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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jan 6, 2013 15:30:20 GMT -5
Wait, didn't M5 kept blocking PSY from #1 by 3 points?
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Post by Libra on Jan 6, 2013 15:36:54 GMT -5
My point was 10,000 points in Billboard terms really isn't THAT huge of a difference, is it? It's a lot more than that which kept PSY out of #1 a few months ago. IIRC wasn't it something like 1 or 2,000 a couple of weeks, even <1,000 at least one week? |
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Post by KappaSquid on Jan 6, 2013 16:08:38 GMT -5
Can someone give me an airplay update for Thrift Shop-Macklemore?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jan 6, 2013 16:10:39 GMT -5
from Kworb:
46 +3 MACKLEMORE & RYAN... Thrift Shop f/Wan... 41.975 +2.038
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Jan 6, 2013 16:19:03 GMT -5
Other airplay updates (1/6/2012)
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Most are from Kworb and a few from Mediabase
GARY ALLAN - Every Storm (Runs...: 48.207 (+ 1.462)
JASON ALDEAN - The Only Way I Kn...: 46.327 (+ 1.557)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN... - Thrift Shop: 41.975 (+ 2.038)
A$AP ROCKY - F**kin Problems f...: 39.472 (+ 1.607)
LUDACRIS F/USHER/... - Rest of My Life: 35.542 (+ 0.993)
JONN HART - Who Booty f/iamSU: 33.409 (+ 0.880)
TRAIN - Mermaid: 7.522 (+ 0.229)
IMAGINE DRAGONS - Radioactive: 6.757 (+ 0.196)
BLAKE SHELTON - Sure Be Cool If Y...: 5.081 (+ 1.433)
CARLY RAE JEPSEN - This Kiss: 2.664 (+ 0.147)
KE$HA - Supernatural: 0.098 (+ 0.013)
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Post by Ballroom Blitzed on Jan 6, 2013 17:11:59 GMT -5
Jukebox Jury: since this is the first time I've seen it included in these airplay updates I feel inclined to ask, how does everyone rate the Hot 100 prospects for "Carry On"? Hit or miss?
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 6, 2013 17:53:13 GMT -5
My point was 10,000 points in Billboard terms really isn't THAT huge of a difference, is it? I don't believe so. |
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Post by Soldado de Juguete on Jan 6, 2013 19:06:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 19:08:13 GMT -5
CARLY RAE JEPSEN - This Kiss: 2.664 (+ 0.147)  :'( |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 19:11:36 GMT -5
My point was 10,000 points in Billboard terms really isn't THAT huge of a difference, is it? It's a lot more than that which kept PSY out of #1 a few months ago. IIRC wasn't it something like 1 or 2,000 a couple of weeks, even <1,000 at least one week? Yes, there were multiple weeks where the difference was 500 points. |
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Post by kingofpain on Jan 6, 2013 21:17:04 GMT -5
It was very hard to watch the airplay favor always going to M5 when Psy missed out on #1 by a fraction of points even when it was the more popular song.
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Post by forg on Jan 6, 2013 21:32:02 GMT -5
Same question. It didn't have streaming points right? She just sold well enough plus competition back then was weak (Whistle) Didn't "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" top the Hot 100 with no streaming points? |
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Post by josh on Jan 6, 2013 21:44:08 GMT -5
Yes, back then there were no huge airplay and sales songs like earlier in the year - We Are Young, Somebody That I Used to Know, etc. (Blocking Justin from #1 was WAY). Taylor sold huge with WANEGBT, slightly bigger than IKYWT did this past week, plus #2 was muuuuuch farther behind, being a regular sales week, not Christmas. It had a decent amount of airplay, probably a little less than IKYWT has now, and the #1 airplay wasn't as big as Bruno. So she easily got #1, without streaming.
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 6, 2013 22:59:10 GMT -5
Which goes to show that, position wise, it all comes down to timing.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jan 7, 2013 6:17:42 GMT -5
^^Basically this. Timing & Luck. I guess Taylor had no luck coming against such a monster track like LOOH. It's strong in all three components. Btw. He DID IT. BRUNO MARS - Locked Out Of Heaven: 201.583 (+ 3.288)  |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jan 7, 2013 7:46:41 GMT -5
I guess Taylor had no luck coming against such a monster track like LOOH. It's strong in all three components. Eh. I don't think people should be too concerned for "I Knew You Were Trouble" at this point; the race most certainly isn't over. Taylor's single is shaping up to be a much bigger seller than "LOOH" (already nearly matching its total), not to mention she's chipping away at his airplay lead day by day (he'll likely be peaking before too long, which will only aid this process). If Big Machine releases the song to streaming outlets (which I am sure they before too long), it's a done deal. |
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Post by cesarams on Jan 7, 2013 8:24:15 GMT -5
MONDAY'S UPDATE:
TOP 20:
1. BRUNO MARS – Locked Out Of Heaven: 201.583 (+ 3.288)
2. RIHANNA – Diamonds: 177.373 (+ 0.246)
3. LUMINEERS – Ho Hey: 155.992 (+ 3.758)
4. MAROON 5 – One More Night: 141.486 (- 0.529)
5. FLO RIDA – I Cry: 125.034 (+ 2.087)
6. PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Home: 113.366 (+ 1.765)
7. JUSTIN BIEBER – Beauty And A Beat f/N. Minaj: 110.314 (+ 3.551)
8. NE-YO – Let Me Love You: 103.560 (- 0.510)
9. TAYLOR SWIFT – I Knew You Were Trouble: 103.404 (+ 4.275) ▲
10. PINK – Try: 102.618 (+ 1.744) ▼
11. FUN. – Some Nights: 95.999 (- 0.943)
12. KE$HA – Die Young: 94.216 (+ 0.290)
13. ED SHEERAN – The A Team: 92.438 (+ 1.831)
14. ALICIA KEYS – Girl On Fire: 84.366 (+ 1.844)
15. SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA – Don't You Worry Child: 82.965 (+ 2.743)
16. MIGUEL – Adorn: 74.902 (- 0.204)
17. ALEX CLARE – Too Close: 71.747 (+ 1.174)
18. PINK – Blow Me (One Last Kiss): 64.459 (- 0.460)
19. ZAC BROWN BAND – Goodbye In Her Eyes: 63.921 (+ 1.856) ▲
20. GOTYE – Somebody That I Used To Know: 62.652 (- 0.408) ▼
OTHERS:
IMAGINE DRAGONS – It's Time: 60.673 (+ 1.225)
PITBULL – Don't Stop The Party: 60.195 (+ 1.943)
KENDRICK LAMAR – Swimming Pools (Drank): 59.268 (+ 0.574)
WILL.I.AM & BRITNEY SPEARS – Scream And Shout: 59.059 (+ 3.172)
RANDY HOUSER – How Country Feels: 59.004 (+ 2.055)
JUSTIN MOORE – 'Til My Last Day: 57.534 (+ 0.270)
KELLY CLARKSON – Catch My Breath: 56.635 (+ 1.883)
CALVIN HARRIS – Sweet Nothing f/Florence Welch: 51.828 (+ 1.701)
MAROON 5 – Daylight: 47.531 (+ 1.882)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Thrift Shop f/Wanz: 43.650
MUMFORD & SONS – I Will Wait: 42.359 (+ 1.194)
OF MONSTERS AND MEN – Little Talks: 39.527 (+ 1.382)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Two Black Cadillacs: 35.707 (+ 1.601)
THE SCRIPT – Hall Of Fame f/will.i.am: 33.427 (+ 0.662)
KE$HA – C'mon: 33.397 (+ 2.045)
ONE DIRECTION – Little Things: 30.664 (+ 1.275)
MUSE – Madness: 24.363 (+ 0.238)
RIHANNA – Pour It Up: 16.511 (+ 0.555)
FUN. – Carry On: 12.201 (+ 0.676)
C. AGUILERA & B. SHELTON – Just A Fool: 5.028 (+ 0.184)
RIHANNA – Right Now f/David Guetta: 2.858 (+ 0.125)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 8:26:45 GMT -5
^Only with even bigger updates, due to the new AI formula. That'll probably be when Bruno breaks 200m.  It's kind of sad though that it's barely at 140 million on BDS though... Does anyone have a list of the top BDS peakers of the year? Have there been any above 150? |
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jan 7, 2013 8:51:42 GMT -5
MONDAY'S UPDATE: TOP 20: 1. BRUNO MARS – Locked Out Of Heaven: 201.583 (+ 3.288)There we go! |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 7, 2013 8:52:46 GMT -5
Can't believe "Too Close" is still seeing those kinds of gains (although it would be lower in BDS numbers).
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Post by divasummer on Jan 7, 2013 10:18:23 GMT -5
Just because a song dosen't go to num.1 in it's first month or so dosen't mean it still can't.
(I used to feel that way too sometimes at one time)
I'm assuming Taylor probably will reach the top in the next few weeks.
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Jan 7, 2013 10:24:58 GMT -5
Other airplay updates (1/7/2012)
Most are from Kworb and a few from Mediabase
GARY ALLAN - Every Storm (Runs...: 50.333 (+ 2.126)
JASON ALDEAN - The Only Way I Kn...: 48.593 (+ 2.267)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN... - Thrift Shop: 43.560 (+ 1.498)[/b]
A$AP ROCKY - F**kin Problems f...: 40.364 (+ 0.892)
LUDACRIS F/USHER/... - Rest of My Life: 38.235 (+ 2.693)
HUNTER HAYES - Somebody's Heartbrea...: 34.560 (+ 1.376)[/b]
JONN HART - Who Booty f/iamSU: 33.806 (+ 0.397)
FAITH HILL - American Heart: 13.852 (+ 1.317)
TRAIN - Mermaid: 7.750 (+ 0.228)
IMAGINE DRAGONS - Radioactive: 7.096 (+ 0.339)
BLAKE SHELTON - Sure Be Cool If Y...: 6.172 (+ 1.091)
CARLY RAE JEPSEN - This Kiss: 2.768 (+ 0.104)
KE$HA - Supernatural: 0.116 (+ 0.018)
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Jan 7, 2013 12:30:47 GMT -5
He did it :o I take it they changed the panels or formats again?
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jan 7, 2013 12:43:25 GMT -5
No. Re adjustments after the Christmas Freeze. Tomorrow should see a large rise for songs as well.
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Post by newpower99 on Jan 7, 2013 16:18:38 GMT -5
OFF TOPIC: but I found this little nugget on how Billboard is launching a new Dance/Electronic chart based similarly how the Hot 100 is calculated . Not sure if there is any new info here on the Hot 100 formula but Ill let you guys decipher the formula and how it relates to the Hot 100 chart. >>>>>>> www.djricomixshow.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=18334 Hello, Attached you will see a test chart for a bran d n ew ranking covering Dance/Electronic music titled Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, which blends radio audience impressions, digital download sales, streaming data and dance club play. The 50-position chart, which will rank songs designated as Dance/Electronic, is modeled after the Hot 100, and uses the same formula as that chart (and same radio panel of over 1,200 stations in all formats), with dance/club play added as an additional metric. PLEASE NOTE: This chart will be an addition to our Dance chart menu and will not replace any existing Dance chart. Similar to our long-standing Hot 100, and other genre hybrid charts launched recently, the purpose of this chart is to give an all-encompassing look at the most popular dance songs in the country. The definition of the chart is as follows: Dance/Electronic Songs: A ranking of the top dance titles based on the Hot 100 formula blending digital download sales, radio airplay, streaming data and reported dance club play by a national panel of DJs. Eligible titles must contain musical elements considered to be the predominant sound and tempo of current dance music in a significant portion of the recording. Dance remixes of established pop, rock, R&B, rap or titles of another genre woul d n ot make the song eligible for the chart, even if the title appears on the Dance Club Play or Dance/Mix Show Airplay chart based on those remixes. While there are songs in every genre that can inspire one to dance, the purpose of this chart is to highlight those songs inherently dance an d n ot easily identifiable as any other genre. A detailed description of the chart formula is below. Consider this email a start to an open dialogue about this new Dance chart. We are eager to hear you comments and questions, and are relying on your professional insights for guidance. We will be sending these test charts each week until launch, which we are targeting for mid-January. The attached document contains the top 50 titles and also includes a column to the far right indicating ranks for a proposed sub-chart of EDM-only tracks. If there is anyone else in your company who you feel should be receiving these weekly test charts, please forward their names to us and we will add them to our distribution list. We look forward to discussing this exciting new chapter on the Dance charts with you! DANCE/ELECTRONIC SONGS FORMULA: (same as Hot 100 formula, except for addition of Club Play) Download Sales and any available physical sales (divide by 12) Airplay (divide HOH BDS format actual audience impressions for Chart Reporters by 7,500) OR divide number found in Encore by 75 since that number is already divided by 100 On-Demand/Tethered Streaming (divide by 150) Radio Streaming (divide by 300) Club Play (divide points by 1.5) With this formula, 1 Download = 1,000 Audience impressions = 25 radio streams = 12.5 on-demand/tethered streams 8 Downloads = 1 Club Play point The formula results in a Target Ratio for the Hot 100 (the average of all 100 titles on the chart) of 40-45% sales, 40-45% radio and 15-20% streams, as the number will fluctuate slightly from week to week based on market conditions. Looking at a few weeks of test data, the ratio for the 50-position Dance/Electronic chart has been averaging 30-35% sales, 25-30% airplay, 25-30% streaming and 10-15% club play. Again, this is the chart average. Depending on the activity, some tracks have more points coming from streaming or club play and others much more coming from sales or airplay. Below are the streaming services that make up that portion of the chart: Hot 100 Streaming 10 Services: Vid/Aud Data Type Akoo Video On-Demand/Request Cricket Wireless/Muve Audio Tethered Plays Guvera Audio On-Demand Plays Medianet/MOG Audio On-Demand Plays Medianet/MOG Audio Tethered Plays Myspace Audio On-Demand Plays Rdio Audio On-Demand Plays (including non-DMCA radio) Rdio Audio Tethered Plays Rhapsody Audio On-Demand Plays Rhapsody Audio Tethered Plays Rhapsody Audio Radio Streaming Slacker Audio On-Demand Plays Slacker Audio Radio Streaming Spotify Audio On-Demand Plays (including non-DMCA radio) Xbox Music Audio On-Demand Plays Xbox Music Audio Tethered Plays **On-Demand and Tethered Plays are weighted to count twice as much as Radio Streaming. Billboard.com |
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jan 7, 2013 17:06:33 GMT -5
So if im reading this correctly Airplay and Sales are weighted equally after all.
so 200k sales = 200M AI
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 7, 2013 17:51:59 GMT -5
1 Download = 1,000 Audience impressions = 25 radio streams = 12.5 on-demand/tethered streams So... WTF are radio streams?  |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 7, 2013 18:14:17 GMT -5
Wow, did they just give out the complete Hot 100 formula?
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Post by WotUNeed on Jan 7, 2013 19:05:51 GMT -5
1 Download = 1,000 Audience impressions = 25 radio streams = 12.5 on-demand/tethered streams So... WTF are radio streams? Radio streams = passive streaming, where the listener is streaming music but not actively choosing which songs they are hearing. Slacker is one of the services listed in that post that provides passive streaming services. |
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 7, 2013 19:13:41 GMT -5
1 Download = 1,000 Audience impressions = 25 radio streams = 12.5 on-demand/tethered streams So... WTF are radio streams? Radio streams = passive streaming, where the listener is streaming music but not actively choosing which songs they are hearing. Slacker is one of the services listed in that post that provides passive streaming services. Oh! So like Pandora and Last.fm's radio stations. (Neither are monitored for the Hot 100, though.) I get it. |
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