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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 1, 2014 12:42:19 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Shake It Off 401,000 People give Suit & Tie a lot of flak and say that it was only a hit because of JT, but do you guys really think Shake it off would have been this big if it was any other but Taylor Swift's? Can you imagine, say, Carly Rae Jepsen's Shake it off even hitting top 10? Of course it wouldn't be. It has a lot of hype. Image is like 75% of why most songs become such big hits and Taylor's image is much more important and better than Carly's. |
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Post by crystalphnx on Sept 1, 2014 12:44:00 GMT -5
People give Suit & Tie a lot of flak and say that it was only a hit because of JT, but do you guys really think Shake it off would have been this big if it was any other but Taylor Swift's? Can you imagine, say, Carly Rae Jepsen's Shake it off even hitting top 10? no, but that's just the reality of mainstream music, and it certainly doesn't only apply to Taylor. I made this point in the SIO thread once, and it just seems like a really obvious truth that an artist's brand/image is a HUGE factor in pop/mainstream music (which surely applies to other genres as well). I feel like you can pick pretty much any hit song by any trendy artist, and if you assign it to a much less trendy artist, it almost definitely wouldn't have performed as well. of course, this doesn't mean that Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Rihanna, etc. can make literally ANY song into a hit, but the fact that their brands are perceived very favorably right now obviously works in their favor and influences success more than song "quality". basically, the fact that the public's perception of an artist means much more than the "quality" of any individual song they release applies to pretty much every mainstream act. |
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Post by musicismylife on Sept 1, 2014 13:39:09 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Shake It Off 401,000 2. All About That Bass 285,000 3. Bang Bang 266,000 4. Anaconda 203,000 5. Black Widow 193,000 6. Break Free 145,000 7. Guts Over Fear 129,000 8. Stay With Me 128,000 9. Boom Clap 98,000 10. Maps 97,000 11. Chandelier 95,000 12. Rather Be 90,000 13. Animals 87,000 14. Problem 86,000 15. Burnin' It Down 81,000 16. Don't Tell 'Em 76,000 17. Cool Kids 72,000 18. Rude 69,000 19. Fancy 68,000 20. Amnesia 66,000 kworb.net/ccWow, Taylor Swift could get another 400K week. She's really dominating iTunes. I wonder how long she'll stay on top until it gets overthrown by AATB. Also, hi! I've been following the boards for a while, and now I've decided to join, so hello! |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 1, 2014 18:26:01 GMT -5
Spotify Top 50 Streams:
1Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass3,052,091 plays
2Ariana Grande - Break Free2,854,184 plays
3Sam Smith - Stay With Me2,795,268 plays
4Jessie J - Bang Bang2,637,533 plays
5Sia - Chandelier2,349,771 plays
6Iggy Azalea - Black Widow2,314,464 plays
7MAGIC! - Rude2,233,355 plays
8Nicki Minaj - Anaconda2,092,798 plays
9Ariana Grande - Problem2,080,967 plays
10Iggy Azalea - Fancy1,970,488 plays
11Becky G - Shower1,926,909 plays
12Clean Bandit - Rather Be (feat. Jess Glynne)1,761,889 plays
13Charli XCX - Boom Clap1,717,076 plays
14Nico & Vinz - Am I Wrong1,682,670 plays
15Echosmith - Cool Kids1,609,782 plays
16Maroon 5 - Maps1,583,866 plays
17Disclosure - Latch1,557,538 plays
18Vance Joy - Riptide1,470,804 plays
19Milky Chance - Stolen Dance1,371,492 plays
20Calvin Harris - Summer1,362,533 plays
21Ed Sheeran - Don't1,361,447 plays
22Coldplay - A Sky Full Of Stars1,329,760 plays
23Drake - 0 To 100 / The Catch Up1,265,767 plays
24Tove Lo - Stay High - Habits Remix1,195,419 plays
25Jason Aldean - Burnin' It Down1,176,867 plays
26MKTO - Classic1,157,381 plays
27Sam Hunt - Leave The Night On1,140,448 plays
28Jeremih - Don't Tell 'Em1,041,269 plays
29Maroon 5 - Animals1,040,690 plays
30John Legend - All of Me1,018,440 plays
31Tiësto - Wasted1,018,145 plays
32Florida Georgia Line - Dirt1,007,673 plays
33Wiz Khalifa - We Dem Boyz1,004,912 plays
34Ariana Grande - Best Mistake993,092 plays
355 Seconds Of Summer - Amnesia987,456 plays
36Kiesza - Hideaway952,308 plays
37Katy Perry - Dark Horse928,559 plays
38Demi Lovato - Really Don't Care928,243 plays
39Jason Derulo - Wiggle (feat. Snoop Dogg)917,484 plays
40Bastille - Pompeii912,565 plays
41Katy Perry - This Is How We Do902,389 plays
42Fifth Harmony - BO$$897,844 plays
43Ed Sheeran - Sing891,466 plays
44OneRepublic - Counting Stars883,252 plays
455 Seconds Of Summer - She Looks So Perfect859,282 plays
46Childish Gambino - 3005850,707 plays
47Sam Smith - Money On My Mind831,371 plays
48Eminem - Guts Over Fear803,970 plays
49Ariana Grande - My Everything803,555 plays
50Jason Derulo - Trumpets802,594 plays
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Post by josh on Sept 1, 2014 18:29:33 GMT -5
2Ariana Grande - Break Free2,854,184 plays
4Jessie J Ariana Grande - Bang Bang2,637,533 plays
9Ariana Grande - Problem2,080,967 plays
34Ariana Grande - Best Mistake993,092 plays
49Ariana Grande - My Everything803,555 plays
:O :O :O :O :O that legendariana domination though
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Post by felipe on Sept 1, 2014 18:39:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 18:41:01 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Shake It Off 401,000 People give Suit & Tie a lot of flak and say that it was only a hit because of JT, but do you guys really think Shake it off would have been this big if it was any other but Taylor Swift's? Can you imagine, say, Carly Rae Jepsen's Shake it off even hitting top 10?To be fair, I can't see Carly going top 10 with other songs either. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 1, 2014 18:45:28 GMT -5
Quick question about streaming: when you watch a short clip from the song (e.g. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwqiKh1twTM) does it still count as one view? Is there a limit, like the video must feature at least 5 seconds of the song? A video has to feature at least 25-30 seconds of a song, ala "Harlem Shake". |
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Post by felipe on Sept 1, 2014 18:47:49 GMT -5
Quick question about streaming: when you watch a short clip from the song (e.g. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwqiKh1twTM) does it still count as one view? Is there a limit, like the video must feature at least 5 seconds of the song? A video has to feature at least 25-30 seconds of a song, ala "Harlem Shake". So the rule is at least 25 sec? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 18:52:04 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Shake It Off 401,000 4. Anaconda 203,000 kworb.net/ccLast week Shake It Off was 544k and Anaconda was 120k, so the sales difference is going to collapse from 424k to 200k. Between Shake It Off's 9th day and Anaconda gaining steam, it looks the the airplay difference between them won't be too substantial from last week. On the VEVO worldwide chart, "Anaconda" ends the week at 68 million views and "Shake It Off" with 42 million. I'd be completely shocked if at least 15-20 million of Nicki's video streams didn't come from the US. Right now Shake It Off is at 64 million views (+22), Anaconda is at 112 million (+44). I'm not sure how that corresponds to the BB chart week, but could Nicki actually take the top spot this week? <3 |
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 1, 2014 21:42:50 GMT -5
If Anaconda has at least 14-15 million more streams than SIO, then Nicki has the #1.
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Post by felipe on Sept 1, 2014 21:50:17 GMT -5
How does the current formula work? The streaming - sales - airplay ratio?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 22:10:53 GMT -5
Oh god I dread the thought of Anaconda being number one...I would be fine with Starships or Super Bass or Turn Me On but NOT Anaconda!
Maybe Meghan Trainor can come in just in time and take the top spot?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 1, 2014 22:22:45 GMT -5
Oh god I dread the thought of Anaconda being number one... Why not? It was already #1 for 6 weeks in 1992. ;) |
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Sept 1, 2014 22:57:35 GMT -5
I would be so happy if Anaconda hit No. 1. Does it really stand a chance though? I figured last week was its only shot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 23:32:50 GMT -5
I would be so happy if Anaconda hit No. 1. Does it really stand a chance though? I figured last week was its only shot. well it's holding up longer than expected...there's no way it will fall out of the top three this week. It is a possibility if thirsty people keep watching the video to look at her ass that it could be #1. |
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Post by Bhad Bill on Sept 2, 2014 1:01:01 GMT -5
I would be so happy if Anaconda hit No. 1. Does it really stand a chance though? I figured last week was its only shot. well it's holding up longer than expected...there's no way it will fall out of the top three this week. It is a possibility if thirsty people keep watching the video to look at her ass that it could be #1. I really do understand where you are coming from but you are seriously a buzzkill for Anaconda. It's so much fun, it's old Nick Minaj finally mainstream. In her mixtapes she sampled, was dirty, and talked and laughed. This is like that, mixed with the hilarity that this is the follow up to the more toned down attitude she started this era with. While Pills N Potions was successful, it wasn't as big as Nicki needed, so she was basically like, "Alright, that's it. I know exactly how to snatch the spotlight." And shook her ass and rapped about it a lot. And she did it! She got millions of views, so much conversation started, #2 on the hot 100... so much fun twerking in the club! Plus some of those rhymes are quoting gold. So I completely understand why you think it is ridiculous and over sampled and don't want it too successful, but you have to appreciate why people are eating this up. |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 2, 2014 6:08:38 GMT -5
200k is is still a pretty big difference in the digital sales department (lol) and the airplay gap between "Anaconda" and "Shake It Off" continues to widen (and that gap is already substantial).
Streaming from her music video, at this point, is pretty much the shot Nicki has at dethroning "Shake It Off".
Personally speaking, even though I love the song, it does kind of irk me that "Anaconda" could topple a song that is far more popular in sales and airplay (and likely streaming if available) due to its provacitive video (because in this specific instance it is the provocative video that is resonating more with people as opposed to the song itself - not to say the song isn't resonating at all, it is, just not enough to warrant being #1). I think music videos altogether shouldn't be included in the Hot 100 formula. But hey, it IS the new way of thangs so if it does achieve it, it deserved it. lol
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Post by Daniel Collins on Sept 2, 2014 6:18:17 GMT -5
Taylor Swift is the only artist since the on-demand streaming era to get to the top twice without the help of On-Demand streams
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 6:41:30 GMT -5
Top 10 flashbacks for this week
1 year ago (9/14/2013)
1 2 Roar - Katy Perry (1st week of 2 @ #1)
2 1 Blurred Lines - Robin Thicke feat. T.I. & Pharrell Williams
3 – Berzerk - Eminem
4 3 We Can't Stop - Miley Cyrus
5 6 Holy Grail - Jay-Z feat. Justin Timberlake
6 4 Applause - Lady Gaga
7 7 Wake Me Up! - Avicii
8 12 Royals - Lorde
9 5 Radioactive - Imagine Dragons
10 9 Summertime Sadness - Lana Del Rey
5 years ago (9/12/2009)
1 1 I Gotta Feeling - Black Eyed Peas (10th week of 14 @ #1)
2 3 Down - Jay Sean feat. Lil Wayne
3 2 Party In The U.S.A. - Miley Cyrus
4 6 Use Somebody - Kings Of Leon
5 4 You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift
6 5 Run This Town - Jay-Z, Rihanna & Kanye West
7 7 Best I Ever Had - Drake
8 8 Knock You Down - Keri Hilson feat. Kanye West & Ne-Yo
9 10 Hotel Room Service - Pitbull
10 9 Good Girls Go Bad - Cobra Starship feat. Leighton Meester
10 years ago (9/11/2004)
1 3 Goodies - Ciara feat. Petey deleted (1st week of 7 @ #1)
2 1 Lean Back - Terror Squad
3 2 Sunshine - Lil Flip
4 4 My Place - Nelly
5 7 Dip It Low - Christina Milian
6 5 Turn Me On - Kevin Lyttle
7 6 Slow Motion - Juvenile feat. Soulja Slim
8 8 Pieces Of Me - Ashlee Simpson
9 14 She Will Be Loved - Maroon 5
10 10 If I Ain't Got You - Alicia Keys
15 years ago (9/11/1999)
1 1 Bailamos - Enrique Iglesias (2nd and final week @ #1)
2 4 Unpretty - TLC
3 3 Summer Girls - LFO
4 2 Genie In A Bottle - Christina Aguilera
5 – Lost In You - Chris Gaines (Garth Brooks)
6 8 Smooth - Santana feat. Rob Thomas
7 5 All Star - Smash Mouth
8 7 Where My Girls At? - 702
9 6 Bills, Bills, Bills - Destiny's Child
10 10 Someday - Sugar Ray
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 2, 2014 7:10:06 GMT -5
Daniel C, looking for one of those obscure records to tout? ;)
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Post by Caviar on Sept 2, 2014 7:35:11 GMT -5
I can't at 702 still SLAYING the top 10.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Sept 2, 2014 9:31:01 GMT -5
Interesting that Bailando is not in Top 50 streams. That's the component that is missing for him because sales have been close to Top 20 and airplay is in Top 20. Is it not available on Spotify or people aren't listening?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 2, 2014 9:32:54 GMT -5
Interesting that Bailando is not in Top 50 streams. That's the component that is missing for him because sales have been close to Top 20 and airplay is in Top 20. Is it not available on Spotify or people aren't listening? Spanglish version is #54 on Spotify and the Spanish version is #98. |
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Post by Spidey on Sept 2, 2014 9:49:49 GMT -5
2Ariana Grande - Break Free2,854,184 plays 4 Jessie J Ariana Grande - Bang Bang2,637,533 plays 9Ariana Grande - Problem2,080,967 plays 34Ariana Grande - Best Mistake993,092 plays 49Ariana Grande - My Everything803,555 plays :O :O :O :O :O that legendariana domination though I guess we have our answer as to why album sales were underwhelming. Everyone is streaming the album lol. I wonder how the rest of her songs did on Spotify. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 9:52:56 GMT -5
Is Taylor the only artist since the on-demand streaming era to get to the top twice without the help of On-Demand streams? I think WANEGBT was available on on-demand (peaked at #3) |
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Post by icefire9 on Sept 2, 2014 9:57:28 GMT -5
Is Taylor the only artist since the on-demand streaming era to get to the top twice without the help of On-Demand streams? I think WANEGBT was available on on-demand (peaked at #3) It wasn't available on on-demand when it hit #1. It was withheld at first as a tactic to increase sales. |
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Post by Spidey on Sept 2, 2014 10:01:27 GMT -5
I think WANEGBT was available on on-demand (peaked at #3) It wasn't available on on-demand when it hit #1. It was withheld at first as a tactic to increase sales. This. They did the same with "I Knew You Were Trouble" and that ultimately cost it #1 on the Hot 100. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 2, 2014 10:05:52 GMT -5
2Ariana Grande - Break Free2,854,184 plays 4 Jessie J Ariana Grande - Bang Bang2,637,533 plays 9Ariana Grande - Problem2,080,967 plays 34Ariana Grande - Best Mistake993,092 plays 49Ariana Grande - My Everything803,555 plays :O :O :O :O :O that legendariana domination though I guess we have our answer as to why album sales were underwhelming. Everyone is streaming the album lol. I wonder how the rest of her songs did on Spotify. Almost the entire album was top 100 on Spotify last week though the only one charting below the top 50 now is "Bring Your Heart Right Back" at #89. "Love Me Harder" and "Be My Baby" just dropped out of the top 100. |
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Post by Clauss on Sept 2, 2014 10:08:44 GMT -5
But they prefer sales (mofe profit) than #1
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