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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2013 19:24:10 GMT -5
I think the Nick route is a good one now from my perspective. Part of my opposition for voting for him in Day 1 was because I thought Drag or Codex were scum and that they wouldn't vote for Nick (or Devin by association) as early as they did if either of them were scum too. Now I've reconsidered that stance. Otherwise, it seems a lot of us are focusing on Juan as well with josh/Jason in the background as another possibility. My suspicion of nick is, again, only circumstantial. Had codex or drag been scum, nick would have been town. Since they were both town, that doesn't mean nick isn't town but it makes me less sure that he is. I feel like I suspected Devin a bit during day one. I'll go see if I can find it.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2013 19:29:16 GMT -5
Here's the only thing I said about Devin that is of any worth. Devin is giving off vibes to me because he seems really sure of himself when he posts. It's not so much what he's saying but how he's saying things that strikes me as a bit off. Almost cocky. I don't remember/know if that's how he plays normally but it's something I seem to be catching.
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Post by Devin on Jun 9, 2013 19:31:25 GMT -5
^ Why did I seem 'cocky' to you? It's personally not a personality trait of mine at all.
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Post by nick64 on Jun 9, 2013 19:33:15 GMT -5
Thing is, there really isn't a reason for finding Juan suspicious in those posts. You just say he's inactive, and then explain why you feel Slizzard is likely the Townie in the pairing. While Juan may be inactive, he has shared his thoughts, so it doesn't seem to me that he's trying to avoid posting. Plus, I don't think Juan is really too active on the board in general.
I also don't like how willing you are/were to hammer Devin, considering my reason for voting him was the same for which I addressed you. Could you provide some example posts in which Devin seemed "cocky" to you?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2013 19:45:19 GMT -5
That's the thing. My thoughts on Juan are circumstantial and I admit they're not strong. While my thoughts on Devin aren't that strong either. I don't remember what he said that struck me as cocky. I'd have to go back even further to try to figure out why I even thought that. He'd never been a strong target of mine. I was adamant about drag and codex, to the extent that I would have sworn my life (in this game) on it and I did defend nick as being town because of it as well. Since then, I haven't had any strong suspicions for anyone.
Did we determine anything about josh/Jason?
I think my stance now is more of who I think town is rather than who I think scum is.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 9, 2013 19:52:08 GMT -5
Did we determine anything about josh/Jason? Anything at all for me. I'm placing a vote for Jason only because of Josh's behaviour closing the deadline at Day 1.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2013 19:55:47 GMT -5
I'm trying to read through the thread but can't find it on my phone. Who was it, other than codex, that didn't want lovers revealed?
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Post by nick64 on Jun 9, 2013 19:59:59 GMT -5
So if your thoughts on both Devin and myself are weak and circumstancial, why were you ready to hammer? I'm trying to read through the thread but can't find it on my phone. Who was it, other than codex, that didn't want lovers revealed? Drag
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 20:04:42 GMT -5
Day 2 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.09.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 5/8 votes to lynch!
Day 2: Vote Count 5 Juan: Max, Devin Devin: Jason, Az, Kunt Jason: Juan Not Voting: Slizzard, Nick
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2013 20:05:26 GMT -5
Because I'm not as sure that one of you isn't scum as I was during day 1 and because my curiosity is growing. I think with no information or suspicions, there's a 50% chance any of the pairings have of having scum. Those aren't bad odds. I'd say I'm more suspicious of you both than I am of my own partner, for example, or of Kunt. But kunt's partner is josh/Jason who I would put toward the top of my list right now.
So I didn't hammer because it's not something I'm willing to commit to. Other than wanting to move the game forward.
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Post by nick64 on Jun 9, 2013 22:54:33 GMT -5
Alright well it looks like me and devin are gonna be lynched I would pay special attention to Max, Slizzard, and Jason on Day 3. Try to get the latter two talking. Still not sure about Juanito and Az, and even Kunt's shown less Town behavior recently. Honestly, it's up in the air. Good luck Town~
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Post by Devin on Jun 9, 2013 23:00:07 GMT -5
Ditto with what Nick said. It's sad that town will be taking a punch again, but I hope we prevail in the end. :)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 23:00:29 GMT -5
Day 2 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.09.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 5/8 votes to lynch!
Day 2: Vote Count 6 Juan: Max, Devin Devin: Jason, Az, Kunt Jason: Juan Not Voting: Slizzard, Nick
Devin, Town Lover has been lynched. Nick, Town Lover has committed suicide.
Day 3 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.12.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 4/6 votes to lynch!
Day 3: Vote Count 0 Not Voting: Juan, Slizzard, Max, Kunt, Az, Jason
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2013 23:06:31 GMT -5
Ouch. Is there even scum in this game?
I'm keeping my vote on Juan
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 9, 2013 23:37:57 GMT -5
F**k. Urgh I was so sure there was something scummy about Devin. :'(
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 9, 2013 23:57:47 GMT -5
Damn! I still don't know anything about my partner, so I really need to know hat Slizzard thinks about this before I take some actions as well as Jason.
Jason: Devin turned out to be town. Do you have any more suspects?
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 9, 2013 23:59:24 GMT -5
I really need to know what
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 10, 2013 7:41:19 GMT -5
OK guys, back from RI where I was celebrating my Mom's birthday! We went to Foxwoods (casino) and my dad won quite a bit of $$$. But I was out of internet contact for much of the weekend. Boo. :(
- Ugh, well the Devin idea was based on some of the moves from D-1. But it seems like that was a no-go. Admittedly, I wanted to get a vote in because I knew my internet time would be limited. However, based on the readings, I don't know if I would have necessarily changed my mind. If I am not mistaken, this changes the game considerably. Right now there are 3 pairs of teams left. One pair is Town/Town, while the other two are Town/Mafia. That means that, IF the Mafia successfully takes out the last Town/Town team, they win - correct? @mod
Now to some ideas: - I read Juan's lengthy analysis post. It came across as town to me except at the end, when (IMO) he pulled a scum-like move - voting for the inactive (me). Why wouldn't he vote for someone like, say, Max instead? I don't get that. - WHERE IS KUNT? No posts in the QT since I joined. I am getting a little suspicious. Perhaps a little too much time in another QT? - Max was on Codex's lynch and is now after Juan. I noticed that Drag mentioned on D-1 to pay close attention who was on Codex's lynch. Max may have seen that and thought it would be too suspicious to jump on a lynch during D-2. He then put his vote on Juan and kept it as the Devin lynch continued. On D-3, it would now make sense for Max to go after the last remaining town alliance. Note - he threw out a casual suspicion of Josh/me on D-1 and didn't follow through. Why not, especially since Josh's behavior on D-1 was erratic and odd? As a seasoned player, I think that Josh was setting the ground to draw suspicion to his pairing in hopes someone would find him suspicious enough to lynch and thus lynch the one member he believed to be scum - Kunt. - I don't get any inklings from Az or Slizzard. Good or bad - that is what it is.
Based on my analysis here, I think that Max and Kunt are scum. I'm not wholly convinced enough to 'commit suicide' in the game (yet), so I will Vote: Max for right now.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 10, 2013 7:42:06 GMT -5
^Ugh, I should have included more white space above. Sorry. :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 11:07:53 GMT -5
vote: Jason
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 11:09:13 GMT -5
Or actually Vote: Kunt
Either way, Jason's lynched. On my phone, will provide more later.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 14:43:22 GMT -5
#Mod: Slizzard has been prodded.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 10, 2013 14:52:50 GMT -5
@mod: If the last Town/Town pair dies today, then Mafia wins?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 10, 2013 15:54:32 GMT -5
Waiting for kunt's assessment of Jason. Will proceed further later today when I weigh the options based on who's left.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 15:57:32 GMT -5
#Mod: Yes.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 10, 2013 18:39:08 GMT -5
So this is going to be based completely on memory from what I've gathered of the game so far and based on who's left.
There are three pairs left. Two of them have a scum. Those are good odds but at the same time, I think the fact that we've lynched two pairs without getting a single scum is pretty crappy on our part. Here's where I stand on the remaining players.
Max/Az
I'm town. But there's nothing I can say or do to convince anyone of that so I won't dwell on that. My partner, Az, I only momentarily suspected back during my theory regarding the QTs that may or may not have gone anywhere. I should check back and see how the numbers were for the teams and see if there were, in fact, any patterns based on what we know about the lynched teams so far. But that's neither here nor there for the purposes of this post. Anyway, my rating of Az (where A+ is I'm 100% sure he's town, F is 100% sure he's scum): AZ: B-
Slizzard/Juan
I have been periodically suspicious of Juan since near the end of Day 1 but only on account of him being inexperienced and rather silent at the beginning of the game. I attributed this to the theory that, if he were town, he would make an effort to post more to avoid getting suspicion from anyone but as scum, he may have decided to play safe by being distant. This is only a theory and based on nothing more than perhaps my own technique if I were in his position. Slizzard has been even more silent, probably about to be modkilled due to the number of prods he's received. I find that odd but only because he's more experienced and thus, if he were scum, he'd post more to avoid being made a target (so, a reversal of my theory for Juan). However, in doing a quick search of his most recent posts, he's been active on the board, having received a prod for the game even while posting elsewhere. That strikes me as odd for him. Has he lost interest in the game? I'm genuinely interested in the answer to that question. Until then, I'm upping my rate of suspicion for him.
Juan: C- Slizzard: C-
Kunt/Josh(Jason)
I think out of anyone else in this game, Kunt has been the only surefire town. As in, I would have given him an A (not A+ because you can never be THAT sure). Consider it a case of putting all of one's eggs in one basket. That's kunt for me this game. However, I'm beginning to wonder if my sureness of him is smart. He played a really good game in Day 1 but he's been less noticeable since the middle of day 2. I feel like Kunt and I were playing hand-in-hand during Day 1 but because he's so cunning, he fooled us all. Plus, when I think about it, he was quick to take my suggestion of switching his vote from nick to codex, ultimately leading to the codex/drag demise. Since when has he (or anyone) listened to me? On the other hand, josh went completely nutball at the end of Day 1, to the point where I felt like he was trying to sabotage town (if he were town), or out himself (if he were mafia). In either case, he was reckless. The only thing that made me not completely turn on him was that he was replaced for Day 2, making me think that maybe he was purposely sabotaging himself just so he didn't have to play anymore. Now that Jason has taken over, I haven't gotten anything strong from him EXCEPT that he placed a vote on me. Now, I realize it's completely cocky of me to think that odd and I swear I'm not being defensive or vengeful or whatever but I've noticed that many of the players have pointed out over and over on how town I've been this game. The only time anyone mentioned anything of me being suspicious was when nick said to pay special attention to me, slizzard and Jason - half of the remaining players.
Kunt - B- Jason - C-
So as of now, I'm not completely sure about anyone being scum nor am I completely sure about anyone being town. I'm on the fence with pretty much everyone right now. I would say if I could order everyone from most to least likely to be scum, it would go: 1. Jason 2. Juan 3. Slizzard 4. Az 5. Kunt
Because Juan and Slizzard are a pair, I feel like a vote for either of those would be more likely than a vote for Jason, who is paired with the person I feel is most likely to be town. So that's why I'm torn as to where to place my vote right now.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 10, 2013 18:40:52 GMT -5
And yes, I realize it currently sits on Juan.
So far, one person from each pair has one vote.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 10, 2013 20:26:50 GMT -5
- I read Juan's lengthy analysis post. It came across as town to me except at the end, when (IMO) he pulled a scum-like move - voting for the inactive (me). Why wouldn't he vote for someone like, say, Max instead? I don't get that. I couldn't place a vote for Nick or Devin because both of them seem town for me. Also, I was expecting Slizzard to come by here, but it doesn't happen. As a consequence, I throw a vote for you mainly because of Josh's behaviour on Day 1. - WHERE IS KUNT? No posts in the QT since I joined. I am getting a little suspicious. Perhaps a little too much time in another QT? This is a brand new information! Well, Kunt hasn't been too much here after Day 1 was over, but I would have thought there will be some posts on your QT. - Max was on Codex's lynch and is now after Juan. I noticed that Drag mentioned on D-1 to pay close attention who was on Codex's lynch. Max may have seen that and thought it would be too suspicious to jump on a lynch during D-2. He then put his vote on Juan and kept it as the Devin lynch continued. On D-3, it would now make sense for Max to go after the last remaining town alliance. Note - he threw out a casual suspicion of Josh/me on D-1 and didn't follow through. Why not, especially since Josh's behavior on D-1 was erratic and odd? As a seasoned player, I think that Josh was setting the ground to draw suspicion to his pairing in hopes someone would find him suspicious enough to lynch and thus lynch the one member he believed to be scum - Kunt. Good point! I will have to check it again.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 10, 2013 21:41:59 GMT -5
I'm wondering if Kunt putting a vote on himself is meant to be taken as some 'look at me I'm town' thing. I know Drag did that before (and I can't believe you fell for it) but given that it doesn't matter who the votes are on if one of the Kunt/Jason pairing is lynched, it could be Kunt wanting to off himself because it'd be easier getting rid of the Town side of a suspected T/S partnership. Kunt, how sure are you that Josh/son are scum? 'Cause it could be a deflection. I'm not feeling too confident on what to do here, I was pretty sure about Devin, and then he flipped Town. :( I'm going to Vote: Kunt for the second, 'cause I also find it worth noting Kunt was in on both lynches - but as previously stated earlier in this post that isn't necessarily a scum sign.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 22:47:15 GMT -5
My suspicions of Jason carry over from my suspicions of josh from D1. As town, even if he was pulling out, he had no reason to do what he was doing. Now, for Jason: Now to some ideas: - I read Juan's lengthy analysis post. It came across as town to me except at the end, when (IMO) he pulled a scum-like move - voting for the inactive (me). Why wouldn't he vote for someone like, say, Max instead? I don't get that. - WHERE IS KUNT? No posts in the QT since I joined. I am getting a little suspicious. Perhaps a little too much time in another QT? Nice contradiction there bro. As a seasoned player, I think that Josh was setting the ground to draw suspicion to his pairing in hopes someone would find him suspicious enough to lynch and thus lynch the one member he believed to be scum - Kunt. Josh had no thoughts to contribute throughout the entirety of the game. I have no idea where this is coming from. Possibly self preservation, but for the empty cases you're setting up against me, followed by saying you're "sure" I'm scum, then putting your vote on Max over your own partner that would get you lynched. Works for me! I think Az or Slizzard is the other scum, which blows because they aren't on the same team. Max has done jack shit to make me think he's scum, unless he's gotten completely ACE at it from last game when I was scum with him and he seemed virtually clueless. The whole of Jason's analysis just seems so bogus to me for that reason too.
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