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Post by Kris on Aug 30, 2014 5:50:14 GMT -5
37. AVICII - Wake Me Up: 44.248 (+0.071) ▲
Just realized this wasn't out of the top 40 for too long lol
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Aug 30, 2014 6:14:37 GMT -5
Seeing as how Obama didn't actually have a hand in making that version, it would chart separately but be credited to the actual maker of the video. But has this ever happened for one of these songs to chart? How many views would they need to hit the Hot 100 on streaming alone? The Anaconda Fart Remix will probably have close to 5 million views by the end of the week, and I assume at least half of those will be US views. The fart video isn't even a song though lol |
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Post by felipe on Aug 30, 2014 10:53:24 GMT -5
But has this ever happened for one of these songs to chart? How many views would they need to hit the Hot 100 on streaming alone? The Anaconda Fart Remix will probably have close to 5 million views by the end of the week, and I assume at least half of those will be US views. The fart video isn't even a song though lol It has a beat, so that would be enough to classify it as a song, no? Unless Billboard states a song must have lyrics in order to be able to chart. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 30, 2014 11:04:18 GMT -5
Taylor has that second week on lock, right? Unless "All About that Bass" absolutely kills her in streaming
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Post by pnobelysk on Aug 30, 2014 14:06:11 GMT -5
The fart video isn't even a song though lol It has a beat, so that would be enough to classify it as a song, no? Unless Billboard states a song must have lyrics in order to be able to chart. songs without lyrics can chart, though I have no idea if this fall under that category |
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Post by rimetm on Aug 30, 2014 14:23:28 GMT -5
What everybody's forgetting is that a song has to be submitted to Nielsen SoundScan to actually track. I highly doubt whoever made that would bother.
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Post by felipe on Aug 30, 2014 16:11:49 GMT -5
What everybody's forgetting is that a song has to be submitted to Nielsen SoundScan to actually track. I highly doubt whoever made that would bother. So you mean that if Harlem Shake hadn't been submitted to SoundScan it wouldn't be allowed to chart? |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 30, 2014 16:49:06 GMT -5
What everybody's forgetting is that a song has to be submitted to Nielsen SoundScan to actually track. I highly doubt whoever made that would bother. So you mean that if Harlem Shake hadn't been submitted to SoundScan it wouldn't be allowed to chart? ... Yes |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 16:59:33 GMT -5
2-Day Update
1. SAM SMITH – Stay With Me: 209.612 (- 1.985)
2. MAGIC! – Rude: 178.354 (- 5.860)
3. NICO & VINZ – Am I Wrong: 172.775 (- 4.376)
4. CHARLI XCX – Boom Clap: 130.061 (+ 0.965)
5. MAROON 5 – Maps: 126.061 (+ 1.391)
6. DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 114.996 (- 5.597)
7. JEREMIH – Don’t Tell ‘Em f/YG: 112.086 (+ 2.246)
8. TAYLOR SWIFT – Shake It Off: 97.361 (+ 6.221)
9. MEGHAN TRAINOR – All About That Bass: 86.129 (+ 5.166)
10. ARIANA GRANDE – Break Free f/Zedd: 82.854 (+ 3.804) ▲
11. CLEAN BANDIT – Rather Be f/Jess Glynne: 79.977 (+ 1.250) ▲
12. IGGY AZALEA – Black Widow f/Rita Ora: 77.911 (+ 4.105) ▲
13. JOHN LEGEND – All Of Me: 77.894 (- 1.566) ▼
14. SIA – Chandelier: 76.508 (+ 0.752) ▲
15. ARIANA GRANDE – Problem f/Iggy Azalea: 76.090 (- 2.239) ▼
16. ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Bailando f/D.Bueno/S.Paul/GDZ: 72.931 (- 0.158) ▲
17. IGGY AZALEA – Fancy: 71.517 (- 5.004) ▼
18. COLDPLAY – A Sky Full Of Stars: 70.619 (+ 2.267) ▲
19. LADY ANTEBELLUM – Bartender: 67.825 (+ 1.003) ▲
20. TINASHE – 2 On f/Schoolboy Q: 67.217 (- 1.401) ▼
KENNY CHESNEY – American Kids: 64.465 (+ 0.904)
JESSIE J/A. GRANDE/N. MINAJ – Bang Bang: 64.450 (+ 2.053)
DUSTIN LYNCH – Where It’s At: 62.204 (+ 1.301)
SCHOOLBOY Q – Studio f/BJ The Chicago Kid: 55.977 (+ 0.383)
COLE SWINDELL – Hope You Get Lonely Tonight: 55.780 (+ 0.435)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Dirt: 53.022 (+ 2.056)
LUKE BRYAN – Roller Coaster: 52.517 (+ 2.421)
ECHOSMITH – Cool Kids: 43.483 (+ 1.801)
JASON ALDEAN – Burnin’ It Down: 40.071 (+ 0.241)
T.I. – No Mediocre f/Iggy Azalea: 39.827 (+ 0.470)
M. LAMBERT & C. UNDERWOOD – Somethin’ Bad: 38.625 (+ 0.826)
KIESZA – Hideaway: 35.648 (+ 0.577)
ED SHEERAN – Don’t: 34.579 (+ 1.656)
CHRIS BROWN – New Flame f/Rick Ross: 33.726 (+ 0.974)
NICKI MINAJ – Anaconda : 32.662 (+ 1.710)
TOVE LO – Habits (Stay High): 32.535 (+ 1.646)
LITTLE BIG TOWN – Day Drinking: 29.628 (+ 0.646)
DRAKE – 0 To 100/The Catch Up: 28.315 (+ 1.089)
KATY PERRY – This Is How We Do: 27.552 (+ 1.439)
TRAIN – Angel In Blue Jeans: 24.703 (+ 0.221)
BLAKE SHELTON – Neon Light: 21.541 (+ 1.809)
5 SECONDS OF SUMMER – Amnesia: 21.445 (+ 0.663)
BEYONCE – Flawless: 21.011 (+ 2.062)
PITBULL – Fireball f/John Ryan: 15.695 (+ 1.383)
MARY LAMBERT – Secrets: 14.390 (+ 0.725)
MILKY CHANCE – Stolen Dance: 13.389
DIRTY HEADS – My Sweet Summer: 10.026
HOZIER – Take Me To Church: 8.024 (+ 0.108)
JASON DERULO – Trumpets: 4.915 (+ 0.877)
BASTILLE – Flaws: 4.134 (- 0.005)
RIXTON – Wait On Me: 2.263
EMINEM – Guts Over Fear f/Sia: 1.880 (+ 0.459)
COBRA STARSHIP – Never Been In Love f/Icona Pop: 0.592 (+ 0.054)
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Post by Gary on Aug 30, 2014 17:19:24 GMT -5
So you mean that if Harlem Shake hadn't been submitted to SoundScan it wouldn't be allowed to chart? ... Yes So Soudscan is the factor that determines chart eligibility as opposed to streaming and airplay?
Soundscan is sales, how is it related to the others?
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Aug 30, 2014 17:30:51 GMT -5
What everybody's forgetting is that a song has to be submitted to Nielsen SoundScan to actually track. I highly doubt whoever made that would bother. Never knew that! |
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Post by thebops on Aug 30, 2014 18:58:17 GMT -5
Gosh - I just watched Anaconda for the first time. She does next to nothing to add to the "Baby Got Back" song... the only thing she does is shake her big booty. I know sales hit #6 last week but the #2 Hot 100 peak is due in large part to the stupid video. I guess I contributed a play to it for the next week, and I regret that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 19:03:48 GMT -5
Gosh - I just watched Anaconda for the first time. She does next to nothing to add to the "Baby Got Back" song... the only thing she does is shake her big booty. I know sales hit #6 last week but the #2 Hot 100 peak is due in large part to the stupid video. I guess I contributed a play to it for the next week, and I regret that. I'm glad someone agrees with me there! And oh the benefit of living in Canada, where I can watch a music video as many times as I want (not that I ever want to watch Anaconda again, and I didn't even fully watch it the first time, only about a minute of it) without it counting towards a chart (Canadian Hot 100 does not include YouTube streaming points I believe).  Although Kworb predicts Anaconda will sell 200k this week, so I guess people actually do like it then! Still though I agree #2 is too high...#4 or #5 is reasonable I would say. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 30, 2014 19:24:47 GMT -5
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Post by felipe on Aug 30, 2014 20:24:06 GMT -5
I don't quite get it. So in order to be eligible to chart it needs to have some airplay (which is tracked by broadcast Data Systems)? |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 30, 2014 20:53:43 GMT -5
^Some songs have charted with very little radio airplay.
Everything is counted electronically.
Years ago, a guy in radio told me some company hired people to listen live and report what radio stations played.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 20:55:24 GMT -5
I don't quite get it. So in order to be eligible to chart it needs to have some airplay (which is tracked by broadcast Data Systems)? Not really...I think it's just that a label or producer has to basically say (and presumably pay some money) to SoundScan and/or BDS "here is a song, please track its popularity". I'm not so sure "We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" had any airplay (maybe I am wrong and it did have a measly amount). |
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Post by wavey. on Aug 30, 2014 22:17:48 GMT -5
If ya'll don't leave Anaconda alone now lmao.
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Post by Gary on Aug 30, 2014 22:50:57 GMT -5
Week 1 of 'The Fox' by Ylvis charted based soley on streaming. It was not yet on itunes and clearly had no airplay.
Nowadays there are three components, hitting on one of them will get you in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 22:54:24 GMT -5
Week 1 of 'The Fox' by Ylvis charted based soley on streaming. It was not yet on itunes and clearly had no airplay. Nowadays there are three components, hitting on one of them will get you in. Yep, Weird Al's "Word Crimes" probably wasn't sent to radio... |
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Post by rimetm on Aug 31, 2014 6:52:23 GMT -5
Week 1 of 'The Fox' by Ylvis charted based soley on streaming. It was not yet on itunes and clearly had no airplay. Nowadays there are three components, hitting on one of them will get you in. Nope, that's not evidence that solely entering streaming works (it might, but not in this case). To quote the article about The Fox on its #29 debut: Source: www.billboard.com/articles/news/5687397/ylvis-viral-hit-the-fox-debuts-on-hot-100That may be true, but it did get a sales release once that video came out. I know the music video was on the iTunes sales chart for a while after it got launched, and I'm pretty sure the song download itself got released at the same time. Either way, that would be a lock for tracking. Also, not to anyone in particular, but in the cases of "We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" and "Harlem Shake", those were early 2013 songs that were already on digital storefronts but weren't actually known, so they were ready to be tracked once they broke into the mainstream |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 31, 2014 8:27:57 GMT -5
Of course there are tracks that chart that have absolutely zero airplay. There isn't a requirement for it to have a certain level of airplay, just as tracks can chart with no sales or streaming points.
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Post by imbondz on Aug 31, 2014 8:42:08 GMT -5
I listened to Anaconda and freakin' lol'ed. the lyrics are hilarious, and I don't understand how that song isn't classified as a novelty song / or like a Weird Al Yankovic parody song.
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Post by Gary on Aug 31, 2014 8:51:46 GMT -5
Of course there are tracks that chart that have absolutely zero airplay. There isn't a requirement for it to have a certain level of airplay, just as tracks can chart with no sales or streaming points. Exactly
So I guess 'The Fox did not have ABSOLUTE ZERO airplay, a DJ or two played it in week 1. I know for a fact it had ZERO sales though. It was at that point an international phenomenon that was just catching on here via streaming and not yet available on US iTunes.
The 50 plays did not make it Hot 100 eligible, the streaming did.
A song only needs points on one of the three components to chart, it does not matter which one
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 31, 2014 9:25:53 GMT -5
I listened to Anaconda and freakin' lol'ed. the lyrics are hilarious, and I don't understand how that song isn't classified as a novelty song / or like a Weird Al Yankovic parody song. Much of Nicki Minaj falls into a weird in-between category like that. See also: "Stupid Hoe," "Itty Bitty Piggy," or even "Roman's Revenge." |
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Post by chartfreak on Aug 31, 2014 12:33:23 GMT -5
Of course there are tracks that chart that have absolutely zero airplay. There isn't a requirement for it to have a certain level of airplay, just as tracks can chart with no sales or streaming points. Exactly
So I guess 'The Fox did not have ABSOLUTE ZERO airplay, a DJ or two played it in week 1. I know for a fact it had ZERO sales though. It was at that point an international phenomenon that was just catching on here via streaming and not yet available on US iTunes.
The 50 plays did not make it Hot 100 eligible, the streaming did.
A song only needs points on one of the three components to chart, it does not matter which one
But it needs a certain amount of points from one of the three components to chart. :) |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 31, 2014 12:35:01 GMT -5
^That, and there are seven days in a week. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 21:49:06 GMT -5
Rap God was also never sent to radio I believe.
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Post by Kworb on Sept 1, 2014 11:47:58 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Shake It Off 401,000 2. All About That Bass 285,000 3. Bang Bang 266,000 4. Anaconda 203,000 5. Black Widow 193,000 6. Break Free 145,000 7. Guts Over Fear 129,000 8. Stay With Me 128,000 9. Boom Clap 98,000 10. Maps 97,000 11. Chandelier 95,000 12. Rather Be 90,000 13. Animals 87,000 14. Problem 86,000 15. Burnin' It Down 81,000 16. Don't Tell 'Em 76,000 17. Cool Kids 72,000 18. Rude 69,000 19. Fancy 68,000 20. Amnesia 66,000 kworb.net/cc |
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Post by felipe on Sept 1, 2014 12:25:22 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Shake It Off 401,000 People give Suit & Tie a lot of flak and say that it was only a hit because of JT, but do you guys really think Shake it off would have been this big if it was any other but Taylor Swift's? Can you imagine, say, Carly Rae Jepsen's Shake it off even hitting top 10? |
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