Oldest Acts on CHR

[Cerebro]

will.i.am and Britney Spears should, both, be updated for "Mind Your Business". will is 48 and Britney is 41.

[johnnywest]

Updates for Kylie Minogue, will.i.am, Britney, Timabland, Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado on page 4.

[Cerebro]

A few more updates from recent weeks:

Diplo (44) for "Heartbroken"
Usher (44) for "Good Good"
DJ Khaled (47) for "Supposed To Be Loved"

[jdanton2]

if Dionne Warwick was credited for Paint The Town Red she would be the oldest to have charted at 82. sure it is a sample but Elton John who has the record is also a sample though he was credited.

[MostInterestingManInTheWorld]

Sept 7, 2023 16:06:50 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

if Dionne Warwick was credited for Paint The Town Red she would be the oldest to have charted at 82. sure it is a sample but Elton John who has the record is also a sample though he was credited.

I would argue that merely being sampled doesn't fit the spirit of this topic. Otherwise, one could say Ludwig Van Beethoven should be credited on "A Fifth Of Beethoven".

[jdanton2]

Sept 8, 2023 7:53:44 GMT -5 MostInterestingManInTheWorld said:

Sept 7, 2023 16:06:50 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

if Dionne Warwick was credited for Paint The Town Red she would be the oldest to have charted at 82. sure it is a sample but Elton John who has the record is also a sample though he was credited.

I would argue that merely being sampled doesn't fit the spirit of this topic. Otherwise, one could say Ludwig Van Beethoven should be credited on "A Fifth Of Beethoven".

i sort of agree but i think Dionne or any other sample should at least get a mention in this thread even if they are not officially credited.

[johnnywest]

Sept 7, 2023 15:28:32 GMT -5 Cerebro said:

A few more updates from recent weeks:

Diplo (44) for "Heartbroken"
Usher (44) for "Good Good"
DJ Khaled (47) for "Supposed To Be Loved"

These are added but DJ Khaled has a more recent song, "Dientes."

There's a footnote at the very bottom of my post on page 4.

Also updated 40-year-old Nicki Minaj.

**Added 4 members of NSync (Chris, 51; JC, 47; Joey, 46; Lance, 44) and updated JT's latest song.

[jdanton2]

Nile Rodgers who is featured on Pitbull's new single Freak 54 (Freak Out) is 71. the song is sort of a remake of Le Freak his band Chic's song from the 70's.

[johnnywest]

Added Nile, updated Pitbull's song, and ages/song for Pete Wentz and Andy Hurley.

[mkarns]

Blink-182, now aged 51 (Mark) and 47 (Tom and Travis, who turns 48 this week) just appeared in the CHR top 50 for the first time since 2004 with "One More Time".

[MostInterestingManInTheWorld]

Nov 13, 2023 3:11:49 GMT -5 mkarns said:

Blink-182, now aged 51 (Mark) and 47 (Tom and Travis, who turns 48 this week) just appeared in the CHR top 50 for the first time since 2004 with "One More Time".

While the members of Blink-182 have been charting in one form or another on Alt relatively consistently over the past 20 years, I am somewhat surprised they've been able to have another pop hit. Good for them!

[Luckie Starchild]

77-year-old Cher with "DJ Play a Christmas Song"

[avamaxstan]

I feel like the criteria should be adjusted to lead artist only. The list is getting very long considering the current feature/sample craze, and radio doesn't mind play a song with an older featured artist as long as the lead artist is younger and trendy.

[balletgirlmom]

avamaxstan, so true.  Older artists usually cannot get airplay on their own.  Male artists are able to get airplay as they get older but female artists struggle and it is not fair. Older artists like Elton John team up with younger hot artists all the time and keep charting.  When was the last time Elton charted alone?  You are right about all the "features" or duets or trios mixing younger artists with the senior artist.  If Cher teamed up with Dua or Taylor or Drake or Cardi, she'd chart because they chart.  But for Cher to chart at age 77 as a solo with a NEW song is unreal. Cher is 60 years into her career now.  The Oldest Acts on CHR really should be SOLO artists, since THAT is not easy. Maybe with Cher breaking that glass ceiling, it will be easier for older artists to chart.  The music biz is ageist and makes it harder for female artists as they get older and by older, even 40 is hard, let alone pushing 80.

[jdanton2]

Cher has the record now at 77 . Elton was 75 when he charted last and as mentioned they were collabs.

[mkarns]

I still think Elton John deserves full credit here because he was the lead artist on his recent Dua/Britney collabs, and they were full-fledged duets in which he was equal or dominant, unlike some "features" where someone gets what appears to be a full co-credit when they only actually are heard on a couple of lines, in a brief sample, or on some barely audible backup.

[Luckie Starchild]

^^ Call me when Dame Elton scores a solo hit with an original new song...

[balletgirlmom]

Luckie Starchild, so true.

I love Elton John and have all of his stuff going back to the 70's.  Elton is phenomenal but his last solo NEW song to chart in the USA was I Want Love in 2001.  I Want Love Bubbled Under on the Billboard Charts at #110.  Since then, Elton charted with Britney, Dua, Ed Sheeran, Lady Gaga x 2, and others.

Elton is very smart and knows how hard it is to chart now so he teams up with younger hot acts. Smart move.

So far, Cher has not taken this route.  I hope she does in 2024.  With help from her boyfriend, Alexander AE Edwards, I bet he suggests she work with others like she did with Tyga.  With Cher you never know.

BUT, for now, her adds at age 77 on mainstream CHR Radio blow my mind, since as you aptly stated, this is a NEW SOLO song and a NEW Christmas song.  Not an easy sell but somehow in all her Cherness, she does SELL it!

I hope this break-through in the Ageist and Sexist world of mainstream radio make it easier for artists like Beyonce, Billie, Nicki, Miley, Taylor, and all the other female artists, to chart at 77.  I guess next up for Cher is to chart at 80!

[Luckie Starchild]

Oct 15, 2023 22:34:35 GMT -5 johnnywest said:

Added Nile, updated Pitbull's song, and ages/song for Pete Wentz and Andy Hurley.

Also: Jared Leto is 51 now and he turns 52 on the 26th.

[MostInterestingManInTheWorld]

Nov 30, 2023 14:17:57 GMT -5 balletgirlmom said:

avamaxstan, so true.  Older artists usually cannot get airplay on their own.  Male artists are able to get airplay as they get older but female artists struggle and it is not fair. Older artists like Elton John team up with younger hot artists all the time and keep charting.  When was the last time Elton charted alone?  You are right about all the "features" or duets or trios mixing younger artists with the senior artist.  If Cher teamed up with Dua or Taylor or Drake or Cardi, she'd chart because they chart.  But for Cher to chart at age 77 as a solo with a NEW song is unreal. Cher is 60 years into her career now.  The Oldest Acts on CHR really should be SOLO artists, since THAT is not easy. Maybe with Cher breaking that glass ceiling, it will be easier for older artists to chart.  The music biz is ageist and makes it harder for female artists as they get older and by older, even 40 is hard, let alone pushing 80.

I interpret the spirit of the topic to be "Look at so and so still kicking it at age XX with this original material". So while one doesn't necessarily have to be a solo artist charting, it should imply they've been working in the studio recently with original material. That's why I'd seriously not include cases where somebody gets sampled, and probably not include strict re-releases (sorry Kate Bush).

[balletgirlmom]

Cher, at 77, just cracked the Billboard Bubbling Under Chart at #115.  I know that does not sound like much BUT it is.  Cher first got on the Billboard Bubbling Under chart with Baby Don't Go in Dec 1964, so 59 years ago.  Nowadays getting radio play at CHR for a 77-year-old woman with a NEW song, not "feat" or having a younger hot artist is nearly impossible.  

Since Cher has done this with a Solo song all by herself, I hope other older artists can do it as they get into their 70's like Madonna and Beyonce and Pink and all the others.  I love Elton John and Paul McCartney, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder, Rod Stewart, Ozzy Ozborn, and so many vets, but know how hard it is to get radio pay and streaming.  Older artists are able to sell but not get Radio play especially at CHR or streaming.

CHR radio needs to be less ageist and just play songs that are good.  Hopefully we will see more older artists on CHR with solo songs. 

[Luckie Starchild]

^^ Dayum... I mean, the gurl is a true force of nature! GO CHER!!!

[johnnywest]

Updates:

Cher, 77
Mark Hoppus, 51
Travis Barker, 48
Tom DeLonge, 48
Jared Leto, 52
Shannon Leto, 53
Usher, 45
Tiesto, "Both"

Add:

Jimmy Fallon, 49, "Wrap Me Up"

[balletgirlmom]

Since Cher has done it at 77 with a Solo song, do you think CHR will be more likely to add songs that are good by older artists?  Hard enough for older men to get CHR for solo songs but even harder for older female artists.

[pnobelysk]

70s is likely going to stay an anomaly

However it’s seeming more and more possible artists like Beyonce and pink might still be able to chart when they turn 50

[johnnywest]

Dec 15, 2023 23:07:12 GMT -5 balletgirlmom said:

Since Cher has done it at 77 with a Solo song, do you think CHR will be more likely to add songs that are good by older artists?  Hard enough for older men to get CHR for solo songs but even harder for older female artists.

Probably not unless they’re featured artists like Nile Rodgers.

[Luckie Starchild]

Dec 15, 2023 16:14:46 GMT -5 johnnywest said:

Updates:

Cher, 77
Mark Hoppus, 51
Travis Barker, 48
Tom DeLonge, 48
Jared Leto, 52
Shannon Leto, 53
Usher, 45
Tiesto, "Both"

Add:

Jimmy Fallon, 49, "Wrap Me Up"

Thnx for updating the list... Nice to Cherilyn enjoying a lofty perch at the very tippy top (which, of course, is right where she belongs)... 

[MostInterestingManInTheWorld]

Dec 16, 2023 8:00:17 GMT -5 pnobelysk said:

70s is likely going to stay an anomaly

However it’s seeming more and more possible artists like Beyonce and pink might still be able to chart when they turn 50

It doesn't seem to be mentioned in this thread, but the bulk of the very old appearances have to do with Christmas songs.

That being said, while I haven't done the research to back this up, my a priori assumption is that the artists underlying pop hits have been gradually aging over time, so as this quote mentions, it wouldn't be a complete shock if Beyonce, Taylor, Miley, Rihanna, the Jonas Brothers, both the Justins, etc. etc. etc. chart into their late 40's/early 50's.

[johnnywest]

Jennifer Lopez's song and age have been updated.

[johnm1120]

If Mediabase complies and allows her to chart, Sophie Ellis-Bextor will chart at age 44 (45 if she makes it to April)