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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 6, 2010 15:39:24 GMT -5
[blue] 04/04/10 [/blue] #1: "Need You Now" holds at the #1 spot for a third week. Oldest Song:"Hey, Soul Sister" with 33 weeks. Oldest Song below #15: Cowboy Casanova" with 20 weeks Possibly Going to Recurrent: "Someday" and "If You Only Knew" will go when they fall below #15 or exceed 30 weeks. Going to Recurrent "Cowboy Casanova" will go next week. Biggest Mover: "This Afternoon" jumps 5 notches to #24 for the week's biggest move. This is the second week in a row the song's been the biggest mover. Debuts: Newcomer Angel Taylor has the highest debut of the week at #37 with "Like You Do". Rihanna scores her 10th hit on Hot AC at #39 with "Rude Boy". Newcomer to Hot AC Taio Cruz enters at #40 with "Break Your Heart". The song also marks Ludacris' first time on HAC. Exiting the Survey: "Two Is Better than One", 20 weeks, to recurrent "Sexy Chick", 10 weeks "When I Look at You", 1 week Other Notes: "Live Like We're Dying" inches up to #3. Daughtry rebounds to a new peak of #4 with "Life After You". The Script move to #6 in their 29th week on the chart. No songs enter/exit the top 10 again this week. "Whataya Want from Me" moves up to #12. Kelly Clarkson moves into the top 20 at #19 with "All I Ever Wanted". "All or Nothing" moves to #20, giving Theory of a Deadman their 2nd top 20 hit. "Syndicate" falls to #22 this week, making it The Fray's lowest peaking song since "All at Once" in 2007. Cavo return to the top 30 at #30 this week. "Hurtful" returns to its peak of #34. Ouch! of the Week: "Syndicate" falls 4 to #22. Song with the biggest spin increase: "All I Ever Wanted" (Over a 300 spin increase). Song with the biggest spin loss: "Heartbreak Warfare" (Over a 200 spin loss) Top 50 Hot AC chart can be found at: www.americasmusiccharts.com/index.cgi?fmt=A2 All chart data © Mediabase Research
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 10, 2010 21:58:07 GMT -5
Actually Ludacris was also featured on Fergie's "Glamorous" a few years ago. So technically this would be his second hit on the Hot AC chart, unless they are only counting the Hot AC version which edited Ludacris's part out.
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 11, 2010 7:35:24 GMT -5
Actually Ludacris was also featured on Fergie's "Glamorous" a few years ago. So technically this would be his second hit on the Hot AC chart, unless they are only counting the Hot AC version which edited Ludacris's part out. yeah, Mediabase didn't give him credit on the chart, so I didn't either. It's the same way with "Two Are Better than One" by Boys Like Girls. The chart never mentioned Taylor Swift, so I didn't count that for her either.
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 11, 2010 11:35:50 GMT -5
Actually Ludacris was also featured on Fergie's "Glamorous" a few years ago. So technically this would be his second hit on the Hot AC chart, unless they are only counting the Hot AC version which edited Ludacris's part out. yeah, Mediabase didn't give him credit on the chart, so I didn't either. It's the same way with "Two Are Better than One" by Boys Like Girls. The chart never mentioned Taylor Swift, so I didn't count that for her either. I see. However the record companies want to market the song is probably how they decide who gets credit and who doesn't. Thanks for the info!
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Post by wavetunes on Apr 11, 2010 13:04:05 GMT -5
I think this week is the 30th for Someday, so it'll go recurrent today.
I have a question. If a song is still gaining, but a recurrent rule applies to it, does it go recurrent then, or does mediabase wait for it to get negative bullet?
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 11, 2010 18:46:31 GMT -5
Well, songs aren't supposed to be removed from the chart until they have passed 30 weeks, in other words, week 31. However, both Shinedown and Rob Thomas look to have been removed this week, their 30th week. They would have been numbers 14 and 15, so it looks like Mediabase jumped the gun on this one.
If a song is still gaining spins, and it is near its peak position, then Mediabase usually leaves it on past it's usual deadline. However, they can be quick to remove it once it starts losing spins.
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 12, 2010 12:01:05 GMT -5
[blue] 04/11/10 [/blue] #1: "Need You Now" holds at the #1 spot for a fourth week. Oldest Song:"Hey, Soul Sister" with 34 weeks. Oldest Song below #15: "Replay" with 18 weeks Possibly Going to Recurrent: "Haven't Met You Yet" will go when it falls below #15. Going to Recurrent None scheduled next week. Biggest Mover: "Today Was a Fairytale" leaps 6 notches to #21 for the week's biggest move. Debuts: Newcomer B.O.B. has the highest debut of the week at #36 with "Nothin' on You". The song features Bruno Mars. Dead by Sunrise get their 1st hit on Hot AC at #39 with "Too Late". Pink scores her 13th Hot AC hit with "Glitter in the Air", at #40. Exiting the Survey: "Someday", 29 weeks, to recurrent "If You Only New", 29 weeks, to recurrent "Cowboy Casanova", 20 weeks, to recurrent Other Notes: "Breakeven" moves up 3 to #3 in their 30th week on the chart. OneRepublic makes chart history this week for the slowest rise to the top 10. "All the Right Moves" reaches the top 10 at #9 this week, in its 28th week on the chart. This beats the old record of 27 weeks by Staind's "Right Here". Another American Idol alumnus reaches the top 10 this week as Adam Lambert's "Whataya Want from Me" moves 12-10. "TiK ToK" rebounds to its peak of #14. Kelly Clarkson and Nickelback each move up 4 notches this week: "All I Ever Wanted" moves 19-15, and "This Afternoon" moves 24-20. Lady GaGa moves into the top 20 at #18 with "Telephone", her 5th top 20. "Bad Romance" falls out of the top 10 to #12 this week. "Just Say Yes" moves up 4 to #22. After a few weeks at #28, Melissa Etheridge moves up to #25 with "Fearless Love". Ryan Star cracks the top 30 at #28 with "Breathe". "Shark in the Water" moves up 5 to #30. Ouch! of the Week: "Syndicate" falls 4 to #26. Song with the biggest spin increase: "This Afternoon" (Over a 300 spin increase). Song with the biggest spin loss: "Heartbreak Warfare" (Over a 500 spin loss) Top 50 Hot AC chart can be found at: www.americasmusiccharts.com/index.cgi?fmt=A2 All chart data © Mediabase Research
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Post by brb on Apr 13, 2010 12:12:56 GMT -5
Well, songs aren't supposed to be removed from the chart until they have passed 30 weeks, in other words, week 31. However, both Shinedown and Rob Thomas look to have been removed this week, their 30th week. They would have been numbers 14 and 15, so it looks like Mediabase jumped the gun on this one. If a song is still gaining spins, and it is near its peak position, then Mediabase usually leaves it on past it's usual deadline. However, they can be quick to remove it once it starts losing spins. The recurrency rules were changed this week. The new recurrency rules for HAC now are: This was effective from this week and hence, Rob and Shinedown went recurrent.
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 13, 2010 12:37:15 GMT -5
Well, songs aren't supposed to be removed from the chart until they have passed 30 weeks, in other words, week 31. However, both Shinedown and Rob Thomas look to have been removed this week, their 30th week. They would have been numbers 14 and 15, so it looks like Mediabase jumped the gun on this one. If a song is still gaining spins, and it is near its peak position, then Mediabase usually leaves it on past it's usual deadline. However, they can be quick to remove it once it starts losing spins. The recurrency rules were changed this week. The new recurrency rules for HAC now are: This was effective from this week and hence, Rob and Shinedown went recurrent. Thanks for the info!!
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Post by wavetunes on Apr 14, 2010 15:30:35 GMT -5
I like the new change in recurrent rules, especially in the CHR chart. Some charts were getting painfully slow. I have to say, though, that 26 weeks on HAC is a bit an odd number of weeks to choose. Couldn't they have made it 25 weeks? LOL.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 14, 2010 16:32:59 GMT -5
26 is 6 months - half a year.
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Post by 95-7 Ben FM on Apr 17, 2010 17:24:25 GMT -5
I just read of the new recurrent rules...Hot AC Guru, if I remember correctly, you weren't happy when Mediabase changed the recurrent rule around this time last year to 30 weeks/below #10. What do you think of the new recurrent rules this time? (26 weeks/below #10 on Hot AC, 20 weeks/below #15 on Pop and others)?
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 18, 2010 13:46:48 GMT -5
I just read of the new recurrent rules...Hot AC Guru, if I remember correctly, you weren't happy when Mediabase changed the recurrent rule around this time last year to 30 weeks/below #10. What do you think of the new recurrent rules this time? (26 weeks/below #10 on Hot AC, 20 weeks/below #15 on Pop and others)? I don't like it all. They are trying to speed up the chart with these changing rules. The chart should reflect what's being played, although there should be some sort of rule so that we don't get charts like AT40's. I think they should have just left it at 20 weeks/#20 on both HAC and Pop. The more they artificially remove songs, the more that songs that don't belong on the chart will make the top 40, due to those stations on the panel that are classified as HAC that are really more like Pop. Of course this is just one man's opinion. ;)
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Apr 18, 2010 15:57:02 GMT -5
I just read of the new recurrent rules...Hot AC Guru, if I remember correctly, you weren't happy when Mediabase changed the recurrent rule around this time last year to 30 weeks/below #10. What do you think of the new recurrent rules this time? (26 weeks/below #10 on Hot AC, 20 weeks/below #15 on Pop and others)? I don't like it all. They are trying to speed up the chart with these changing rules. The chart should reflect what's being played, although there should be some sort of rule so that we don't get charts like AT40's. I think they should have just left it at 20 weeks/#20 on both HAC and Pop. The more they artificially remove songs, the more that songs that don't belong on the chart will make the top 40, due to those stations on the panel that are classified as HAC that are really more like Pop. Of course this is just one man's opinion. ;) I completely concur. 20/20 seems reasonable. Actually, if it were completely up to me, once a song had gone below 20 after 20 weeks, I wouldn't completely boot the song, I'd just start discounting its airplay. That way, those songs would move down faster, but a very long run wouldn't be impossible.
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 18, 2010 16:35:17 GMT -5
I just read of the new recurrent rules...Hot AC Guru, if I remember correctly, you weren't happy when Mediabase changed the recurrent rule around this time last year to 30 weeks/below #10. What do you think of the new recurrent rules this time? (26 weeks/below #10 on Hot AC, 20 weeks/below #15 on Pop and others)? I don't like it all. They are trying to speed up the chart with these changing rules. The chart should reflect what's being played, although there should be some sort of rule so that we don't get charts like AT40's. I think they should have just left it at 20 weeks/#20 on both HAC and Pop. The more they artificially remove songs, the more that songs that don't belong on the chart will make the top 40, due to those stations on the panel that are classified as HAC that are really more like Pop. Of course this is just one man's opinion. ;) I agree, though the only problem with the 20/20 rule on the HAC chart is that some songs tend to get hung up in the 15 to 20 range before they finally fall out. This has been documented on the popradiotop20.com website which archives the Mediabase top 20 charts in various formats. The person who runs this site (Duckhead I believe who was a former poster here) lists each top 20 chart without recurrent rules. Therefore, a song like "I'm Yours" by Jason Mraz was a prime example of a slowly dropping song, as this song spent about four months stuck in this range. But, as you said Hot AC Guru, this is a more accurate reflection of what is actually being played on the majority of HAC stations. And I would certainly have no problem with songs being removed to recurrent status once they fall out of the top 20. My other problem with these newer recurrent rules is that it seems to be encouraging more pop crossover songs to chart that really don't belong on this format. Those who have read my past posts know that I have no problem with some good mass-appeal pop crossover songs making the HAC chart, but when you start seeing the likes of Jay-Z, B.O.B, and some of the more hip-hop sounding Black Eyed Peas songs make the chart with regularity, I just don't know if this is the way things should be headed. And even with this happening, it's just not that natural to see songs dropping out of the entire chart from the top 10! Anyway, I definitely recommend the popradiotop20.com website as a much more accurate account of what is being played on the majority of HAC stations and CHR stations. And the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 HAC chart is not bad either even though it is compiled using the "dartboard" method!
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Apr 18, 2010 17:10:23 GMT -5
I don't like it all. They are trying to speed up the chart with these changing rules. The chart should reflect what's being played, although there should be some sort of rule so that we don't get charts like AT40's. I think they should have just left it at 20 weeks/#20 on both HAC and Pop. The more they artificially remove songs, the more that songs that don't belong on the chart will make the top 40, due to those stations on the panel that are classified as HAC that are really more like Pop. Of course this is just one man's opinion. ;) I agree, though the only problem with the 20/20 rule on the HAC chart is that some songs tend to get hung up in the 15 to 20 range before they finally fall out. This has been documented on the popradiotop20.com website which archives the Mediabase top 20 charts in various formats. The person who runs this site (Duckhead I believe who was a former poster here) lists each top 20 chart without recurrent rules. Therefore, a song like "I'm Yours" by Jason Mraz was a prime example of a slowly dropping song, as this song spent about four months stuck in this range. But, as you said Hot AC Guru, this is a more accurate reflection of what is actually being played on the majority of HAC stations. And I would certainly have no problem with songs being removed to recurrent status once they fall out of the top 20. My other problem with these newer recurrent rules is that it seems to be encouraging more pop crossover songs to chart that really don't belong on this format. Those who have read my past posts know that I have no problem with some good mass-appeal pop crossover songs making the HAC chart, but when you start seeing the likes of Jay-Z, B.O.B, and some of the more hip-hop sounding Black Eyed Peas songs make the chart with regularity, I just don't know if this is the way things should be headed. And even with this happening, it's just not that natural to see songs dropping out of the entire chart from the top 10! Anyway, I definitely recommend the popradiotop20.com website as a much more accurate account of what is being played on the majority of HAC stations and CHR stations. And the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 HAC chart is not bad either even though it is compiled using the "dartboard" method! Thanks for the link, Pete. I might have to look at popradiotop20.com and do some 'adjusting' to my database. My biggest issue with the constant changing of the recurrent rules is that it renders almost any longevity record meaningless. I believe "Drops Of Jupiter" holds the record for most weeks on the HAC chart, but how meaningful is that when it's run literally can't be replicated today? As far as the pop crossover debate goes, I don't have as big of an issue with it as others - I've been of the mind that the audience defines the format, not the songs. Who would have thought a decade ago that Pink would have such success in this format, as her first four CHR hits failed to make it in HAC?
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Post by wavetunes on Apr 18, 2010 17:19:51 GMT -5
26 is 6 months - half a year. LOL, I totally missed that. Thanks! :)
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Post by wavetunes on Apr 18, 2010 17:21:43 GMT -5
I think the problem was more on other formats, not HAC. Like it was getting really ridiculous on the CHR chart. Songs fall fast from the top 10, then once they get to # 15 or so, they just stall there for weeks and weeks. The difference in spins between the top 20 and below was huge, and I mean HUGE. I think there was a similar problem on the Alt chart.
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Apr 18, 2010 17:45:08 GMT -5
I think the problem was more on other formats, not HAC. Like it was getting really ridiculous on the CHR chart. Songs fall fast from the top 10, then once they get to # 15 or so, they just stall there for weeks and weeks. The difference in spins between the top 20 and below was huge, and I mean HUGE. I think there was a similar problem on the Alt chart. Without doing any sort of empirical research, I would suggest that the recurrent issue was/is far worse within Hot AC then CHR or ALT. Conversely, AC and Country are far worse than Hot AC. AAA would be about on par with Hot AC.
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 18, 2010 22:19:21 GMT -5
I agree, though the only problem with the 20/20 rule on the HAC chart is that some songs tend to get hung up in the 15 to 20 range before they finally fall out. This has been documented on the popradiotop20.com website which archives the Mediabase top 20 charts in various formats. The person who runs this site (Duckhead I believe who was a former poster here) lists each top 20 chart without recurrent rules. Therefore, a song like "I'm Yours" by Jason Mraz was a prime example of a slowly dropping song, as this song spent about four months stuck in this range. But, as you said Hot AC Guru, this is a more accurate reflection of what is actually being played on the majority of HAC stations. And I would certainly have no problem with songs being removed to recurrent status once they fall out of the top 20. My other problem with these newer recurrent rules is that it seems to be encouraging more pop crossover songs to chart that really don't belong on this format. Those who have read my past posts know that I have no problem with some good mass-appeal pop crossover songs making the HAC chart, but when you start seeing the likes of Jay-Z, B.O.B, and some of the more hip-hop sounding Black Eyed Peas songs make the chart with regularity, I just don't know if this is the way things should be headed. And even with this happening, it's just not that natural to see songs dropping out of the entire chart from the top 10! Anyway, I definitely recommend the popradiotop20.com website as a much more accurate account of what is being played on the majority of HAC stations and CHR stations. And the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 HAC chart is not bad either even though it is compiled using the "dartboard" method! Thanks for the link, Pete. I might have to look at popradiotop20.com and do some 'adjusting' to my database. My biggest issue with the constant changing of the recurrent rules is that it renders almost any longevity record meaningless. I believe "Drops Of Jupiter" holds the record for most weeks on the HAC chart, but how meaningful is that when it's run literally can't be replicated today? As far as the pop crossover debate goes, I don't have as big of an issue with it as others - I've been of the mind that the audience defines the format, not the songs. Who would have thought a decade ago that Pink would have such success in this format, as her first four CHR hits failed to make it in HAC? No problem. Using this methodology of including recurrents, all longevity records still carry meaning and can possibly be broken in the future. However, if you do scan the year-end charts (which includes the complete chart run of a song for the year that it peaks), even with recurrents included, most of the biggest songs have had "quicker" runs in recent years than in the early 2000's. But it is definitely interesting to look through this website.
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Apr 18, 2010 22:27:07 GMT -5
Knock on wood, hopefully we're moving into an era where the songs on this format might move a little quicker. Of course, I've said that before. But if it's true, the recurrent rules become more and more silly - I already think they're out of place on CHR.
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 18, 2010 22:29:06 GMT -5
I think the problem was more on other formats, not HAC. Like it was getting really ridiculous on the CHR chart. Songs fall fast from the top 10, then once they get to # 15 or so, they just stall there for weeks and weeks. The difference in spins between the top 20 and below was huge, and I mean HUGE. I think there was a similar problem on the Alt chart. Without doing any sort of empirical research, I would suggest that the recurrent issue was/is far worse within Hot AC then CHR or ALT. Conversely, AC and Country are far worse than Hot AC. AAA would be about on par with Hot AC. Definitely. Hot AC is a much slower moving chart than the CHR chart which makes me wonder why they added the 20/15 rule to the CHR chart. Obviously they went from 30 to 26 weeks on the Hot AC chart to coincide with the BDS recurrent rules, but if you want the most accurate reading of airplay, it's best to keep the recurrents until they drop out of the top 20, even if it means some songs clogging up the bottom quarter of the chart.
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 18, 2010 22:30:53 GMT -5
Knock on wood, hopefully we're moving into an era where the songs on this format might move a little quicker. Of course, I've said that before. But if it's true, the recurrent rules become more and more silly - I already think they're out of place on CHR. I hope so. But the chart movements have seemed to slow down again over the last couple of months. At least that's my feeling right now.
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Post by dajross6 on Apr 19, 2010 10:47:51 GMT -5
I think the problem was more on other formats, not HAC. Like it was getting really ridiculous on the CHR chart. Songs fall fast from the top 10, then once they get to # 15 or so, they just stall there for weeks and weeks. The difference in spins between the top 20 and below was huge, and I mean HUGE. I think there was a similar problem on the Alt chart. Without doing any sort of empirical research, I would suggest that the recurrent issue was/is far worse within Hot AC then CHR or ALT. Conversely, AC and Country are far worse than Hot AC. AAA would be about on par with Hot AC. Isn't the country recurrent rule just three consecutive weeks of losing spins outside of #1?
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 19, 2010 13:32:00 GMT -5
If the current recurrent rules were applied to the longevity record holder, "Drops of Jupiter", the song would have been removed after 58 weeks, instead of the record 71 weeks.
I wouldn't be surprised if one day the songs are removed using the rule of 3 consecutive weeks without a bullet below #1 (which I am not sure if it is the current rule for the Country chart or not)
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Post by wavetunes on Apr 19, 2010 17:10:37 GMT -5
I think the problem was more on other formats, not HAC. Like it was getting really ridiculous on the CHR chart. Songs fall fast from the top 10, then once they get to # 15 or so, they just stall there for weeks and weeks. The difference in spins between the top 20 and below was huge, and I mean HUGE. I think there was a similar problem on the Alt chart. Without doing any sort of empirical research, I would suggest that the recurrent issue was/is far worse within Hot AC then CHR or ALT. Conversely, AC and Country are far worse than Hot AC. AAA would be about on par with Hot AC. Ha! Yeah, I wasn't implying otherwise. I was referring to the manipulation of some CHR stations that cause songs to stall forever just above 20, after rapidly falling from the top. Some of these stations also refuse to play some songs unless they enter the top 20. Personally, I didn't really have a problem with the old HAC recurrent rules. HAC is generally slow, and I don't think songs suddenly stall just above 15, before going recurrent. I wouldn't mind, though, if it moved a bit faster. :)
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Apr 20, 2010 12:42:35 GMT -5
[blue] 04/18/10 [/blue] #1: "Need You Now" holds at the #1 spot for a fifth week. Oldest Song:"Hey, Soul Sister" with 35 weeks. Oldest Song below #15: "Replay" with 19 weeks Possibly Going to Recurrent: "Haven't Met You Yet" will go when it falls below #15 or in 2 weeks if it's below #10. Going to Recurrent None scheduled next week. Biggest Mover: "In My Head" jumps 5 notches to #22 for the week's biggest move. Debuts: Train racks up their 12th Hot AC hit with "If It's Love", the highest debut at #39. Newcomer Serena Ryder comes in at #40 with "All for Love". Exiting the Survey: "Imma Be", 4 weeks "Too Late", 1 week Other Notes: "According to You" inches up to #6 for a new peak. Michael Buble re-enters the top 10 at #10 with "Haven't Met You Yet". "This Afternoon" moves up 3 to #17. No songs enter or exit the top 20 this week. After being the biggest mover last week, Taylor Swift holds at #21 with "Today Was a Fairytale". Melissa Etheridge gets pushed back to #26 from #25. Blue October's "Should Be Loved" continues its rebound on the chart, returning to the top 30 at #30. Angel Taylor rises 3 to #32 with "Like You Do". Taio Cruz climbs 4 to #33 with "Break Your Heart". "Glitter in the Air" moves up 2 to #38. Ouch! of the Week: "Replay" falls 5 to #37. Song with the biggest spin increase: "This Afternoon" (Nearly a 300 spin increase). Song with the biggest spin loss: "Heartbreak Warfare" (Over a 400 spin loss) *Note: Mediabase's "Last Week" numbers on several songs are incorrect this week. Top 50 Hot AC chart can be found at: www.americasmusiccharts.com/index.cgi?fmt=A2 All chart data © Mediabase Research
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 22, 2010 21:54:48 GMT -5
Without doing any sort of empirical research, I would suggest that the recurrent issue was/is far worse within Hot AC then CHR or ALT. Conversely, AC and Country are far worse than Hot AC. AAA would be about on par with Hot AC. Isn't the country recurrent rule just three consecutive weeks of losing spins outside of #1? Now that's just pathetic! Why don't we just start removing songs the minute they start dropping, even out of the number one spot?! Speaking of pathetic, the AC chart recurrent rules have turned this into a joke as well. There is more than an 800 spin gap between the #8 and #9 songs because of their stupid recurrent rule. And that's not even the best part. How about an artist "earning" a top 40 "hit" with less than 40 spins?! Uhh, how about no?! While not the same issue as the AT40 chart with too many recurrents, the Mediabase and BDS AC charts are examples of going too far overboard in the other direction.
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Apr 23, 2010 9:43:07 GMT -5
Isn't the country recurrent rule just three consecutive weeks of losing spins outside of #1? Now that's just pathetic! Why don't we just start removing songs the minute they start dropping, even out of the number one spot?! Speaking of pathetic, the AC chart recurrent rules have turned this into a joke as well. There is more than an 800 spin gap between the #8 and #9 songs because of their stupid recurrent rule. And that's not even the best part. How about an artist "earning" a top 40 "hit" with less than 40 spins?! Uhh, how about no?! While not the same issue as the AT40 chart with too many recurrents, the Mediabase and BDS AC charts are examples of going too far overboard in the other direction. While I've mentioned before that I'd be in favor of some sort of rule that discounts spins when a song reaches a certain age, I think the best simple solution would be 20/20.
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Post by musicfanpete on Apr 23, 2010 11:02:53 GMT -5
Now that's just pathetic! Why don't we just start removing songs the minute they start dropping, even out of the number one spot?! Speaking of pathetic, the AC chart recurrent rules have turned this into a joke as well. There is more than an 800 spin gap between the #8 and #9 songs because of their stupid recurrent rule. And that's not even the best part. How about an artist "earning" a top 40 "hit" with less than 40 spins?! Uhh, how about no?! While not the same issue as the AT40 chart with too many recurrents, the Mediabase and BDS AC charts are examples of going too far overboard in the other direction. While I've mentioned before that I'd be in favor of some sort of rule that discounts spins when a song reaches a certain age, I think the best simple solution would be 20/20. Definitely. Hopefully you have had a chance to browse the popradiotop20.com website as this is exactly how he compiles these charts.
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