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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 14:32:45 GMT -5
i can't speak for kurt but i'm the same role/flavor. but since all i get is a home/not home report, there's really nothing left of usefulness for me to do, since all it does is tell you if someone is an active power role, and everyone that is currently alive has role-claimed (except kurt whose role was revealed when he was killed, and landmarx curiously, not that i'd learn anything from checking him). i guess i just double-check people to make sure they're doing something? idk. i probably won't bother with it anymore.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 14:39:11 GMT -5
oh, and yeah, i think we can still discuss who we want to vote for. idk yet, personally. i'm still trying to figure out if max is going to die before day 3 ends, or if the day 3 lynch happens and then max dies, or if max is just going to be ~revived~ making the whole thing a moot point. i probably won't vote for him simply out of curiosity. i want to see how the curse i put on him is going to work (or not).
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 20, 2013 14:45:19 GMT -5
It seems to me that roles and abilities don't matter anymore. We're getting out of this with sheer luck and coincidence. I'd almost day we should just pick one person to vote on from here to the end of the game and narrow it down that way. No other information makes sense. And if you want to start with me as the target, go ahead. I just think that all of the information being given to us seems pointless when people are killed and resurrected out of nowhere. It's like we're in the hunger games stadium and we aren't entertaining enough for the mods so they change something else.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 14:58:02 GMT -5
Yassss Kurt.
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Post by nick64 on May 20, 2013 15:06:46 GMT -5
Kurt, what was the "connection" you found between me and Nightfire? Unless you were talking about Kunt saying he wasn't getting scum vibes from me.
Anyway, I wouldn't trust those that were revived quite yet. My double vote would have been a horrible reason for investigating me since we confirmed many times that it was for solving Rule 33...
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Post by nick64 on May 20, 2013 15:07:13 GMT -5
And Landmarx, what are you even talking about lol?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 15:15:56 GMT -5
Up and quitting doesn't really seem to work, unless that's how you win. Death in release, or some kind of Jodi Arias logic like that. Anyway, I'd like to lynch Cynthia or Kurt purely for having the satisfaction of knowing if my theory is even plausible, but then I think most people probably think I'm insane and making this game more bastard than it actually is in my head. Assuming Max is still going to die (because NERD ALERT: in Pokémon, Curse effects are only cured when you switch out, but since there's no replacements at this time...), he'll be killed with only about 5 hours to spare and honestly I don't trust us to have the ability to decide on a lynch even if he flips one or the other. I'm assuming he's just going to die. That leaves Az, Nick, Landmarx, Slizzard, and Kuntfire as potential options for a lynch. I personally feel I am town, however I'm not 100% sure because this game trolls so hard. I have no reason to believe any of the people who were administered their respective roles were lied to though, only results. That in mind, the only reason I am to believe results were fabricated are because Cynthia's report on ry4n N1 showed that he was not home (iirc); I'm not sure I believe Max or Nick actually had the reports they say they do, as previously stated. Even if they did receive said reports, that just further reiterates that the roles are full of shit. I think the fact both of them have highlighted the whole "the roles are lies!" idea looks even more dubious. Slizzard's claim I believe as well, because why, other than being one hell of a scum gambit. Az had unusual play in the beginning of the game, but seems to genuinely be looking out for town's interest... I think? He hasn't contribute a whole lot of anything regarding theories or analysis of the game, players, or otherwise short of "I think X is town, I think X is scum". Based purely on what I observed last green room, I assumed him to be a much more forceful player so this is usual to me. Landmarx... lol. Possibly independent, but only because he's hoping no one will suspect him for playing like he did last game. Which honestly might be such a stupid tactic that we'd buy it. Or I'm just stupid for suggesting it. He's really a tossup. Honestly, I'm most confident in Nick at this point. Not because of Kurt's suggestion at all (like Cynthia's it could have been fabricated by the mods) but whether Nick claims to see the benefit in it or not-- I don't think we ever actually argued the same point that his claims benefited both himself and Max, because they would get him off the hook while simultaneously distancing themselves-- I think it's there. This could be another instance of tunnel vision on my part, so I'm welcome to other alternatives. Anyway, I wouldn't trust those that were revived quite yet. YASSS #TEAMNICKUNTFIRE My double vote would have been a horrible reason for investigating me since we confirmed many times that it was for solving Rule 33... I actually see the merit in it, and if he's scum now, he's a genius. It would be risky for scum to have a double voter on their side, so he could have justifiably checked you as a precaution.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 15:29:02 GMT -5
wait no #Kuntfire64 is a much better name silly me.
@mod: how much would it cost to trade in our #Kuntfire64 for a Kuntfire GameCube?
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Post by Kurt on May 20, 2013 15:29:39 GMT -5
Kunt: I lost the Cop ability--I'm apparently Strawberry Shortcake Townie now. Kurt, what was the "connection" you found between me and Nightfire? Unless you were talking about Kunt saying he wasn't getting scum vibes from me. Anyway, I wouldn't trust those that were revived quite yet. My double vote would have been a horrible reason for investigating me since we confirmed many times that it was for solving Rule 33... Like I said, I don't remember exactly, but I could have sworn it was something involving one of Nightfire's posts early D2 that caught my eye. I'll go find it in a bit. Maybe. I'll probably forget as usual.
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Post by nick64 on May 20, 2013 15:33:55 GMT -5
Okay if that was really his intention then yes that would make sense. wait no #Kuntfire64 is a much better name silly me. @mod: how much would it cost to trade in our #Kuntfire64 for a Kuntfire GameCube?64>>>GameCube Are you saying you'd like to replace me with a different game system? </3
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Post by josh on May 20, 2013 15:35:48 GMT -5
#Mod: Both of your (Hellfire's) heads and 27 goats.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 15:57:32 GMT -5
@mod: do we die in this scenario?
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Post by josh on May 20, 2013 15:59:19 GMT -5
#Mod: Yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 16:04:04 GMT -5
@mod: will the wine I mentioned earlier work? My folks are moving and already packed the wine glasses, so you'll have to drink it out of a mug with my dad's business logo on it. Just fyi.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 16:13:09 GMT -5
Oh but yeah no I totally buy that Kurt got downgraded but Cynthia kept her role and is just opting not to use it.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 20, 2013 19:19:52 GMT -5
Wanna make sure I don't get prodded here either. Knowing Josh there'd be additional consequences.
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Post by Lozzy on May 20, 2013 19:33:37 GMT -5
Eh, guess I should prod-avoid-post too
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 21:07:50 GMT -5
@mod: will the wine I mentioned earlier work? My folks are moving and already packed the wine glasses, so you'll have to drink it out of a mug with my dad's business logo on it. Just fyi. #Mod: Nope. No more questions from you; you obviously know too much~. The Kunt head of Hellfire can no longer post for the Day. As a consolation prize the Nightfire head can post freely now. For any future days the Kunt head can only post thrice.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 21:12:50 GMT -5
Oh, thank goodness. Will post after I get my financial aid stuff all sorted out.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 21:22:02 GMT -5
i had completely forgotten nightfire was post-restricted Oh but yeah no I totally buy that Kurt got downgraded but Cynthia kept her role and is just opting not to use it. idk what's up with that either tbh. my immediate - well, my only - guess was that something is up with the fact that i was brought back in an hour, while kurt has been dead for idk, two IRL days or something like that...like they had time to figure out what the point in bringing kurt back was but with me it was just an 'oh, nvmd, we didn't really mean to kill you off, welcome back kotter!' seems sloppy on josh's part imo but whatever, it's his game and i'm unfortunately still living in it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 21:51:12 GMT -5
- Okay, first of all, the whole jback modkill was HILARIOUS LMFAO (sorry, had to get that out of my system)
- Alright, the first thing that actually confuses me is why it was just Kurt and Cynthia who were saved. Kurt has been dead for several real-life days, but why was he chosen instead of someone like Krhazy who wasn't even able to participate? I just don't understand, especially since they both still have votes, leading me to believe that they're going to stay for good (at least until they die for another reason lmao)
- Another thing that I'm anxiously anticipating is the death of Max to see what he flips. Then again, I'm not even sure if the mods are being totally honest with us, so there's one little obstacle I see. I think that it's something we're just going to have to keep in mind, but there's not really much we can do about it, so I think the best bet is to just trust the moderators because if they're lying to us in the death scenes, we're basically fucked anyway.
- I don't think I was here for Slizzard's reveal either (right?), but I don't even know what to do there. If we lynch him, he wins (assuming he's being honest), but it could either end the game or he could be a joint winner (I think it was Kunt who said that). I honestly couldn't care less if he wins since I just want to win a game for once, so I think it's probably best if we leave him be because he'll automatically lose when it's just the town left. That being said, the game hasn't ended yet. We must have at least one more scum since Slizzard would die off if there wasn't, right? I'm sort of confused on how the jester thing works, but I think that's how it goes.
- I also think that there's more than one faction. That's coming from the fact that both jback and Heartbreak flipped as godfathers. I checked the mafiascum website, and it didn't say anything about number of godfathers per faction, but coming from Mitch logic from watching mafia movies, there's only one godfather per faction. We may have wiped out one faction with the whole Codex deal. I'm thinking the other scum (maybe last one? idk) is from a faction other than Codex, and that person is the only one left. That would make 5 independent/mafia/assholes/whatever: Codex, jback, Heartbreak, Slizzard, and this mystery person. I actually have a pretty good idea on who that may be because of the next bullet point:
- As of the last vote count, Nick still has two votes. This is really strange, seeing as how every other person's temporary powers have expired. I'm thinking one of the mods wants this game to go on longer, which is why they gave Nick the double voting power and kept it (lbr; it's josh if my theory is correct). They want to give the scum more of a chance to keep the bastard game going. That's one suspicion of Nick that I've noticed that I don't think anyone has pointed out yet.
- The Landmarx method is still pretty scummy to me, I think. He just posts in here to avoid a prod, which is frustrating. He also quickhammered Codex, leading me to believe that he had a reason that he wanted to be on the vote train before anyone else was able to it. Did he role claim yet? I have this in another tab open and don't feel like going back, but whatever.
- Kurt SORRY FOR ASKING because you may have already said it before but I missed it, but did you get to keep your powers after you turned into Town Jesus✞ and got resurrected?
Those are just my thoughts so far on what's happened that I've had while reading through the thread, so yeah.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 21:52:25 GMT -5
i had completely forgotten nightfire was post-restricted So what you're saying is that you forgot about me? </3 :'(
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 23:20:04 GMT -5
^No, I was thinking earlier 'Nightfire hasn't been in here lately, that's so odd' and almost embarrassed myself by asking where you were lol.
Don't rely on that (that I'm probably here for good) b/c josh might change his mind and modkill me for no reason. lbr; it's joshTM Nightfire
I'm not understanding why Kurt OR I were brought back, as opposed to the others who I believe have all been 'cremated' now. Like I said before, Kurt's return is more mystifying to me b/c he hadn't been in the game for days...but then if they'd brought back Khrazy I would have thought that to be strange for the same reason. I just don't know what to think about any of that.
Kurt says he's now a plain ol' vanilla extract strawberry. I don't think he mentioned a flavor though. Maybe he's Michele Bachmann the sample dipshit lmao. Anyway I'm dubious of him having no 'power' role of some sort, b/c every other player in this game does or did have one.*
*except Landmarx who STILL hasn't claimed and has in fact contributed so little that I'm almost starting to think that a post restriction must have been included in his role pm or something.
Nick still has his double vote? And there's no way for us to know if he still has it for the secret votes either, hmm.
No, you weren't able to post when Slizzard role-claimed.
More than one faction makes sense (but then so does one big faction, idk). When I was obsessing over balance earlier, I believe** Kunt pointed out that five scum players actually makes sense in this game given that Slizzard can't actually do anything, and that his win condition is probably a joint one.
**I have already proven multiple times in this game to be a real, not sample, dipshit when it comes to remembering exactly who said what, how they said it, and when they said it, so if I'm wrong on any of this just point it out.
and oh yeah wtf was the point of having godfathers in the game when the cops can't even figure out their sanities? In Codex' case b/c the Usurper's win condition relies on the existence of a Godfather so maybe the other scum role is also a Usurper, but aside from that the godfather power was pointless to give anyone.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 0:01:32 GMT -5
*except Landmarx who STILL hasn't claimed and has in fact contributed so little that I'm almost starting to think that a post restriction must have been included in his role pm or something. Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 14:39:27 GMT -5
*Patiently awaiting the results of Max's alignment and the secret ballot*
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Post by josh on May 21, 2013 14:49:16 GMT -5
#Mod: Less than 12 hours until deadline. A little over 6 until the curse takes effect. Make sure your get your votes in on time.
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Post by Kurt on May 21, 2013 15:05:18 GMT -5
How many hours until the curse clock runs out? Is there any potential for it to boost stats like a Normal-typed curse instead, because lol if so?
Nightfire - I answered earlier, but the cop power is gone and I'm now Strawberry Townie. Or so the PM says, lol. Cynthia - I'm still good ol' Michelle. Also, I have absolutely no idea why I got brought back (and I'm leaving one way or another by June 1 anyway).
As far as cop stuff goes, to clarify: my sanity was guaranteed, but I don't doubt the possibility that the mods are delivering false results. I didn't get to make an investigation on N2 because I was at Cedar Point without internet for all of it (and then I was killed so I wouldn't have gotten the results anyway).
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Post by Kurt on May 21, 2013 15:05:43 GMT -5
lol I guess I should have refreshed the page first.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 16:41:54 GMT -5
oh yeah, this is still a thing. hey.
i don't know if this will be of any help to anyone else but maybe worth pointing out to others:
- drag says he investigated me night 1 and got town. this was confirmed accurate via my death scene. - az says he investigated ryan on night 1 and got town. this was confirmed accurate via his death scene, though we don't know for sure if he's town and/or a cop. he got a town result for max on night 2. - nick says he investigated ryan on night 1 and got non-town. this was confirmed inaccurate, and we don't know for sure if he's town and/or a cop. he says he got a non-town result for max on night 2. - kurt says he investigated nick night 1 and got non-town. this is yet to be confirmed but we do know from his death scene that he was a town cop.
I DOUBLE CHECKED THIS TIME TO MAKE SURE I GOT EVERYONE'S INVESTIGATIONS RIGHT b/c omg at me constantly thinking people investigated slizzard.
i have no idea why there were so many cops but i think the sanities (or truthfulness) of az and nick's claims will be settled by whatever max flips. idk if votes can be changed once they're submitted but if you haven't voted yet I would definitely suggest holding off until immediately after Max's death scene is posted. if max flips town i think this puts nick's cop claim in general in a very suspicious light while az will seem like a sane town cop. if max flips scum this puts both az and nick in a weird light; they could both be non-sane cops or they could be colluding scum partners. az claimed cop before kurt's role was revealed so this kind of helps his claim a bit but idk.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 16:53:10 GMT -5
oh, and also, kurt was shot twice if the mods are to be believed. we got distracted by trying to figure out kuntfire's sanity after kunt admitted targeting kurt, but it is possible that we have a vig or independent SK in the game as well so that is something else to consider on top of all the other fuckery that has been going on.
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