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Post by trumandare on Apr 15, 2013 12:59:27 GMT -5
his new single is a piece of crap
it will flop
i thought he is an educated guy who knows what he does but this is not the case
his new song sounds like a cheap parody of GS
of course the first days people will watch the video but then they will lose interest
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Post by brucelover on Apr 15, 2013 13:23:31 GMT -5
Considering it's only #18 on iTunes most of the views are probably not from the US....he's selling way better in a lot of other countries (it's Top 10 in Netherlands, the UK, Switzerland, Canada to name a few).
With a bit of luck he *might* manage a Top 10 debut....but they really should have released the video on Monday to capitalize on a full week.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 15, 2013 13:37:05 GMT -5
Considering it's only #18 on iTunes most of the views are probably not from the US....he's selling way better in a lot of other countries (it's Top 10 in Netherlands, the UK, Switzerland, Canada to name a few). With a bit of luck he *might* manage a Top 10 debut....but they really should have released the video on Monday to capitalize on a full week. #18 on Itunes after more than 2 days of release and it is the follow-up to one of the biggest songs of 2012. Avril Lavigne's latest was #10 by that time (if my memory serves me right), and she has not had a major hit in eons. Youtube weighting (all passive listening weights for that matter) should not be the near 20x that of radio airplay it is now, it really skews the HOT100's results. BB"s release of the HOT 100 results on Wednesday should be more interesting then usual. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 15, 2013 14:18:53 GMT -5
his new single is a piece of crap it will flop i thought he is an educated guy who knows what he does but this is not the case his new song sounds like a cheap parody of GS of course the first days people will watch the video but then they will lose interest Based on his success for the last decade and his newfound worldwide fame, I'd say his intelligence is working in favour and he knows exactly what he's doing. You disliking someone =/= someone being uneducated. |
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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 15, 2013 18:29:15 GMT -5
oh, YouTube...making the Hot 100 much trickier to predict! I think the uncertainty of it all is a bit fun though, eh? ;)
personally, I'd prefer to see P!nk on top this week, and then PSY can take over next week. once "Gentleman" fizzles out (if sales don't pick up and it ends up relying almost exclusively on streaming points, that shouldn't take TOO long), I wouldn't mind watching "Can't Hold Us" and "Mirrors" duke it out for a while. maybe "Stay" can sneak in a discount-fueled week on top sometime too...?
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Post by velaxti on Apr 15, 2013 21:02:10 GMT -5
If PSY gets #1 the week after next, it'll be the first dance song to get to #1 on the Hot 100 since We Found Love about 15 months ago!
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Apr 15, 2013 23:44:27 GMT -5
his new single is a piece of crap it will flop i thought he is an educated guy who knows what he does but this is not the case his new song sounds like a cheap parody of GS of course the first days people will watch the video but then they will lose interest keep your hope alive. Its all you have. The new single is catchier than the first one. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 6:28:40 GMT -5
PSY’s 'Gentleman' Hits 62 Million Views In Three Days, Sets YouTube Record
PSY is proving he’s more than a one hit wonder as the official music video for his newest release, “Gentleman,” soared past 70 million YouTube views Monday, in its third day of availability.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 6:37:47 GMT -5
If PSY gets #1 the week after next, it'll be the first dance song to get to #1 on the Hot 100 since We Found Love Harlem Shake about 15 months days ago! I fixed your post |
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Post by Duca on Apr 16, 2013 6:54:12 GMT -5
1. BRUNO MARS – When I Was Your Man: 199.935 (-0.496)
2. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Suit & Tie: 164.330 (-1.415)
3. RIHANNA – Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 163.803 (+1.656)
4. MAROON 5 – Daylight: 123.480 (-0.865)
5. PITBULL – Feel This Moment f/C. Aguilera: 121.082 (+1.231)
6. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 120.028 (+2.621) ▲
7. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Thrift Shop f/Wanz: 116.383 (-1.322) ▼
8. TAYLOR SWIFT – I Knew You Were Trouble: 98.641 (-1.640)
9. LUMINEERS – Ho Hey: 87.286 (-1.162)
10. CALVIN HARRIS – Sweet Nothing f/Florence Welch: 84.743 (-0.894)
11. SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA – Don’t You Worry Child: 81.365 (-0.365)
12. BRUNO MARS – Locked Out Of Heaven: 80.615 (-0.951)
13. MUMFORD & SONS – I Will Wait: 79.664 (-1.326)
14. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can’t Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 77.089 (+2.774) ▲
15. RIHANNA – Pour It Up: 75.333 (-0.466) ▼
16. DRAKE – Started From The Bottom: 73.096 (-0.008)
17. FUN. – Carry On: 69.277 (-0.147)
18. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 68.633 (+2.052)
19. LADY ANTEBELLUM – Downtown: 64.803 (+0.394) ▲
20. KELLY CLARKSON – Catch My Breath: 64.283 (-0.472) ▼
DEMI LOVATO – Heart Attack: 64.080 (+1.179)
WILL.I.AM & BRITNEY SPEARS – Scream And Shout: 60.192 (-1.791)
KREWELLA – Alive: 54.125 (-0.006)
OLLY MURS – Troublemaker f/Flo Rida: 52.296 (-0.076)
ICONA POP – I Love It f/Charli XCX: 48.287 (+1.459)
TAYLOR SWIFT – 22: 47.546 (+1.021)
EMELI SANDE – Next To Me: 41.617 (+0.415)
CHRIS BROWN – Fine China: 38.439 (+1.209)
TIM MCGRAW WITH TAYLOR SWIFT – Highway Don’t Care: 36.879 (+0.760)
BRAD PAISLEY – Beat This Summer: 36.517 (+0.140)
FALL OUT BOY – My Songs Know What You Did…: 35.097 (+0.190)
WILL.I.AM F/JUSTIN BIEBER – #thatpower: 33.188 (+1.243)
JUSTIN BIEBER – All Around The World: 30.885 (+0.340)
BLAKE SHELTON – Boys ‘Round Here: 28.836 (+0.656)
PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 21.584 (+0.540)
ARIANA GRANDE – The Way f/Mac Miller: 19.977 (+1.403)
SELENA GOMEZ – Come & Get It: 16.771 (+0.575)
AVRIL LAVIGNE – Here’s To Never Growing Up: 11.327 (+1.735)
ALICIA KEYS – Fire We Make: 10.612
AVICII VS NICKY ROMERO – I Could Be The One: 9.243
CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 8.892 (+0.212)
KELLY CLARKSON – People Like Us: 4.125 (+0.446)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 4.100 (+0.847)
DAVID GUETTA – Play Hard f/Ne-Yo & Akon: 0.646
FANTASIA – Without Me f/Kelly Rowland: 0.465
PSY – Gentleman: 0.100
EMBLEM3 – Chloe (You’re The One I Want): 0.090
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Post by jebsib on Apr 16, 2013 8:25:24 GMT -5
You may not agree with the percentage breakdowns in their formula, but we live in a world now where the people clamoring for ONLY an airplay Hot 100 or ONLY a sales Hot 100 are looking more and more out of touch.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 16, 2013 10:17:21 GMT -5
I think one of the big issues is how much weight user-submitted videos carry on YouTube. Official videos (whether label-uploaded or not) and/or artist performances should carry more weight than, say, a video I put up of me doing "The Chicken Dance."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 10:20:53 GMT -5
So if someone puts up an unofficial lyric video and it gets 230 million views, it shouldn't count because it's not official? Most unofficial videos are lyric videos, since covers/parodies don't count. |
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 16, 2013 10:22:26 GMT -5
I am looking forward to Billboard's spin if "Gentleman" debuts at #1. Unlike the rest of the world, it still has not managed to get into the top 10 on Itunes in the US. "Harlem Shake" was a more immediate sales success. Not sure if "Gentleman" is available for on-demand streaming in the US, but an out-of-the-box high placement on the on-demand chart would give further evidence of its' popularity (as opposed to its' notoriety).
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 16, 2013 10:24:43 GMT -5
That's a crazy amount of views for a lyric video (remember that all of that wouldn't be U.S., anyhow).
Let me expand- I think any audio should carry more weight than videos where the song is used in the background, and/or features acts other than the performer who recorded it. How's that? :)
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 16, 2013 10:28:37 GMT -5
So if someone puts up an unofficial lyric video and it gets 230 million views, it shouldn't count because it's not official? Most unofficial videos are lyric videos, since covers/parodies don't count. If it is the whole song and it is not violating any copyright laws, then it should count. I sometimes watch the lyric only videos on YouTube if I like the lyrics of a song (that is rare, I think most lyrics are s**t, my brain usually interprets the voice as another instrument). I personally would not weight YouTube views and other passive streaming more than 3x radio airplay. Even so 20 million YouTube views would still equal 8,000 chart points, which is 96,000 downloads, or 60 million AI on radio. YouTube is a popular way to consume music, but the vast majority of people of all ages still consume music through the radio (usually in the car or at work). |
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 16, 2013 10:29:17 GMT -5
Not sure if "Gentleman" is available for on-demand streaming in the US I believe it's not. |
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Post by imbondz on Apr 16, 2013 12:43:30 GMT -5
I will laugh and love it if Gentlemen debuts at #1. It will be a much worse travesty than Harlem Shake debuting at #1. It will be a joke and ridiculous even if it debuts in the top 5 tho. Billboard has officially jumped the shark.
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Post by josh on Apr 16, 2013 13:11:46 GMT -5
Worse than Harlem Shake being #1 how?
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Post by Arabella21 on Apr 16, 2013 13:19:30 GMT -5
The Billboard spin will be hilarious if "Gentlemen" as #1 happens. I am cool with Youtube counting for the Hot 100 but the formula needs some adjustments (as do the other genre charts but that's a whole other rant). What would have been really funny is if "When I Was Your Man" had been discounted to get the #1 for this chart week, only to be thwarted by PSY.
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 16, 2013 13:33:34 GMT -5
What would have been really funny is if " If I Was Your Man" had been discounted to get the #1 for this chart week, only to be thwarted by PSY. |
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Post by Arabella21 on Apr 16, 2013 13:36:46 GMT -5
What would have been really funny is if " If I Was Your Man" had been discounted to get the #1 for this chart week, only to be thwarted by PSY. LOL, I had a feeling the title was wrong, but oh well. I do wonder how long it will be before Billboard announces yet another chart adjustment. Weeks? Months? Until the next Billboard chart year begins? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 13:37:24 GMT -5
I think it'd be funny if the Hot 100 this week was something like:
1. TS
2. WIWYM
3. Gentleman
4. JGMAR
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Apr 16, 2013 13:37:58 GMT -5
What would have been really funny is if " If I Was Your Man" had been discounted to get the #1 for this chart week, only to be thwarted by PSY.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 16, 2013 13:49:04 GMT -5
I think it'd be funny if the Hot 100 this week was something like: 1. TS 2. WIWYM 3. Gentleman 4. JGMAR If that was the end result I would be demanding a forensic audit! I can't think of any scenario that would get TS back to #1. |
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 16, 2013 13:49:44 GMT -5
I can't think of any scenario that would get TS back to #1. Never rule out a surprise methodology change! |
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 16, 2013 13:54:46 GMT -5
Worse than Harlem Shake being #1 how? To my mind it is worse because Harlem Shake came out of nowhere to peak at #2 in its' first week, while "Gentleman" is still trying to get into the top 10. "Gentleman" though does not have the benefit of the 30 second memes that "Harlem Shake" had. I don't think a song has ever debuted at #1 on the HOT100 without at least a top 3 placing on the sales chart. "Gentleman" could be the first. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 13:56:26 GMT -5
I can't think of any scenario that would get TS back to #1. Never rule out a surprise methodology change! New rule! Songs with the most weeks with #1 in the current calendar year get extra chart points. :kii: |
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 16, 2013 14:04:55 GMT -5
Never rule out a surprise methodology change! New rule! Songs with the most weeks with #1 in the current calendar year get extra chart points.  I still want them to combine the songs and albums charts. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 14:07:34 GMT -5
New rule! Songs with the most weeks with #1 in the current calendar year get extra chart points. I still want them to combine the songs and albums charts. I'd rather they remove all recurrency rules first. |
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