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Post by Exclusive on Jan 31, 2019 22:46:02 GMT -5
It was revealed that Britney is working with Danja on multiple tracks. I hope they will make the cut. "Gimme More" is one of my favorite Britney songs. Hoping they bring the same energy. |
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 1, 2019 0:34:13 GMT -5
It was revealed that Britney is working with Danja on multiple tracks. I hope they will make the cut. Don’t play with my emotions!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 0:56:55 GMT -5
It was revealed that Britney is working with Danja on multiple tracks. I hope they will make the cut.  |
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Post by Keelzit on Feb 1, 2019 6:41:47 GMT -5
I'm not holding my breath since Danja has been sending songs to her camp post-Circus but they rejected them. We stan Max Martin but I feel like Danja truly listens to what our girl wants and doesn't just send her a song that will ensure him a fat royalty check.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Feb 1, 2019 7:22:43 GMT -5
It’s kind of frustrating that we are now getting album details, after finding out she’s on this hiatus. I do think it means that she was further along in the process than anyone realized. Justin Tranter executive producing and having recorded several Danja tracks makes me very excited for the project.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 13:03:54 GMT -5
Her team probably should start doing nda’s to people about s**t and just drop a project out of nowhere. Wasn’t “Make Me” originally supposed to be a single/video on release drop?
Before they ruined everything with the Lachappelle mess.
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Post by thezatch on Feb 1, 2019 15:24:08 GMT -5
I still weep that we didn't get that full version of "Make Me" in HD.
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Post by PrinceAli89 on Feb 3, 2019 16:37:19 GMT -5
I honestly think she needs to come back with a Max Martin produced up-tempo SOLO pop smash! The rest of the album can be Danja, and whoever else she chooses, but I want her to get a no. 1 or at least a top 10 big Pop song out there first.
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Post by Marv on Feb 3, 2019 17:06:13 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea how many stations were on the Hot 100 reporting panel twenty years ago this week when 'Baby One More Time' hit #1? {Yeah it's been twenty years, believe or not}
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Post by Gary on Feb 3, 2019 18:06:33 GMT -5
January 30, 1999 when Have You Ever? was #1 on radio
Britney was #41 based on 746 stations
On February 6 it was #22 based on 749 stations
eventually peaking at #8
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Post by renaboss on Feb 3, 2019 18:50:09 GMT -5
"...Baby One More Time" only hit #8 on radio? Wtf?
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Post by Marv on Feb 3, 2019 23:55:13 GMT -5
Those numbers are not accurate since there were only 231 stations on the R&R panel twenty years ago this month and a similar number ob Billboard when 'Straight Up' hit #1 on both charts.
The nineties were a horrible decade for top 40 radio in terms of listening levels and the huge number of stations which bailed out of the format; I was just checking to see how bad the numbers were by the time Britney came along near the end of the decade while the format was in free fall mode and didn't start to recover until 2007.
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 0:02:36 GMT -5
Those numbers are not accurate since there were only 231 stations on the R&R panel twenty years ago this month and a similar number ob Billboard when 'Straight Up' hit #1 on both charts. The nineties were a horrible decade for top 40 radio in terms of listening levels and the huge number of stations which bailed out of the format; I was just checking to see how bad the numbers were by the time Britney came along near the end of the decade while the format was in free fall mode and didn't start to recover until 2007. If you don’t want the answer. Don’t ask the question. The number of stations were listed at the top of the AirPlay chart in the actual magazine. |
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 0:08:01 GMT -5
The numbers seem higher because by 1999 the hot 100 had expanded the radio panel to beyond just pop stations.
In 1989 when Straught Up was #1. The Hot 100 was still just a pop chart
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Post by Choco on Feb 4, 2019 1:49:30 GMT -5
"...Baby One More Time" only hit #8 on radio? Wtf? The physical single sold really well which offset a relatively low radio peak... it still ended up at #5 on the year end and it's her biggest selling physical single. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 4, 2019 6:59:02 GMT -5
Britney didn’t really have radio support beyond pop, if I remember correctly, so an all-format radio chart wouldn’t have her particularly high compared to any crossover hits than would have been active at that point in time - including Pop/HotAC singles.
It’s interesting to look back and see how pop radio didn’t give Britney dedicated support early in her career. Baby One More Time was a #1 pop radio hit but she wouldn’t have another until Oops and then after that, not until Toxic. The others were all Top 10s or less. It wouldn’t be until the Circus album that she’d get back to back #1s.
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Post by jebsib on Feb 4, 2019 8:44:09 GMT -5
You have to be specific. Are you asking how many POP stations reported in 1999?
Again, you asked for Hot 100, not Top 40 reporters.
216 Top 40 Reporters to Billboard per their Top 40 Tracks chart, Feb 6, 1999.
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 9:57:30 GMT -5
yes - I should have realized he wasn't asking about the Hot 100 when he mentioned Britney was #1 and tying his question to radio.
the debut Britney song was indeed #1 20 years ago but it wasn't due to radio
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Post by jebsib on Feb 4, 2019 10:15:23 GMT -5
Actually he brings up a really good point.
Top 40 stations crashed in the 1990s. In the mid 80s there were roughly 230.
By mid 1993, there were 67.
And since these things are cyclical...
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 10:30:17 GMT -5
OK - Top 40 stations and the Hot 100, not the same thing. Even in the 80s when they were the same thing, radio was never more than half the story.
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 10:34:30 GMT -5
The chart in question Attachments:
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Post by jebsib on Feb 4, 2019 11:21:58 GMT -5
Gary do you recall in the 80s and early 90s whether they ever revealed the point formula?
I remember Paul Grein once saying that 7" vinyl sales were practically nothing in the mid 80s and thus the Hot 100 was almost entirely driven by what Top 40 radio played, but I never understood whether they still clung to common ratio of 50% per each metric throughout all of that. Obviously when sales dried up in the early 00's they adjusted ratios and balances all the time.
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 12:05:42 GMT -5
Gary do you recall in the 80s and early 90s whether they ever revealed the point formula? I remember Paul Grein once saying that 7" vinyl sales were practically nothing in the mid 80s and thus the Hot 100 was almost entirely driven by what Top 40 radio played, but I never understood whether they still clung to common ratio of 50% per each metric throughout all of that. Obviously when sales dried up in the early 00's they adjusted ratios and balances all the time. I don't know. I never got tuned in to the formula until I started posting here |
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Post by jebsib on Feb 4, 2019 12:11:10 GMT -5
Me neither. But given the death of vinyl singles up until the birth of the Cassingle, I assume the Hot 100 of the mid 80s was almost entirely Top 40 airplay driven.
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Post by brady47 on Feb 4, 2019 19:41:41 GMT -5
"...Baby One More Time" only hit #8 on radio? Wtf? Yup - definitely weird. 1999 was huge for bubblegum pop on radio - "Genie in a Bottle" and "I Want It That Way" were #1 radio hits. For some reason, radio didn't love Britney as much as other similar acts. |
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Post by badrobot on Feb 5, 2019 15:39:40 GMT -5
Britney seemed to have a bit of a “bubblegum”/kid-oriented persona when she debuted, like a bigger version of Hannah Montana almost, which I think limited her radio appeal.
She really had a major career revival with the Circus/Femme Fatale eras.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 6, 2019 15:11:43 GMT -5
"...Baby One More Time" only hit #8 on radio? Wtf? Yup - definitely weird. 1999 was huge for bubblegum pop on radio - "Genie in a Bottle" and "I Want It That Way" were #1 radio hits. For some reason, radio didn't love Britney as much as other similar acts. On Top 40 radio "Baby One More Time" hit num.1 for 5 weeks I believe. Follow up singles both hit num. 4 for two and 3 weeks. "Oops I did It Again" hit num.1 for 2 or 3 weeks. "Lucky" hit num.8 but was a big disappointment. After that is when the real struggle began. "Stronger until she hit num.1 with "Toxic" for 4 weeks followed by the num. 4 for 4 weeks "Everytime". She then struggled for 4 years to comeback with the "Circus" era but had minor hits for "Blackout". Maybe a lot of her music didn't crossover but on top 40 she always seemed to do very well except the alleged "radio blackball" era. |
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Post by brady47 on Feb 6, 2019 20:17:53 GMT -5
Yup - definitely weird. 1999 was huge for bubblegum pop on radio - "Genie in a Bottle" and "I Want It That Way" were #1 radio hits. For some reason, radio didn't love Britney as much as other similar acts. On Top 40 radio "Baby One More Time" hit num.1 for 5 weeks I believe. Follow up singles both hit num. 4 for two and 3 weeks. "Oops I did It Again" hit num.1 for 2 or 3 weeks. "Lucky" hit num.8 but was a big disappointment. After that is when the real struggle began. "Stronger until she hit num.1 with "Toxic" for 4 weeks followed by the num. 4 for 4 weeks "Everytime". She then struggled for 4 years to comeback with the "Circus" era but had minor hits for "Blackout". Maybe a lot of her music didn't crossover but on top 40 she always seemed to do very well except the alleged "radio blackball" era. Yup pop radio was good to her. But for an era where bubblegum pop was huge (1999) - why were the Backstreet Boys and Christina Aguilera getting more airplay... Baby One More Time was a worldwide smash, so it's odd that radio was it's weak point in the US |
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Post by Keelzit on Feb 6, 2019 20:33:56 GMT -5
Maybe her voice was too childish? Idk what else it could be. I always found it odd how, well.. odd her peaks were on radio/hot 100 during the first 5 years of her career. I think the turning point really was Blackout. She showed that she was an artist worth taking seriously as both a hitmaker but also a pioneer but her public image prevented radio in mid-2007/early 2008 to spam her songs so as soon as she ''''''''''''''behaved'''''''''''''' again (starting with 2008 VMAs) radio embraced her like never before.
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