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Post by renee75 on Nov 6, 2014 13:23:04 GMT -5
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Post by surfy on Nov 6, 2014 13:49:39 GMT -5
I don't get why people get worked up about stuff like that. Literally any comment about race is viewed as racist, even though he didn't say anything negative about anyone... It's like the opposite sides of the spectrum (politically speaking) are just waiting for something to accuse the other, which is one of the reasons I think politics are bullshit...
Anyways, I enjoyed the hosting like every year, they work so well together, and it will be really weird if either of them decide not to host one year. I really can't think of anyone else who could come close to doing what they do...
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Post by renee75 on Nov 6, 2014 13:58:00 GMT -5
I don't get why people get worked up about stuff like that. Literally any comment about race is viewed as racist, even though he didn't say anything negative about anyone... It's like the opposite sides of the spectrum (politically speaking) are just waiting for something to accuse the other, which is one of the reasons I think politics are bulls**t...Anyways, I enjoyed the hosting like every year, they work so well together, and it will be really weird if either of them decide not to host one year. I really can't think of anyone else who could come close to doing what they do... That's the weird thing here, though. Brad's a liberal and it seems to be mostly liberals accusing him. It's one end of the spectrum accusing part of itself.
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Post by surfy on Nov 6, 2014 13:59:58 GMT -5
I don't get why people get worked up about stuff like that. Literally any comment about race is viewed as racist, even though he didn't say anything negative about anyone... It's like the opposite sides of the spectrum (politically speaking) are just waiting for something to accuse the other, which is one of the reasons I think politics are bulls**t...Anyways, I enjoyed the hosting like every year, they work so well together, and it will be really weird if either of them decide not to host one year. I really can't think of anyone else who could come close to doing what they do... That's the weird thing here, though. Brad's a liberal and it seems to be mostly liberals accusing him. It's one end of the spectrum accusing part of itself. I know. I think just because he is Southern they assume he is a Republican
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 6, 2014 14:01:46 GMT -5
That's the weird thing here, though. Brad's a liberal and it seems to be mostly liberals accusing him. It's one end of the spectrum accusing part of itself. I know. I think just because he is Southern they assume he is a Republican An Accidental Republican.
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Post by surfy on Nov 6, 2014 14:22:41 GMT -5
I know. I think just because he is Southern they assume he is a Republican An Accidental Republican.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 6, 2014 14:25:09 GMT -5
An Accidental Republican. Jealous? Brad Paisley could be a Deliberate Democrat!
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Post by justme60 on Nov 6, 2014 14:32:06 GMT -5
I just got back from the show! Obviously the best part of the night was at the end when Luke won Entertainer of the Year. Granted he sounded really bad singing Roller Coaster (which is my favorite song of his). It was the same way when Kenny Chesney won so many years in a row for Entertainer, but yet his live performances on award shows and TV performances were always off! One performer, IMO, who is always pretty consistent in his live performances is Keith Urban and I thought his performance last night was spot on. To me, he is the greatest live entertainer and Billboard agrees. Carrie's was the most beautiful and her voice is just out of this world. I thought Brad's performance was very boring and lackluster and so was Luke's. Would have enjoyed LBT's without Ariana....she was just not my cop of tea. Miranda and Megan was ok. Miranda and LBT's performance last night was so much better than the recorded version, IMO. The recorded version sounds odd. It was an OK show but not very exciting to me. Got a little boring at times.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 6, 2014 15:47:02 GMT -5
justme60, MANY stars sound 'off' on award shows.
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Post by justme60 on Nov 6, 2014 21:18:45 GMT -5
justme60, MANY stars sound 'off' on award shows. Sure, but not all of them get awarded Entertainer over and over. I was just saying that being an entertainer doesn't always mean you are a great vocalist.
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Post by tim on Nov 6, 2014 22:03:02 GMT -5
Overall, I felt this year's show was more fluid and engaging than in years past. Brad and Carrie did a great job not just with the opening monologue but for the remainder of the show. I was also quite pleased with all the winners and have no gripes other than maybe album of the year if only because I was really pulling for a Dierks or Eric win there. I was pleasantly surprised to see "Follow Your Arrow" win for song of the year and glad to see the fans hand in a song becoming so successful that radio shunned. Luke certainly deserved his Entertainer win, and even though I'm a George fan I wasn't hoping he'd win this year. I truly felt Luke or Miranda were more deserving so glad to see one of them take it. Here's a quick run-down of my favorite to least favorite performances:
Best performances of the night: 1. The Band Perry's "Gentle On My Mind" 2. Keith Urban's "Somewhere In My Car" 3. George Strait with Eric Church on "Cowboys Like Us" 4. Kacey Musgraves w/ Loretta Lynn on "You're Looking At Country" 5. Miranda and LBT on "Smokin' and Drinkin'"
Funnest performance of the night: Little Big Town (and I actually didn't mind the Ariana Grande mix at the end)
Good, but...: Tim McGraw's "Shotgun Rider" (great song, but the vocal delivery was off in parts of the song specifically the awkward "Whoohoo Oh O" after he says radio) Carrie Underwood (again, I can only take her in small doses and the song isn't up there as one of my favorites) Luke Bryan (one of my favorite songs by him, and yet again the vocal delivery wasn't great)
Just Blah (or neutral thoughts): Kenny Chesney's "American Kids" Brad Paisley's "Perfect Storm" (I'm not quite sure why, but this song has started to become a little more lackluster for me the more I listen to it) Dierks Bentley's "Drunk On A Plane" (one of my least favorite songs from him, but glad he has seen success with it) Blake Shelton w/ Ashley Monroe (again not sure why, but nothing here stood out to me)
Worst performance of the night: Jason Aldean's "Burnin' It Down" (this came into the second hour and just seemed out of place)
I don't really have any comment on FGL's performance or Miranda and Meghan Trainor on "Bass" (although I think the song was fun for both of them and the crowd).
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 6, 2014 22:13:35 GMT -5
If Carrie had released "Water" earlier in the year, she'd have been more of a competition. I suspect next year she may snag that vocalist award from Miranda. Nah, unless Carrie transfers to WME from CAA and to Live Nation from AEG Live, and unless Gary Overton is replaced, she will never win any CMA again. Let's be real here. She has never even been nominated for EOTY despite being the top-grossing female country act every time she tours an album. She headlined a 3-hour live musical on television that had 21.8 million viewers (L+7) and a 4.6 rating in 18-49. Every album has spawned #1 hits and is at least platinum. She's won SIX Grammys. Yet she has ZERO EOTY nominations. Opening acts have been nominated for EOTY ahead of her. This situation of having been winless since 2008 and never having been nominated for EOTY is not simply a matter of voters thinking someone else is more deserving in a particular year and that she'll have a chance another year. As with all other industry voted awards shows, it's politics and block voting. She'll likely headline the SuperBowl half-time show in 2016. I bet she still won't win FVOTY or be nominated for EOTY. It is what it is. The CMAs is still a great marketing platform for her (See: "Something in the Water" on the iTunes chart) and an opportunity for fans to watch her on TV. HDD predictions for artists who performed on the show + other country acts: Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 30-35k Sam Hunt (MCA Nashville) 27-30k Florida Georgia Line (Republic Nashville) 27-30k Blake Shelton (Warner Bros. Nashville) 21-24k Miranda Lambert (RCA Nashville) 19-22k Brantley Gilbert (Valory) 18-21k
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Post by sbp17 on Nov 6, 2014 22:35:29 GMT -5
Damn leilamaurizia! Let us hear it!
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 6, 2014 22:37:35 GMT -5
If Carrie had released "Water" earlier in the year, she'd have been more of a competition. I suspect next year she may snag that vocalist award from Miranda. Nah, unless Carrie transfers to WME from CAA and to Live Nation from AEG Live, and unless Gary Overton is replaced, she will never win any CMA again. Let's be real here. She has never even been nominated for EOTY despite being the top-grossing female country act every time she tours an album. She headlined a 3-hour live musical on television that had 21.8 million viewers (L+7) and a 4.6 rating in 18-49. Every album has spawned #1 hits and is at least platinum. She's won SIX Grammys. Yet she has ZERO EOTY nominations. Opening acts have been nominated for EOTY ahead of her. This situation of having been winless since 2008 and never having been nominated for EOTY is not simply a matter of voters thinking someone else is more deserving in a particular year and that she'll have a chance another year. As with all other industry voted awards shows, it's politics and block voting. She'll likely headline the SuperBowl half-time show in 2016. I bet she still won't win FVOTY or be nominated for EOTY. It is what it is. The CMAs is still a great marketing platform for her (See: "Something in the Water" on the iTunes chart) and an opportunity for fans to watch her on TV. HDD predictions for artists who performed on the show + other country acts: Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 30-35k Sam Hunt (MCA Nashville) 27-30k Florida Georgia Line (Republic Nashville) 27-30k Blake Shelton (Warner Bros. Nashville) 21-24k Miranda Lambert (RCA Nashville) 19-22k Brantley Gilbert (Valory) 18-21k All it takes is a big year, though, and a lot can change. I know there's a lot of politics behind it, but I have a hard time believing Miranda will win for the sixth time, especially if there's someone actually there giving her legitimate competition. If "Something in the Water" does as well as I think it will (already record breaking/critically acclaimed), I think Carrie could stand a chance in 2015, maybe more so at the ACMs than CMAs. I'm certainly not going to place bets on Carrie winning, but I think her odds against Miranda will be much better next year. She has two things going for her: Miranda, I don't think, will walk away with a sixth trophy - it would seem ridiculous! And, Carrie will have had some VERY successful music out during the eligibility period ("Something in the Water", namely), as well as possible new music next year. I feel like I say something to the same affect every year, so hopefully one of these times I'll actually be right!
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 6, 2014 23:05:29 GMT -5
I know some people love "Automatic," and I am glad if it was going to win it was for Single and not Song...because I don't get it. First of all, most of the lines are about technology. But how many people really long for a map over GPS? Or a pay phone over a cell phone? I get nostalgic songs and I often love them, but I love nostalgic songs that are about people and/or old music and such. I also don't get why there is suddenly a line about divorce; it doesn't make sense in context. The song is also vaguely sexist with the line about boys being the ones to ask girls out, which is why I think it's weird paired with "Follow Your Arrow" as a winner since that is a song about taking charge and being who you want.
Having said that, the good news is "Automatic" is the worst song on Lambert's album, and I don't begrudge her win in Album. I just hope this voting bloc that keep giving her and Shelton wins is somehow broken up, though. They've each won Vocalist a record-setting 5 times in a row! Shelton has more than genuine country legends. It's crazy.
I also don't get any controversy over what Paisley said. I loved it when I it aired. If anything he was saying country music is overly white (which it is). He wasn't praising that fact.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 7, 2014 0:44:07 GMT -5
Nah, unless Carrie transfers to WME from CAA and to Live Nation from AEG Live, and unless Gary Overton is replaced, she will never win any CMA again. Let's be real here. She has never even been nominated for EOTY despite being the top-grossing female country act every time she tours an album. She headlined a 3-hour live musical on television that had 21.8 million viewers (L+7) and a 4.6 rating in 18-49. Every album has spawned #1 hits and is at least platinum. She's won SIX Grammys. Yet she has ZERO EOTY nominations. Opening acts have been nominated for EOTY ahead of her. This situation of having been winless since 2008 and never having been nominated for EOTY is not simply a matter of voters thinking someone else is more deserving in a particular year and that she'll have a chance another year. As with all other industry voted awards shows, it's politics and block voting. She'll likely headline the SuperBowl half-time show in 2016. I bet she still won't win FVOTY or be nominated for EOTY. It is what it is. The CMAs is still a great marketing platform for her (See: "Something in the Water" on the iTunes chart) and an opportunity for fans to watch her on TV. HDD predictions for artists who performed on the show + other country acts: Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 30-35k Sam Hunt (MCA Nashville) 27-30k Florida Georgia Line (Republic Nashville) 27-30k Blake Shelton (Warner Bros. Nashville) 21-24k Miranda Lambert (RCA Nashville) 19-22k Brantley Gilbert (Valory) 18-21k All it takes is a big year, though, and a lot can change. I know there's a lot of politics behind it, but I have a hard time believing Miranda will win for the sixth time, especially if there's someone actually there giving her legitimate competition. If "Something in the Water" does as well as I think it will (already record breaking/critically acclaimed), I think Carrie could stand a chance in 2015, maybe more so at the ACMs than CMAs. I'm certainly not going to place bets on Carrie winning, but I think her odds against Miranda will be much better next year. She has two things going for her: Miranda, I don't think, will walk away with a sixth trophy - it would seem ridiculous! And, Carrie will have had some VERY successful music out during the eligibility period ("Something in the Water", namely), as well as possible new music next year. I feel like I say something to the same affect every year, so hopefully one of these times I'll actually be right! As leilamaurizia already put it (and phenomenally at that), unless Carrie switches up her entire team, she will. not. win. a. CMA. It wouldn't matter if she solved the cure for cancer and broke U2's touring record all in the same 12-month time span; unless she's in the Blackstock voting block or has Big Machine as her backbone, she won't have another CMA on her shelf. And with the amount of Grammys she has compared to the current crop of CMA/Country radio sweethearts: Miranda Lambert, Blake Shelton, Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, and Florida Georgia Line combined (a resounding...1), I think she's just fine with that.
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Post by surfy on Nov 7, 2014 0:55:39 GMT -5
Shit, I'd take a Grammy over a CMA award any day.
Carrie is above the CMA peddling anyways. (Don't the winners usually pay/suck up to win? Or am I confusing this with another awards show?)
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 7, 2014 0:58:30 GMT -5
It's been confirmed that artists peddle/campaign for the CMAs. Blake Shelton had a huge festival/fair for CMA voters after his concert at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville back in 2013. It's how he won AOTY.
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Post by surfy on Nov 7, 2014 0:59:31 GMT -5
It's been confirmed that artists peddle/campaign for the CMAs. Blake Shelton had a huge festival/fair for CMA voters after his concert at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville back in 2013. It's how he won AOTY. Ew. I'm glad Carrie doesn't resort to that petty shit just for an award... #TrueQueen
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 1:49:10 GMT -5
I actually disagree that Carrie will never win a CMA ever again. She's won them before, and I think she can win them again. I'm not necessarily saying Entertainer or anything like that, but I fully expect her to win another CMA trophy before her career is over (which is still a long, long time away). That's a LOT of years and a LOT of CMA appearances. Things change.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 7, 2014 2:48:14 GMT -5
I think Carrie can take back Female Vocalist when she has a big enough year. There's been a couple instances during Miranda's reign where she gave her a run for her money, but this year Carrie basically released no new music (the one single she had out was a feature on a song by none other than Miranda Lambert) and I'd be surprised if she has a monumental 2015 given that she's pregnant. Carrie is not one to shy away from taking breaks in between albums, so I can't see her spending her first year as a new mom giving Miranda a run for the title. But I do believe that Carrie can win it again (or a different award), but she'll need an extra big year, and it would also help her out if Miranda were to slow down/take some time off.
It sucks that Miranda Lambert's domination is upsetting to people, but it's not her fault that the country industry is so painfully devoid of women to challenge her. I mean the male category is always stacked to where basically every candidate could win, but that's far from the case for FVOTY. If Kacey Musgraves blows up with her sophomore era I fully believe that the industry would be willing to pass the crown, because they've already given her a lot of love already.
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Post by toomuchboy on Nov 7, 2014 3:31:37 GMT -5
I don't think the voting politics/asskissing will end, so I'd be surprised if Carrie gets any major awards in the future no matter what she does. On the bright side, at least she has the superior sales, chart success, and Grammy wins, I guess?
I just have to say, the fact that Miranda now has more FVOTY awards than Reba McEntire is an embarrassment the genre will never live down.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 7, 2014 3:34:47 GMT -5
I think Carrie can take back Female Vocalist when she has a big enough year. There's been a couple instances during Miranda's reign where she gave her a run for her money, but this year Carrie basically released no new music (the one single she had out was a feature on a song by none other than Miranda Lambert) and I'd be surprised if she has a monumental 2015 given that she's pregnant. Carrie is not one to shy away from taking breaks in between albums, so I can't see her spending her first year as a new mom giving Miranda a run for the title. But I do believe that Carrie can win it again (or a different award), but she'll need an extra big year, and it would also help her out if Miranda were to slow down/take some time off. Eh. Sorry, but nobody had a bigger year than Carrie's 2012/2013 year (male or female), the main bulk of which (ranging from "Blown Away" to "See You Again", along with the entire Blown Away Tour) ran from the very beginning to the very end of the CMA's eligibility period. Same goes for her Play On Tour year, but that also came at Miranda's breakout, so I understand that one (more or less). Still, though, Miranda's reign, had all things been considered & divided up deservingly, should have ended last year. If last year couldn't get Carrie the win back, I really don't know how she ever will manage it again. And to be honest, I think the fans care about her winning FVOTY again about 1,000x more than Carrie herself does, lol. I don't think the voting politics/asskissing will end, so I'd be surprised if Carrie gets any major awards in the future no matter what she does. On the bright side, at least she has the superior sales, chart success, and Grammy wins, I guess? I just have to say, the fact that Miranda now has more FVOTY awards than Reba McEntire is an embarrassment the genre will never live down. Agreed on all counts.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2014 5:09:01 GMT -5
I think Carrie can take back Female Vocalist when she has a big enough year. There's been a couple instances during Miranda's reign where she gave her a run for her money, but this year Carrie basically released no new music (the one single she had out was a feature on a song by none other than Miranda Lambert) and I'd be surprised if she has a monumental 2015 given that she's pregnant. Carrie is not one to shy away from taking breaks in between albums, so I can't see her spending her first year as a new mom giving Miranda a run for the title. But I do believe that Carrie can win it again (or a different award), but she'll need an extra big year, and it would also help her out if Miranda were to slow down/take some time off. It sucks that Miranda Lambert's domination is upsetting to people, but it's not her fault that the country industry is so painfully devoid of women to challenge her. I mean the male category is always stacked to where basically every candidate could win, but that's far from the case for FVOTY. If Kacey Musgraves blows up with her sophomore era I fully believe that the industry would be willing to pass the crown, because they've already given her a lot of love already. That's the point I'm trying to make though. I expected, heck everyone expected, Miranda to win. It's not like I'm upset Carrie lost and having a tantrum "Carrie will never ever win again.... WAAAAH!". I'm saying it's not as simple as voters looking over the accomplishments of a nominee or voting for who they're friends with. Of the CMA's more than 7,100 voting members, it's a label head and executives deciding who in their roster they'll throw their support behind. It's the agency throwing their support behind their clients. It's the tour promoter throwing their support behind those whose tour they're promoting. It's artists voting for their friends. It's radio executives voting for their golf or drinking buddies or who gave the best gifts or parties and made them feel special. There's no big conspiracy against particular persons. It's just business. The aggregate vote wins, meaning the more you're connected with the most currently powerful blocks, you win. Zac Brown Band recently announced a "strategic partnership" with Universal’s John Varvatos Records, Big Machine Label Group and Republic Records. Watch them get nominated for at least Group next CMAs. Can Carrie win again? Yes, IF power AND label priority shift, but not because she had a big year and challenged Miranda's accomplishments. The rules differ with the new, shiny, can't-be-avoided artists, but when it's business as usual, it's just that... business...and politics... and relationships. They can actually change the way things are done to avoid too much politicking and block voting. For instance, the Grammys have special nominating committees. There's still politics at work but, as even Zac Brown has admitted, it's less prevalent at the Grammys. Of course, the ACMs/CMAs will have to fine-tune the process to make it responsive to just one genre. No one seems to be interested in change though. As I said, it is what it is.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 7, 2014 8:06:49 GMT -5
Carrie isn't a part of the voting bloc, but she still receives a lot of support. With the right music and under the right curcumstances, she could win more. She does have a lot of voters on her side. Considering how uninvolved with the bloc she is, she has scored a considerable number of nominations since 2008. It's not like she's being ignored all together, she just doesn't receive enough support to win. She's here for years to come and in those years a lot can change. It's not like Miranda will keep winning forever, and I don't see anyone else as viable competitors right now. So one of these times I have to believe 'Female' will go to Carrie.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 7, 2014 9:39:21 GMT -5
It's been confirmed that artists peddle/campaign for the CMAs. Blake Shelton had a huge festival/fair for CMA voters after his concert at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville back in 2013. It's how he won AOTY. I was there. Brad had one in the same space. Many artists have after parties after shows in Nashville. Blake's was open to more than CMA voters. Anyone who was guests to his show were at the party. Carrie would do the same thing in a minute. I'd be shocked if she never wins a FVOTY at some point in the future.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 7, 2014 10:32:13 GMT -5
Eh. Sorry, but nobody had a bigger year than Carrie's 2012/2013 year (male or female), the main bulk of which (ranging from "Blown Away" to "See You Again", along with the entire Blown Away Tour) ran from the very beginning to the very end of the CMA's eligibility period. Same goes for her Play On Tour year, but that also came at Miranda's breakout, so I understand that one (more or less). Still, though, Miranda's reign, had all things been considered & divided up deservingly, should have ended last year. If last year couldn't get Carrie the win back, I really don't know how she ever will manage it again. And to be honest, I think the fans care about her winning FVOTY again about 1,000x more than Carrie herself does, lol. I agree about 2012 because of her album release + "Good Girl" and "Blown Away." But in 2013, Miranda had "Mama's Broken Heart" blow up really big (bigger than the second set of singles from Blown Away). So, yeah, I remember wanting and expecting Carrie to win in the fall of 2012, but every other year I believe Miranda was at least her equal competitor, or she just had her beat (2011, 2014). The problem with them continuing to give it to Miranda is not that they keep giving it to her (she's basically been deserving of at least 4/5 of her wins), but there's like so little competition in the field. Gone are the days when we had many female artists having big success at once. As much as I'd like to see Carrie win again, I'd also just really enjoy seeing someone new become big enough to win it, i.e. Kacey Musgraves.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 7, 2014 10:52:49 GMT -5
Carrie would do the same thing in a minute. Except for the small matter of the fact that she...hasn't. I'm not interested in making a "Carrie is pure as driven snow" argument, but yours is a completely unsupported hypothetical. For the sake of accurate representation, here is how The Tennessean described Blake's campaign event from last year: leilamaurizia, the only thing missing from your posts was the mic drop. Yours is a pretty clear-headed assessment of the voting dynamic, and one with which I largely agree. I do want to point out, though, that Zac Brown Band did get nominated for CMA Vocal Group of the Year this year. Of course, as various members of the group have pointed out, they have no chance of a win at the CMAs/ACMs. I'm not entirely convinced that an alliance with Big Machine will change that. It's not as if Big Machine proved to be much of a force this year...Tim McGraw's "Meanwhile Back at Mama's" with Faith Hill, which struck me as a pretty beloved track, couldn't pull a win in either of its nominated categories, and in fact, BMLG's only victory was the (for now) obvious one in the Duo category. As 14887fan has already pointed out here, the dynamic among Grammy voters appears to be different (at least, as I've pointed out in the past, in alternate years). Hunter Hayes scored a surprise Grammy nomination last year (as well as a performance slot), Kacey Musgraves took home the 2014 Grammy for Best Country Album after Blake won the corresponding CMA , Zac Brown Band won the Grammy for Best Country Album in 2013, Carrie's track record has already been mentioned, etc. I think that we can expect to see the artists who are on the outside looking in when it comes to the current CMA/ACM environment to make extra pushes for recognition in the Grammy environment. I'm kind of scared to come into this thread being that I'm a Blake fan! I know people are getting sick of him winning and I would agree IF he had an off year but he keeps having hit after hit and doing very well( He did have a sold out tour... a #1 album and a bunch of #1 songs) so I think it not unfair that he won.. I truly think next year Dierks will get it.. IMO I think the reason you're seeing this much fatigue is that it has been the same conversation every year for a few years at this point...every year in the CMA thread, there's talk of how maybe next year will be the year when a male who leaves Blake in the dust commercially (Jason or Luke), critically (this year, Dierks), or both (Eric) will win CMA Male Vocalist. It hasn't happened. Next year, Blake will once again have been in an active album cycle for most of the eligibility period, and based on how things have gone the past few years, there is little reason to think that the CMA's fixation will end anytime soon. Miranda had a big album year and was the most active of the female artists. If Carrie had released "Water" earlier in the year, she'd have been more of a competition. I suspect next year she may snag that vocalist award from Miranda. Parallel to my comments above and as a number of people have pointed out, the conversation in 2012 was about how maybe in 2013, with a full year of activity in support of Blown Away, Carrie Underwood could take home the ACM/CMA Female Vocalist award that even Miranda Lambert acknowledged she deserved. It didn't happen, and there is no reason to think that this is going to change just because Carrie's activity/acclaim/success may amp up or because Kacey may release a successful sophomore album. Obviously, the Blake/Miranda joint reign will end at some point. But the notion that next year will bring shifts isn't terribly convincing at the moment. I just have to say, the fact that Miranda now has more FVOTY awards than Reba McEntire is an embarrassment the genre will never live down. To me, it is far more embarrassing that Blake Shelton now has as many CMA Male Vocalist trophies as Vince Gill. Since this post is largely in service of looking ahead, I went back to look at my predictions: Meghan Trainor and Miranda will open the CMAs with "All About That Bass," maybe in a medley with a Miranda song as avalyn suggests. Miranda will perform her next single later in the show. Kind of (they performed second, but were part of the opening, and Miranda did indeed perform her next single later in the show. -Garth & Trisha will present the first award of the night: Song of the Year. Nope! Wrong on the first award of the night, wrong on the presenters. -George Strait will perform in the first hour, providing the first indication of the night that the CMAs involve country music. Wrong again. -The Band Perry will perform "Gentle on My Mind" at the beginning of the third hour of the CMAs. It's a good thing we weren't being graded for this. -The Doobie Brothers will perform in the last half hour of the show, and possibly close the show. Yes and yes! -Kacey Musgraves will perform "Cup of Tea" and make it available as a digital single without promoting it to radio. Not even close. So of six predictions made, I got two right. And that makes me a: (Thanks joey2002)
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 7, 2014 11:13:31 GMT -5
43dudleyvillas, I'm well aware of Blake's "campaign." It was actually quite tongue-in-cheek. As I said above, I was at this event. And if Carrie were nominated and playing a show in Nashville during the voting period (like Blake WAS), her label and agents would most definitely put on a post-show party to try and get people's votes. You can say it's speculation or hyperbole on my part all you want, but the label (and by extension Carrie) would put such an event on, just like Blake's team did. Why is it "embarrassing" that Blake Shelton's won as many as Vince Gill? He's a great vocalist and the awards have ALL come when he's one of the genre's biggest stars. I don't see the problem here. Still, I would like to see others win it, same with FVOTY. As for other comments about CMA voting, Where does everyone think Narvel Blackstock and Starstruck Management gets all these votes from? It's not like they have the power of major labels to try and convince the 6k-plus CMA membership to vote. Yes, vote trading does happen but it's not any different than any other industry award campaigns.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 7, 2014 11:36:48 GMT -5
And if Carrie were nominated and playing a show in Nashville during the voting period (like Blake WAS), her label and agents would most definitely put on a post-show party to try and get people's votes. You can say it's speculation or hyperbole on my part all you want, but the label (and by extension Carrie) would put such an event on, just like Blake's team did. Carrie played the Bridgestone Arena on 23 September 2012 ( Tennessean review/report), and on 13 October 2010 ( Tennessean review/report). Both during CMA voting season (Blake's Bridgestone show was on 14 September 2013). No such campaign events were reported after either show.
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