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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 9:31:01 GMT -5
What "new rules"? Anybody got an article that says they are now defining what a #1 is differently. The list posed has always been that way, before any "new rules"
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 7, 2013 9:31:34 GMT -5
Combing for those purposes does make it confusing/tricky, hence why Billboard doesn't bother. ha
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 9:38:06 GMT -5
What "new rules"? Anybody got an article that says they are now defining what a #1 is differently. The list posed has always been that way, before any "new rules" Relax. Nothing's changed. Was just taking this idea to its logical conclusion. |
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Post by ss8 on Nov 7, 2013 9:59:58 GMT -5
like i asked in the Monster thread, if this goes to #1 Rihanna will or will NOT be included? As I also said, its def. more of a duet than 'featuring' lol. So, if they wouldve dropped the 'feat' part and made it Em AND Rihanna, that would give her equal credit? No doubt someone on Rihannas team (either way) is on this like white on rice this very second lol cause this song def. reeks from a future #1. Rihannas versus are VERY prominent and make the song. It would be counted as a #1 for her by Billboard (if it happens). But because it is a featuring, she will only get 30% of the points for it, and Eminem will get the other 70%. On the other hand, according to chart archivist Joel Whitburn, it would not be considered a #1 for her. So it varies based on who is doing the compiling. Huh? Was there a new 'rule' recently and officially implemented? Just a bit confused as youre saying Billboard would count it but not Joel Whitburn lol. I'm assuming Billboard (obviously what's more important) would count it and it would it just be Joel who 'personally' wouldnt credit her? Isnt he the one who (a few years ago) had that long article about Elvis only having 17 instead of 18 #1s etc. Even though he works for Billboard and has large role in chart discussions he's not the one actually making 'rules', correct? |
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Post by goulding2266 on Nov 7, 2013 10:05:33 GMT -5
So is ellie gouldins burn ever goin to reach top 40? Its takin a good while here and it needs to be a hit or is this goin to flop like ACH did? Hopefully it gets a new pk next wk
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 10:08:34 GMT -5
It would be counted as a #1 for her by Billboard (if it happens). But because it is a featuring, she will only get 30% of the points for it, and Eminem will get the other 70%. On the other hand, according to chart archivist Joel Whitburn, it would not be considered a #1 for her. So it varies based on who is doing the compiling. Huh? Was there a new 'rule' recently and officially implemented? Just a bit confused as youre saying Billboard would count it but not Joel Whitburn lol. I'm assuming Billboard (obviously what's more important) would count and it would it just be Joel who 'personally' who wouldnt credit her? I was just pointing out that different archivists might credit it differently. But for your purposes, all you need to know is that yes, Billboard would count it, but she would only get 30% of the points from it. BTW, points become important for artists when Billboard is compiling overall amount of points for each individual artist when they do one of their "Grestest of all time" articles, usually when landmark anniversaries are reached (the last time they did one was for the 55th anniversary of the Hot 100 last summer). |
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 7, 2013 10:14:03 GMT -5
It looks like "Sweeter Than Fiction" dropped off the BBHot100 after only one week.At least "Everything Has Changed" and "Red" are still holding onto spots on the Hot 100. :)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 10:17:10 GMT -5
Semantics.
Anyoe can state a "record" or a stat any way they'd like.
There is some attempts which are good attempts to adjust some stats to make them comparable to prior stats.
There is some acknowledgment now that a "featuring" is not the same as a duet, an artist can be "featured on a song and not sing a note. Is Lil Wayne really the most successful male solo artist of all time? Not really, if you downgrade featurings
There is some acknowledgment that the Glee Cast 200+ chart "hits" are not comparable to anything that came before it. There is some acknowledgment that the album called Teenage Dream generated six number ones but that is not comparable to anything that came before it so it is referred to as five.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 7, 2013 10:25:23 GMT -5
Beatles held the top 5 songs at one point back in the 1960s. There wasnt much competition then so....What an erroneous assumption. There was plenty of competition back then, the Beatles just steam rolled over all of it when they arrived on the chart. They were that popular in the early months of 1964, when they literally changed the face of popular music almost overnight. They also set off the British Invasion, and pop music in the United States was literally never the same. Like i said there was no competition. There wasnt as many genres or artists or things to compete with peoples attention. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 10:29:06 GMT -5
Might be confusing fragmentation of genres and more media outlets (youtube, itunes, etc) with more competition?
Song turnover was higher then than it is now
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 7, 2013 11:01:35 GMT -5
That top 10 is not to my tastes except for "Applause"
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 7, 2013 12:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by DJ General on Nov 7, 2013 15:15:03 GMT -5
Eminem has done something no artist has done in nearly 50 years.
He has scored four simultaneous hits in Billboard's Hot 100's Top 20 -- all as a lead artist. The last music act to have done that was the Beatles in 1964. Eminem's "Monster" is at No. 3, while "Berzerk," "Survival" and "Rap God" currently rank at 15, 16 and 17, respectively.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 7, 2013 16:30:48 GMT -5
Did Thriller re-enter last year?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 16:33:07 GMT -5
No
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 16:40:00 GMT -5
Note: I have been tracking all the Re-entries since the rule change in the Hot 100 Re-entries thread
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 7, 2013 16:44:21 GMT -5
YouTube and such wasn't part of the mix last Halloween, so that could have boosted things for "Thriller." That video was and is a cultural phenomenon, so it got a good amount of views last week (it's No. 20 on Streaming Songs).
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Post by DJ General on Nov 7, 2013 16:49:05 GMT -5
Did Baby Blue re-enter in september when breaking bad aired it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 16:54:13 GMT -5
No.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 7, 2013 17:03:25 GMT -5
Among other Halloween-boosted tracks, "Monster Mash" re-entered Recurrents at No. 7 (and debuted at 37 on Streaming Songs), while "Ghostbusters" re-entered the recurrent chart at No. 24.
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Post by DJ General on Nov 7, 2013 17:07:17 GMT -5
Even with all the digital singles sold and spotify/youtube streams? Wow. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 17:13:08 GMT -5
Among other Halloween-boosted tracks, "Monster Mash" re-entered Recurrents at No. 7 (and debuted at 37 on Streaming Songs), while "Ghostbusters" re-entered the recurrent chart at No. 24. "Monster Mash" has nothing left to prove. It was already #1 back when it was released, during Halloween 1962, and has also re-entered the chart on a couple of other occasions over the years as well. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 7, 2013 17:14:16 GMT -5
The week of the boost, "Baby Blue" debuted on Digital Songs at 32, but did not chart in the top 50 of Streaming Songs. It charted on Recurrents at No. 20.
Am very aware of that, 2m- same thing with "Ghostbusters." "Thriller" doesn't really have anything to "prove," either- not like it's going to get near its initial No. 4 Hot 100 peak.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 17:17:56 GMT -5
Eminem has done something no artist has done in nearly 50 years. He has scored four simultaneous hits in Billboard's Hot 100's Top 20 -- all as a lead artist. The last music act to have done that was the Beatles in 1964. Eminem's "Monster" is at No. 3, while "Berzerk," "Survival" and "Rap God" currently rank at 15, 16 and 17, respectively. The Beatles actually scored as many as 6 songs in the Billboard Hot 100 Top 20 in 1964, a record (among others) that they still hold. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 17:22:58 GMT -5
If you count featurings the 4 in the top 20 thing has been done, so has 4 in the top 10
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Post by DJ General on Nov 7, 2013 17:28:58 GMT -5
Eminem has done something no artist has done in nearly 50 years. He has scored four simultaneous hits in Billboard's Hot 100's Top 20 -- all as a lead artist. The last music act to have done that was the Beatles in 1964. Eminem's "Monster" is at No. 3, while "Berzerk," "Survival" and "Rap God" currently rank at 15, 16 and 17, respectively. The Beatles actually scored as many as 6 songs in the Billboard Hot 100 Top 20 in 1964, a record (among others) that they still hold. I'm just posting what other sites are reporting, it isn't my news. lol |
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Post by imbondz on Nov 7, 2013 17:33:41 GMT -5
love that Sweater Weather made the top 40. have liked that song for a while.
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Post by imbondz on Nov 7, 2013 17:35:25 GMT -5
I remember when Thriller flew up the charts to #4, then stopped. I never understood how that song didn't get to #1. It was huuuuuuuuuge when it was released, because of the video. Todays charts it would have been #1 for months.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 17:54:49 GMT -5
I remember when Thriller flew up the charts to #4, then stopped. I never understood how that song didn't get to #1. It was huuuuuuuuuge when it was released, because of the video. Todays charts it would have been #1 for months. Damn you're old! Then again, so am I. ;) Remember the night they premiered the video the first time? What a big deal it was? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 18:05:29 GMT -5
7th single. Everyone alreday had the album at least once. It would have done better as the lead single or at least in the first couple
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