Britney Spears: Artist Discussion

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Sept 3, 2022 1:57:48 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 2, 2022 9:02:38 GMT -5 Koochie said:

It’s like expecting damaged gays to stop orgying due to monkeypox.

Incredibly judgmental and ignorant. I'm embarrassed for you.

[Koochie]

Sept 3, 2022 10:11:34 GMT -5 @kfercat said:

Sept 3, 2022 1:57:48 GMT -5 Codex said:

Incredibly judgmental and ignorant. I'm embarrassed for you.

💀 speaking of embarrassing

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Cutest salt and pepper shakers ever! I’d treasure those like a diamond necklace because they came from Brit-Brit. lol

And I can’t believe Jayden. How dare you. But again, he doesn’t have a responsible family to look to for guidance. Either side is TRASH. Well, once that gravy train runs out for all of them, they’ll be showing up at her front door asking for a hand-out.


BRITNEY, protect your circle at all costs, and stick to what you want and what you believe in. You’re too precious to let anyone fuck with you again!

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We can't blame the boys they are being used by Kfed. As much as Britney is a victim so are her boys. They have had to grapple with a lot and as teens we all know how those years were.

[Daenerys]

Britney went on Instagram and shared a 2 minute voice note responding to Kevin and the boys Australia itv interview. She says what everyone's speculated already. The boys only use her as an ATM machine and it hurts her how they along with members of her family have maligned her by saying that "they hope she gets better" and that she "isn't mentally well." She doesn't understand what is unwell about her other than that she is finally using her voice which she wasn't able to do under the conservatorship.

She goes on to say that she currently gives Kevin 40k a month in child support, everything that is being done by him and the boys is in response to the fact that in 2 years that ends. Which is why Kevin did a 2 million dollar interview with itv to bash her. She says she never sees her kids, and when they do go to visit her they either sleep or they play piano all day and don't interact with her.

She ends it by saying she no longer believes in God, because she doesn't understand how her family could have done (and still) do this to her.

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The Hell they've put this Woman through... wow!
The whole Spears family is garbage and can fuck off.

[Choco]

I was gonna make a comment about how she wasn't right going to IG again to air this thing, but I heard the message and...

She was right. She was clear in her message and it's apparently the only way she can reach her children right now. My heart breaks for her.

Fuck KFed btw as usual.

[Koochie]

Sept 5, 2022 20:26:00 GMT -5 Choco said:

She was clear in her message and it's apparently the only way she can reach her children right now.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Her boys aren't viewing her Instagram. 

I want to be clear that I'm not defending the boys here and never have, and what I'm about to say might come across as making excuses for them, put people need to realize that throughout their formative years they were surrounded by her family spoon-feeding them misinformation about her while she was being drugged out of her mind. Her boys are 15 and 16 years old; Britney was put under the conservatorship when they were 2 and 3 years old. All they have ever been told or know is that "mom is crazy," and who knows what kind of pigs**t Kevin has been telling them. They've never been able to have a normal relationship with their mom. 

Britney probably doesn't understand. How could she? She's a mother who loves her boys and their disassociation is another casualty of all of the crap she's had to carry for almost 15 years. It's not her fault and she's right to be upset, but I still don't agree that this is the right way to go about this. 

If her kids were in their 20s or 30s and bleeding her dry, absolutely cut them off, they'd be old enough to know better... but they're not. They aren't even legally adults yet. This is such a uniquely awful situation but she still has a responsibility as their mother, who obviously cares about them, to make sure they're ok at the end of the day even if she can't see them right now. They probably need time to process a lot of this s**t too and obviously don't understand what's going on either, but this isn't going to help. 

I truly do feel awful for her. I cannot imagine how hard this is. 

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Britney situation is different than even the long list of uber successful singers like MJ, Mariah, Whitney ,Prince etc... its easier to cut off parents, siblings, people around you but the Britney affair lasted so long that even her own kids are toxic to her but nobody cuts off their own kids. I'm praying for this woman and usually the kids are the refuge so its heartbreaking. I hope Sam is the real deal

Mariah spent decades trying to get to the point figuring herself and creating boundaries. Britney just got free she will eventually learn to navigate her situation and develop a I don't give a f**k how I come across I'm creating walls and boundaries damn who like it. The boys are traumatized, britney is traumatized they are toxic for each other right now unless they heal and seek therapy and become independent of the gutter snakes like KFED and their grandparents

"As she points out, her family “just happened to claim I was unstable and try to institutionalize me immediately after I had signed the biggest cash deal for a solo artist in history.” Carey believes that her family subjected her to being locked in an institution in order to gain access to her money.

According to the New York Times, there was frequent physical violence in the home, to the point that she learned to be on alert for danger at a very young age. “By the time I was a toddler, I had developed the instincts to sense when violence was coming,” Carey wrote in her memoir. “As though I was smelling rain, I could tell when adult screaming had reached a certain pitch and velocity that meant I should take cover.”

[Daenerys]

I guess the 'their teenagers response' is something that I can't get behind. The boys are old enough to start planning their futures. They are informed enough by this point to have a future perspective and develop a point of view on how they want to act as adults. I have a younger sister their age who is starting to think about college, planning for her SAT's and who is thinking ahead about her future. The boys are assumedly planning the same. Jayden is already talking about going into the music industry, yet seems to not understand that when Britney was his same age, she was dropping her first music video and pushing her debut single.

The kids are old enough to research things on their own now. There were fans of the Free Britney movement picking up picket signs and boycotting against her imprisonment who are their same age now. They know enough or they can learn more enough to start putting two and two together to see that their dad doesn't work, and that their mom grosses millions of dollars while on tour performing hundreds of shows a year. They can wikipedia her. They are smart enough to understand that everything in their house is paid for by their mother, and that their mother has spoken about how she was trafficked, drugged, and institutionalized against her will, and that she was afraid for her life and her family was the cause. Yet they choose to align themselves with the very people who did that to her. If that sparks nothing inside of them, if they feel nothing for their mother. I'm terrified for their futures because that's some Kyle Rittenhouse/Brock Turner levels of sociopathy right there.

Honestly, what's sad most of all is that you can hear in Britney's voice how much she just wanted to be unconditionally loved, and how much it tears her up inside that the people who she chose to dedicate her life to -- her former husband, her parents, her siblings, and her kids just couldn't care less if she was locked up and never heard from ever again. I echo what someone else said. The Spears' family are genuinely horrible people. This puts everything about her behavior from 2004 onward in a new light. She's spent her adult years just searching for people to love her. 

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[kimberly]

this is all so tragic. I know they are just teenagers and their thoughts are highly malleable, but I didn't think her boys would turn against her in this way. such a shame, even if it's understandable. they've had a pretty fucked up childhood, and I'm sure the current media attention isn't helping them address the actual cause of their hurt.

[Koochie]

Comparing Britney’s kids to Kyle Rittenhouse is definitely a take

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FYI I liked Miss Wanda post before she edited it to include Kyle Rittenhouse and referred to her kids as sociopaths.

Clearly I've now unliked Wanda post.

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Sept 6, 2022 0:52:13 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 5, 2022 21:42:17 GMT -5 Daenerys said:

I guess the 'their teenagers response' is something that I can't get behind. The boys are old enough to start planning their futures. They are informed enough by this point to have a future perspective and develop a point of view on how they want to act as adults. I have a younger sister their age who is starting to think about college, planning for her SAT's and who is thinking ahead about her future. The boys are assumedly planning the same. Jayden is already talking about going into the music industry, yet seems to not understand that when Britney was his same age, she was dropping her first music video and pushing her debut single.

The kids are old enough to research things on their own now. There were fans of the Free Britney movement picking up picket signs and boycotting against her imprisonment who are their same age now. They know enough or they can learn more enough to start putting two and two together to see that their dad doesn't work, and that their mom grosses millions of dollars while on tour performing hundreds of shows a year. They can wikipedia her. They are smart enough to understand that everything in their house is paid for by their mother, and that their mother has spoken about how she was trafficked, drugged, and institutionalized against her will, and that she was afraid for her life and her family was the cause. Yet they choose to align themselves with the very people who did that to her. If that sparks nothing inside of them, if they feel nothing for their mother. I'm terrified for their futures because that's some Kyle Rittenhouse/Brock Turner levels of sociopathy right there.

Honestly, what's sad most of all is that you can hear in Britney's voice how much she just wanted to be unconditionally loved, and how much it tears her up inside that the people who she chose to dedicate her life to -- her former husband, her parents, her siblings, and her kids just couldn't care less if she was locked up and never heard from ever again. I echo what someone else said. The Spears' family are genuinely horrible people. This puts everything about her behavior from 2004 onward in a new light. She's spent her adult years just searching for people to love her. 

Not all kids mature at the same age. My dad could talk fluently at 18 months, while my nephew is 3 years old and just started talking recently. My boyfriend was watching the news every morning at age 13 while I was on this forum arguing with Gaga stans and @pma2015 and not giving a single f about the real world until like age 20.

I agree with Koochie that the boys are still too young and we shouldn’t be blaming them for getting brainwashed by their dumbass father and grandparents. I think by age 20-25 they will understand the truth… it’s just heartbreaking that Britney has to deal with this until then.

I miss our fights ❤ we caught hard and moved on fast. We not toxic tricks like Gaga fans.

[Anticonformity]

Sad that it took this, but so happy she sees the light and to quote:
Here I am, so try to forgive me
I don't believe in fairytales

You are your own god...

[Eqbk]

My general attitude towards Britney and how she uses social media is that I support Britney's right to speak her truth in the way she wants, even if I don't necessarily agree with everything. Given the fact that she's had to hold her tongue for all of those years (often to the detriment of her reputation and possibly mental health), it's understandable she doesn't always want to be the bigger person and take the high road.

Obviously, it's a shame that her sons are caught in the crossfires and perhaps there might have been a way to handle this more privately but it was Kevin (not Britney) who chose open the floodgates by going to the media and make this a public matter. In fact, before they went to the media, Britney was generally respectful of not only her children's privacy, but Kevin's as well.

On the positive side, at least she's shown her children can't be used to coerce her anymore. Remember that Team Con would dangle her children in front of her to get her to comply and are still trying to do that here. Imo, they are sending a clear message to her: if she wants a relationship with her sons, then she needs to keep quiet and forgive/accept your family back, even if that family includes people who are responsible for her abuse. In the past, Britney had put up with being abused, humiliated, and essentially trafficked for the sake of her children. Now though, she's making it clear that while she loves her sons and would love to have a relationship with them, it will not be at the steep price she's paid in the past.

Hopefully one day her sons will have more clarity once they have some space and time and she won't have to choose between having a relationship with her sons and not having to deal with abusive relationships.

[Daenerys]

Sept 6, 2022 0:52:13 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 5, 2022 21:42:17 GMT -5 Daenerys said:

I guess the 'their teenagers response' is something that I can't get behind. 

Not all kids mature at the same age. I agree with Koochie that the boys are still too young and we shouldn’t be blaming them for getting brainwashed by their dumbass father and grandparents. 

Thank you for the response, specifically because I appreciate that my post could have been seen as inflammatory considering one of my points. I appreciate you for looking past it.

My main point which I think got lost which is to my own detriment and is my own fault is that the boys are at the precipice of adulthood, and at the ages of 16 and 17 are at a point where they will be making long-term decisions which will impact their lives over the next 4+ years. There are others through out the country who are in their same age range who will be considering if they will go to college, if they will stay in-state or out-of-state, if they need to take out loans or open lines of credit to go to school, if they will take a gap year, or even enter the workforce post-graduation. All of those actions they are capable and autonomous in making and starting to decide or plan for or have the conversation that they need to make those choices either now or soon after, which will impact them short to medium term.

Jayden committing himself to film (and print), and choosing to say words which will have meaning is a similar action, as is entering into adult spaces which he has just now done. That action in and of itself can be used to land him into depositions, and can be played back and attributed to him for years in the future either in court cases or in other actions adjacent to these. There is a reason why prosecutors, judges and even some arms and aspects of the law consider charging individuals at that age as adults. I used Turner (19) and Rittenhouse (17) as a comparison point to show that 16 and 17 is not 10-13. There is an additional measure of intent there that comes at that age. I admit the way I phrased it may have been clumsy (I accept the fault is mine). 

I likely won't broach this subject again in this thread, because it seems to inspire some strong reactions, I don't wish to make anyone uncomfortable in continuing to go over it. I will admit I personally see a lot of misogyny in the way the men in Britney's life treat her, it feels quite insidious in a lot of ways. I see it in Jamie, Larry, Kevin, her mother, sister, and even the boys too which likely biases me in reviewing their current and past behavior. Especially after this interview.  

[Ryan]

[Daenerys]

Ecstatic that she got the top 10 this week, the good news she needed.

[slw84]

We did it JOE Army!!!

Top 10 hot 100 songs in 4 decades (90s,00s,10s,20s)

[Love Plastic Love]

I don't think you can blame her boys for acting this way. I know Britney had it the worst, but they have likely also not had the easiest time of it. Britney was erratic at times with them and sometimes heavily drugged around them. And yes, that is NOT her fault and its a f**king tragedy and people need to be in jail, but it is still what THEY experienced growing up. Then, they have probably been brainwashed since they were small children by Britney's dad and others. It is not easy to break out of that, especially not at 14-16 years old. It usually takes some perspective, distance, adult awareness, and life experiences.

This is, in some ways, the saddest part of everything for me because I have always believed that Britney wanted to be a mom and adores her kids and that was taken away from her. I am genuinely hoping that they can reconnect, especially after the boys are adults and away from Kevin and Britney's Dad.

Ok, edit just to say apparently they are 16 and 17 and not 15 and 16 like I thought. Jesus, time passes fast.

[dbhmr]

Honestly that IG post of hers is nothing short of gross. I empathize with why she’s doing it and understand the myriad reasons behind her limited understanding of social media but purely from the perspective of parent-child relationships, she’ll always have more responsibility as the parent until her kids are adults, and it’s deeply fucked for this all to be happening so publicly. What a shame, for everyone.

[The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷]

Sept 6, 2022 9:27:10 GMT -5 slw84 said:

We did it JOE Army!!!

Top 10 hot 100 songs in 4 decades (90s,00s,10s,20s)

And the youngest person to achieve that!

Congrats, Brit!

[divasummer]

Random: I haven’t listened to the radio in at least 6 years. Except for the occasional second here and there.
I turned it on today because I’m at my mothers/my home and our local Top 40 station in Boston Kiss 108 is playing Britney’s “Baby One More Time”. ??
That’s fine but I wasn’t expecting it.

I’m actually kind of having fun listening to the radio.
Bringing back old feelings. Lol

[Tea-why]

Sept 6, 2022 9:15:36 GMT -5 Ryan said:

That’s awesome! I am actually so happy for her!

She deserves any positivity that she gets, and then some.

[c0ldasfire]

Sept 6, 2022 13:48:03 GMT -5 divasummer said:

Random: I haven’t listened to the radio in at least 6 years. Except for the occasional second here and there.
I turned it on today because I’m at my mothers/my home and our local Top 40 station in Boston Kiss 108 is playing Britney’s “Baby One More Time”. ??
That’s fine but I wasn’t expecting it.

I’m actually kind of having fun listening to the radio.
Bringing back old feelings. Lol

Call and ask them to play Hold Me Closer!

[RoseColoredGirl]

Sept 6, 2022 13:48:03 GMT -5 divasummer said:

Random: I haven’t listened to the radio in at least 6 years. Except for the occasional second here and there.
I turned it on today because I’m at my mothers/my home and our local Top 40 station in Boston Kiss 108 is playing Britney’s “Baby One More Time”. ??
That’s fine but I wasn’t expecting it.

I've seen a lot of people say in different threads on here that there's been a sharp increase in radio stations playing Britney lately. My station has also added both "Toxic" and "Baby One More Time" to their playlist recently as throwback songs. I think they added "Toxic" around the time the conservatorship ended, and "Baby One More Time" was added in the past few weeks when "Hold Me Closer" came out. Given how increasingly streamlined radio has become, I think it's cool that radio is putting throwbacks in their playlist that are relevant to what's going on in pop culture.

[Daenerys]

Britney posted a few pictures on Instagram of the Circus Tour specifically during the Get Naked set, prompting rumors that she's working with Blackout producers on new music.

A few fan accounts have also posted blind items that she's been in contact with several people from the project.

[thezatch]

The Blackout sessions gave us some of her best (and probably most cathartic) music. If she’s ready to put her feelings on paper again, just give me Danja & Pharrell and I’ll be a happy stan.

An SG Lewis collab would be dope too to bring in some new blood.