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Post by Push The Button on Dec 13, 2013 13:59:20 GMT -5
I give it two weeks before radio ascends "Dark Horse" ahead of "Do What U Want."
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Post by josh on Dec 13, 2013 14:52:23 GMT -5
That's ~3.5 million per day "Dark Horse" has to gain on "Do What U Want." Highly unlikely.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2013 16:40:19 GMT -5
its official!!! the 2013 billboard year-end charts has been announced!! www.billboard.com/charts/year-endThe Top 10: 1. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis ft. Wanz - Thrift Shop 2. Robin Thicke ft. Pharell Williams & T.I. - Blurred Lines 3. Imagine Dragons - Radioactive 4. Bauuer - Harlem Shake 5. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis ft. Ray Dalton - Can't Hold Us 6. Justin Timberlake - Mirrors 7. Pink ft. Nate Ruess - Just Give Me A Reason 8. Bruno Mars - When I Was Your Man 9. Florida Georgina Line ft. Nelly - Cruise 10. Katy Perry - Roar Wow. I am shocked "BL" was #2 considering its staggering airplay. I guess "TS" outsold it by a lot? |
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Post by josh on Dec 13, 2013 16:54:30 GMT -5
By about 1 million or so.
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Post by alfonzo on Dec 13, 2013 17:56:43 GMT -5
The fact that Harlem Shake is anywhere near the year end top 10 should completely discredit Billboard. That song was a fad for about a month, with no longevity in sales and hardly any airplay to begin with.
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Post by ss8 on Dec 13, 2013 18:41:38 GMT -5
Harlem Shake shouldnt even be in the top 50 LOL! Silly, silly shady Billboard! Gangham Style is like a Beatles song (even if it was for just 8 minutes) compared to the overall atrocity/fluke/scam that was Harlem Shuffle. * At least Thrift Shop made up for those MANY well earned weeks it shoulda had at #1 w/ ending the year end chart at #1 (perhaps BB guilty consceince)? lol Even though I feel in my gut BL shoulda been #1 and TS #2, BL was a worldwide massive record breaker in endless ways for several months!! Song is tired as hell now and needs to go away for at least 3 years but is def. an already an early 2010s classic and imo 'the' top song when I think of 2013 followed by Thrift Shop and Get Lucky.
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 13, 2013 19:13:14 GMT -5
That's ~3.5 million per day "Dark Horse" has to gain on "Do What U Want." Highly unlikely. I was being facetious.  When "Unconditionally" can go top 10 in airplay with terrible call out scores and no single sales... |
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Post by 3m3r7c on Dec 13, 2013 20:09:57 GMT -5
It amazes me that Sail can sit at number 70 on iTunes (would be 60 when you take away talent show songs), have virtually no airplay and yet is considered by billboard to be the 35th biggest so g in the country. Somebody high up at billboard must really love that song
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Post by Lozzy on Dec 13, 2013 20:18:57 GMT -5
It amazes me that Sail can sit at number 70 on iTunes (would be 60 when you take away talent show songs), have virtually no airplay and yet is considered by billboard to be the 35th biggest so g in the country. Somebody high up at billboard must really love that song It's #41 on Digital Songs and #19 on Streaming Songs, and it's still in the top 25 on Alternative radio with recurrents included. |
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Post by Rocky on Dec 13, 2013 20:19:11 GMT -5
It amazes me that Sail can sit at number 70 on iTunes (would be 60 when you take away talent show songs), have virtually no airplay and yet is considered by billboard to be the 35th biggest so g in the country. Somebody high up at billboard must really love that song Have you not been here when it was top 20 on iTunes for months and slayed in on-demand streaming for years? I guess no. |
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Post by velaxti on Dec 13, 2013 20:43:14 GMT -5
The fact that Harlem Shake is anywhere near the year end top 10 should completely discredit Billboard. That song was a fad for about a month, with no longevity in sales and hardly any airplay to begin with. Yeah, it's a strange situation. However, in the UK we have songs doing this as well. We have charity songs that sell huge amounts for a couple of weeks and have little longevity (even less than Harlem Shake did in your chart) end up high on the year-end chart. Also campaign songs and X Factor at the end of the year for Christmas #1 also sell enough in just 2-3 weeks to be really high at year-end. For example, in 2009 we had two songs (The Climb and Killing in the Name) make the year-end top 10 based off just 3 weeks of really high sales at the end of the year. So even in an only sales chart this sort of thing happens. |
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Post by 3m3r7c on Dec 13, 2013 21:12:03 GMT -5
It amazes me that Sail can sit at number 70 on iTunes (would be 60 when you take away talent show songs), have virtually no airplay and yet is considered by billboard to be the 35th biggest so g in the country. Somebody high up at billboard must really love that song It's #41 on Digital Songs and #19 on Streaming Songs, and it's still in the top 25 on Alternative radio with recurrents included. Alternative radio is very small though. The song has less than 10 million total AI. I just checked though you are right 41 on digital. Shocking its iTunes rank is almost 30 spots lower |
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Post by 3m3r7c on Dec 13, 2013 21:13:02 GMT -5
It amazes me that Sail can sit at number 70 on iTunes (would be 60 when you take away talent show songs), have virtually no airplay and yet is considered by billboard to be the 35th biggest so g in the country. Somebody high up at billboard must really love that song Have you not been here when it was top 20 on iTunes for months and slayed in on-demand streaming for years? I guess no. All of that is irrelevant for its chart placement this week... |
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Post by Rocky on Dec 13, 2013 21:20:22 GMT -5
Have you not been here when it was top 20 on iTunes for months and slayed in on-demand streaming for years? I guess no. All of that is irrelevant for its chart placement this week... S-s-s-streaming.  Edit: But yeah, I agree. Bill loves that song. |
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Post by alfonzo on Dec 13, 2013 21:41:22 GMT -5
The fact that Harlem Shake is anywhere near the year end top 10 should completely discredit Billboard. That song was a fad for about a month, with no longevity in sales and hardly any airplay to begin with. Yeah, it's a strange situation. However, in the UK we have songs doing this as well. We have charity songs that sell huge amounts for a couple of weeks and have little longevity (even less than Harlem Shake did in your chart) end up high on the year-end chart. Also campaign songs and X Factor at the end of the year for Christmas #1 also sell enough in just 2-3 weeks to be really high at year-end. For example, in 2009 we had two songs (The Climb and Killing in the Name) make the year-end top 10 based off just 3 weeks of really high sales at the end of the year. So even in an only sales chart this sort of thing happens. See, that at least kind of makes sense. At least people liked those songs enough to buy them. as opposed to over here where people couldn't care less about the song; they were just watching a bunch of 30 second clips with it playing in the background. And Billboard thought that this was enough to take Harlem Shake to number one, with 5X the points of the second song. That is a seriously flawed formula if I ever saw one. |
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 13, 2013 21:45:29 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a strange situation. However, in the UK we have songs doing this as well. We have charity songs that sell huge amounts for a couple of weeks and have little longevity (even less than Harlem Shake did in your chart) end up high on the year-end chart. Also campaign songs and X Factor at the end of the year for Christmas #1 also sell enough in just 2-3 weeks to be really high at year-end. For example, in 2009 we had two songs (The Climb and Killing in the Name) make the year-end top 10 based off just 3 weeks of really high sales at the end of the year. So even in an only sales chart this sort of thing happens. See, that at least kind of makes sense. At least people liked those songs enough to buy them. as opposed to over here where people couldn't care less about the song; they were just watching a bunch of 30 second clips with it playing in the background. And Billboard thought that this was enough to take Harlem Shake to number one, with 5X the points of the second song. That is a seriously flawed formula if I ever saw one. But would those videos still had been popular if the song playing in the background was, say, "Ho Hey," "I Knew You Were Trouble.," "Suit & Tie," or "Stay"? "Harlem Shake" did play a part in the popularity of those videos. And it's not like "Harlem Shake" completely flopped outside of the videos. It did sell over 2 million copies. |
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Post by alfonzo on Dec 13, 2013 21:50:58 GMT -5
See, that at least kind of makes sense. At least people liked those songs enough to buy them. as opposed to over here where people couldn't care less about the song; they were just watching a bunch of 30 second clips with it playing in the background. And Billboard thought that this was enough to take Harlem Shake to number one, with 5X the points of the second song. That is a seriously flawed formula if I ever saw one. But would those videos still had been popular if the song playing in the background was, say, "Ho Hey," "I Knew You Were Trouble.," "Suit & Tie," or "Stay"? "Harlem Shake" did play a part in the popularity of those videos. And it's not like "Harlem Shake" completely flopped outside of the videos. It did sell over 2 million copies. Of course they wouldn't have been as popular with another song playing, the whole meme was structured around the bass drop halfway through the video. Although really any dubstep song could have been substituted in the place of Harlem Shake, and the video would still have had the same effect. My point is that a 30 second clip should not count as a full stream of the song. I know this argument has probably been made a thousand times on here, but it still annoys me. Thrift Shop should have had 11 weeks at #1! |
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Post by josh on Dec 13, 2013 21:52:06 GMT -5
At least TS got the year end #1.  |
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Post by Rocky on Dec 14, 2013 7:39:41 GMT -5
1. EMINEM – The Monster f/Rihanna: 182.257 (+ 0.456) 2. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 165.148 (- 2.589) 3. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 164.931 (- 0.146) 4. ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 156.275 (+ 1.060)5. LORDE – Royals: 150.011 (- 2.565) 6. DRAKE – Hold On We’re, Going Home: 133.502 (- 3.464) 7. MILEY CYRUS – Wrecking Ball: 105.986 (- 3.522) 8. PITBULL – Timber f/Ke$ha: 103.987 (+ 1.582)9. KATY PERRY – Unconditionally: 81.463 (- 2.306) 10. PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 81.401 (+ 0.584) ▲ 11. KATY PERRY – Roar: 81.343 (- 1.466) ▼ 12. ZEDD – Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 80.785 (+ 1.012)13. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 73.084 (+ 0.441) ▲ 14. LADY GAGA – Applause: 71.841 (- 1.590) ▼ 15. NEIGHBOURHOOD – Sweater Weather: 67.115 (- 0.132) 16. LADY GAGA – Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 66.538 (+ 0.092) ▲ 17. JAY Z – Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 65.031 (- 2.106) ▼ 18. PARMALEE – Carolina: 62.700 (- 0.236) 19. ELI YOUNG BAND – Drunk Last Night: 61.980 (+ 0.815) ▲ 20. CHRIS BROWN – Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 60.435 (- 0.900) ▼ FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Stay: 58.297 (+ 0.718) ELLIE GOULDING – Burn: 56.737 (+ 1.282)THE BAND PERRY – Don’t Let Me Be Lonely: 53.467 (+ 0.509) A GREAT BIG WORLD – Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 46.843 (+ 1.576)ONE DIRECTION – Story Of My Life: 46.648 (+ 0.487) LORDE – Team: 44.339 (+ 1.799)CASSADEE POPE – Wasting All These Tears: 44.142 (+ 0.651) BASTILLE – Pompeii: 43.612 (+ 0.630) LUKE BRYAN – Drink A Beer: 42.744 (+ 0.995) MARIAH CAREY – All I Want For Christmas Is…: 41.264 (+ 1.140)BRENDA LEE – Rockin’ Around The Christmas..: 37.709 (- 0.039) BOBBY HELMS – Jingle Bell Rock: 36.774 (+ 0.298) BURL IVES – Have A Holly Jolly Christmas: 36.564 (+ 0.132) NAT KING COLE – The Christmas Song: 35.876 (+ 1.549)
JASON ALDEAN – When She Says Baby: 33.494 (+ 1.402)KID INK – Show Me f/Chris Brown: 33.140 (+ 0189) LADY ANTEBELLUM – Compass: 33.057 (+ 0.216) BRITNEY SPEARS – Perfume: 19.638 (- 0.462) KATY PERRY – Dark Horse: 16.699 (+ 1.848)KELLY CLARKSON – Underneath The Tree: 16.261 (+ 0.551) CALVIN HARRIS – Thinking About You: 15.990 (+ 0.197) DEMI LOVATO – Neon Lights: 8.992 (+ 0.007) BEYONCE – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 2.714 BEYONCE – Blow: 0.635 Some wut updates. :O josh so far so good. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2013 8:00:00 GMT -5
The fact that Harlem Shake is anywhere near the year end top 10 should completely discredit Billboard. That song was a fad for about a month, with no longevity in sales and hardly any airplay to begin with. Longevity becomes less important here. It was so far ahead of the competition in the first couple weeks that it got all the points it needed right off the bat. |
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Post by Xedretinz Lododnz on Dec 14, 2013 8:06:33 GMT -5
1. EMINEM – The Monster f/Rihanna: 182.257 (+ 0.456) 2. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 165.148 (- 2.589) 3. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 164.931 (- 0.146) 4. ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 156.275 (+ 1.060)5. LORDE – Royals: 150.011 (- 2.565) 6. DRAKE – Hold On We’re, Going Home: 133.502 (- 3.464) 7. MILEY CYRUS – Wrecking Ball: 105.986 (- 3.522) 8. PITBULL – Timber f/Ke$ha: 103.987 (+ 1.582)9. KATY PERRY – Unconditionally: 81.463 (- 2.306) 10. PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 81.401 (+ 0.584) ▲ 11. KATY PERRY – Roar: 81.343 (- 1.466) ▼ 12. ZEDD – Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 80.785 (+ 1.012)13. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 73.084 (+ 0.441) ▲ 14. LADY GAGA – Applause: 71.841 (- 1.590) ▼ 15. NEIGHBOURHOOD – Sweater Weather: 67.115 (- 0.132) 16. LADY GAGA – Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 66.538 (+ 0.092) ▲ 17. JAY Z – Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 65.031 (- 2.106) ▼ 18. PARMALEE – Carolina: 62.700 (- 0.236) 19. ELI YOUNG BAND – Drunk Last Night: 61.980 (+ 0.815) ▲ 20. CHRIS BROWN – Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 60.435 (- 0.900) ▼ FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Stay: 58.297 (+ 0.718) ELLIE GOULDING – Burn: 56.737 (+ 1.282)THE BAND PERRY – Don’t Let Me Be Lonely: 53.467 (+ 0.509) A GREAT BIG WORLD – Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 46.843 (+ 1.576)ONE DIRECTION – Story Of My Life: 46.648 (+ 0.487) LORDE – Team: 44.339 (+ 1.799)CASSADEE POPE – Wasting All These Tears: 44.142 (+ 0.651) BASTILLE – Pompeii: 43.612 (+ 0.630) LUKE BRYAN – Drink A Beer: 42.744 (+ 0.995) MARIAH CAREY – All I Want For Christmas Is…: 41.264 (+ 1.140)BRENDA LEE – Rockin’ Around The Christmas..: 37.709 (- 0.039) BOBBY HELMS – Jingle Bell Rock: 36.774 (+ 0.298) BURL IVES – Have A Holly Jolly Christmas: 36.564 (+ 0.132) NAT KING COLE – The Christmas Song: 35.876 (+ 1.549)
JASON ALDEAN – When She Says Baby: 33.494 (+ 1.402)KID INK – Show Me f/Chris Brown: 33.140 (+ 0189) LADY ANTEBELLUM – Compass: 33.057 (+ 0.216) BRITNEY SPEARS – Perfume: 19.638 (- 0.462) KATY PERRY – Dark Horse: 16.699 (+ 1.848)KELLY CLARKSON – Underneath The Tree: 16.261 (+ 0.551) CALVIN HARRIS – Thinking About You: 15.990 (+ 0.197) DEMI LOVATO – Neon Lights: 8.992 (+ 0.007) BEYONCE – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 2.714 BEYONCE – Blow: 0.635 Some wut updates. :O josh so far so good. Yess!!!! Dark Horse is the greatest audience gainer today!!!! the best Promotional Single in history XD |
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Post by Rocky on Dec 14, 2013 8:40:58 GMT -5
Yess!!!! Dark Horse is the greatest audience gainer today!!!! the best Promotional Single in history XD "I Knew You Were Trouble." tho. But I agree, it has the potential. |
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Post by smiley22 on Dec 14, 2013 9:57:22 GMT -5
Most weeks at #1 on the Hot 100
79 – Mariah Carey
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2013 10:01:47 GMT -5
Weeks at #1 on the Hot 100
8 - Eminem Featuring Rihanna
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Post by smiley22 on Dec 14, 2013 10:05:09 GMT -5
Weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 8 - Eminem Featuring Rihanna It's amazing that with a decent run at #1 with The Monster, Rihanna will move into 3rd all time with the most weeks at #1. She truly is Hot 100 ROYALTY |
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Post by mluv on Dec 14, 2013 10:13:48 GMT -5
It amazes me that Sail can sit at number 70 on iTunes (would be 60 when you take away talent show songs), have virtually no airplay and yet is considered by billboard to be the 35th biggest so g in the country. Somebody high up at billboard must really love that song Why are you puzzled? This song in November had been in the Billboard Hot 100 for over 62 weeks and is the top 10 longest charting singles dating back to 1958. In November it had also sold over 4.1 million records. It was also in the top 20-40 on itunes for months when apparently you weren't paying attention to it. Also the placement is based on what it did the week before and not what it's currently doing and of course there's streaming. |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Dec 14, 2013 10:30:14 GMT -5
Most weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 47 – Rihanna (tie) 47 – Usher (tie) Rihanna now has her 48th week 2006, "SOS" (3) 2007," Umbrella," featuring Jay-Z (7) 2008, "Take a Bow" (1) 2008, "Disturbia" (2) 2008, "Live Your Life" (T.I. featuring Rihanna) (6) 2010, "Rude Boy" (5) 2010, "Love the Way You Lie" (Eminem featuring Rihanna) (7) 2010, "What's My Name?," featuring Drake (1) 2010, "Only Girl (In the World)" (1) 2011, "S&M," featuring Britney Spears (1) 2011, "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris (10) 2012, "Diamonds" (3) 2013, "The Monster" (Eminem featuring Rihanna) (1 to date) |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 14, 2013 11:31:16 GMT -5
That is completely random. It was only at #10, not like #2. |
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Post by Kris on Dec 14, 2013 11:40:38 GMT -5
Now that I think about it Wasting All These Tears has been consistently updating since its release, Love Story crossover anyone
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