Billboard Hot 100: 04/27/2013

[Deleted]

But you're forgetting 2 things

1. Less than the first 2 days count toward this weeks chart
2. Harlem Shake was getting more views than this, with the combined videos. Or very similar, at the least.

[Eqbk]

Yay! I was really pulling for Pink to be #1. I'm so happy she managed it even w/ all the potential obstacles this week.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

Apr 17, 2013 12:16:42 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Apr 17, 2013 9:11:14 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

I don't know of any song that went to #1 without significant sales in the days when singles were readily available. Even in the pre-soundscan era, songs would not go to #1 without being top 5 in sales points. Occasionally you would get an American Idol song going to #1, but that would only be for 1 maybe 2 weeks then it would disappear. When I talk about a song being popular I am talking about more than a few weeks.

Wasn't Mariah's "We Belong Together" #1 one week when it was all the way down at #19 in sales? It of course peaked higher than that in sales but that was a fairly significant disparity.

Yes, in the early days of digital downloads, "We'll Be Together" was #1 and around 19 or 20 on the sales chart. That was in 2005 when the #10 song wiould only sell about 20-25K a week.

[Rodze]

Great for Pink!

But Billboard still haven't made their article. I guess they're deciding where they should randomly put Psy.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

Pink probably got more than 50,000 chart points, so it is conceivable that Psy debuted at #2 or 3 without any change in the methodology. That is assuming up to 20 M YouTube views and 20,000 or so downloads on the weekend.

It would be nice if BB tweaked their formula, but I thought they would have done so a few weeks ago when Harlem Shake was only doing well on YouTube.

My guess is Psy could have a few weeks at the top starting next week, assuming he continues to get strong YouTube streaming activity and top 10 sales.

[Deleted]

If "Gentlemen" goes #1 after "Gangnam Style" failed to, the Hot 100 is REALLY going to look like a joke.

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2013 14:41:13 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

If "Gentlemen" goes #1 after "Gangnam Style" failed to, the Hot 100 is REALLY going to look like a joke.

I don't consider it that different of a situation than when like "Toxic" failed to go #1" but then "Womanizer", "3", and "Hold It Against Me" all did due to their initial hype.

[Duca]

1. BRUNO MARS – When I Was Your Man: 199.735 (-0.200)
2. RIHANNA – Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 165.606 (+1.803) ▲
3. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Suit & Tie: 163.102 (-1.228) ▼
4. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 123.030 (+3.002) ▲
5. MAROON 5 – Daylight: 122.101 (-1.379) ▼
6. PITBULL – Feel This Moment f/C. Aguilera: 122.068 (+0.986) ▼
7. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Thrift Shop f/Wanz: 114.778 (-1.605)
8. TAYLOR SWIFT – I Knew You Were Trouble: 97.731 (-0.910)
9. LUMINEERS – Ho Hey: 87.122 (-0.164)
10. CALVIN HARRIS – Sweet Nothing f/Florence Welch: 83.603 (-1.140)
11. SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA – Don’t You Worry Child: 79.851 (-1.514)
12. BRUNO MARS – Locked Out Of Heaven: 79.545 (-1.070)
13. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can’t Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 79.314 (+2.225) ▲
14. MUMFORD & SONS – I Will Wait: 78.687 (-0.977) ▼
15. RIHANNA – Pour It Up: 74.980 (-0.353)
16. DRAKE – Started From The Bottom: 73.278 (+0.182)
17. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 70.959 (+2.326) ▲
18. FUN. – Carry On: 69.469 (+0.192)▼
19. DEMI LOVATO – Heart Attack: 65.198 (+1.118) ▲
20. LADY ANTEBELLUM – Downtown: 65.129 (+0.326) ▼

KELLY CLARKSON – Catch My Breath: 64.224 (-0.059)
KREWELLA – Alive: 53.713 (-0.412)
OLLY MURS – Troublemaker f/Flo Rida: 52.750 (+0.454)
ICONA POP – I Love It f/Charli XCX: 49.648 (+1.361)
TAYLOR SWIFT – 22: 48.245 (+0.699)
EMELI SANDE – Next To Me: 41.960 (+0.343)
CHRIS BROWN – Fine China: 38.991 (+0.552)
TIM MCGRAW WITH TAYLOR SWIFT – Highway Don’t Care: 37.613 (+0.734)
BRAD PAISLEY – Beat This Summer: 36.394 (-0.123)
FALL OUT BOY – My Songs Know What You Did…: 35.169 (+0.072)
WILL.I.AM F/JUSTIN BIEBER – #thatpower: 34.438 (+1.250)
JUSTIN BIEBER – All Around The World: 30.959 (+0.074)
BLAKE SHELTON – Boys ‘Round Here: 29.671 (+0.835)
PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 22.044 (+0.460)
ARIANA GRANDE – The Way f/Mac Miller: 21.297 (+1.320)
SELENA GOMEZ – Come & Get It: 18.029 (+1.258)
AVRIL LAVIGNE – Here’s To Never Growing Up: 11.575 (+0.248)
CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 9.315 (+0.423)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 5.392 (+1.292)
KELLY CLARKSON – People Like Us: 4.694 (+0.569)

[crystalphnx]

P!nk Powers to No. 1 on Hot 100 with JGMAR[/u]

P!nk notches her fourth No. 1 on the on the Billboard Hot 100, as "Just Give Me a Reason," featuring fun.'s Nate Ruess, rises 3-1. Justin Timberlake and Demi Lovato, meanwhile, return to the top 10 with "Mirrors," and "Heart Attack," respectively, and PSY gallops onto the chart at No. 12 with "Gentleman," which has already set YouTube views records following its release last week.

"Reason" rules courtesy of across-the-board gains. It returns to No. 1 (2-1) on Hot Digital Songs for a third week on top with 283,000 downloads sold (up 1%), according to Nielsen SoundScan. It advances to the top five on Hot 100 Airplay (7-4), with its 20% increase to 97 million all-format audience impressions, according to Nielsen BDS, granting it top Airplay Gainer honors on the Hot 100 for a third consecutive week. On Streaming Songs, "Reason" rises 6-4 (4.6 million streams, up 16%, according to BDS).

P!nk first crowned the Hot 100 for five weeks beginning on June 2, 2001, with "Lady Marmalade," a collaboration with Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim and Mya. More than seven years later (Sept. 27, 2008), she returned to the summit with "So What." She again reigned with "Raise Your Glass" the week of Dec. 11, 2010.

Ruess, meanwhile, makes his second trip to the top of the Hot 100. A year ago this week, fun. was amid a six-week command with its breakout hit "We Are Young" (featuring Janelle Monae). With the ascent of "Reason" to No. 1, he becomes the first male singer of a rock band to tally a solo No. 1 since Matchbox Twenty's Rob Thomas assisted on Santana's "Smooth," which led for 12 weeks in late 1999/early 2000.

Justin Timberlake scores his second top 10 from his Billboard 200-topping album The 20/20 Experience, and 13th overall, as "Mirrors" climbs 12-7. The track returns to its peak to date on Hot Digital Songs (12-8; 127,000, up 10%); holds at No. 9 on Streaming Songs (3.5 million, up 1%); and roars 32-18 on Hot 100 Airplay (51 million, up 34%). Timberlake has now more than doubled his top 10 output on the Hot 100 as a member of 'N Sync, which tallied six top 10s in 1999-2002.

Demi Lovato likewise returns to the Hot 100's top bracket, as "Heart Attack" charges 15-10, besting its previous highest rank, set upon its debut at No. 12 six weeks ago. The release of the song's official video on April 9 spurs a 36-9 vault for the track on Streaming Songs (3.5 million, up 144%, granting it the top Digital Gainer award on the Hot 100). The cut advances 23-19 on Hot 100 Airplay (49 million, up 14%), while dipping 11-13 on Hot Digital Songs (where it debuted at No. 4) with 110,000 downloads sold (down 6%).

"Heart" marks Lovato's third Hot 100 top 10. Her first chart entry, "This Is Me," with Joe Jonas, reached No. 9 in 2008, while "Skyscraper" debuted and peaked at No. 10 in 2011. (Her 2012 Mainstream Top 40 No. 1 "Give Your Heart a Break" hit No. 16 on the Hot 100.) "Heart" ushers in her fourth album, DEMI, due May 14.

Just outside the Hot 100's top 10, K-Pop star PSY follows up his debut U.S. smash "Gangnam Style" with "Gentleman," which soars onto the chart at No. 12. It launches at No. 1 on Streaming Songs with 8.6 million streams registered in the U.S. in just shy of two days since its posting on Saturday (April 13). (Now up to 125 million YouTube views worldwide [as of this posting], the song set the mark for the most views [18.9 million] for a video in its first day on the site, according to sources at YouTube, as previously reported. The Hot 100, however, counts only U.S. views in its weekly tabulation.)

"Gentleman" also arrives with 27,000 downloads sold through the end of the SoundScan tracking week on Sunday night (April 14) following its digital release on April 12. Following its first full week of streaming and retail availability, the song could storm the Hot 100's top 10 next week.

"Gangnam Style" became the first video ever to reach 1 billion views worldwide. It now stands at 1.5 billion. The song peaked at No. 2 on the Hot 100 for seven weeks last fall (before YouTube data began contributing to the chart) and has sold 4.5 million downloads.

Back in the Hot 100's top 10, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis' "Thrift Shop," featuring Wanz, holds at No. 2 after logging six nonconsecutive weeks at No. 1. It rules Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs for a 14th week and the subscription services-based On-Demand Songs chart for a 13th frame. The pair concurrently climbs 7-5 on the Hot 100 with follow-up "Can't Hold Us," featuring Ray Dalton (7-5) to become the first multi-member act to place two titles in the chart's top five since the Black Eyed Peas did so for five weeks in June/July 2009. (Among all acts, Taylor Swift had last doubled up in the top five the week of Oct. 27, 2012.)

Bruno Mars' "When I Was Your Man" falls to No. 3 on the Hot 100 after rising 2-1 last week. The ballad spends a fourth week atop Hot 100 Airplay (149 million, down less than 1%) but slides 3-4 on Streaming Songs (4.7 million, down 3%) and 1-6 after a week atop Hot Digital Songs; "Man" tumbles by 51% to 166,000 downloads sold after it returned to its regular retail price of $1.29 following its discount to 69 cents the prior week.

Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Rihanna's "Stay," featuring Mikky Ekko, is a non-mover at No. 4; Timberlake's "Suit & Tie," featuring Jay-Z, descends 5-6; Pitbull's "Feel This Moment," featuring Aguilera (10-8), returns to its peak so far (and ascends 2-1 on the Dance/Electronic Songs chart, dethroning Baauer's "Harlem Shake" after eight weeks at No. 1); and Drake's "Started From the Bottom" is stationary at No. 9. The latter two songs each pass a million in sales to date.

www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/chart-alert/1558438/pnk-powers-to-no-1-on-hot-100-with-just-give-me-a-reason

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

It's so funny that Billboard's decision to include YouTube points is a make or break for Psy in North America from being labeled a one-hit-wonder. Without YT, the song likely wouldn't make the Hot 100. With it, it could be #1 this week or next week. That's a huge difference. Without it, he doesn't have a "hit". With it, he has a big "hit". It's just odd to think about it in such grand terms. Billboard is the deciding factor even if absolutely nothing else changes. Without YT in the Hot 100, Psy would still have MILLIONS of views and tons of press and attention but not an actual "hit" because the sales and airplay aren't there (yet - if ever).

I hope he gets there just because the drama that happens every time it happens is amusing. But I also want Pink to get it too so Psy can wait.

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Apr 17, 2013 14:44:12 GMT -5 @xiivi said:

Apr 17, 2013 14:41:13 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

If "Gentlemen" goes #1 after "Gangnam Style" failed to, the Hot 100 is REALLY going to look like a joke.

I don't consider it that different of a situation than when like "Toxic" failed to go #1" but then "Womanizer", "3", and "Hold It Against Me" all did due to their initial hype.

Except they were all big radio hits, and sometimes that happens. I have a feeling Psy will still be regarded as a one-hit wonder. I don't see "Gentlemen" being a radio smash. It would be weird for his sound-alike follow-up to be the one that went to #1 if it has the tepid radio response "Harlem Shake" got.

[#LisaRinna]

Yasss P!nk! Congrats girl

[Au$tin]

Note: Just because you have two hits on the Hot 100 does not mean you still won't be classified as a one hit wonder. The measure of that is how many of said hits are remembered after an extended period of time has passed. See: Leona Lewis.

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Apr 17, 2013 14:10:39 GMT -5 Codex said:

Why would they have changed the rules? It was pretty obvious Psy wouldn't be #1 from 2 days of Youtube... Maybe it debuted #8 or so, but it will only be #1 next week (at the very most)

Just outside the Hot 100's top 10, K-Pop star PSY follows up his debut U.S. smash "Gangnam Style" with "Gentleman," which soars onto the chart at No. 12. It launches at No. 1 on Streaming Songs with 8.6 million streams registered in the U.S. in just shy of two days since its posting on Saturday (April 13). (Now up to 125 million YouTube views worldwide [as of this posting], the song set the mark for the most views [18.9 million] for a video in its first day on the site, according to sources at YouTube, as previously reported. The Hot 100, however, counts only U.S. views in its weekly tabulation.)

"Gentleman" also arrives with 27,000 downloads sold through the end of the SoundScan tracking week on Sunday night (April 14) following its digital release on April 12. Following its first full week of streaming and retail availability, the song could storm the Hot 100's top 10 next week.

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Almost got it, #12 Wait so only 8.6 out of ~40 million views were from the US? :o

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2013 14:50:42 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

It's so funny that Billboard's decision to include YouTube points is a make or break for Psy in North America from being labeled a one-hit-wonder. Without YT, the song likely wouldn't make the Hot 100. With it, it could be #1 this week or next week. That's a huge difference. Without it, he doesn't have a "hit". With it, he has a big "hit". It's just odd to think about it in such grand terms. Billboard is the deciding factor even if absolutely nothing else changes. Without YT in the Hot 100, Psy would still have MILLIONS of views and tons of press and attention but not an actual "hit" because the sales and airplay aren't there (yet - if ever).

I hope he gets there just because the drama that happens every time it happens is amusing. But I also want Pink to get it too so Psy can wait.

Why should the definition of "hit" only include sales and airplay? Why does it have to include those components at all?

The one-hit wonder label applied to acts who are still charting with their first hit comes from message boards such as this one. Generally enough time needs to elapse that it is obvious a one-hit artist won't have a second hit before the label 'one-hit wonder' means anything.

Like it or not - youtube is a means of 'consuming' music. Psy now has 2 hit songs. Not a number less than two. Billboard was just late to the party in recognizing one of them, otherwise Psy would soon be scoring a second #1.

Youtube influences sales. Gangnam Style amd Harlem Shake were big sales hits because of youtube. Gentlemen is now as well.

[Duca]

Justin Timberlake scores his second top 10 from his Billboard 200-topping album "The 20/20 Experience," and 13th overall, as "Mirrors" climbs 12-7. The track returns to its peak to date on Digital Songs (12-8; 127,000, up 10%); holds at No. 9 on Streaming Songs (3.5 million, up 1%); and roars 32-18 on Radio Songs (51 million, up 34%). Timberlake has now more than doubled his top 10 output on the Hot 100 as a member of 'N Sync, which tallied six top 10s in 1999-2002. Timberlake's "Suit & Tie" descends 5-6. "The 20/20 Experience" is already the best-selling album of 2013 so far -- its current sales sit at 1.52 million, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

LEGEND. What was the last R&B album to produce multiple top 10 hits? And what about the last R&B album to have multiple singles in the top 10 at the same time?

[Rodze]

Apr 17, 2013 15:01:36 GMT -5 Codex said:

Almost got it, #12 Wait so only 8.6 out of ~40 million views were from the US? :o

This was supposedly the first 24 hours breakdown of views (24.1 million total).

United States | 3,798,871 | 15.71%
South Korea | 3,575,667 | 14.79%
Brazil | 1,411,208 | 5.84%
Mexico | 1,004,485 | 4.15%
Canada | 969,601 | 4.01%
France | 760,123 | 3.14%
United Kingdom | 724,971 | 3.00%
Taiwan | 680,251 | 2.81%
Vietnam | 659,529 | 2.73%
Malaysia | 587,584 | 2.43%

US was no. 1, but "only" 16%.

Considering it had over 50 million views by the end of Sunday (I don't know the exact number), 50 * 0.16 = 8 million, which indicates the rate remained the same for the rest last week.

[KeepDeanWeird]

I remember at MTV awards - Chris Rock was making a joke about "What Ricky Martin really needs now is - another hit!" The camera was on Ricky and he had a weird look on his face. Probably because "She's All I Ever Had" had hit #2 a couple of weeks earlier. However, LLVL was SO huge - that it made him seem like a "one-hit" English wonder. It has happened many times before, e.g. MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice who had Top 10 hits after their signature hit, but nobody remembers those.

[Deleted]

Congratulations to P!nk and Nate Ruess on their #1 hit!

[jasontoralba]

Apr 17, 2013 15:01:36 GMT -5 Codex said:

Wait so only 8.6 out of ~40 million views were from the US? :o

yes. and we're expecting 15-25 million U.S. Youtube streams that lead us to multi-page discussion :)

[Daniel Collins]

Apr 17, 2013 15:23:36 GMT -5 jasontoralba said:

Apr 17, 2013 15:01:36 GMT -5 Codex said:

Wait so only 8.6 out of ~40 million views were from the US? :o

yes. and we're expecting 15-25 million U.S. Youtube streams that lead us to multi-page discussion :)

It could happen next week.

[crystalphnx]

Apr 17, 2013 15:15:14 GMT -5 Duca said:

LEGEND. What was the last R&B album to produce multiple top 10 hits? And what about the last R&B album to have multiple singles in the top 10 at the same time?

I believe Mariah held down the top 2 spots on the Hot 100 for at least one week in 2005 with "We Belong Together" and "Shake It Off".

genre classifcations can be tricky, though. does I Am...Sasha Fierce count as R&B? that had 4 Top 10's, but "Sweet Dreams" certainly wasn't an R&B song.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

So BB did not change its' methodology, as "Gentleman" probably garnered 23,000+ chart points. Its' US YouTube views were a bit lower than what I was anticipating.

Pink is comfortably over 51,000 by my rough calculations. The next couple of weeks should see JGMAR, "Gentleman" and "Can't Hold Us" fighting for the top spot.

[RadioBeatz]

...and just like that "Harlem Shake" is gone.

Congrats to P!nk and Nate Ruess! totally deserved.

So yeah most of Psy's views are outside the US. I'm surprised the song is not doing that good in sales in America..

UGH, those people that comment at Billboard are idiots, WTF with their spamming and stupidity? >:(

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2013 15:28:37 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

So BB did not change its' methodology, as "Gentleman" probably garnered 23,000+ chart points. Its' US YouTube views were a bit lower than what I was anticipating.

Pink is comfortably over 51,000 by my rough calculations. The next couple of weeks should see JGMAR, "Gentleman" and "Can't Hold Us" fighting for the top spot.

I don't think it was ever going to.

Major changes don't occur on a monthly basis usually

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Apr 17, 2013 14:50:42 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

It's so funny that Billboard's decision to include YouTube points is a make or break for Psy in North America from being labeled a one-hit-wonder. Without YT, the song likely wouldn't make the Hot 100. With it, it could be #1 this week or next week. That's a huge difference. Without it, he doesn't have a "hit". With it, he has a big "hit". It's just odd to think about it in such grand terms. Billboard is the deciding factor even if absolutely nothing else changes. Without YT in the Hot 100, Psy would still have MILLIONS of views and tons of press and attention but not an actual "hit" because the sales and airplay aren't there (yet - if ever).

I hope he gets there just because the drama that happens every time it happens is amusing. But I also want Pink to get it too so Psy can wait.

it gives people more power over what they listen to.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Apr 17, 2013 15:30:31 GMT -5 @2m said:

Apr 17, 2013 15:28:37 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

So BB did not change its' methodology, as "Gentleman" probably garnered 23,000+ chart points. Its' US YouTube views were a bit lower than what I was anticipating.

Pink is comfortably over 51,000 by my rough calculations. The next couple of weeks should see JGMAR, "Gentleman" and "Can't Hold Us" fighting for the top spot.

I don't think it was ever going to.

Major changes don't occur on a monthly basis usually

8.6x7= 60million PSY could be #1 with streaming alone. I love the new rule. Radio politics get in the way and youtube is an equalizer.

[Deleted]

8.6 was for two days though, so it'd be more like 8.6 x 3.5 = 30 million. More if we count that it's a bit less than two days, and the first day was the slowest so far, so 35-37 million seems more realistic

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Apr 17, 2013 15:29:41 GMT -5 RadioBeatz said:

So yeah most of Psy's views are outside the US. I'm surprised the song is not doing that good in sales in America..

I'm not surprised. It makes sense that it'll be doing worse in sales in a country where it's getting the least views (in regards to overall population)

[Au$tin]

Apr 17, 2013 15:37:14 GMT -5 Codex said:

8.6 was for two days though, so it'd be more like 8.6 x 3.5 = 30 million. More if we count that it's a bit less than two days, and the first day was the slowest so far, so 35-37 million seems more realistic

I'd probably even estimate the number of views to be smaller by the end of the week's tracking period. So 25-30 million seems pretty likely. May or may not be enough for #1 depending on sales and airplay of it and the other songs around it. Definitely looking for a top 3 placement next week, though.