Billboard Hot 100 : 09/13/2014

[KeepDeanWeird]

Sept 3, 2014 11:56:32 GMT -5 irice22 said:

"Anaconda" hitting #1 does bother me. Or I'm at least ambivalent about it. It's strange to me that a song can dominate so much in sales and still miss the #1 spot (i.e. "Roar's" first week,), but a song that dominates in YouTube views can fly straight to the top. Does that make it the #1 song in America, or the #1 video?

Since H100 merges all sorts of data to determine popularity, #1 video is no less valid than a song that sells massively (with limited airplay) - think all the AI songs that went to #1 or Glee songs that somehow little the Billboard charts (seriously, the #1 charting act of all time?) I argued back in the MTV days that video play should count because people were hearing and consuming music that way. What difference did it make that it was through TV or radio? Plus, at that time, MTV play made a huge impact on sales. H100 is far from perfect - think early in digital era when sales were almost a 2:1 ratio to airplay because sales were "low." It took Billboard a few years to adjust that sales were weighted far too heavily because sales soared and so the formula was adjust again.

[Caviar]

They need to announce the #1 already.

[Pikachu.]

Taylor is #1, from her twitter

[Duca]

Taylor Swift's 'Shake It Off' Holds At No. 1 On Hot 100
Swift spends a second week on top, fending off runner-up Meghan Trainor and the surging trio of Jessie J, Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj.

Taylor Swift scores a second week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart with "Shake It Off." The song debuted at the summit last week.

Meanwhile, Meghan Trainor rebounds 3-2 with "All About That Bass," while the trio of Jessie J, Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj powers 9-4 with "Bang Bang."

As we do each Wednesday (the day that the sales/airplay/streaming-based Hot 100 is compiled each week), let's run down the numbers behind all the movers and "shake"-rs in the top 10.

The lead single from Swift's album 1989, due Oct. 27, logs a second week atop the Hot 100 despite an overall 36 percent loss in points after its lofty launch last week. Still, "Shake" leads the Digital Songs chart for a second week with 355,000 downloads sold (down 35 percent), according to Nielsen SoundScan. It's sold 899,000 in its first two weeks combined.

The song drops in sales despite Swift having performed it on the MTV Video Music Awards on Sunday, Aug. 24. (Her appearance likely helped the song from decreasing further, as a significant loss was to be expected after its mammoth first week, the fourth-biggest debut frame [544,000] ever.)

On the Streaming Songs chart, "Shake" dips 2-4 with a 52 percent fall to 8.8 million U.S. streams in its second week, according to Nielsen BDS. (With the song not available on on-demand audio subscription services, almost all its streaming points are again via Vevo on YouTube clicks for its official video, which dropped Aug. 18.)

"Shake" is on the rise at radio, however, zooming 9-7 with a 24 percent increase to 88 million in all-format audience, according to BDS. On the Pop Songs radio airplay chart, the track leaps 12-8 in its second week, tying eight other songs for the quickest ascent to the top 10 (since the list launched in 1992). It's just the third song in nearly 10 years to reach the top bracket in as few as two frames: in 2011, Britney Spears' "Hold It Against Me" and Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" also needed just two weeks each to reach the Pop Songs top 10.

Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" returns to its No. 2 Hot 100 highpoint (3-2) with top Airplay Gainer honors for a third consecutive week (and a 3 percent gain in overall points). It's the first debut hit by a female artist to link three straight weeks winning the award since Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe" in 2012. "Bass" reaches the Radio Songs top 10 (11-9; up 28 percent to 82 million); holds at No. 2 on Digital Songs (which it led for two weeks) with a 6 percent decline to 266,000; and rebounds 3-2 on Streaming Songs (which it topped for a week), up by 6 percent to 12.2 million. It dips 1-2 after a week atop the subscription services-based On-Demand Songs chart, but with a 10 percent gain to 3.6 million.

"Bass" swaps spots on the Hot 100 with Nicki Minaj's "Anaconda," which drops 2-3 after vaulting from No. 39 to No. 2 last week. The song spends a second week atop Streaming Songs but decreases by 46 percent to 17.3 million. (Last week, it rocketed 42-1 on Streaming Songs with a 1,287 percent gain to 32.1 million following the Aug. 19 premiere of its steamy video; 81 percent of its streaming points stem from Vevo on YouTube, down from 95 percent last week.)

"Anaconda" rises 6-4 on Digital Songs with a 57 percent jump to 188,000. Like Swift, Minaj performed her new hit as part of the VMAs' show-opening medley (read on for details). The cut also builds in airplay, slithering onto Radio Songs at No. 40 with 31 million in audience (up 26 percent). It snares a second week at No. 1 on both Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Rap Songs.

Minaj, meanwhile, lands a second concurrent hit in the Hot 100's top five for the first time, as "Bang Bang," billed as by Jessie J, new Billboard 200 leader Ariana Grande and Minaj, roars 9-4. The collab claims the top Digital and Streaming Gainer awards after the three divas performed it, mixed with "Anaconda," to open the VMAs, while its video premiered the following day (Aug. 25). "Bang" blasts by 54 percent to 244,000 sold, holding at No. 3 on Digital Songs, and flies 12-3 on Streaming Songs (up by 104 percent to 11 million). It charges 5-1 on On-Demand Songs with a 53 percent vault to 3.8 million.

"Bang" also grows in airplay, bounding 24-19 on Radio Songs (53 million, up 8 percent).

Rounding out the Hot 100's top five, Sam Smith's "Stay With Me" retreats 4-5 (after climbing to a No. 2 peak). It posts a fourth week at No. 1 on Radio Songs (152 million, down 7 percent).

Iggy Azalea's "Black Widow," featuring Rita Ora, holds at its No. 6 Hot 100 peak to date; Grande's "Break Free," featuring Zedd, stays at No. 7 and leads Hot Dance/Electronic Songs for a third week; MAGIC!'s former six-week No. 1 "Rude" falls 5-8; Sia's "Chandelier" dims from its No. 8 high to No. 9; and Charli XCX's "Boom Clap" returns to the top 10 (12-10, matching its best rank). As previously reported, "Boom Clap" crowns the Pop Songs chart with a 2-1 climb.

[Clauss]

YEEEES TAYTAY

[Pikachu.]

Sept 3, 2014 12:37:47 GMT -5 Duca said:

www.billboard.com/articles/news/6236690/taylor-swifts-shake-it-off-holds-at-no-1-on-hot-100

Can you copy and paste the article here? I'm getting Access Denied :(

[wavey.]

Fck. Lol. Well, props to Taylor, again.

[Joe1240]

Glad for Taylor to have a 2nd week at #1 on the Hot 100. Doesn't look like anything big is coming to beat it. Maybe a few more weeks at #1 and beat "Fancy"'s time at #1 for 2014. The right song is number one once again.

[irice22]

Yay.. I can't access the article.

[MFM29]

Sept 3, 2014 12:29:55 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Sept 3, 2014 11:56:32 GMT -5 irice22 said:

"Anaconda" hitting #1 does bother me. Or I'm at least ambivalent about it. It's strange to me that a song can dominate so much in sales and still miss the #1 spot (i.e. "Roar's" first week,), but a song that dominates in YouTube views can fly straight to the top. Does that make it the #1 song in America, or the #1 video?

Since H100 merges all sorts of data to determine popularity, #1 video is no less valid than a song that sells massively (with limited airplay) - think all the AI songs that went to #1 or Glee songs that somehow little the Billboard charts (seriously, the #1 charting act of all time?) I argued back in the MTV days that video play should count because people were hearing and consuming music that way. What difference did it make that it was through TV or radio? Plus, at that time, MTV play made a huge impact on sales. H100 is far from perfect - think early in digital era when sales were almost a 2:1 ratio to airplay because sales were "low." It took Billboard a few years to adjust that sales were weighted far too heavily because sales soared and so the formula was adjust again.

but the thing is like anaconda video you can see how many dislikes the video got on youtube. most of the people watched the video out of curiosity from all the buzz about it, it doesn't mean we all liked it and it's kinda weird to be #1 on hot100 despite being disliked by so many

[kanimal]

Sept 3, 2014 12:48:55 GMT -5 MFM29 said:

Sept 3, 2014 12:29:55 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Since H100 merges all sorts of data to determine popularity, #1 video is no less valid than a song that sells massively (with limited airplay) - think all the AI songs that went to #1 or Glee songs that somehow little the Billboard charts (seriously, the #1 charting act of all time?) I argued back in the MTV days that video play should count because people were hearing and consuming music that way. What difference did it make that it was through TV or radio? Plus, at that time, MTV play made a huge impact on sales. H100 is far from perfect - think early in digital era when sales were almost a 2:1 ratio to airplay because sales were "low." It took Billboard a few years to adjust that sales were weighted far too heavily because sales soared and so the formula was adjust again.

but the thing is like anaconda video you can see how many dislikes the video got on youtube. most of the people watched the video out of curiosity from all the buzz about it, it doesn't mean we all liked it and it's kinda weird to be #1 on hot100 despite being disliked by so many

But position on the Hot 100 is not directly related to a song's critical/fan acclaim.

Songs people like will obviously have an advantage - more sales, more long-term streams, more requests for airplay, etc - but they are not necessarily the most prominent songs in a given week.

I mean "All About That Bass" seems to have far more detractors than, say, "Rather Be," but it's still a more prominent song at this juncture.

[Caviar]

As long as "Anaconda" keeps staying steady on iTunes and continues to rise on Spotify and Vevo she's going to eventually take it.

[irice22]

Is it possible that she would continue to rise on Vevo? Seems like a steady decline form here on out.

[areyoureadytojump]

Sept 3, 2014 12:39:33 GMT -5 Pikachu. said:

Sept 3, 2014 12:37:47 GMT -5 Duca said:

www.billboard.com/articles/news/6236690/taylor-swifts-shake-it-off-holds-at-no-1-on-hot-100

Can you copy and paste the article here? I'm getting Access Denied :(

We are all getting access denied.

They haven't tweeted it. They must be editing it.

[Caviar]

Probably because they are trying to redact the statement. :kii:

[crystalphnx]

I personally don't have a problem with the inclusion of YouTube, but one thing that differentiates it from sales or airplay is people may watch a video with the song muted, and it still counts. they're strictly interested in the visual, not the song. Lord knows I did it with some of the HS clips (especially that one with the rugby team in the shower, but I digress...)

technically, someone could have the radio on with the volume turned down to 0...but that doesn't seem very likely.

technically, someone could buy a song and never listen to it...but that doesn't seem very likely.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 3, 2014 12:55:49 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Is it possible that she would continue to rise on Vevo? Seems like a steady decline form here on out.

Right.

[kanimal]

Sept 3, 2014 13:00:29 GMT -5 crystalphnx said:

I personally don't have a problem with the inclusion of YouTube, but one thing that differentiates it from sales or airplay is people may watch a video with the song muted, and it still counts. they're strictly interested in the visual, not the song. Lord knows I did it with some of the HS clips (especially that one with the rugby team in the shower, but I digress...)

technically, someone could have the radio on with the volume turned down to 0...but that doesn't seem very likely.

technically, someone could buy a song and never listen to it...but that doesn't seem very likely.

They're still accessing the song, and their viewership is still associated with the song.

I'm far more okay with counting someone who watches the "Anaconda" video on mute (and I don't think this is too common) than I am with counting someone who watches a comedy video that happens to have a chart-able song playing in the background.

The only potentially unfair issue associated with videos is people repeatedly streaming -- it's not like you can force a radio station to repeatedly play a song, and it would be too cost prohibitive to buy a song thousands of times.  I do think we can benefit from a better system of tracking unique views.

By the same token, there is still something to be said about a song that people are willing to repeatedly refresh.

[Deleted]

WTF?!!

[wavey.]

Sept 3, 2014 12:55:49 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Is it possible that she would continue to rise on Vevo? Seems like a steady decline form here on out.

It's possible. It's still fresh out. Plus the upcoming promotion will keep this intact. I'm simply glad it's not a rise and quick fall.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 3, 2014 13:10:48 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Sept 3, 2014 12:55:49 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Is it possible that she would continue to rise on Vevo? Seems like a steady decline form here on out.

It's possible.

Possible, but unfortunately not likely. The video has been viewed roughly 115 million times on You Tube. 50% of those views came within the first three days (58 million). Another 33 million between Aug 24-28. Finally, 23 million between Aug 29-today. The video most certainly has had a steady decline and will likely continue to do so.

[irice22]

I simply the think the wight on YouTube and streaming might need to be reevaluated. I don't think they need to be eliminated. I think someone mentioned that the audience impressions on airplay were being treated as the same weight as much lower audience impressions on streaming.

[wavey.]

I wish I knew how all this shit is calculated cause I want to make actual predictions lol.

[Caviar]

Swift spends a second week on top, fending off runner-up Meghan Trainor and the surging trio of Jessie J, Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj.

Taylor Swift scores a second week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart with "Shake It Off." The song debuted at the summit last week.

Meanwhile, Meghan Trainor rebounds 3-2 with "All About That Bass," while the trio of Jessie J, Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj powers 9-4 with "Bang Bang."

As we do each Wednesday (the day that the sales/airplay/streaming-based Hot 100 is compiled each week), let's run down the numbers behind all the movers and "shake"-rs in the top 10.

he lead single from Swift's album 1989, due Oct. 27, logs a second week atop the Hot 100 despite an overall 36 percent loss in points after its lofty launch last week. Still, "Shake" leads the Digital Songs chart for a second week with 355,000 downloads sold (down 35 percent), according to Nielsen SoundScan. It's sold 899,000 in its first two weeks combined.

Taylor Swift Dazzles During 'Shake It Off' Performance at MTV VMAs

The song drops in sales despite Swift having performed it on the MTV Video Music Awards on Sunday, Aug. 24. (Her appearance likely helped the song from decreasing further, as a significant loss was to be expected after its mammoth first week, the fourth-biggest debut frame [544,000] ever.)

On the Streaming Songs chart, "Shake" dips 2-4 with a 52 percent fall to 8.8 million U.S. streams in its second week, according to Nielsen BDS. (With the song not available on on-demand audio subscription services, almost all its streaming points are again via Vevo on YouTube clicks for its official video, which dropped Aug. 18.)

"Shake" is on the rise at radio, however, zooming 9-7 with a 24 percent increase to 88 million in all-format audience, according to BDS. On the Pop Songs radio airplay chart, the track leaps 12-8 in its second week, tying eight other songs for the quickest ascent to the top 10 (since the list launched in 1992). It's just the third song in nearly 10 years to reach the top bracket in as few as two frames: in 2011, Britney Spears' "Hold It Against Me" and Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" also needed just two weeks each to reach the Pop Songs top 10.

Meghan Trainor On 'All About That Bass': 'I Wish There Was a Song Like This When I Was 13'

Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" returns to its No. 2 Hot 100 highpoint (3-2) with top Airplay Gainer honors for a third consecutive week (and a 3 percent gain in overall points). It's the first debut hit by a female artist to link three straight weeks winning the award since Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe" in 2012. "Bass" reaches the Radio Songs top 10 (11-9; up 28 percent to 82 million); holds at No. 2 on Digital Songs (which it led for two weeks) with a 6 percent decline to 266,000; and rebounds 3-2 on Streaming Songs (which it topped for a week), up by 6 percent to 12.2 million. It dips 1-2 after a week atop the subscription services-based On-Demand Songs chart, but with a 10 percent gain to 3.6 million.

"Bass" swaps spots on the Hot 100 with Nicki Minaj's "Anaconda," which drops 2-3 after vaulting from No. 39 to No. 2 last week. The song spends a second week atop Streaming Songs but decreases by 46 percent to 17.3 million. (Last week, it rocketed 42-1 on Streaming Songs with a 1,287 percent gain to 32.1 million following the Aug. 19 premiere of its steamy video; 81 percent of its streaming points stem from Vevo on YouTube, down from 95 percent last week.)

"Anaconda" rises 6-4 on Digital Songs with a 57 percent jump to 188,000. Like Swift, Minaj performed her new hit as part of the VMAs' show-opening medley (read on for details). The cut also builds in airplay, slithering onto Radio Songs at No. 40 with 31 million in audience (up 26 percent). It snares a second week at No. 1 on both Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Rap Songs.
Minaj, meanwhile, lands a second concurrent hit in the Hot 100's top five for the first time, as "Bang Bang," billed as by Jessie J, new Billboard 200 leader Ariana Grande and Minaj, roars 9-4. The collab claims the top Digital and Streaming Gainer awards after the three divas performed it, mixed with "Anaconda," to open the VMAs, while its video premiered the following day (Aug. 25). "Bang" blasts by 54 percent to 244,000 sold, holding at No. 3 on Digital Songs, and flies 12-3 on Streaming Songs (up by 104 percent to 11 million). It charges 5-1 on On-Demand Songs with a 53 percent vault to 3.8 million.

"Bang" also grows in airplay, bounding 24-19 on Radio Songs (53 million, up 8 percent).

Rounding out the Hot 100's top five, Sam Smith's "Stay With Me" retreats 4-5 (after climbing to a No. 2 peak). It posts a fourth week at No. 1 on Radio Songs (152 million, down 7 percent).

Iggy Azalea's 'Fancy' Is Billboard's Song of the Summer

Iggy Azalea's "Black Widow," featuring Rita Ora, holds at its No. 6 Hot 100 peak to date; Grande's "Break Free," featuring Zedd, stays at No. 7 and leads Hot Dance/Electronic Songs for a third week; MAGIC!'s former six-week No. 1 "Rude" falls 5-8; Sia's "Chandelier" dims from its No. 8 high to No. 9; and Charli XCX's "Boom Clap" returns to the top 10 (12-10, matching its best rank). As previously reported, "Boom Clap" crowns the Pop Songs chart with a 2-1 climb.

Visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Sept. 4), when all rankings, including the Hot 100 in its entirety and Digital Songs, Radio Songs and Streaming Songs, will refresh, as they do each Thursday. The latest charts will also appear in the next issue of Billboard magazine (on sale on Friday, Sept. 5).

www.billboard.com/articles/news/6236690/taylor-swifts-shake-it-off-holds-at-no-1-on-hot-100

[wavey.]

Yesssssss get another Top 5 hit!!

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Sept 3, 2014 13:34:28 GMT -5 wavey. said:

I wish I knew how all this s**t is calculated cause I want to make actual predictions lol.

sales/12 + streams/(500 to 600) + airplay audience/(8000 to 9000) (and BDS AI is usually about three-quarters to four-fifths of that of Mediabase)

[when the pawn...]

How often has something gone to #1 mainly off of video streams? I know Harlem Shake was a ridiculous situation but what since then? I don't really get the "Wrecking Ball" scenario since that was a huge song across all platforms. I know that the chat-roulette guy COULD have used "Royals" or "Roar" or whatever else but he didn't...and to be honest, I do not think that video would have been as charming or as popular with a different song - "Wrecking Ball" was massive in terms of streaming/airplay/sales statistics and, perhaps more importantly in this case, in terms of pop cultural impact. And she may have been naked in the music video but a lot of really basic/generic/derivative songs do very well on radio airplay - is it that big of a deal?

"Anaconda" is #4 in digital sales this week, why are there complaints that it is ranking ONE SPOT higher on the Hot 100? Whether people are liking or disliking the video, it got huge attention/hype/etc. and during last week, was among the most talked-about and popular songs in the country.

Since video streaming became included on the Hot 100, we've seen Can't Hold Us, Blurred Lines, Roar, Wrecking Ball, Royals, The Monster, Dark Horse, Happy, All of Me, Fancy and Rude have huge runs on the Hot 100 - all of those songs were huge across digital sales and radio airplay, unless I'm mistaken. I'm confused as why their formula needs to be re-evaluated. Heck, I still think it's crazy that "One More Night" was #1 for 9 weeks and "Gangnam Style" was held back at #2.

[Enigma.]

People are always saying streaming should be re-evaluated when a song they dislike is doing amazingly well in streaming.

The game is fair to everyone. Have a hit and it will be watched and streamed and it charts well.

[wavey.]

Sept 3, 2014 13:54:56 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Sept 3, 2014 13:34:28 GMT -5 wavey. said:

I wish I knew how all this s**t is calculated cause I want to make actual predictions lol.

sales/12 + streams/(500 to 600) + airplay audience/(8000 to 9000) (and BDS AI is usually about three-quarters to four-fifths of that of Mediabase)

Jesus.

[Zeebz]

I'm liking the female domination in the top ten recently. "Bang Bang"'s gain is great, and I hope that "Boom Clap" can stay in the top ten for a while.