Lana Del Rey - "Summertime Sadness"

[pnobelysk]

new peak of 37 on the hot 100 this week

[NeRD]

I adore this song. The original that is.

[Keelzit]

Jul 31, 2013 20:20:47 GMT -5 pnobelysk said:

new peak of 37 on the hot 100 this week

I guess it gets streamed a lot since its sales are good but overall airplay is not that strong to put it in the top 40 on the Hot 100. Can't believe Lana finally has a hit in the US!

[Arrow]

Technically it's her second hit, after Young & Beautiful.

[tommymonster44]

Jul 27, 2013 2:13:05 GMT -5 Snowbeast said:

Jul 26, 2013 19:23:34 GMT -5 reformist said:

Wait, you dislike her but a dance remix makes you willing to suddenly like her? Well, you're entitled to your opinion of course but I always find it odd that some people may change their mind just because something gets commercially successful.

The US treatment of her has been awful from the get-go. She's one of the most interesting things that happened to pop/contemporary music for the past two years or so, yet everyone are focusing on the whole lame indie discussion and some TV performance failure. I mean in the meantime we have people like Britney who can't even dance, sing live or have some actual input in her music to save her life getting praise and radio love (no shade on her, just to put some perspective).

It's sad indeed that a dance remix might be the first hit Lana gets in her own country (and it's not even a remix of one of her strongest songs).

I actually didn't even know there was a dance remix until you informed me about it. I heard the album version in my friends car, and like I said, this song made me inclined to purchase her album. As every dance remix usually does, it sucks the emotion out of the song. You're right that her North American treatment has been awful. That's a probably big contributor as to why I didn't like her. I didn't like the single Born To Die, saw her SNL performance and wrote her off.

You don't need to criticize Britney Spears though, because Britney Spears has always been Britney Spears. I don't think Britney has gotten mass critical praise in a long time. If anything, people judge her too harshly now because they hold her to that image of an 18 year old, pre-maternal girl that was doing some really innovative things regarding her sound and performances. Radio still embraces her because she makes current pop music and the name is about as big as it can get.

There's hundreds of great artists and bands that don't get a radio hit because their sound isn't what is popular at the time. After hearing this album, I don't think Lana Del Rey's team had the intention of securing a top 10 Pop hit so it shouldn't be surprising that a more commercial remix is the crux to airplay.

I think her album is pretty good, but Young & Beautiful from TGG soundtrack has to be my favorite thing I've heard from her. That song gave me chills while driving home tonight.

You do realize that Born To Day was the fourth best selling album in 2012 with many hit singles across the world. Blue Jeans was a top 10 hit in the UK and many other musical markets across the world. It's not some small unknown indie album like the majority of American's perceive it to be. It's been one of the most successful albums in the past few years.

Of course, I'm not trying to attack your opinion on Lana, but many people are unaware that Lana is blowing up on all other major musical markets excluding the US. This can be blamed on the media, who has been spreading hateful and untrue propaganda about her from the start.

[Arrow]

I kind of agree about his assessment though, Lana's material is not commercially accessible in this market whatsoever. Hence the need for a dance mix for a radio breakthrough. I can't imagine any radio station playing any of the songs from Born To Die or Paradise in their original incarnations. Songs like Carmen and Dark Paradise for instance just don't fit in on CHR at all in any format. Internationally there may be less boundaries in regards to what hits there, but for the US I never saw BTD as another Teenage Dream, Loud or Animal which spawned hit after hit with radios.

[Keelzit]

Blue Jeans, Diet Mtn Dew, This Is What Makes Us Girls and the demo of National Anthem are very radio-friendly as they are imo. Especially Blue Jeans though.

[Arrow]

Blue Jeans and National Anthem are the only two I could see having some success on radio formats, and even then I could only see them being minor hits. Blue Jeans sounds like an alternative/rock song, and I can't imagine it doing better then top 20 on the rock formats, National Anthem is another one which likely wouldn't see any support on Urban and only limited support on Rhythmic, more importantly I don't see crossover success either regarding Top 40, which is most crucial. They just don't blend well together with most of the songs that are being played now. It's clear that slow burning love songs are where she is seeing most of her success -- Video Games, Young & Beautiful and Summertime Sadness. I think it would be best to keep up with those until she builds up her goodwill with CHR.

[Snowbeast]

Jul 31, 2013 21:24:28 GMT -5 tommymonster44 said:

Jul 27, 2013 2:13:05 GMT -5 Snowbeast said:

I actually didn't even know there was a dance remix until you informed me about it. I heard the album version in my friends car, and like I said, this song made me inclined to purchase her album. As every dance remix usually does, it sucks the emotion out of the song. You're right that her North American treatment has been awful. That's a probably big contributor as to why I didn't like her. I didn't like the single Born To Die, saw her SNL performance and wrote her off.

You don't need to criticize Britney Spears though, because Britney Spears has always been Britney Spears. I don't think Britney has gotten mass critical praise in a long time. If anything, people judge her too harshly now because they hold her to that image of an 18 year old, pre-maternal girl that was doing some really innovative things regarding her sound and performances. Radio still embraces her because she makes current pop music and the name is about as big as it can get.

There's hundreds of great artists and bands that don't get a radio hit because their sound isn't what is popular at the time. After hearing this album, I don't think Lana Del Rey's team had the intention of securing a top 10 Pop hit so it shouldn't be surprising that a more commercial remix is the crux to airplay.

I think her album is pretty good, but Young & Beautiful from TGG soundtrack has to be my favorite thing I've heard from her. That song gave me chills while driving home tonight.

You do realize that Born To Day was the fourth best selling album in 2012 with many hit singles across the world. Blue Jeans was a top 10 hit in the UK and many other musical markets across the world. It's not some small unknown indie album like the majority of American's perceive it to be. It's been one of the most successful albums in the past few years.

Of course, I'm not trying to attack your opinion on Lana, but many people are unaware that Lana is blowing up on all other major musical markets excluding the US. This can be blamed on the media, who has been spreading hateful and untrue propaganda about her from the start.

I knew she was huge in the UK. I'm talking about North America though. Radio in the UK is a lot different than America. It doesn't surprise me that Blue Jeans was a Top 10 there after hearing her album.

[Envoirment]

Jul 31, 2013 22:01:41 GMT -5 Snowbeast said:

Jul 31, 2013 21:24:28 GMT -5 tommymonster44 said:

You do realize that Born To Day was the fourth best selling album in 2012 with many hit singles across the world. Blue Jeans was a top 10 hit in the UK and many other musical markets across the world. It's not some small unknown indie album like the majority of American's perceive it to be. It's been one of the most successful albums in the past few years.

Of course, I'm not trying to attack your opinion on Lana, but many people are unaware that Lana is blowing up on all other major musical markets excluding the US. This can be blamed on the media, who has been spreading hateful and untrue propaganda about her from the start.

I knew she was huge in the UK. I'm talking about North America though. Radio in the UK is a lot different than America. It doesn't surprise me that Blue Jeans was a Top 10 there after hearing her album.

It didn't go top 10 though. "Born To Die" and "Video Games" did. "Blue Jeans" peaked at #32.

[Keelzit]

Technically it got to #9 since it was a double-release with Video Games the first time around.

[ddlz]

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[musiciscool]

Keep rising Lana! Get that TOP 20!

[SoMuchToSay]

I think America's finally getting that Summertime Sadness! I can't believe a song this old is smashing this hard!

[Verisimilitude]

#2 on UK iTunes too. Could easily hit top 5 on the UK charts by Sunday.

[Deleted]

Aug 1, 2013 14:48:09 GMT -5 SoMuchToSay said:

I can't believe a song this old is smashing this hard!

"Radioactive", "Can't Hold Us", "Safe And Sound" are older than this song. The latter two are from 2011 actually. We've also had plenty of other recent hits that didn't take off until they were about a year old as well. So this song being a year-old isn't anything that I would expect to hold it back, it's become more and more common recently.

[bat1990]

I would love if they tried "Dark Paradise" if they pick a BTD song as a follow-up.

[jjose712]

Sometimes a song just needs an oportunity to be heard.
Passenger's Let her go failed to crack top 20 on AAA, but they give it a new push (months later) after being a big success in a lot of european countries (i think the success in UK really help), and now is doing well on Hot AC and climbing on itunes (and probably will be ready to cause and impact on pop on the fall).

Lana had very bad luck with her singles, in my opinion her performance on SNL really damage her posibilities to cause damage on pop before, Video games is a special song that did well in a lot of countries, and Born to die and Blue jeans are more radio friendly.

Young and beautiful opened the door with its success on itunes (i still think the song will do great if the push it to radio) and the idea (that seemed quite ridiculous at first) of changing Y&B and push Summertime sadness is working.
The song is good, the sound is different from most top 50 songs. I don't like the remix, but the original is selling well as well, so it's all good

[Deleted]

Aug 1, 2013 14:57:32 GMT -5 @xiivi said:

Aug 1, 2013 14:48:09 GMT -5 SoMuchToSay said:

I can't believe a song this old is smashing this hard!

"Radioactive", "Can't Hold Us", "Safe And Sound" are older than this song.

"Radioactive" is actually just about the same age (a little bit newer) as "Summertime Sadness." The Continued Silence EP that first had "Radioactive" on it was released in the beginning of February 2012, while Born to Die was released late January 2012. But yeah, you're right about other old songs smashing after a long time, but I think they mean that it's taking so long for an artist that has has a lot of success elsewhere with other songs only just now getting success here with a random single that nobody pegged to be the biggest hit from the album.

[downsouth]

I glad she is doing better in the US. The rest of the world really likes her and her sound.

[tommymonster44]

Jul 31, 2013 22:43:26 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Jul 31, 2013 22:01:41 GMT -5 Snowbeast said:

I knew she was huge in the UK. I'm talking about North America though. Radio in the UK is a lot different than America. It doesn't surprise me that Blue Jeans was a Top 10 there after hearing her album.

It didn't go top 10 though. "Born To Die" and "Video Games" did. "Blue Jeans" peaked at #32.

Oh I'm sorry, that's my mistake. I got the two singles mixed up.

[ddlz]

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#11 iTunes

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I think what surprises me about this song being a hit is that it's so random and kind of came out of nowhere. People know who she is but isn't really that popular and it seemed like the album was on the back burner while her people tried to give her a name through other projects, like the Great Gatsby song, and then she put out an EP fairly recently too? But then along comes this song, from that first album, out of nowhere and it's not struggling. It's actually rising fast and becoming her first actual hit here after so many attempts and struggles.

It's just odd how this one is the one that's rising with such ease when everything else Lana-related seemed to go nowhere.

[Deleted]

I think it's because there's been a lot of hype behind her for the past year, but her music was way too left field for pop radio. Now that they sent out an EDM remix, pop programmers have something by her to play that won't stick out like a sore thumb on their playlists.

[ddlz]

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#21, #53 iTunes

[onehitwonder]

Aug 1, 2013 14:48:09 GMT -5 SoMuchToSay said:

I think America's finally getting that Summertime Sadness! I can't believe a song this old is smashing this hard!

"The A Team" says hi.

[Keelzit]

I don't think this song is too old really. It's just a year and a half old and only now has been released as a single. Lots of 5th singles by other albums are about the same age too once they get released but I guess this case is different since Lana never had a radio hit in the US before.

[Deleted]

Isn't this particular remix not that old though?

[reformist]

Aug 2, 2013 9:44:41 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

I think it's because there's been a lot of hype behind her for the past year, but her music was way too left field for pop radio. Now that they sent out an EDM remix, pop programmers have something by her to play that won't stick out like a sore thumb on their playlists.

Yeah, a lame remix of one of her inferior songs... that says it all about the state of American radio and nothing about Lana.

[musicfan20]

This song sounds great on the radio!