Billboard Hot 100 : 10/25/2014

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Not surprising Meghan's song has sold more overall, has it not been available longer?

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Oct 15, 2014 18:35:25 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Not surprising Meghan's song has sold more overall, has it not been available longer?

Yes but it sold almost twice as much in its first week as AATB did in its highest-selling week and up until 3 or 4 weeks before SIO debuted AATB's sales were negligible I think. So I guess AATB just barely made up that difference. 

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Oct 15, 2014 18:48:05 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Oct 15, 2014 18:35:25 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Not surprising Meghan's song has sold more overall, has it not been available longer?

Yes but it sold almost twice as much in its first week as AATB did in its highest-selling week and up until 3 or 4 weeks before SIO debuted AATB's sales were negligible I think. So I guess AATB just barely made up that difference. 

A month of time is a good chunk of sales for a "song of the moment".

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Oct 15, 2014 18:54:57 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Oct 15, 2014 18:48:05 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Yes but it sold almost twice as much in its first week as AATB did in its highest-selling week and up until 3 or 4 weeks before SIO debuted AATB's sales were negligible I think. So I guess AATB just barely made up that difference. 

A month of time is a good chunk of sales for a "song of the moment".

Well it feels to me like the huge lead that SIO had over AATB the week that SIO debuted could make up for the few hundred thousand sales that AATB got in the few weeks before SIO debuted. And of course after that first week for SIO the two songs were about even in sales. 

[popstop]

Oct 15, 2014 17:54:03 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I'm guessing some of the other songs (based on what the article mentioned) that made top ten on the Hot 100 without making the Mainstream Top 40 chart were Gentleman and The Fox? Interesting, five such songs in just two years (including the ones mentioned in the article)...oh and why were they considered "non-rap" I mean if Gentleman was on the Rap Songs chart then obviously Billboard does consider it to be rap so by default they should include it.

Soko "We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" is one of them I bet.

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Oct 15, 2014 19:14:22 GMT -5 popstop said:

Oct 15, 2014 17:54:03 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I'm guessing some of the other songs (based on what the article mentioned) that made top ten on the Hot 100 without making the Mainstream Top 40 chart were Gentleman and The Fox? Interesting, five such songs in just two years (including the ones mentioned in the article)...oh and why were they considered "non-rap" I mean if Gentleman was on the Rap Songs chart then obviously Billboard does consider it to be rap so by default they should include it.

Soko "We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" is one of them I bet.

Ah, good catch! I forgot about that one! I guess it goes to show how insignificant that song really was considering that I had remembered other, hmm, "instant grat" songs, so to speak that were out long before WMBDBT but not WMBDBT. Still think that was the most undeserved top ten of the year, if not of the decade or even century (though I don't know too many top 10s before 2005 or 2006). I mean I could understand if it was for the official video but I think majority people that watched that first kiss video weren't/barely were even aware the song was playing.

[RainMan94]

Oct 15, 2014 17:54:03 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I'm guessing some of the other songs (based on what the article mentioned) that made top ten on the Hot 100 without making the Mainstream Top 40 chart were Gentleman and The Fox? Interesting, five such songs in just two years (including the ones mentioned in the article)...oh and why were they considered "non-rap" I mean if Gentleman was on the Rap Songs chart then obviously Billboard does consider it to be rap so by default they should include it.

I re-read the article because I thought the same thing. The article says first "rap" song since "Rap God" to hit the top 10 without hitting the pop chart.

[Joe1240]

"Shake It Off" has a great chance to be number #1 the next few weeks. Lead Singles always sell a lot during release week. Look at "Maps" by M5 back a few months ago. "Break Free" out of the top 10,Not surprised at all,The single has been out since july and the song is finished on radio.

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Oct 15, 2014 19:32:19 GMT -5 RainMan94 said:

Oct 15, 2014 17:54:03 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I'm guessing some of the other songs (based on what the article mentioned) that made top ten on the Hot 100 without making the Mainstream Top 40 chart were Gentleman and The Fox? Interesting, five such songs in just two years (including the ones mentioned in the article)...oh and why were they considered "non-rap" I mean if Gentleman was on the Rap Songs chart then obviously Billboard does consider it to be rap so by default they should include it.

I re-read the article because I thought the same thing. The article says first "rap" song since "Rap God" to hit the top 10 without hitting the pop chart.

The three non-rap songs Billboard is talking about are Let It Go, We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow, and Dope.

[Joey]

CS is now out of Hot 100. Imagine how long it'll rule in the recurrents.

[Daniel Collins]

"This Is How We Do" fell below "Dark Horse" (which rose 46-43 )

[Joey]

And "All of Me" rose (27-24) as well.

[Deleted]

counting stars :'(

[Deleted]

Rather Be still not #1 on Dance/Electronic Songs :( so close yet so far...

[Clauss]

How many weeks had CS?

[crystalphnx]

Oct 16, 2014 9:03:09 GMT -5 Clauss said:

How many weeks had CS?

68

50 47 47 68 Counting Stars, OneRepublic 2 [its final chart appearance from last week]

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Oct 16, 2014 5:55:23 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

"This Is How We Do" fell below "Dark Horse" (which rose 46-43 )

56 weeks is waaaaay too long for that song IMO. I think 40 was enough, after passing HnC and Firework for the longest run for a Katy Perry song. It honestly hasn't even felt relevant at all in the last couple months. Is it still top 50 on Spotify? I want AOM to be the longest chart sitter (and hopefully it can get almost as many weeks as CS, it is a song with good longevity too)

[kanimal]

Oct 16, 2014 9:22:34 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Oct 16, 2014 5:55:23 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

"This Is How We Do" fell below "Dark Horse" (which rose 46-43 )

56 weeks is waaaaay too long for that song IMO. I think 40 was enough, after passing HnC and Firework for the longest run for a Katy Perry song. It honestly hasn't even felt relevant at all in the last couple months. Is it still top 50 on Spotify? I want AOM to be the longest chart sitter (and hopefully it can get almost as many weeks as CS, it is a song with good longevity too)

Don't really agree with this.  I still feel like I hear it on the radio quite a bit, and it's still fairly common background music at bars/restaurants.

[Linnethia Monique]

Oct 16, 2014 9:33:17 GMT -5 kanimal said:

Oct 16, 2014 9:22:34 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

56 weeks is waaaaay too long for that song IMO. I think 40 was enough, after passing HnC and Firework for the longest run for a Katy Perry song. It honestly hasn't even felt relevant at all in the last couple months. Is it still top 50 on Spotify? I want AOM to be the longest chart sitter (and hopefully it can get almost as many weeks as CS, it is a song with good longevity too)

Don't really agree with this.  I still feel like I hear it on the radio quite a bit, and it's still fairly common background music at bars/restaurants.

I agree. I feel the complete opposite and hear it too much for my liking. I've hear Unconditionally once on a Hot AC station and Roar still gets regular spins, but Dark Horse gets played like it's the only Katy Perry song in existence right now. Both on Pop Stations with Juicy J and on Hot AC without Juicy J.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Oct 16, 2014 9:22:34 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Oct 16, 2014 5:55:23 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

"This Is How We Do" fell below "Dark Horse" (which rose 46-43 )

56 weeks is waaaaay too long for that song IMO. I think 40 was enough, after passing HnC and Firework for the longest run for a Katy Perry song. It honestly hasn't even felt relevant at all in the last couple months. Is it still top 50 on Spotify? I want AOM to be the longest chart sitter (and hopefully it can get almost as many weeks as CS, it is a song with good longevity too)

Remember 10+ weeks of chart run includes time as promo single. It's "real" chart run didn't begin until December(?), so those total weeks are a bit misleading.

[Deleted]

I guess they play it a lot more in the US than they do here then lol. Over here I haven't heard it in months (and I listen to radio/go out to restaurants and stuff quite a bit). I don't get why so many people haven't gotten over it yet. Honestly I hear Counting Stars a lot more than I hear Dark Horse right now so CS definitely feels bigger to me. Well DH will likely be out of the Hot 100 within 2-3 weeks unless some other viral video for it will be out. It's barely top 40 on streaming, below top 40 in airplay and not even in top 100 in sales I think. Don't really get how it has enough points to still be in the top 50.

[josh]

Oct 16, 2014 10:12:26 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I guess they play it a lot more in the US than they do here then lol. Over here I haven't heard it in months (and I listen to radio/go out to restaurants and stuff quite a bit). I don't get why so many people haven't gotten over it yet. Honestly I hear Counting Stars a lot more than I hear Dark Horse right now so CS definitely feels bigger to me. Well DH will likely be out of the Hot 100 within 2-3 weeks unless some other viral video for it will be out. It's barely top 40 on streaming, below top 40 in airplay and not even in top 100 in sales I think. Don't really get how it has enough points to still be in the top 50.

Birthday and TIHWD both made top 10 in Canada, so they clearly did better there than here, which likely pushed DH down more on radio than it has been here. I'd rather have DH have a little better longevity than those 2 songs top 10.

[rimetm]

Centuries (#42 Hot 100)
n/a Radio
#17 Sales
n/a Streaming

Dark Horse (#43 Hot 100)
#42 Radio
#36 Sales
#37 Streaming

Neon Light (#44 Hot 100)
#25 Radio
#29 Sales
n/a Streaming

Radio presence isn't everything, because otherwise Neon Light would be over it. Looks like sales are most important and a well-rounded placing on all 3 components keeps it going strong. It is fading on sales now that This is How We Do is going away, however, so it should be gone as well in about 2 weeks time, not to mention the lack of bullet this week.

[josh]

Oct 16, 2014 14:50:08 GMT -5 rimetm said:

Centuries (#42 Hot 100)
n/a Radio
#17 Sales
n/a Streaming

Dark Horse (#43 Hot 100)
#42 Radio
#36 Sales
#37 Streaming

Neon Light (#44 Hot 100)
#25 Radio
#29 Sales
n/a Streaming

Radio presence isn't everything, because otherwise Neon Light would be over it. Looks like sales are most important and a well-rounded placing on all 3 components keeps it going strong. It is fading on sales now that This is How We Do is going away, however, so it should be gone as well in about 2 weeks time, not to mention the lack of bullet this week.

Dark Horse is not top 50 in sales.

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2 1 14 All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor - Epic
3 5 7 Animals - Maroon 5 - 222/Interscope | IGA
4 8 17 Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo - Island
5 6 11 Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj - Lava | Republic
6 10 16 Trumpets - Jason Derulo - Beluga Heights | Warner Bros.
7 New 1 Sippin' On Fire - Florida Georgia Line - Republic Nashville | BMLG
8 7 14 Black Widow - Iggy Azalea Featuring Rita Ora - Turn First/Hustle Gang | Def Jam
9 17 3 Jealous - Nick Jonas - Safehouse | Island
10 11 13 Don't Tell 'Em - Jeremih Featuring YG - Mick Schultz | Def Jam
11 16 11 Don't - Ed Sheeran - Atlantic | AG
12 12 10 Anaconda - Nicki Minaj - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
13 48 3 I'm Not The Only One - Sam Smith - Capitol
14 19 9 Fireball - Pitbull Featuring John Ryan - Mr. 305/Polo Grounds | RCA
15 13 15 Rather Be - Clean Bandit Featuring Jess Glynne - Atlantic | AG
16 18 13 Cool Kids - Echosmith - Warner Bros.
17 26 5 Centuries - Fall Out Boy - DCD2 | Island
18 21 27 Stay With Me - Sam Smith - Capitol
19 4 2 Something In The Water - Carrie Underwood - 19/Arista Nashville | SMN
20 25 6 Hot Boy - Bobby Shmurda - GS9 | Epic
21 3 2 Steal My Girl - One Direction - SYCO | Columbia
22 28 5 Waves - Mr. Probz - Left Lane/Ultra | RCA
23 Re-Entry 2 Try - Colbie Caillat - Republic
24 23 14 Dirt - Florida Georgia Line - Republic Nashville | BMLG
25 20 22 Chandelier - Sia - Monkey Puzzle | RCA
26 24 15 Break Free - Ariana Grande Featuring Zedd - Republic
27 27 11 Amnesia - 5 Seconds Of Summer - Hey Or Hi | Capitol
28 22 17 Maps - Maroon 5 - 222/Interscope | IGA
29 45 7 Neon Light - Blake Shelton - Warner Bros. Nashville | WMN
30 New 1 EW! - Jimmy Fallon Featuring will.i.am - will.i.am/Interscope | IGA
31 35 5 Blame - Calvin Harris Featuring John Newman - deConstruction/Fly Eye/Ultra/Roc Nation | Columbia
32 29 16 Bailando - Enrique Iglesias Featuring Descemer Bueno & Gente de Zona - Republic
33 37 5 Stolen Dance - Milky Chance - Lichtdicht/Neon | Republic
34 36 2 Tuesday - I LOVE MAKONNEN Featuring Drake - OVO Sound | Warner Bros.
35 32 19 Boom Clap - Charli XCX - Neon Gold/Fox/Atlantic | AG
36 New 1 The Days - Avicii - PRMD | Island
37 38 17 A Sky Full Of Stars - Coldplay - Parlophone/Atlantic | AG
38 39 14 Leave The Night On - Sam Hunt - MCA Nashville | UMGN
39 44 3 I Don't F**k With You - Big Sean Featuring E-40 - G.O.O.D. | Def Jam
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43 Re-Entry 5 Riptide - Vance Joy - F-Stop/Atlantic | AG
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46 Re-Entry 43 All Of Me - John Legend - G.O.O.D. | Columbia
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48 43 40 Happy - Pharrell Williams - Back Lot | Columbia
49 Re-Entry 40 Turn Down For What - DJ Snake & Lil Jon - Columbia
50 49 6 New Flame - Chris Brown Featuring Usher & Rick Ross - RCA

It is also #36, not #37 on streaming. Was #37 last week, but was not top 50 in sales last week, either.

[RadioBeatz]

"Dark Horse" outpaced both "Birthday" and "This Is How We Do" lmao, such a MEGAhit.

[Enigma.]

Hopefully her team will wait with possible 6th single for a while, otherwise DH will outlast that one too

[Zeebz]

Hopefully "Habits" or "Don't Tell 'Em" can end the Taylor/Meghan domination at the top. Especially "Habits".

[Mr. Thonk Eyes]

Oct 17, 2014 10:32:18 GMT -5 Zeebz said:

Hopefully "Habits" or "Don't Tell 'Em" can end the Taylor/Meghan domination at the top. Especially "Habits".

Doubt DT'E has a chance. Habits is a strong candidate and I hope it goes to #1

[Zeebz]

Oct 17, 2014 10:36:01 GMT -5 Mr. Thonk Eyes said:

Oct 17, 2014 10:32:18 GMT -5 Zeebz said:

Hopefully "Habits" or "Don't Tell 'Em" can end the Taylor/Meghan domination at the top. Especially "Habits".

Doubt DT'E has a chance. Habits is a strong candidate and I hope it goes to #1

Well, maybe with a video, as Wave noted. Regardless, I think I would be content with anything. Long running number ones aren't really exciting.

[jenglisbe]

Oct 15, 2014 8:57:52 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

And so it began, the reign of Smooth

If "Heartbreaker" hadn't been a limited single, it may have had another week or two at #1. The week "Smooth" took over #1, it was mentioned that it was a very tight race.