Billboard Hot 100 : 9/7/2013

[ss8]

great point and couldnt agree more. That 2001-04/05 era was positively infested with not just rap and hip hop (briefly the new 'pop') but BAD rap and hip hop. Absolutely sh*tty songs for the most part that get next to no recurrent airplay. And yes, it was the peak of radio controlling everything (again w/out ANY variety). Dance/pop was more dead on US radio during that time than disco was by 1983. Ill never forget when 'Everytime We Touch' went top 10 in 2006 and You're Beautiful and Bad Day hit #1 (two non rap/hip hop songs sung by white British guys lol) in the same year what a big deal it was lol. Showed the radio was slowly starting to mix it up again. It was simply a strange period w/ the biggest lack of diversity ever. There was clearly a backlash which was why by 2007 digital singles exploded and the charts were way more similar to today than just 3 years before. 

[3m3r7c]

So people in the know what is the prediction for #1 on Thursday Robin Thicke or Katy Perry?

[Au$tin]

Robin.

[Soulsista]

Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

9/9/78

01 03 Boogie Oogie Oogie - A Taste Of Honey (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Three Times a Lady - The Commodores
03 04 Hot Blooded - Foreigner
04 05 Hopelessly Devoted To You - Olivia Newton-John
05 07 Kiss You All Over - Exile
06 01 Grease - Frankie Valli
07 08 An Everlasting Love - Andy Gibb
08 15 Summer Nights - John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John & Cast of Grease
09 10 Shame - Evelyn "Champagne" King
10 11 Got To Get You Into My Life - Earth, Wind & Fire


9/10/83

01 02 Maniac - Michael Sembello (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) - The Eurythmics
03 06 Safety Dance - Men Without Hats
04 04 Puttin' On The Ritz - Taco
05 07 Tell Her About It - Billy Joel
06 03 Every Breath You Take - The Police
07 05 She Works Hard For The Money - Donna Summer
08 15 Total Eclipse Of The Heart - Bonnie Tyler
09 10 Human Nature - Michael Jackson
10 09 I'll Tumble 4 Ya - Culture Club


9/10/88

01 02 Sweet Child O' Mine - Guns N' Roses (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 03 Simply Irresistible - Robert Palmer
03 06 Perfect World - Huey Lewis & The News
04 01 Monkey - George Michael
05 08 When It's Love - Van Halen
06 07 Fast Car - Tracy Chapman
07 10 I'll Always Love You - Taylor Dayne
08 09 If It Isn't Love - New Edition
09 15 Don't Worry, Be Happy - Bobby McFerrin
10 13 Nobody's Fool - Kenny Loggins


9/4/93

01 01 Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40 (7th and final week at #1)
02 03 Dreamlover - Mariah Carey
03 02 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
04 04 Lately - Jodeci
05 05 Runaway Train - Soul Asylum
06 07 If - Janet Jackson
07 11 Right Here (Human Nature)/Downtown - SWV
08 12 Will You Be There - Michael Jackson
09 06 I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers
10 09 If I Had No Loot - Tony! Toni! Tone!

[Verisimilitude]

Love that 1-2-3 punch of synthpop in 1983's top 3!

[HolidayGuy]

Also, when airplay-only tracks weren't eligible for the Hot 100, a number of R&B/hip-hop tracks charted decently in 1998, when their Hot 100 Airplay showing wasn't the greatest (before urban stations were added to the mix). But that wasn'[t so much an urban dominance so much as it was labels withholding the hits from retail and, in turn, the Hot 100.

On the flip side, look at all the hits on the black singles chart, that didn't fare the best on the Hot 100, back in the 80s and early 90s (not sure about pre-80s). So, it's like, the hip-hop dominance was making up for the past, when urban music wasn't burning up the charts, as a whole.

[brady47]

Aug 27, 2013 18:37:15 GMT -5 ss8 said:

great point and couldnt agree more. That 2001-04/05 era was positively infested with not just rap and hip hop (briefly the new 'pop') but BAD rap and hip hop. Absolutely sh*tty songs for the most part that get next to no recurrent airplay. And yes, it was the peak of radio controlling everything (again w/out ANY variety). Dance/pop was more dead on US radio during that time than disco was by 1983. Ill never forget when 'Everytime We Touch' went top 10 in 2006 and You're Beautiful and Bad Day hit #1 (two non rap/hip hop songs sung by white British guys lol) in the same year what a big deal it was lol. Showed the radio was slowly starting to mix it up again. It was simply a strange period w/ the biggest lack of diversity ever. There was clearly a backlash which was why by 2007 digital singles exploded and the charts were way more similar to today than just 3 years before. 

Agreed. But Daniel Powter is Canadian not British

I love it when all these European songs become huge in the US (STIUTK last year, Let Her Go by Passenger and Wake Me Up)

[brady47]

So many huge number two singles last year - Payphone, Wide Awake, Lights!

And I love Where is the Love? from 10 years ago, the song that put BEP on the map! And Beyonce smashing her solo career with two MEGA hits in the top 10!

And Torn climbing back up after 11 weeks at #1 on Radio Songs? SMASH! Even passing The Boy Is Mine (I'm pretty shocked that wasn't an airplay number one considering how huge it was on the Hot 100)

[SPRΞΞ]

Aug 27, 2013 19:01:05 GMT -5 3m3r7c said:

So people in the know what is the prediction for #1 on Thursday Robin Thicke or Katy Perry?

Well....

(278M - 97M) x 0.81 ~ 146M AI separating the 2. Streaming is almost identical. So if Katy sells over 175k (roughly) more than him, she'll have the #1. Super close. Next week is surely on lock for Katy with BL tumbling now.
He's not going to gain anymore. He's onto the next single.

[TylerG11]

Robin has it this week, but next week will be Katy for sure.

[ListenToItTwice]

Aug 27, 2013 23:28:52 GMT -5 TylerG11 said:

Robin has it this week, but next week will be Katy for sure.

12 weeks is quite a run, though.

[SPRΞΞ]

Aug 27, 2013 23:28:52 GMT -5 TylerG11 said:

Robin has it this week, but next week will be Katy for sure.

[TylerG11]

Aug 27, 2013 23:33:02 GMT -5 ListenToItTwice said:

Aug 27, 2013 23:28:52 GMT -5 TylerG11 said:

Robin has it this week, but next week will be Katy for sure.

12 weeks is quite a run, though.

Indeed it is! I was hoping for 20 though ;)

[SPRΞΞ]

If Katy wasn't involved, I'd say it would've gotten a free ride until Britney came, which would've been 15 or 16, or possibly even 17.

[ss8]

I agree but he'd still need an entire month (4 more weeks just to tie One Sweet Day) and if Eninems song gets insane 1st week #s followed by a video in the next week or two, he couldve also prevented him from getting another month at #1. The true test will be to see if he falls to #2 this or next week how many he stays there (if he does).If he stays at #2 for the next 5+ weeks, then if it wasn't for Katy, he def. would broken the record which would be a pity that he didn't. It's almost better if he falls out  of the top 2 in the next few weeks so he doesnt have to say '"if only etc.." 

[colson]

It's ridiculous to say if so and so didn't release a song that BL would stay at #1 for 16+ weeks. That's like saying if I Gotta Feeling was released 2 or 3 weeks before it was that it would have been at #1 for 16 or 17 weeks. In music, there are always extenuating circumstances that can effect any huge hits chart run at the top.

[Duca]

1. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 277.990 (-2.345)
2. MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 152.551 (-0.108)
3. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Radioactive: 139.772 (-1.410)
4. ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 134.739 (+0.275)
5. BRUNO MARS – Treasure: 130.408 (-1.741)
6. CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 122.326 (+1.606)
7. DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 116.519 (-1.496)
8. ANNA KENDRICK – Cups (Pitch Perfect’s When…: 111.955 (-0.530)
9. JAY Z – Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 103.886 (+1.423)
10. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Same Love f/Mary Lambert: 99.609 (-1.123)
11. KATY PERRY – Roar: 96.346 (+2.236) ▲
12. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 93.201 (-1.080) ▼
13. CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 92.192 (+1.269)
14. LANA DEL REY – Summertime Sadness: 89.684 (+2.486)
15. PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 77.008 (-0.112)
16. JASON DERULO – The Other Side: 69.292 (-1.714)
17. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can’t Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 67.213 (-0.849) ▲
18. MILEY CYRUS – We Can’t Stop: 67.115 (-0.054) ▲
19. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 66.719 (-1.754) ▼
20. KEITH URBAN – Little Bit Of Everything: 65.556 (+0.189)

JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Take Back The Night: 63.487 (+0.231)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 60.084 (-1.688)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Round Here: 59.514 (+0.592)
DRAKE – Hold On We’re Going Home: 58.479 (+1.931)
EASTON CORBIN – All Over The Road: 56.842 (+0.273)
J. COLE – Crooked Smile f/TLC: 56.345 (+0.563)
JUSTIN MOORE – Point At You: 52.961 (+0.249)
AVICII – Wake Me Up: 49.909 (+2.009)
LADY GAGA – Applause: 47.255 (+0.444)
LORDE – Royals: 46.483 (+2.229)
TAYLOR SWIFT – Everything Has …f/Ed Sheeran: 37.639 (+0.630)
KENNY CHESNEY – When I See This Bar: 36.098 (+0.142)
PINK – True Love f/Lily Allen: 35.173 (-0.087)
ONE DIRECTION – Best Song Ever: 28.218 (+0.557)
CHRIS BROWN – Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 27.829 (+0.506)
PARAMORE – Still Into You: 27.251 (+0.306)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Turn The Night Up: 25.412 (-0.423)
ROBIN THICKE – Give It 2 U f/Kendrick Lamar: 20.382 (+0.688)
IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 15.905 (+0.311)
FLO RIDA – Can’t Believe It f/Pitbull: 15.022 (+0.164)
PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 11.450 (+0.244)
CASSADEE POPE – Wasting All These Tears: 9.154 (+0.035)
EMINEM – Berzerk: 9.026 (+7.397)
SELENA GOMEZ – Slow Down: 7.510 (+0.556)
BASTILLE – Pompeii: 7.272 (+0.020)
DAFT PUNK – Lose Yourself To Dance: 2.721 (+0.164)
TWO DOOR CINEMA CLUB – Changing Of The Seasons: 0.035

[Enigma.]

Aug 28, 2013 4:48:32 GMT -5 colson said:

It's ridiculous to say if so and so didn't release a song that BL would stay at #1 for 16+ weeks. That's like saying if I Gotta Feeling was released 2 or 3 weeks before it was that it would have been at #1 for 16 or 17 weeks. In music, there are always extenuating circumstances that can effect any huge hits chart run at the top.

I agree, but at the same time some weeks are more competitive than others and peak position (number 1, 2 or 3; reaching top ten or peaking at 11, 12) can be determined by pure luck.

Also, it's pretty much impossible to say whether a #3 hit is always bigger than a song peaking at #6 or not. It depends on so many things.

[Deleted]

Aug 28, 2013 5:43:48 GMT -5 Duca said:

1. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 277.990 (-2.345)
18. MILEY CYRUS – We Can’t Stop: 67.115 (-0.054) ▲
LADY GAGA – Applause: 47.255 (+0.444)
EMINEM – Berzerk: 9.026 (+7.397)

OMG

[colson]

After that drop by BL, Roar should be moving in for the kill next week.

[Deleted]

Aug 28, 2013 6:34:01 GMT -5 colson said:

After that drop by BL, Roar should be moving in for the kill next week.

next week?
the difference is 278-96=182!
if BL decreases 5m everyday(-5),and roar gains 3m everyday(+3),it'll take 182/8=23 days for roar to kill BL!!!

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Aug 28, 2013 7:46:04 GMT -5 @smirjal said:

Aug 28, 2013 6:34:01 GMT -5 colson said:

After that drop by BL, Roar should be moving in for the kill next week.

next week?
the difference is 278-96=182!
if BL decrease 5m everyday(-5),and roar gains 3m everyday(+3),it takes 182/8=23 days for roar to kill BL!!!

Colson means on the H100.

[colson]

Yeah I thought this was the Hot 100 thread.

[Deleted]

Aug 28, 2013 7:53:02 GMT -5 colson said:

Yeah I thought this was the Hot 100 thread.

sorry I misunderstood!

[Deleted]

Aug 28, 2013 7:53:02 GMT -5 colson said:

Yeah I thought this was the Hot 100 thread.

Well, technically it's also the Airplay thread

[imbondz]

Aug 27, 2013 19:14:59 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

9/10/88

01 02 Sweet Child O' Mine - Guns N' Roses (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 03 Simply Irresistible - Robert Palmer
03 06 Perfect World - Huey Lewis & The News
04 01 Monkey - George Michael
05 08 When It's Love - Van Halen
06 07 Fast Car - Tracy Chapman
07 10 I'll Always Love You - Taylor Dayne
08 09 If It Isn't Love - New Edition
09 15 Don't Worry, Be Happy - Bobby McFerrin
10 13 Nobody's Fool - Kenny Loggins

Huey Lewis And the News last big hit Perfect World. I loved them back in the day! Anyone else fans of theirs?

[HolidayGuy]

^Not a BIG fan, but I don't turn the station if a HL&TN hit comes on. :)

[SPRΞΞ]

Aug 28, 2013 6:34:01 GMT -5 colson said:

After that drop by BL, Roar should be moving in for the kill next week.

Or even today.

[Pikachu.]

KATY'S SUSTAINED 'ROAR' ON DIGITAL SONGS CHART

Over on the Digital Songs chart, Katy Perry's "Roar" keeps holding firm at No. 1, selling another 392,000 downloads in its second week (down 30%).

Thicke's "Blurred Lines" (featuring T.I. and Pharrell Williams) is steady at No. 2 with 251,000 (down 14%), while Avicii's breakout hit "Wake Me Up!" climbs 7-3 with 175,000 (up 27%).

Jay Z's "Holy Grail," featuring Justin Timberlake, remains at No. 4 (171,000; down 4%), and Lady Gaga's "Applause" slips 3-5 with 163,000 (down 25% in its second week).

Lorde's "Royals" makes a swift 10-6 jump with 145,000 sold (up 35%). The song is currently in its third week at No. 1 on the Alternative airplay chart and also jumps 39-27 on the Pop Songs airplay tally (known as Mainstream Top 40 on Billboard.biz).

Miley Cyrus' "We Can't Stop" descends 6-7 with 143,000 (down 3%), and Lana Del Rey & Cedric Gervais' "Summertime Sadness" scoots 9-8 with 132,000 (up 12%).

Luke Bryan's "That's My Kind of Night" retreats 5-9 with 125,000 (down 24%), and Imagine Dragons' "Radioactive" slips 8-10 with 115,000 (down 4%).

Overall album sales in this past chart week (ending Aug. 25) totaled 4.9 million units, down 4% compared with the sum last week (5.1 million) and down 3% compared with the comparable sales week of 2012 (5 million). Year-to-date album sales stand at 181 million, down 6% compared with the same total at this point last year (192.5 million).

Digital track sales this past week totaled 22.1 million downloads, down 4% compared with last week (23.1 million) and down 6% stacked next to the comparable week of 2012 (23.5 million). Year-to-date track sales are at 865.4 million, down 3% compared with the same total at this point last year (893.7 million).

[popstop]

Oh, hm, yeah with those numbers, Robin takes it. Thought Katy would double Robin again.