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Post by jdanton2 on May 5, 2022 15:51:47 GMT -5
Lionel Ritchie is one of my favorite singer and songwriters of all time . he is well deserved even though he might not be Rock And Roll. neither is Dolly Parton but she got in as well.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 5, 2022 16:04:08 GMT -5
I just personally find Richie more interesting/influential as part of the Commodores and not as a solo artist. I'd more so support the Commodores getting in the HoF. This feels like they are combining his work work them and his solo work, which isn't technically how it works.
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Post by bat1990 on May 5, 2022 16:20:05 GMT -5
F**K YES! Pat Benatar and the Eurythmics are finally in! Two of the acts I grew up listening to!!!
If the ceremony is in Cleveland this year, I may have to snag tickets!
EDIT: Never mind, it's in LA :(
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Post by Nick on May 5, 2022 16:39:28 GMT -5
F**K YES! Pat Benatar and the Eurythmics are finally in! Two of the acts I grew up listening to!!! If the ceremony is in Cleveland this year, I may have to snag tickets! EDIT: Never mind, it's in LA :( Annie has said on IG that they are Eurythmics, there is no "The". Who knew? lol
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 5, 2022 17:23:30 GMT -5
^He didn't have "the" capped, so technically, nothing wrong there. Now, if he had written The Eurythmics... ;)
I imagine some voters do consider work with a group, though, at the same time, some are inducted as part of that group and also solo.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 27, 2022 19:22:50 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 28, 2022 9:14:04 GMT -5
A tad early for this discussion, but here goes... futurerocklegends.com/Year/2023/These artists released their first recording in 1997, which makes them eligible for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2023. 98 Degrees Alkaline Trio All Saints The Ataris Atmosphere The Avalanches Bacon Brothers Badly Drawn Boy Beta Band Billie Myers Black Eyed Peas Blackmore's Night Blindside Bright Eyes Buena Vista Social Club The Bug Children of Bodom Creed Days of the New Derek Trucks Destiny's Child Devin Townsend The Dillinger Escape Plan The Donnas Eagle-Eye Cherry Edguy Embrace Five For Fighting Flickerstick Flogging Molly Forest For The Trees Glassjaw Godspeed You Black Emperor! HammerFall Hanson Harvey Danger Idlewild Imogen Heap Jagged Edge Jamie Lidell The K.G.B. Lee Ann Womack Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz Limp Bizkit Marcy Playground Martha Wainwright Matmos Mew The Microphones Missy Elliott Morning Musume Mos Def Mudvayne Muse The Music Tapes Natalie Imbruglia Neko Case New Found Glory Nightwish O.A.R. Of Montreal P Diddy (Puff Daddy) Pink Martini Queens of the Stone Age Sara Evans Sevendust Shadows Fall Sia Sigur Rós Smash Mouth SOiL Stereophonics String Cheese Incident Switchfoot Third Eye Blind Thousand Foot Krutch Twiztid The Vehicle Birth Will Smith Within Temptation Wyclef Jean
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 28, 2022 9:18:45 GMT -5
^ I definitely think Missy Elliott could get in at some point since she's so innovative and beloved. I don't see anyone else in there making it, at least not in the near future, unless they think Destiny's Child deserves it along with Beyonce (she's a shoo-in when she's eligible). Maybe Muse will get in at some point, I just don't see it being right away.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 28, 2022 16:11:15 GMT -5
Destiny's Child must not and should not be considered/nominated before the likes of Salt-N-Pepa and/or TLC. Fact. We possibly could also say En Vogue, though not as much as the aforementioned two.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 28, 2022 18:40:19 GMT -5
Destiny's Child must not and should not be considered/nominated before the likes of Salt-N-Pepa and/or TLC. Fact. We possibly could also say En Vogue, though not as much as the aforementioned two. I agree, but Beyonce being part of Destiny's Child would help them out. Really though, I don't see any of these acts getting in soon, if ever.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 29, 2022 7:56:10 GMT -5
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Post by Nasarati on Oct 30, 2022 15:28:59 GMT -5
A tad early for this discussion, but here goes... futurerocklegends.com/Year/2023/These artists released their first recording in 1997, which makes them eligible for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2023. 98 Degrees Alkaline Trio All Saints The Ataris Atmosphere The Avalanches Bacon Brothers Badly Drawn Boy Beta Band Billie Myers Black Eyed Peas Blackmore's Night Blindside Bright Eyes Buena Vista Social Club The Bug Children of Bodom Creed Days of the New Derek Trucks Destiny's Child Devin Townsend The Dillinger Escape Plan The Donnas Eagle-Eye Cherry Edguy Embrace Five For Fighting Flickerstick Flogging Molly Forest For The Trees Glassjaw Godspeed You Black Emperor! HammerFall Hanson Harvey Danger Idlewild Imogen Heap Jagged Edge Jamie Lidell The K.G.B. Lee Ann Womack Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz Limp Bizkit Marcy Playground Martha Wainwright Matmos Mew The Microphones Missy Elliott Morning Musume Mos Def Mudvayne Muse The Music Tapes Natalie Imbruglia Neko Case New Found Glory Nightwish O.A.R. Of Montreal P Diddy (Puff Daddy) Pink Martini Queens of the Stone Age Sara Evans Sevendust Shadows Fall Sia Sigur Rós Smash Mouth SOiL Stereophonics String Cheese Incident Switchfoot Third Eye Blind Thousand Foot Krutch Twiztid The Vehicle Birth Will Smith Within Temptation Wyclef Jean I'm a casual and don't know anything about the RaRHoF, but at a glance: Godspeed You Black Emperor! and The Microphones are my personal YES PLEASE YES PUT THEM IN. Limp Bizkit getting in would be extremely funny, and I guess appropriate, because they were certainly... influential... Oh, and Muse will certainly get in. More a matter of 'when' rather than 'if.' The cooler the band/artist, the less I see them giving a shit about induction. The Microphones' Phil Elverum is way too dope to even perceive a crusty institution like this. But I could somehow see those Limp Bizkit losers getting excited over it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2022 18:26:53 GMT -5
Limp Bizkit are considered to be a joke and will never see the Rock Hall.
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Post by Gary on Oct 30, 2022 19:16:08 GMT -5
1. They are rock to begin with and one of the biggest rock bands of the era 2. They released a couple of the biggest albums of the era
That said they weren't one of my favorites but...we will see
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2022 19:21:10 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on Oct 30, 2022 19:26:06 GMT -5
Like I said
We will see
I wasn’t necessarily a fan myself but we know they don’t have your vote
Actual successful rock bands may get favored in these cases. As opposed to artists based in other genres . Who knows. But like I said. We will see
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 31, 2022 10:49:24 GMT -5
Destiny's Child must not and should not be considered/nominated before the likes of Salt-N-Pepa and/or TLC. Fact. We possibly could also say En Vogue, though not as much as the aforementioned two. I agree. Although, En Vogue, I'd say are just as deserving as TLC and Salt-N-Pepa. These were the three female groups that dominated simultaneously and inspired those that came after them. Anytime TLC, or Salt N Pepa gets named so does En Vogue. Back to DC, I do feel like they do not need to get in before the aforemeinted 3, but knowing the fact that Beyonce was apart of the group they probably would get in before the 3
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 31, 2022 10:50:43 GMT -5
Smash Mouth better not get in....they are a literal joke as well a Limp Bizkit
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 31, 2022 11:37:36 GMT -5
Destiny's Child must not and should not be considered/nominated before the likes of Salt-N-Pepa and/or TLC. Fact. We possibly could also say En Vogue, though not as much as the aforementioned two. I agree. Although, En Vogue, I'd say are just as deserving as TLC and Salt-N-Pepa. These were the three female groups that dominated simultaneously and inspired those that came after them. Anytime TLC, or Salt N Pepa gets named so does En Vogue. Back to DC, I do feel like they do not need to get in before the aforemeinted 3, but knowing the fact that Beyonce was apart of the group they probably would get in before the 3 I struggle with this stuff personally. I love En Vogue, but the reality is they had 1 big album. Their first album was big in R&B circles, but not in a Rock HoF sense. I personally think it should take more than 1 album to get an act in the HoF, unless it's a Miseducation of Lauryn Hill/Tapestry/Appetite for Destruction kind of album. En Vogue definitely had some influence on the R&B group trend of the 90s, but female R&B groups had existed for decades before them so you can't even really say they did something new (and even an act like Expose was having songs hit on Pop and R&B just before En Vogue). Salt N Pepa I can at least justify as breaking a lot of ground for women rappers. TLC of course brought a whole new element to women groups in how their 3 styles were so different. They also had 3 clear great albums/eras with some genuine classic singles. Sadly none of these groups had long-lasting influence, though. Once the 90s ended, you didn't really see any women R&B or hip-hop groups of note outside of DC3 for a couple more years.
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 31, 2022 15:51:29 GMT -5
I agree. Although, En Vogue, I'd say are just as deserving as TLC and Salt-N-Pepa. These were the three female groups that dominated simultaneously and inspired those that came after them. Anytime TLC, or Salt N Pepa gets named so does En Vogue. Back to DC, I do feel like they do not need to get in before the aforemeinted 3, but knowing the fact that Beyonce was apart of the group they probably would get in before the 3 I struggle with this stuff personally. I love En Vogue, but the reality is they had 1 big album. Their first album was big in R&B circles, but not in a Rock HoF sense. I personally think it should take more than 1 album to get an act in the HoF, unless it's a Miseducation of Lauryn Hill/Tapestry/Appetite for Destruction kind of album. En Vogue definitely had some influence on the R&B group trend of the 90s, but female R&B groups had existed for decades before them so you can't even really say they did something new (and even an act like Expose was having songs hit on Pop and R&B just before En Vogue). Salt N Pepa I can at least justify as breaking a lot of ground for women rappers. TLC of course brought a whole new element to women groups in how their 3 styles were so different. They also had 3 clear great albums/eras with some genuine classic singles. Sadly none of these groups had long-lasting influence, though. Once the 90s ended, you didn't really see any women R&B or hip-hop groups of note outside of DC3 for a couple more years. En Vogue first 2 albums sold 3M in the US and the 3rd one selling 1M. Regardless, En Vogue is very influential. When they came out, there was no other soulful girlgroup that sounded like them with the harmonies and vocals and not to mention the classy style blended with sexiness that they incorpated into their styles. They did indeed do something new, no other girl group at the time sounded like them. And yes R&B groups existed before them, but none as dominate as En Vogue and last time we saw an successful R&B girlgroup was Martha & The Vandellas (The Supremes were primarily pop). Like I stated previously, anytime SNP and TLC were mentioned, so has En Vogue in the same convo. They are the 9th most successful girgroup of all time. And TLC, SNP, and En Vogue although their mainstream success did not last multiple decades, their impact has spread far beyond the R&B realm.
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Post by sbb618 on Nov 3, 2022 13:54:25 GMT -5
If non-performer inductees are included, Mike Stoller (of Leiber & Stoller) is also still alive The third class has a decent chunk still with us, thankfully: three Beach Boys, two Beatles, one Drifter, Bob Dylan, Diana Ross, and Berry Gordy
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Post by cking33 on Nov 3, 2022 14:31:49 GMT -5
I've always thought that both Destiny's Child and Beyonce were going to be first-year inductees just because it's Beyonce. She'll probably be the fourth woman inducted twice six years from now. Even if others "deserve" to get in ahead of them from the same time period. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see DC on the ballot next year and then getting in. Missy Elliott is also a no-brainer but we'll see how the committee handles them. Not always the best track record with putting Black women on the ballot and then subsequently into the Hall!
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 8, 2022 11:23:15 GMT -5
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Post by Daenerys on Jan 19, 2023 11:31:49 GMT -5
How is Alanis not inducted into the Hall of Fame, based on Jagged Little Pill alone?
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Post by Amnesiac on Jan 19, 2023 14:55:40 GMT -5
How is Alanis not inducted into the Hall of Fame, based on Jagged Little Pill alone? The Rock Hall has been somewhat slow to recognize artists from the '90s, solo female artists, and alternative rock in general. Alanis fits into all three of those neglected categories.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 31, 2023 14:30:40 GMT -5
Tomorrow, 2023 nominees will be announced.
The eligible year is supposed too be 25 years from an act's first recording (single or album), and that made sense when nominees were announced in the fall and induction happened in the spring. It's all in the same year now, so you'd think acts that released their first recording in 1998 would be eligible this year, but Future Rock Legends has it as 1997.
In any event, these are FRL's nominee predictions:
Acts Not Yet Nominated Cyndi Lauper Jimmy Buffett Missy Elliott Jethro Tull Willie Nelson Queen Latifah Sheryl Crow Huey Lewis & the News Kool & the Gang
Previous Nominees Iron Maiden Rage Against the Machine A Tribe Called Quest Soundgarden Rufus and Chaka Khan Kate Bush Dionne Warwick Devo Sting
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Post by Private Dancer on Jan 31, 2023 15:25:04 GMT -5
Dionne should've been in! Rooting for Cyndi, Missy, R&C, and Latifah.
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Post by cking33 on Jan 31, 2023 15:50:16 GMT -5
The Hall has been determined to right past wrongs with overlooked women the last few years. It’s been a big list of people who have previously been on the “worst snubs” lists that are in now. Feels like if they continue in that direction Dionne Warwick and Chaka should be beneficiaries of that this year. I bet Missy gets in this year as well for the creative force she is.
But this is the Hall, and would they actually induct three Black women as solo artists in the same year? I remain skeptical!
Also no rumblings of Mariah getting on the ballot and we’re a few years removed from Janet and Whitney getting in. Curious to when they’ll finally put her on there. Seems like she had momentum after Whitney got in and she was inducted in the Songwriter’s Hall of Fame
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Post by Caviar on Feb 1, 2023 8:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 1, 2023 8:48:31 GMT -5
Rooting for Kate Bush, George Michael, New Order, Missy Elliott, and Cyndi Lauper to be the 5 inductees. Though Sheryl Crow & A Tribe Called Quest would be great too. Knowing the R&R Hall Of Fame, Willie Nelson, Iron Maiden, Soundgarden, & Rage Against The Machine do seem like the easy shoo-ins.
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