Tim McGraw Leads wth 6 ACM Nominations

[jimmy74747]

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[WhySoSerious?]

Glad Sara Evans got into Album of the Year, otherwise blah.

No Reba nom in Top Female Vocalist. >:(

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As usual, pathetic nominations.

The usual favorites.

...and another Shania Twain snub. How shocking?!

It pays to be a Nashville puppet and make sure Nashville gets big bucks off of everything you do, no matter how little it is.



Anyone want to know who's going to win? I already know who is going to win.

Same people every time.

[jmonla]

The only real surprise (and a GREAT one, IMO) .....

Lee Ann Womack for Female Vocalist, and "I May Hate Myself in the Morning" for Song and Single....

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TCorey said:

Glad Sara Evans got into Album of the Year, otherwise blah.

You're happy that the best the ACM voters could come up with for Album of the Year for their 2005 ACM awards is an album {"Restless"} that was released on August 19, 2003? :o

Her album is almost 2 Years old.

That is the best the ACM voters could come up with?


What happened to the eligibility period that the ACM awards had/have?  Did they drop the rules or do they just ignore them?

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Toby Keith is the first confirmed performer for the ACM awards.

I got the info. from this Toby article:

A big load of Toby[/size][/color]
-- Toby Keith was the keynote speaker at the annual Country Radio Seminar in Nashville this morning -- and besides the usual grumblings about award shows and record labels, he dropped a couple of interesting new tidbits.

One being: As part of this may's ACM Awards, Toby will perform live via satellite from Baghdad. He says the idea came from the military.

He also told the radio folks that he has only one album left on his Dreamworks/Universal contract. After that, he plans on parting ways with the label to form his own publishing company and record label with two partners -- his manager and another un-named guy. (All rumors point to a pretty well known Music Row cat with the initials J.S.)

As for the rumors that he's up for the part of narrator in the remake of the "Dukes of Hazzard" -- Toby told reporters following his announcment duties for this morning's ACM nominations -- "I'll have to see the movie, it if looks too 'yee-haw' and goofy.... I know that the original series was fun but, if they turn it into a spoof of the orginal Dukes, I dont know..."

(Thanks to "Country Music Across America's" Storme Warren for this most excellent report).


www.countrynation.com/

[WhySoSerious?]

MusicSTFan said:

You're happy that the best the ACM voters could come up with for Album of the Year for their 2005 ACM awards is an album {"Restless"} that was released on August 19, 2003? :o

Her album is almost 2 Years old.

That is the best the ACM voters could come up with?


What happened to the eligibility period that the ACM awards had/have?  Did they drop the rules or do they just ignore them?

Yep the album's great.  Deserves to be there.  No worse than the CMAs nominating songs for Song of the Year a year after they were nominated for Single of the Year. *Shrugs*

[BlueAcoustic]

Wasn't "American Soldier" nominated LAST year already too... why is it on the list again???

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If you go to the ACM website and download the correct PDF files, you'll see that "Restless" can be nominated because it obtained it's highest chart success during the 2004 calendar year.

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The following is the complete list of 2005 ACM nominees.


ENTERTAINER OF THE YEAR[/U]
BROOKS & DUNN
KENNY CHESNEY
TOBY KEITH
TIM McGRAW
KEITH URBAN

TOP MALE VOCALIST[/U]
KENNY CHESNEY
ALAN JACKSON
TOBY KEITH
TIM McGRAW
KEITH URBAN

TOP FEMALE VOCALIST[/U]
TERRI CLARK
SARA EVANS
MARTINA McBRIDE
GRETCHEN WILSON
LEE ANN WOMACK

TOP NEW ARTIST[/U]
BIG & RICH
JOSH GRACIN
JULIE ROBERTS
JOSH TURNER
GRETCHEN WILSON

TOP VOCAL GROUP[/U]
ALISON KRAUSS & UNION STATION
DIAMOND RIO
LONESTAR
RASCAL FLATTS
THE NOTORIOUS CHERRY BOMBS

TOP VOCAL DUO[/U]
BIG & RICH
BLUE COUNTY
BROOKS & DUNN
MONTGOMERY GENTRY
THE WARREN BROTHERS

SINGLE RECORD OF THE YEAR [Award to Artist(s)/Producer(s)/Record Company][/U]
BLESS THE BROKEN ROAD
RASCAL FLATTS
PRODUCERS: MARK BRIGHT, MARTY WILLIAMS, RASCAL FLATTS
LYRIC STREET RECORDS

DAYS GO BY
KEITH URBAN
PRODUCERS: DANN HUFF & KEITH URBAN
CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE

I MAY HATE MYSELF IN THE MORNING
LEE ANN WOMACK
PRODUCER: BYRON GALLIMORE
MCA NASHVILLE

LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
TIM MCGRAW
PRODUCERS: TIM McGRAW, BYRON GALLIMORE, DARRAN SMITH
CURB RECORDS

REDNECK WOMAN
GRETCHEN WILSON
PRODUCERS: MARK WRIGHT & JOE SCAIFE
ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: JOHN RICH
EPIC

WHISKEY LULLABY
BRAD PAISLEY (FEATURING ALISON KRAUSS)
PRODUCER: FRANK ROGERS
ARISTA NASHVILLE

SONG OF THE YEAR [Award to Composer(s)/Publisher(s)/Artist(s)][/U]
AMERICAN SOLDIER
WRITERS: TOBY KEITH & CHUCK CANNON
TOKECO TUNES (BMI); WACISSA RIVER MUSIC, INC. (BMI) (ADMINISTERED BY
BPJ ADMINISTRATION)
TOBY KEITH

BLESS THE BROKEN ROAD
WRITERS: MARCUS HUMMON, BOBBY BOYD, JEFF HANNA
CAREERS-BMG MUSIC PUBLISHING, INC. (BMI) / FLOYD'S DREAM MUSIC (BMI)
ALL RIGHTS FOR THE U.S. ON BEHALF OF FLOYD'S DREAM MUSIC ADMIN. BY
CAREERS-BMG MUSIC PUBLISHING, JEFF DIGGS MUSIC (BMI) JEFF DIGGS MUSIC
ADMIN. Y BUG MUSIC
RASCAL FLATTS

I MAY HATE MYSELF IN THE MORNING
WRITER: ODIE BLACKMON
CAL IV SONGS, ADMIN BY CAL IV ENTERTAINMENT, LLC (ASCAP)
LEE ANN WOMACK

LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
WRITERS: CRAIG WISEMAN & TIM NICHOLS
BIG LOUD SHIRT (ASCAP) ICG/WARNER (BMI)
TIM MCGRAW

WHISKEY LULLABY
WRITERS: BILL ANDERSON & JON RANDALL
SONY/ATV TREE PUBLISHING CO/MR. BUBBA MUSIC, INC. ADMIN BY SONY ATV
MUSIC PUB (BMI)/ REYNSONGPUB CORP. AMIN BY WRENSONG WHA YA SAY MUSIC
ADMIN BY WRENSONG (BMI)
BRAD PAISLEY (FEATURING ALISON KRAUSS)

ALBUM OF THE YEAR [Award to Artist(s)/Producer(s)/Record Company][/U]
BE HERE
KEITH URBAN
PRODUCERS: DANN HUFF & KEITH URBAN
CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE

HERE FOR THE PARTY
GRETCHEN WILSON
PRODUCERS: MARK WRIGHT & JOE SCAIFE
ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: JOHN RICH
EPIC

LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
TIM MCGRAW
PRODUCERS: TIM McGRAW, BYRON GALLIMOR, DARRAN SMITH
CURB RECORDS

RESTLESS
SARA EVANS
PRODUCERS: SARA EVANS & PAUL WORLEY
THE RCA RECORDS LABEL

WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN
KENNY CHESNEY
PRODUCERS: BUDDY CANNON & KENNY CHESNEY
BNA RECORDS

VOCAL EVENT OF THE YEAR [Award to Artist(s)/Producer(s)/Record Company][/U]
CREEPIN' IN
NORAH JONES AND DOLLY PARTON
PRODUCED BY: ARIF MARDIN AND NORAH JONES
BLUE NOTE/ CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE

HEY GOOD LOOKIN'
JIMMY BUFFET WITH CLINT BLACK, KENNY CHESNEY, ALAN JACKSON, TOBY KEITH
AND GEORGE STRAIT
PRODUCED BY: MICHAEL UTLEY & MAC MCANALLY
THE RCA RECORDS LABEL NASHVILLE

PARTY FOR TWO
SHANIA TWAIN WITH BILLY CURRINGTON
PRODUCED BY: ROBERT "MUTT" LANGE
MERCURY RECORDS

WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN
KENNY CHESNEY (DUET WITH UNCLE KRACKER)
PRODUCED BY: BUDDY CANNON & KENNY CHESNEY
BNA RECORDS

WHISKEY LULLABY
BRAD PAISLEY (FEATURING ALISON KRAUSS)
PRODUCED BY: FRANK ROGERS
ARISTA NASHVILLE

VIDEO OF THE YEAR [Award to Producer(s)/Director(s)/Artist(s)][/U]
GIRLS LIE TOO
PRODUCER: ROBIN RUCKER
DIRECTOR: SHAUN SILVA
ARTIST: TERRI CLARK

LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
PRODUCER: SHERMAN HALSEY
DIRECTOR: SHERMAN HALSEY
ARTIST: TIM McGRAW

REDNECK WOMAN
PRODUCER: ANASTASIA SPENCER
DIRECTOR: DAVID HOGAN
ARTIST: GRETCHEN WILSON

SAVE A HORSE (RIDE A COWBOY)
PRODUCER: ROBERT DEATON, GEORGE FLANIGEN, MARC OSWALD, STEVE LAMAR
DIRECTOR: DAVID HOGAN
ARTIST: BIG & RICH

WHISKEY LULLABY
PRODUCER: DON LEPORE
DIRECTOR: RICK SCHRODER
BRAD PAISLEY( FEATURING ALISON KRAUSS)


HOME DEPOT HUMANITARIAN AWARD[/U]
DIAMOND RIO
NEAL McCOY
BRAD PAISLEY


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[jimmy74747]

MY PREDICTIONS (and also thanks to TCorey for correcting my CMA to ACM)

ENTERTAINER OF THE YEAR[/U]
KENNY CHESNEY


TOP MALE VOCALIST[/U]
TIM McGRAW


TOP FEMALE VOCALIST[/U]
SARA EVANS

TOP NEW ARTIST[/U]
GRETCHEN WILSON

TOP VOCAL GROUP[/U]
RASCAL FLATTS


TOP VOCAL DUO[/U]
BIG & RICH

SINGLE RECORD OF THE YEAR [Award to Artist(s)/Producer(s)/Record Company][/U]
LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
TIM MCGRAW
PRODUCERS: TIM McGRAW, BYRON GALLIMORE, DARRAN SMITH
CURB RECORDS

SONG OF THE YEAR [Award to Composer(s)/Publisher(s)/Artist(s)][/U]
LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
WRITERS: CRAIG WISEMAN & TIM NICHOLS
BIG LOUD SHIRT (ASCAP) ICG/WARNER (BMI)
TIM MCGRAW

ALBUM OF THE YEAR [Award to Artist(s)/Producer(s)/Record Company][/U]
LIVE LIKE YOU WERE DYING
TIM MCGRAW
PRODUCERS: TIM McGRAW, BYRON GALLIMOR, DARRAN SMITH
CURB RECORDS

VOCAL EVENT OF THE YEAR [Award to Artist(s)/Producer(s)/Record Company][/U]
WHISKEY LULLABY
BRAD PAISLEY (FEATURING ALISON KRAUSS)
PRODUCED BY: FRANK ROGERS
ARISTA NASHVILLE

VIDEO OF THE YEAR [Award to Producer(s)/Director(s)/Artist(s)][/U]
WHISKEY LULLABY
PRODUCER: DON LEPORE
DIRECTOR: RICK SCHRODER
BRAD PAISLEY( FEATURING ALISON KRAUSS)


HOME DEPOT HUMANITARIAN AWARD[/U]
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[Dustin J.]

As I look down this list, one of the first thoughts that actually pops into my head is... "What has happened to groups/bands in country music?" I don't want to say that they're virtually non-existent, but there are certainly fewer bands surviving in Nashville right now than ever before. It's a shame.

[luvhonkytonk]

Please say you're not serious about Big & Rich winning the duo catagory? I couldn't bear the thought of Brooks & Dunn losing to them. :'(

[musicbuff78]

luvhonkytonk said:

Please say you're not serious about Big & Rich winning the duo catagory? I couldn't bear the thought of Brooks & Dunn losing to them.  :'(

I can't stand the thought of B&D winning again.

Sara won't win Female Vocalist, but good to see her get a nod in that category.

[Love4Shania]

This is BS, Shania had the most successful Country tour by miles and it was during the eligibility period....why isn't she nominated for Entertainer Of The Year?

The ACM's are as bad as the CMA's, it is all industry politics and they ignore real success if it isn't within their little "group of favourites", the awards have no credability whatsoever!
Hell...the only difference between the CMA's and the ACM's is the location of the letters!

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Love4Shania said:

This is BS, Shania had the most successful Country tour by miles and it was during the eligibility period....why isn't she nominated for Entertainer Of The Year? 

The ACM's are as bad as the CMA's, it is all industry politics and they ignore real success if it isn't within their little "group of favourites", the awards have no credability whatsoever!
Hell...the only difference between the CMA's and the ACM's is the location of the letters! 

I agree. >:(

[WhySoSerious?]

They don't really think of her as a country artist, for better or worse.

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TCorey said:

They don't really think of her as a country artist, for better or worse.

Really? So, they think Martina McBride, Tim McGraw, Rascal Flatts and Keith Urban are more country than Shania? How hypocritical are the ACM voters?

Looking at that list of nominees, Shania belongs on the list More than 80% of the nominees.

Honestly. Rascal Flatts? Uncle Kracker? Keith Urban? Martina McBride? Tim McGraw?

All of those I just named, and more, have recently appeared, and continue to appear, on AC charts with and without REmixes. Even Keith Urban is a major AC player now.

If they are considered Country enough for awards, Shania should definitely be considered Country. She should receive fair treatment equal to that of other artists who have/continue to cross over.

Instead, Shania can't even get 1 nomination in a main category. She is overlooked by the award show voters in favor of other Cross Over artists who are now crossing over with REmixes, which Shania is criticized for doing.

If Martina McBride, Gretchen or any of the other industry's Favorite Females were to release the same exact music as Shania, they would be praised and rewarded with trophies.

Instead, Shania and her music are criticized and she is accused of not being country or, as you just said, not being a "country artist."

Martina, on the other hand, is releasing AC ballad-after-AC ballad, she's Crossing Over with and without Remixes, and she has never been questioned by them in regard to her being a Country artist. In fact, Martina has collected seven Female Vocalist trophies since she Started Crossing Over.

How many Female Vocalist trophies did Faith Hill collect before she started Crossing Over? Answer: Zero. How many Female Vocalist trophies did Martina collect before she started Crossing Over? Answer: Zero.

Same goes for Lee Ann Womack. She did not get her Female Vocalist trophy and Single/Song trophies until after she crossed over with a Remix of "I Hope You Dance."

Faith Hill's "This Kiss," "Breathe," and "The Way You Love Me" were country enough to rack up about 15 trophies; 13 of which were ACM trophies.

Martina's "I Love You," "Where Would You Be," "Whatever You Say," "Blessed," "There You Are," "Concrete Angel" and "This One's For the Girls" were/are all country enough for her to get 7 Female Vocalist trophies.

Big & Rich work with a RAPPER and it's considered 'innovative' and award-worthy. Shania works with Mutt and it's considered a crime.

Why does Shania's music make her less worthy of Country awards?

Shania has never been treated fairly by the industry. I had slim hope things were changing after she was named Entertainer of the Year in late 1999 at the CMAs. Sadly, I was very wrong.

She has the # 1 Country tour of the year, two top-selling cds, Top 10 singles and even had a Top 5.

That doesn't matter. Shania is still passed over for other artists who cross over with and without remixes, just like Shania.

You can't say that Shania is 'not a country artist' and then nominate someone like Martina.

If the voters don't consider Shania "country enough" or, as you said, a "country artist," then they are a bunch of Hypocrites with more messed up Politics than I've seen/heard of in any election.

[musicfan_84]

Shania fans are so ruthless!

[drock89]

musicfan_84 said:

Shania fans are so ruthless!

You know it!

Thank GOD Nelly didn't get a nomination. I would have died. Same ole sh*t MusicSTFan, just another day...

[WhySoSerious?]

musicfan_84 said:

Shania fans are so ruthless! 

LMAO. I know. I'm disappointed that Reba didn't get nominated, but I ain't going on a rampage.

Maybe I should though!! Maybe Reba isn't nominated because Nashville isn't making money from her WB sitcom! I bet they hate her for that. She should have hired some Nashville songwriters to be writers on her show to show her country support. And Nashville surely isn't making money off of her new clothing line. I bet that really burns their britches. I'm starting a damn petition!

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TCorey said:

They don't really think of her as a country artist, for better or worse.

If you don't want to read my long reply above this post, let me just give you the slightly shorter version:

It has nothing[/U] to do with being "country" or being considered a "country artist."

It's politics and money.

Nashville doesn't make much money at all off of Shania's success.  When her album(s) go Diamond, the amount of money they make off of her Diamond album probably doesn't even match what they would get if 'one of their own' had a Gold or Platinum album.

Shania is a Successful Outsider who got rich mainly without their help.  Her main help came from another Outsider.  He's from South Africa and he's famous for being a Rock producer.

When it comes to collecting money off of Shania's success, Nashville gets virtually nothing.

Shania and Mutt get the Songwriting money.  Mutt gets the Producing money.

Not much left for Nashville.

When it comes to brown-nosing to the industry folks, Shania and Mutt don't bother.  They don't go to industry parties.  They don't hold industry parties whenever one of Shania's albums gets an RIAA certification.  They don't go to other artists' parties to kiss up to other industry people.

That is what the industry hates about Shania and Mutt.

Being considered a "country artist" or being "country enough" has nothing to do with it.

It's just politics.  Slimy, financially motivated, angry politics.

[WhySoSerious?]

MusicSTFan said:

How hypocritical are the ACM voters?

Probably very. That's just how I think they feel.

[mbgriffith1]

Here's my take on Shania:

She isn't country... but I will agree that MANY of the nominees for the ACM's are not country (Tim, Martina, Keith, and the God-awful Rascal Flatts). I say none of them should be nominated.

Also, I REALLY REALLY REALLY wish that Shania and Martina would return to their country roots because they have amazing talent and great voices, and I loved their previous country works. I'm also not one of those people that loves only country music... I like a good pop record as long as its good (Lee Ann Womack's much criticized Something Worth Leaving Behind I really enjoyed), and I don't dislike the new Shania and Martina music... I just liked their old stuff alot better.

And about Restless: SO GLAD IT'S NOMINATED!!!!!!! DEFINITELY SHOULD WIN!!! She also deserves the win for Female Vocalist (Lee Ann Womack is great but only had one huge song)

And about I May Hate Myself: BETTER WIN OR ELSE...

ALISON KRUASS & UNION STATION should def. win best group. Their new CD is amazing. Love her stuff.

And I swear I will vomit repeatedly if Live Like You Were Dying (the most contrived piece of crap I've ever heard) wins any awards. That song is a cheap emotional ploy that ropes in idiots who like overused trite phrases, and like even more people who use trite phrases and pretend that they are original ideas. I HATE his new music... the last thing I liked was 'Angry All The Time'... back when he used to pick songs that were interesting and actually emotional rather than contrived crap.

and finally... is anybody else SHOCKED that Sugarland wasn't up for Group of the Year and New Artist of the Year???? Personally, I think they deserve a heck of a lot more than that... but at least they should have given them that. That's insulting. I mean why should Josh Gracin be nominated instead of them??

Overall, even though Sara and Lee Ann got some recognition these nominations sucked because I know exactly who's gonna win everything and its going to be boring and predictable like usual. The only thing that might be surprising if Big & Rich wins an award for Most Disgusting Attempt to Pass as Country Music of 2004.

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musicfan_84 said:

Shania fans are so ruthless! 

Not ruthless.

Just very Frustrated and Opinionated.

[jimmy74747]

Love4Shania said:

This is BS, Shania had the most successful Country tour by miles and it was during the eligibility period....why isn't she nominated for Entertainer Of The Year? 

Only by dollars. Kenny Chesney put more people in the seats, which matters most. Kenny entertained more people than Shania. He obviously cares about his fans and makes his concerts affordable, unlike other artists. ;)

[KMCB]

MusicSTFan said:

You're happy that the best the ACM voters could come up with for Album of the Year for their 2005 ACM awards is an album {"Restless"} that was released on August 19, 2003? :o

Her album is almost 2 Years old.

That is the best the ACM voters could come up with?


What happened to the eligibility period that the ACM awards had/have?  Did they drop the rules or do they just ignore them?

The ACMs have always lacked great attention to the period. If they are going to do so, then yes, I am *so* happy Sara's incredible album is getting its due recognition. It's nice to see more ladies in the running for other categories.

[automyskin89]

take
it
down
my
country
fans

[KMCB]

mbgriffith1 said:

Here's my take on Shania:

She isn't country... but I will agree that MANY of the nominees for the ACM's are not country (Tim, Martina, Keith, and the God-awful Rascal Flatts). I say none of them should be nominated.

I am so tired of hearing this. Except for Martina and Shania, all of these people have country ALL OVER their voices. Just because every song isn't accompanied by a fiddle and about a truck stop romance doesn't mean they are not country. I am happy that some talented people got nominated and not everything is being handed to the mediocre vocals of TK and KC :)

[drock89]

jimmy74747 said:

Only by dollars. Kenny Chesney put more people in the seats, which matters most. Kenny entertained more people than Shania. He obviously cares about his fans and makes his concerts affordable, unlike other artists. ;)

Umm..excuse me but she played more dates in 2004. And should all the European dates be included, she would have not only played more, but sold more tickets, and made more money. Should she be EOTY? Her radio success is out-measured but she has tour and albums.

I don't really care that she didn't get nominated. It obviously doesn't effect her or her sales too much.