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Post by Koochie on Mar 14, 2022 11:11:44 GMT -5
Full statement. Looks like she's more or less telling them not to pick her, but yeah I don't think she has a choice.
Queen shit either way
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 14, 2022 11:21:13 GMT -5
The vote split comment is interesting. Who does she think would be splitting votes with her?
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Mar 14, 2022 12:30:34 GMT -5
Yeah I didn’t get that. The vote split part.
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Post by Amnesiac on Mar 14, 2022 13:34:44 GMT -5
The vote split comment is interesting. Who does she think would be splitting votes with her? There's really no one else on the ballot that is in her lane this year. It's not like that one year where they had Motorhead, Soundgarden, Thin Lizzy, and Judas Priest, where votes were definitely split, or even this year with Tribe and Eminem. Devo, meanwhile, has their own idea
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 14, 2022 21:49:34 GMT -5
Adore Dolly, though this is just silly on her part. She is taking the "Rock and Roll" part of the name way too literally. Has she seen the list of nominees and inductees?
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 14, 2022 22:09:08 GMT -5
Adore Dolly, though this is just silly on her part. She is taking the "Rock and Roll" part of the name way too literally. Has she seen the list of nominees and inductees? I agree, but this is funny coming from someone who has been saying some certain acts aren't "rock" enough to get in.
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Post by Nick on Mar 15, 2022 6:30:29 GMT -5
I was surprised to see that Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette are not inducted, so maybe Dolly felt it was a long shot to get in as a Country female act. However, Wanda Jackson was inducted as an "early influence" but not as a "performer".
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 15, 2022 8:52:02 GMT -5
I saw it pointed out that Dolly tying her statement to not being 'rock' just reaffirms the elitism that has plagued the HoF all along. It would be better to either get her in as a country artist, or for her withdrawal to be a "Fuck you" to the HoF for people like her, Lynn, etc not already being in.
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Post by Amnesiac on Mar 15, 2022 9:43:01 GMT -5
Good piece on what the Hall could do about Dolly's request from yesterday.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 15, 2022 14:53:19 GMT -5
jeng- you talkin;' to me? :) I've said the Hall may not see some acts as "rock" enough, whether in attitude, or how they approach and/or present their work. However, with some of the nominees/inductees in recent times, I don't think that's necessarily the case any longer.
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Post by Mirago on Mar 18, 2022 11:23:08 GMT -5
So the hall of fame has rejected her rejection, Dolly is such a rockstar.
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Post by Nick on Mar 18, 2022 16:33:21 GMT -5
So the hall of fame has rejected her rejection, Dolly is such a rockstar. It makes sense though. People were voting over a month already before Dolly made this announcement. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a smart PR move.
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Post by Music Fan on Mar 18, 2022 17:27:49 GMT -5
So the hall of fame has rejected her rejection, Dolly is such a rockstar. It makes sense though. People were voting over a month already before Dolly made this announcement. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a smart PR move. This was a great PR move, indeed. Intentional or not.
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Post by Amnesiac on Apr 29, 2022 21:38:14 GMT -5
Dolly's okay with going in the Hall of Fame after all.
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Post by colson on Apr 30, 2022 2:35:21 GMT -5
Dolly says this just as the voting window has ended? Not that people were going to be influenced either way on what she said a few months ago.
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Post by Nick on Apr 30, 2022 6:03:58 GMT -5
The 2022 Fan Vote is now closed! Thank you to all the Fans who voted.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 30, 2022 8:12:17 GMT -5
Three of the top 5 were ones I voted for regularly.
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Post by Private Dancer on May 3, 2022 14:31:34 GMT -5
Pat Benetar, Duran Duran, and Eurythmics are not in yet???
I do believe we do not need to vote for the people to be inducted. It should just be either an industry voting process or the awards themselves choose who gets inducted.
Dionne needs to be inducted ASAP. She has had a major impact on music, as quiet as it kept.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 4, 2022 7:06:47 GMT -5
Four of the five that I regularly voted for have made it- yay. Especially for Pat B./Neil G., Carly and Dolly. futurerocklegends.com/2022_Inductees/PerformersPat Benatar (Pat Benatar, Neil Giraldo) Duran Duran (Simon Le Bon, Nick Rhodes, Andy Taylor, John Taylor, Roger Taylor, Warren Cuccurullo) Eminem Eurythmics (Annie Lennox, Dave Stewart) Dolly Parton Lionel Richie Carly Simon Musical ExcellenceJudas Priest (Les Binks, K.K. Downing, Rob Halford, Ian Hill, Dave Holland, Glenn Tipton, Scott Travis) Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis (James "Jimmy Jam" Harris, Terry Lewis) Early InfluenceHarry Belafonte Elizabeth Cotten Ahmet Ertegun AwardAllen Grubman Jimmy Iovine Sylvia Robinson
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Post by Nick on May 4, 2022 7:28:02 GMT -5
Even though Judas Priest didn’t get in as performers, it’s cool they got in somehow. Lead singer Rob Halford is openly gay.
So all 5/6 that I voted for got in, minus Dionne Warwick. I flipped between Dolly and Dionne.
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Post by Gary on May 4, 2022 8:36:43 GMT -5
The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Reveals Class of 2022 Dolly Parton, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, Lionel Richie & Carly Simon make up the Class of 2022.www.billboard.com/music/awards/rock-roll-hall-of-fame-class-2022-dolly-parton-eminem-1235066490/By Rania Aniftos 05/4/2022 On Wednesday morning (May 4), the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame announced which of this year’s nominees will be inducted at the 2022 ceremony on Nov. 5 in Los Angeles. Rock hitmaker Pat Benatar, new wave chart-toppers Duran Duran, hip-hop heavyweight Eminem, synth-pop duo Eurythmics, country legend Dolly Parton, R&B hitmaker Lionel Richie and pop singer-songwriter Carly Simon make up the Class of 2022. Additionally, heavy metal fixtures Judas Priest and songwriting/production powerhouse duo Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis are also joining the Rock Hall with the “award for musical excellence” (which was originally titled the “sidemen” category when it debuted). Judas Priest is the second band to receive the award for musical excellence; the E Street Band was the first. “Wow, this is so exciting — at last. At last, you know?” Judas Priest’s Rob Halford told Billboard after receiving the news before the public announcement. “And, glory hallelujah, there’s another metal band in the hall of fame! That’s the blessing we’ve all been waiting for.” Under the “early influence award” category, the “King of Calypso” Harry Belafonte and folk and blues legend Elizabeth Cotten are joining the RRHOF. Allen Grubman, Jimmy Iovine and Sylvia Robinson are the recipients of the Ahmet Ertegun Award. Robinson is just the fourth woman to receive the Ahmet Ertegun Award. Moreover, she’s the first Black woman and the first woman who was primarily known as a record label executive to receive that award. The first three women to receive the award were songwriters Carole King (1990) and Ellie Greenwich and Cynthia Weil (both 2010). “This diverse group of inductees each had a profound impact on the sound of youth culture and helped change the course of rock & roll,” said John Sykes, chairman of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, in a press statement. “Their music moved generations and influenced so many artists that followed.” Artists are eligible for Rock Hall nomination 25 years after their first commercial recording came out. Of this class, Eminem, Duran Duran, Richie, Simon and Parton see induction after appearing on the ballot just once. This is also Eminem’s first year of eligibility; 2022 marked the second nomination for Eurythmics and Benatar. “Being elected to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is an incredible honor. I would like to say THANK YOU to all of the voters, to all of my wonderful fans and to everyone at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Congratulations to all of my fellow 2022 inductees!” Richie said in a statement to Billboard. Parton’s induction comes after she turned down her nomination for induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in March. “Even though I’m extremely flattered and grateful to be nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I don’t feel that I have earned that right,” Parton said on social media. “I really do not want votes split because of me, so I must respectfully bow out.” However, just days before the inductees were announced, the 10-time Grammy winner shared in an interview with NPR that she would “accept gracefully” if she were to receive the honor, as the RRHOF announced they’ll be keeping her on the ballot despite her statement. “I would just say thanks and I’ll accept it because the fans vote,” she continued. “But when I said that, it was always my belief that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was for the people in rock music, and I have found out lately that it’s not necessarily that. But if they can’t go there to be recognized, where do they go? So I just felt like I would be taking away from someone that maybe deserved it, certainly more than me, because I never considered myself a rock artist. But obviously, there’s more to it than that.” The 2022 ceremony will be the first time in the Hall’s 37-year history that six female acts — Benatar, Parton, Simon, Cotten, Robinson and Annie Lennox (who comprised Eurythmics with her partner Dave Stewart) — will be inducted in one class. Before their RRHOF induction, Lennox and Stewart will be inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame on June 16 in New York. They were notified of the award in December 2019, but the ceremony was postponed twice because of the pandemic. “It’s full circle,” the Eurythmics’ Stewart told Billboard after hearing the news before the public announcement. “We never imagined anything, (Lennox) from Scotland and me from Northern England, that we would ever go to America, much less this. We never imagined that would end up in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.” Ticket information for the 37th annual Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony will be available soon. The ceremony takes place on Nov. 5 at Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles, with a radio simulcast on SiriusXM’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame radio channel. The event will also air a later date on HBO and stream on HBO Max, which you can sign up for here.
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Post by The Music Man on May 4, 2022 9:31:08 GMT -5
Great list. I would have been more excited about Devo than I am about Lionel, but he's plenty deserving. Looking forward to this year's ceremony.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 4, 2022 9:50:53 GMT -5
Lionel is the only thing keeping this from being an all-white group SMH
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Post by areyoureadytojump on May 4, 2022 9:56:37 GMT -5
Great inductees this year. So happy for Pat and Dave/Annie.
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Post by Verisimilitude on May 4, 2022 9:56:49 GMT -5
Except for Eminem, that's an incredible lineup. Elated for Dolly, Duran Duran, Pat Benetar, Eurythmics, & Carly Simon.
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Post by Glove Slap on May 4, 2022 10:04:12 GMT -5
Eminem absolutely deserves this lmao.
Kate Bush still not being in is a stain. She has been far more musically influential than Lionel or Carly imo, even if they predate her.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on May 4, 2022 13:06:15 GMT -5
Kate Bush still not being in is a stain. She has been far more musically influential than Lionel or Carly imo, even if they predate her. 100%. Kate is in a league of her own. Very few have been able to come close to her artistry and impact.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 4, 2022 14:59:09 GMT -5
While popularity isn't the main factor for induction, the relative lack thereof in America for acts like Kate Bush and Bjork may hurt their chances.
Eminem's combination of acclaim and popularity made him one of not-surprising first-year-eligible inductees. And at least there is a hip-hop inductee (albeit a non-person-of-color). And while the performer inductees are mostly white, at least we see diversity in the Musical Excellence and Early Influence categories, and a woman of color posthumously will be one of three Ahmet Ertegun Award recipients.
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Post by torgojohnson on May 5, 2022 7:22:48 GMT -5
Lionel is the only thing keeping this from being an all-white group SMH If Sylvia Robinson were still alive, I'd imagine she would be quite shocked to find out that she is white.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 5, 2022 7:59:45 GMT -5
Lionel is the only thing keeping this from being an all-white group SMH If Sylvia Robinson were still alive, I'd imagine she would be quite shocked to find out that she is white. I was speaking about the Performers category that is based on the group vote. There has long been criticism of those inductees being mostly white men.
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