
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Aug 15, 2007 11:31:34 GMT -5
Nice! It's finally picking up there.
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