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Post by maine on Oct 24, 2014 14:26:44 GMT -5
Lead single to Imagine Dragons' second studio album will be released to Pop radio on Monday, and iTunes to Tuesday. Going to make a thread here also since it is more than likely going to be pushed here also.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 24, 2014 14:30:28 GMT -5
Does the fact that this already has Pop add date but not Alt add dates suggest they may be going the soft route?
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Post by maine on Oct 24, 2014 14:32:16 GMT -5
Does the fact that this already has Pop add date but not Alt add dates suggest they may be going the soft route? It was put under Play IGA (Interscope's promo site) for Pop. It's probably not under their Alt one since they seem to not update that one that much. My guess is it will be there later today. By the look of the lyrics and artwork, my guess is that it's a haunting/dark track.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 24, 2014 14:36:34 GMT -5
Does the fact that this already has Pop add date but not Alt add dates suggest they may be going the soft route? It was put under Play IGA (Interscope's promo site) for Pop. It's probably not under their Alt one since they seem to not update that one that much. My guess is it will be there later today. By the look of the lyrics and artwork, my guess is that it's a haunting/dark track. The lyrics are released?
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Post by Web on Oct 24, 2014 14:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by maine on Oct 24, 2014 18:10:14 GMT -5
It was put under Play IGA (Interscope's promo site) for Pop. It's probably not under their Alt one since they seem to not update that one that much. My guess is it will be there later today. By the look of the lyrics and artwork, my guess is that it's a haunting/dark track. The lyrics are released? Check the thread in the Pop forum. All of the ones they showed are under the spoiler.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 24, 2014 18:48:57 GMT -5
Goes for Alt/AAA adds November 3 and 4, according to PlayIGA. (They also removed it from pop.)
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Post by Cody on Oct 24, 2014 20:56:30 GMT -5
This came up from out of nowhere. "Night Visions" was a thing of beauty, so I have extremely high expectations for this.
Potentially sucks for the Foo Fighters though, this is one of the few releases capable of cutting their #1 stay short, with I think only Fun., Muse, and RHCP being the only other bands out there aside from Imagine Dragons who could put up an immediate fight against "Something From Nothing" on alternative.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 24, 2014 22:35:24 GMT -5
This came up from out of nowhere. "Night Visions" was a thing of beauty, so I have extremely high expectations for this. Potentially sucks for the Foo Fighters though, this is one of the few releases capable of cutting their #1 stay short, with I think only Fun., Muse, and RHCP being the only other bands out there aside from Imagine Dragons who could put up an immediate fight against "Something From Nothing" on alternative. I think the Foo Fighters could easily hold off Fun. I don't think they're that big on Alternative, nor ever will be again, especially if their next lead single is really poppy. Muse and RHCP I agree with. Anyway, I'm curious to see how this will sound, although I think this could potentially get stonewalled at #2. The Foo Fighters' return was highly anticipated, and "Radioactive" and "Demons" did get kinda overplayed at the end. But damn it, a small part of me thinks that the band/their label intentionally did this to challenge the Foos.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 24, 2014 23:15:05 GMT -5
Potentially sucks for the Foo Fighters though, this is one of the few releases capable of cutting their #1 stay short, with I think only Fun., Muse, and RHCP being the only other bands out there aside from Imagine Dragons who could put up an immediate fight against "Something From Nothing" on alternative. I met be willing to add Tool to that list just because it's been so long for them, and the hype would be crazy. But it would have to be a softer, "Sober" type of song.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 24, 2014 23:20:27 GMT -5
Potentially sucks for the Foo Fighters though, this is one of the few releases capable of cutting their #1 stay short, with I think only Fun., Muse, and RHCP being the only other bands out there aside from Imagine Dragons who could put up an immediate fight against "Something From Nothing" on alternative. I met be willing to add Tool to that list just because it's been so long for them, and the hype would be crazy. But it would have to be a softer, "Sober" type of song. We saw how badly A Perfect Circle flopped, so I don't know.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 25, 2014 0:42:51 GMT -5
I met be willing to add Tool to that list just because it's been so long for them, and the hype would be crazy. But it would have to be a softer, "Sober" type of song. We saw how badly A Perfect Circle flopped, so I don't know. Yeah but they're really just a Tool knockoff. If were saying just give the Foo's competition, I think they definitely could do that. I know it was 2006, and times were different, but Vicarious was a really heavy song and was huge. Add in years of anticipation? I could see it.
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Post by Superundercover on Oct 25, 2014 2:57:01 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear it!
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Post by Cody on Oct 25, 2014 5:59:08 GMT -5
Tool could go top 10 a la Nine Inch Nails, but there is no way they muster up 2800 spins for the top spot. That station in Florida will never play Tool 120 times a week.
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Post by Pipa on Oct 25, 2014 9:45:45 GMT -5
Tool could go top 10 a la Nine Inch Nails, but there is no way they muster up 2800 spins for the top spot. That station in Florida will never play Tool 120 times a week. Especially if it's 10 minutes long. That's nearly a full day a week spent playing it.
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Post by Cody on Oct 25, 2014 11:14:39 GMT -5
Anyways, this is Imagine Dragons' thread, no need to insult them by talking about Tool. ^ That's right, I went there
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 25, 2014 11:40:10 GMT -5
Anyways, this is Imagine Dragons' thread, no need to insult them by talking about Tool. ^ That's right, I went there My mind exploded. I mean, you can't even compare my favorite band of all time to some puny little indie pop band... I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this s**t, blood and cum on my hands.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 12:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by Cody on Oct 25, 2014 13:14:06 GMT -5
Anyways, this is Imagine Dragons' thread, no need to insult them by talking about Tool. ^ That's right, I went there My mind exploded. I mean, you can't even compare my favorite band of all time to some puny little indie pop band... I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this s**t, blood and cum on my hands. lol, this is the kind of response I was fishing for.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 25, 2014 13:33:31 GMT -5
My mind exploded. I mean, you can't even compare my favorite band of all time to some puny little indie pop band... I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this s**t, blood and cum on my hands. lol, this is the kind of response I was fishing for. I was poking fun at your " over sensitive" comments And also I wanted to put the Prison Sex line
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Post by Lordef†ones on Oct 25, 2014 18:56:19 GMT -5
I don't think Imagine Dragons or Fun could hold off Foo Fighters. I can see Lorde and Imagine Dragons fighting over #2 though. Lorde's track is pretty soon from Pure Heroine and is a soundtrack single so that might give Imagine Dragons the edge. But this is Foos we're talking about. If Tool came out of nowhere and released the single we've all been waiting for, then yeah I could see them taking Foo on, but otherwise, the Fighters are there to stay.
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Post by Cody on Oct 25, 2014 23:58:45 GMT -5
I don't think Imagine Dragons or Fun could hold off Foo Fighters. I can see Lorde and Imagine Dragons fighting over #2 though. Lorde's track is pretty soon from Pure Heroine and is a soundtrack single so that might give Imagine Dragons the edge. But this is Foos we're talking about. If Tool came out of nowhere and released the single we've all been waiting for, then yeah I could see them taking Foo on, but otherwise, the Fighters are there to stay. lol, I fully understand and respect that alot of you guys really like Tool, but you can't honestly believe they would get anywhere near the top in this alternative climate. Much more successful rock bands on the format have failed miserably. Seether, TDG, and Chevelle to name a few...and NIN (who have always been much bigger on alt than Tool) only managed #7 after somewhat of a lengthy layoff that caused for similar anticipation to this new Tool lead single. Besides, it's active you should all care about for Tool, that's their core format. I'm sure they'll get to #1 for a few weeks there.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 26, 2014 0:12:37 GMT -5
I don't think Imagine Dragons or Fun could hold off Foo Fighters. I can see Lorde and Imagine Dragons fighting over #2 though. Lorde's track is pretty soon from Pure Heroine and is a soundtrack single so that might give Imagine Dragons the edge. But this is Foos we're talking about. If Tool came out of nowhere and released the single we've all been waiting for, then yeah I could see them taking Foo on, but otherwise, the Fighters are there to stay. lol, I fully understand and respect that alot of you guys really like Tool, but you can't honestly believe they would get anywhere near the top in this alternative climate. Much more successful rock bands on the format have failed miserably. Seether, TDG, and Chevelle to name a few...and NIN (who have always been much bigger on alt than Tool) only managed #7 after somewhat of a lengthy layoff that caused for similar anticipation to this new Tool lead single. Besides, it's active you should all care about for Tool, that's their core format. I'm sure they'll get to #1 for a few weeks there. Yeah, but how many of those bands took a 8 year lay off? Tool is one of the weird bands that is somehow just as Alt as they are Active, despite sounding overly Active. If new Tool dropped tomorrow, I think everyone would be rushing to play it. Don't forget, their last album sold over 500,000 copies in the first week. Grant it, today that would translate to about 150-200k, but those are still huge numbers. And I remember hearing Vicarious all the freaking time on my local Alt station back in the day, despite it being a 7 minute song.
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Post by Cody on Oct 26, 2014 0:30:39 GMT -5
lol, I fully understand and respect that alot of you guys really like Tool, but you can't honestly believe they would get anywhere near the top in this alternative climate. Much more successful rock bands on the format have failed miserably. Seether, TDG, and Chevelle to name a few...and NIN (who have always been much bigger on alt than Tool) only managed #7 after somewhat of a lengthy layoff that caused for similar anticipation to this new Tool lead single. Besides, it's active you should all care about for Tool, that's their core format. I'm sure they'll get to #1 for a few weeks there. Yeah, but how many of those bands took a 8 year lay off? Tool is one of the weird bands that is somehow just as Alt as they are Active, despite sounding overly Active. If new Tool dropped tomorrow, I think everyone would be rushing to play it. Don't forget, their last album sold over 500,000 copies in the first week. Grant it, today that would translate to about 150-200k, but those are still huge numbers. And I remember hearing Vicarious all the freaking time on my local Alt station back in the day, despite it being a 7 minute song. Yeah, I agree that it makes perfect sense for alternative to play Tool just as it always made sense to play Chevelle...there's a certain uniqueness to the sound that makes it very "alternative" to the traditional or "mainstream" definition of rock music. With that being said, the absolute biggest factor is the climate. Remember, in a much friendlier climate to heavier & active-leaning songs, "Vicarious" debuted at #2 then lost a bunch of spins the next week and couldn't recover. The majority of the core of big Tool fans aren't diehard indie fans who listen to alternative radio either, so I don't think the audience numbers would be strong enough to warrant 2300+ spins for a really high position. The 8-year layoff could help, but ultimately I think they would struggle to get anymore than the 1400 spins Rise Against mustered up in this panel. I would say #1 on active and maybe #9-10 on alternative with a bit of luck. 6-7 minute songs aren't going to cut it either, they'd need a proper radio edit for alternative success today. Even "Stolen Dance" and "Dangerous" were significantly cut down, and those 2 songs fit the climate perfectly.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 26, 2014 0:53:46 GMT -5
Yeah, but how many of those bands took a 8 year lay off? Tool is one of the weird bands that is somehow just as Alt as they are Active, despite sounding overly Active. If new Tool dropped tomorrow, I think everyone would be rushing to play it. Don't forget, their last album sold over 500,000 copies in the first week. Grant it, today that would translate to about 150-200k, but those are still huge numbers. And I remember hearing Vicarious all the freaking time on my local Alt station back in the day, despite it being a 7 minute song. Yeah, I agree that it makes perfect sense for alternative to play Tool just as it always made sense to play Chevelle...there's a certain uniqueness to the sound that makes it very "alternative" to the traditional or "mainstream" definition of rock music. With that being said, the absolute biggest factor is the climate. Remember, in a much friendlier climate to heavier & active-leaning songs, "Vicarious" debuted at #2 then lost a bunch of spins the next week and couldn't recover. The majority of the core of big Tool fans aren't diehard indie fans who listen to alternative radio either, so I don't think the audience numbers would be strong enough to warrant 2300+ spins for a really high position. The 8-year layoff could help, but ultimately I think they would struggle to get anymore than the 1400 spins Rise Against mustered up in this panel. I would say #1 on active and maybe #9-10 on alternative with a bit of luck. 6-7 minute songs aren't going to cut it either, they'd need a proper radio edit for alternative success today. Even "Stolen Dance" and "Dangerous" were significantly cut down, and those 2 songs fit the climate perfectly. I have to agree with dm2081 that I also think Tool will get significant Alternative play when they do come out with new music. I think a lot of Tool fans listened to Alternative radio back when 10000 Days was released, and they have been in wait for new Tool probably this whole time. I'd guess (hopefully) that when a new song does surface, they'll turn on the radio in hopes of hearing it. Also, I remember how excited the DJ on my Alternative radio station was when "Vicarious" was released, and can only wonder if the other Alternative DJ's were as receptive. But I also agree that it'd be hard for them to get into the Top 5, even though I really hope that will somehow happen. The best scenario I could hope for is a peak of at least Top 10 (hopefully higher) with longevity. Why must I lower my expectations in this climate? Also, we aren't getting any new music this year obviously, so it'll be at least a 9 year wait. Perhaps by then the climate will have changed even a little to be more favorable to artists like Tool.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 26, 2014 7:24:23 GMT -5
I only like Imagine Dragons folky sounding stuff. "It's Time" and "On Top of The World". I never likes "Radioactive". I don't see what's so great about this band?
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Post by K. on Oct 26, 2014 7:29:13 GMT -5
Cool cover.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 26, 2014 22:46:59 GMT -5
Song's out.
The verses are kinda boring, and that chorus is annoyingly awful. Very disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 23:39:49 GMT -5
Song's out. The verses are kinda boring, and that chorus is annoyingly awful. Very disappointing. link?
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 27, 2014 0:38:39 GMT -5
Here it is:
Man, that wasn't unlistenable/bad or anything, but compared to the singles off Night Visions, that was underwhelming. It has a more "On Top of the World" vibe, which is what I was hoping they wouldn't go for. A bit disappointed to be honest.
I'd be ok if they ended up just sending this to pop and something else to Alternative/Rock. I can't see this doing extremely well on the latter (two) format(s).
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