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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 12:37:36 GMT -5
Did we decide afterall that the upcoming Lady Gaga song wasn't going to do it?
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Post by imbondz on Jul 28, 2013 12:46:12 GMT -5
Ugh if Blurred Lines beats One Sweet Day.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 12:48:32 GMT -5
The downside to One Sweet Day is an extremely short chart run, it charted at #29 on the 50th anniversay list of the Hot 100 in 2008 and I suspect it will not make the top 30 this time for the 55th.
But yes it did get the 16 weeks
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Post by josh on Jul 28, 2013 12:52:30 GMT -5
Did we decide afterall that the upcoming Lady Gaga song wasn't going to do it? No. It's still too far away to tell, between not knowing the song yet to judge how it will be received by the public and also how Blurred Lines will be performing by then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 12:54:31 GMT -5
OK that seems reasonable
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2013 13:11:25 GMT -5
"One Sweet Day" had four things going its way:
It came out and peaked during the Christmas freeze;
It benefited from the unprecedented lack of retail singles being released commercially;
It also benefited from less competition based on the (then) new slower mid 90s single release pattern (based on labels reacting to new slowed-down BDS charts).
However, back then Hot 100 airplay did not include r&b or adult r&b like today: Imagine OSD's added points!
BL has a lot more competition from streaming, YouTube, etc.
17 weeks is not impossible, but the conditions have to be perfect.
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Post by Eqbk on Jul 28, 2013 13:16:57 GMT -5
Miley's strongest charting songs so far seem to chart when the Hot 100 is competitive and/or have a monster hit. "The Climb" peaked at #4 when "Boom Boom Pow" as #1, "Poker Face" #2, and "Right Round" #3. "Party in the USA" got blocked by "I Gotta Feeling" and now "We Can't Stop" has to deal w/ "Blurred Lines". She has some rather rotten timing doesn't she.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 28, 2013 13:17:33 GMT -5
Blurred Lines has a minimum chart lead of 59% considering it was leading by 76% over Daft Punk (#2) the week prior.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 13:17:43 GMT -5
"One Sweet Day" had four things going its way: It came out and peaked during the Christmas freeze; It benefited from the unprecedented lack of retail singles being released commercially; It also benefited from less competition based on the (then) new slower mid 90s single release pattern (based on labels reacting to new slowed-down BDS charts). However, back then Hot 100 airplay did not include r&b or adult r&b like today: Imagine OSD's added points! BL has a lot more competition from streaming, YouTube, etc. 17 weeks is not impossible, but the conditions have to be perfect. Radio is more fragmented today than it was then In the mid 90s there was top 40, rock, dance, r&b, latin, ac and country Rock was divided into modern and album Top 40 had mainstream and rhythm that was it And even that was alot more than 10 years earlier So adult r&b would have been refelected in r&b |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2013 14:37:33 GMT -5
1995/1996 wasn't even the peak year of the lack of big radio hits on the Hot 100- yeah, there were a good amount, but 1997 and 1998 is when things really got to be too much in that regard. The week OSD debuted, just one title in the airplay top 10 was not on the Hot 100: Gin Blossom's "Till I Hear it From You." And two in the 11-20 range, one of which hit the chart after that week (Madonna's "You'll See).
So, I don't think OSD benefited too much from big radio hits not appearing on the chart. It was just a matter of two hugely successful acts coming together, as well as the sentiment of the song. It hasn't held up all that great (by comparison to its initial run) in the recurrent life, but, at the time, huge.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 28, 2013 14:48:09 GMT -5
Much like Whitney's "Exhale (Shoop Shoop)". 12 straight weeks in the top 2, but I wouldn't really call it one of her signature songs.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2013 14:52:14 GMT -5
"Exhale" gets decent recurrent play on Adult R&B, though. But, like OSD and Mimi/Boyz II men, it's not one of her top three most-played or anything.
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2013 15:08:29 GMT -5
I've always been convinced that if something like 2pac & Dr Dre's "California Love" was commercially released in February when it was cresting as an album track, it would have taken out Mariah & Boyz II Men at 12 weeks.
Timing is everything.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2013 15:15:39 GMT -5
^That's possible- and also very true, about timing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 15:25:27 GMT -5
How do U Want it got to #1 by virtue of California Love being the "B side" so yeah California Love would have been huge on this chart if released earlier
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Post by velaxti on Jul 28, 2013 15:38:41 GMT -5
Even if Lady Gaga and/or Katy Perry dethrone Blurred Lines, it's quite likely that it would re-climb to #1 the week afterwards.
What's the longest run at #1 in this century? I know I Gotta Feeling had 14 weeks, is that the highest?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 15:48:52 GMT -5
yes, it is also the highest ever (with the exception of One Sweet Day)
Macarena
I Will Always Love You
I'll Make Love To You
We Belong Together
I Gotta Feeling
All at 14 weeks
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2013 16:01:07 GMT -5
What was the longest run on a pre-Hot 100 Billboard pop-oriented singles chart? I have the book 9Pop memories), but it's at home.
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2013 16:08:36 GMT -5
Near You by Francis Craig from 1947 - 17 weeks. (Good tune!)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 16:11:41 GMT -5
How deep was the singles chart in 1947?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 28, 2013 16:14:48 GMT -5
How deep was the singles chart in 1947? Top 10. It became a top 15 in November of 1947. |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2013 16:17:21 GMT -5
Yeah, it was 15 deep at the time Near You was spending its last week at #1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 16:23:16 GMT -5
For some reason, I always thought that 13 weeks was the pre-Hot 100 record.
Note: I never bought the 'Pop Memories' book.
Which chart did the 17 weeks occur on (Best Sellers, Juke Box? , etc)
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 28, 2013 16:32:30 GMT -5
For some reason, I always thought that 13 weeks was the pre-Hot 100 record. Note: I never bought the 'Pop Memories' book. Which chart did the 17 weeks occur on (Best Sellers, Juke Box? , etc) Most Played By Jockeys chart (the airplay chart). I only count 12 weeks at #1 on the Best Sellers chart. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 16:39:23 GMT -5
So 13 may be accurate then..(as the pre-Hot 100 most weeks at #1 record) ?
Best Sellers chart is the 'official' chart that is usually referenced for these type of stats (Pre-Hot 100)
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 28, 2013 20:30:15 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2013 20:50:38 GMT -5
That article is way off- firstly, BL isn't near 242m in BDS numbers. And what are they talking about, saying the highest had been 188m?
As for pre-Hot 100, there wasn't really one "official" chart, pre-Hot 100, so any of those charts could claim a No. 1 (and however many weeks).
Speaking of pre-Hot 100; Bing Crosby's number of hits was pretty darn extraordinary.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 21:17:44 GMT -5
As for pre-Hot 100, there wasn't really one "official" chart, pre-Hot 100, so any of those charts could claim a No. 1 (and however many weeks). Speaking of pre-Hot 100; Bing Crosby's number of hits was pretty darn extraordinary. If this were 1947, I would agree, there could be as many as 4(or more?) official #1's in a given week. Anyway, records such as length of #1's, Elvis #1's etc, come from Best Sellers in Stores |
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 28, 2013 22:37:15 GMT -5
That article makes no damn sense. Lawd Jesus de Christo. They've been running that same article all week. I really hate when people who have absolutely no knowledge on airplay and how things work try and report about it. So you're gonna tell me that the song a 54 million impression lead over the past record.....and you're just now going to report it. I can't.
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Post by cesarams on Jul 29, 2013 8:38:25 GMT -5
MONDAY'S UPDATE:
1. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 251.826 (+ 1.348)
2. DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 174.291 (- 1.312)
3. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Radioactive: 154.577 (+ 0.347)
4. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 137.617 (- 1.200)
5. MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 130.260 (+ 1.589)
6. BRUNO MARS – Treasure: 125.634 (+ 1.417)
7. ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 108.889 (+ 0.879)
8. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Same Love f/Mary Lambert: 101.189 (+ 0.736)
9. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can't Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 98.612 (- 1.046)
10. JASON DERULO – The Other Side: 91.661 (+ 0.659)
11. ANNA KENDRICK – Cups (Pitch Perfect's When…: 90.568 (+ 1.100) ▲
12. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 88.498 (- 1.633) ▼
13. CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 83.072 (+ 1.243)
14. CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 80.354 (+ 0.422)
15. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Cruise f/Nelly: 76.178 (- 0.703)
16. PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 72.233 (+ 0.351) ▲
17. RIHANNA – Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 71.782 (- 0.715) ▼
18. RANDY HOUSER – Runnin' Outta Moonlight: 64.310 (+ 0.807) ▲
19. ICONA POP – I Love It f/Charli XCX: 64.272 (- 0.965) ▼
20. KIP MOORE – Hey Pretty Girl: 64.185 (+ 0.116) ▼
OTHERS:
SELENA GOMEZ – Come & Get It: 62.276 (- 1.281)
HUNTER HAYES – I Want Crazy: 60.438 (+ 0.143)
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Take Back The Night: 56.986 (+ 2.278)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 56.118 (+ 0.512)
RIHANNA – Right Now f/David Guetta: 55.200 (+ 0.268)
MILEY CYRUS – We Can't Stop: 50.343 (+ 0.533)
JAY Z – Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 45.623 (+ 1.334)
KENNY CHESNEY – When I See This Bar: 34.282 (+ 0.209)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Turn The Night Up: 27.907 (+ 2.945)
AUSTIN MAHONE – What About Love: 25.360 (- 0.235)
LANA DEL REY – Summertime Sadness: 22.057 (+ 1.026)
TAYLOR SWIFT – Everything Has …f/Ed Sheeran: 19.894 (+ 0.955)
PINK – True Love f/Lily Allen: 18.785 (+ 0.824)
PARAMORE – Still Into You: 15.963 (+ 1.176)
ONE DIRECTION – Best Song Ever: 11.422 (+ 0.858)
KINGS OF LEON – Supersoaker: 6.286 (+ 0.005)
PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 5.794 (+ 0.675)
BASTILLE – Pompeii: 5.059 (- 0.058)
TEGAN & SARA – Closer: 2.919
ARIANA GRANDE – Baby I: 1.962
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