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Post by ant on Apr 24, 2015 18:32:27 GMT -5
Or to not include it on her Greatest Hits (as a treat for us fans who have been dying for her to put it on an album, instead of giving us those crappy work tapes). I still think "Oklahoma Wind" would have fit perfectly as the close to Blown Away (what a thematic fit) and after the album title/cover was revealed, I was surprised to find it was not included. However, I can't say that I was surprised when it wasn't included on the Greatest Hits album. I know that Carrie has, in the past, discussed doing an acoustic tour with smaller venues, so part of me wonders if she is holding on to some songs that would really shine in that setting and may release a more acoustic-leaning album to go along with it. Probably not, though. What makes me think she's keeping it in her back pocket is the fact that no other artist has recorded it, considering its quality. Where we don't know how many of Carrie's co-writes she holds on to, we do know that some of these songs have been recorded by other, less-established artists. And then maybe she just doesn't care for the song. EDIT: "Some additional new cowrites for upcoming albums: 2 for Cassadee Pope and 1 for Carrie Underwood. As always, all songwriters are listed in alphabetical order: "Wildfire" (Chris DeStefano / Jon Nite / Carrie Underwood) Chris DeStefano is popping up on a lot of Carrie's new album cowrites - their 1st album cut/single together was "Good Girl" (which they cowrote with Ashley Gorley) and he also cowrote "Something In The Water" with Brett James and Carrie and "Little Toy Guns" with Hillary Lindsey and Carrie. Jon Nite would be new to a Carrie album - we did have a previous title by this trio for the new album called "The Greatest Show On Earth." He cowrote the #1 Keith Urban/Miranda Lambert duet "We Were Us" with Nicolle Galyon and Jimmy Robbins, David Nail's #1 hit "Whatever She's Got" with Jimmy Robbins and Jake Owen's #1 hit "Beachin'" with Jaren Johnston and Jimmy Robbins." www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-42415.htm#comment-1985705422I definitely agree that it should have been on Blown Away. I was just saying that since that was clearly a missed opportunity, they had another opportunity with the Greatest Hits collection, and they blew that too. I really do hope Carrie is holding onto the song for herself, although perhaps she doesn't feel it's a good fit for her and is waiting for the right person to record it. I actually sort of liked the demo with the guy singing it, and I could see it being a breakthrough hit for a new male artist if they have the right voice for the song and can deliver it properly. I just feel like it's too good of a song to give away, but regardless, its release would certainly change some people's minds on Carrie as a songwriter.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Apr 24, 2015 20:16:04 GMT -5
Or to not include it on her Greatest Hits (as a treat for us fans who have been dying for her to put it on an album, instead of giving us those crappy work tapes). I still think "Oklahoma Wind" would have fit perfectly as the close to Blown Away (what a thematic fit) and after the album title/cover was revealed, I was surprised to find it was not included. However, I can't say that I was surprised when it wasn't included on the Greatest Hits album. I know that Carrie has, in the past, discussed doing an acoustic tour with smaller venues, so part of me wonders if she is holding on to some songs that would really shine in that setting and may release a more acoustic-leaning album to go along with it. Probably not, though. What makes me think she's keeping it in her back pocket is the fact that no other artist has recorded it, considering its quality. Where we don't know how many of Carrie's co-writes she holds on to, we do know that some of these songs have been recorded by other, less-established artists. And then maybe she just doesn't care for the song. As noted in a discussion here back in January 2012, Carrie posted on her fan club message board that the person who had leaked the "Oklahoma Wind" work tape had cost her co-writers and her a cut and that she would never be releasing a recorded version of the song because of the leak. I didn't read her post myself, but plenty of people have posted paraphrased versions of her post. The leak came from Wrensong/Reynsong Publishing, because there was a bunch of worktapes with writers signed to that publishing company (Jon Randall and Ashley Monroe, though neither is signed to that company now) that got out/wound up for sale on eBay. And Carrie hasn't written with a songwriter signed to that publishing company since the leak. As disappointed as I am never to have gotten Carrie's recorded version of "Oklahoma Wind" and as much as it remains one of my favorite co-writes of hers, I don't see her changing her mind about this. I would imagine that songwriters and their publishing companies have been told in no uncertain terms that any and all leaks of worktapes and demos with Carrie's voice on them will result in a similar outcome. And if any of them have any doubts as to how seriously Carrie takes breaches of trust, she and her team can point to "Oklahoma Wind."
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Post by neally on Apr 26, 2015 10:53:35 GMT -5
Taken from the 2015 Album Sales thread:
GREATEST HITS: DECADE #1 sold 328,000 copies total, of which 128,000 were in 2015.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 26, 2015 20:30:11 GMT -5
Taken from the 2015 Album Sales thread: GREATEST HITS: DECADE #1 sold 328,000 copies total, of which 128,000 were in 2015. Pretty amazing cosidering it's a double-disc set with songs everyone already knows and has priced between 15 and 20 dollars. Impressive 2015 number, especially.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Apr 26, 2015 22:02:45 GMT -5
Taken from the 2015 Album Sales thread: GREATEST HITS: DECADE #1 sold 328,000 copies total, of which 128,000 were in 2015. Pretty amazing cosidering it's a double-disc set with songs everyone already knows and has priced between 15 and 20 dollars. Impressive 2015 number, especially. Has there been discount for GH/ SITH / LTG yet?
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 27, 2015 1:40:00 GMT -5
Pretty amazing cosidering it's a double-disc set with songs everyone already knows and has priced between 15 and 20 dollars. Impressive 2015 number, especially. Has there been discount for GH/ SITH / LTG yet? Not that I'm aware of, no. I'm sure there was probably a discount for GH at some markets around the time of its release. Whenever her next televised performance will be is when I think they'll probably do a discount.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Apr 27, 2015 1:43:42 GMT -5
Has there been discount for GH/ SITH / LTG yet? Not that I'm aware of, no. I'm sure there was probably a discount for GH at some markets around the time of its release. Whenever her next televised performance will be is when I think they'll probably do a discount. Then it makes number for GH more impressive. Hopefully it will cross 500k by the end of this year :)
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Post by GothMoth on Apr 27, 2015 5:05:32 GMT -5
I never understand why would an artist create a compilation album, except the new recording, there will be no radio hit.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 27, 2015 7:34:58 GMT -5
I never understand why would an artist create a compilation album, except the new recording, there will be no radio hit. What?
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Post by GothMoth on Apr 27, 2015 7:35:49 GMT -5
Okay, forget it.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 27, 2015 7:59:37 GMT -5
I didn't mean to come off disrespectful. If I did, sorry. I'm just not sure what you meant by your statement.
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Post by musicfan134 on Apr 27, 2015 13:08:48 GMT -5
I never understand why would an artist create a compilation album, except the new recording, there will be no radio hit. The idea of a compilation/Greatest Hits album is really more for the casual fan than the die hard--if you happen to like a lot of their hits but don't want to invest in purchasing each of their individual albums, a Greatest Hits album is a great way to hear the "best" (or at least most well-known, which theoretically would be the best but we know how that goes sometimes) songs from an artists discography without investing a ton of money into an artist when you don't necessarily like ALL of their songs. Granted, the idea behind it has become rather obsolete with the dominance of iTunes/single sales/digital piracy, but artists still do it sometimes to appeal to their casual fan base. For others, like Carrie, without the release of the Greatest Hits we literally would have gotten 0 new music from her until, at the very earliest, this coming fall 2015. Considering that we haven't gotten new music from her since the release of Blown Away in 2012, releasing the Greatest Hits was a great way to tide us fans over until the release of the new album (which we don't even know for sure is coming this fall). Not to mention, compilation albums are generally super easy for a record label to produce and cost little to nothing. For Carrie's GH, the only songs they spent any money on really were SITW and LTG (maybe the work tapes, but I feel like those have probably been around for a while sitting and collecting dust.) That's a very low production cost and therefore, any sales of the GH album have been probably 80-90% profit for Arista Nashville. Considering the fact that it probably took them (after LTG and SITW were finished) maybe 5 minutes to put the rest of the tracklisting together it just makes sense from a business standpoint--especially with Carrie's track record as far as sales/radio performance goes. Plus, both SITW and LTG have done moderately well on radio and the album is already certified gold (it's a double disk, so sales are counted twice for RIAA certifications) so the album has certainly been a hit and a great way for us to have SOMETHING to talk about on Pulse/Carriefans during this otherwise deathly quiet time while Carrie enjoys some well-deserved time off with her baby.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 13:32:09 GMT -5
I never understand why would an artist create a compilation album, except the new recording, there will be no radio hit. I could see this argument working for another artist, but not Carrie. LTG & Something In The Water have done very well, especially considering there's been absolutely no active promo for either. She's got a solid fanbase to back her, so it would make perfect sense for the label to drop a few new songs and call it a day. It's cheaper for the label than a new album, gives Carrie a chance to take time off, and it gives fans something to look forward to in between album eras. It's a win-win situation for everyone, basically. Plus, I don't see Carrie being the type of artist who wouldn't WANT to do a GH album. She's always been into her whole journey, and it seems perfectly reasonable she'd want to celebrate the milestone of her first decade. Most people who don't follow Country music closely probably have little to no idea how astronomical it is for female artists to have a career with Carrie's kind of consistency; that fact alone deserves celebration.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:55:40 GMT -5
This is a dupe account of a poster that has been banned...this account has since been disabled, so we can ignore his posts, lol. I too am disappointed that we'll likely never get to hear a recorded version of "Oklahoma Wind", but after Carrie stated back in January 2012 (what Dudley linked to) that she wouldn't put it on an album because it was leaked, I was not surprised that it wasn't included on Blown Away or Greatest Hits Decade #1...and I don't expect we'll ever get it on a future album either :'( "Little Toy Guns" had a nice update today--it should be top 10 at country radio within the next 2 weeks. Hopefully it can get Carrie back to #1 on Billboard Country Airplay. As we all know, "Blown Away" is the last single from a solo female artist to top the Billboard Country Airplay chart...which is absolutely sad.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 27, 2015 21:52:27 GMT -5
"Little Toy Guns" had a nice update today--it should be top 10 at country radio within the next 2 weeks. Hopefully it can get Carrie back to #1 on Billboard Country Airplay. As we all know, "Blown Away" is the last single from a solo female artist to top the Billboard Country Airplay chart...which is absolutely sad. I am so, so, so thrilled with how well this song has done.
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Post by _adriano. on Apr 27, 2015 22:21:06 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Carriefans? That message is actually freaking me out.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 27, 2015 22:22:45 GMT -5
LTG & Something In The Water have done very well, especially considering there's been absolutely no active promo for either. No active promo for SITW?!?! I can't with this mess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 22:47:13 GMT -5
LTG & Something In The Water have done very well, especially considering there's been absolutely no active promo for either. No active promo for SITW?!?! I can't with this mess. No performances for LTG, and one for SITW. Hardly "active promo, if you ask me. No need to get your panties in a wad, really.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 27, 2015 22:52:09 GMT -5
No active promo for SITW?!?! I can't with this mess. No performances for LTG, and one for SITW. Hardly "active promo, if you ask me. No need to get your panties in a wad, really. "Hardly" is different from "absolutely no" promo. Also, did Carrie not perform "SITW" on Fallon, Today, the CMAs, and the Concert for Valor? She definitely performed it more than once.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 23:03:25 GMT -5
No performances for LTG, and one for SITW. Hardly "active promo, if you ask me. No need to get your panties in a wad, really. "Hardly" is different from "absolutely no" promo. Also, did Carrie not perform "SITW" on Fallon, Today, the CMAs, and the Concert for Valor? She definitely performed it more than once. My apologies that I can't recall every one of Carrie's performances off the top of my head. I misspoke, but the point remains that there was still barely any promo for either song, no matter which way you slice it.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 27, 2015 23:44:51 GMT -5
oh my god
SITW had plenty of promo. LTG hasn't, and that's because it was released during her final few weeks of pregnancy and is currently running during her "maternity leave."
I pray to all that is good and holy that this topic can be dropped and that jenglisbe can learn the art of agreeing to disagree.
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Post by neally on Apr 27, 2015 23:57:48 GMT -5
oh my god SITW had plenty of promo. LTG hasn't, and that's because it was released during her final few weeks of pregnancy and is currently running during her "maternity leave." I pray to all that is good and holy that this topic can be dropped and that jenglisbe can learn the art of agreeing to disagree.
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Post by sbp17 on Apr 28, 2015 4:01:27 GMT -5
I agree with jenglisbe. Suggesting that SITW had no promo is just not correct, particularly when such a strong word like "absolutely" is used.
Even with LTG, I don't see it as being much different than other singles from other top artists in the genre...most promo is given to the debut single because it coincides with album release (unless the timing or nominations work out around awards time).
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 28, 2015 7:01:08 GMT -5
Clearly a mistake, an apologized for mistake. Lord Jesus.
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Post by carriefan15 on Apr 28, 2015 15:51:14 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Carriefans? That message is actually freaking me out. No idea!!! It is definitely weird though.
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Post by jptexas on Apr 28, 2015 18:28:39 GMT -5
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Post by Typo on Apr 29, 2015 14:48:11 GMT -5
New co-write title via Windmills at MJsBigBlog: "Let The Wheels Roll" - (Luke Laird, Hillary Lindsey, Carrie Underwood)
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Post by musicfan134 on Apr 29, 2015 18:32:12 GMT -5
Could this be the sequel to the legendary Jesus, Take the Wheel? I'm not worthy. :'(
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Post by maddkat on Apr 30, 2015 14:14:11 GMT -5
@bradpaisley Uh,Yes Ma'am. RT @carrieunderwood: I know you have a cartoon drawn of me for your"Crushin'It"video& I wanna see it! pic.twitter.com/yLgXapq9qY
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 30, 2015 14:17:16 GMT -5
@bradpaisley Uh,Yes Ma'am. RT @carrieunderwood: I know you have a cartoon drawn of me for your"Crushin'It"video& I wanna see it! pic.twitter.com/yLgXapq9qY The beer is just like Brad Paisley: less filling!
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