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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 15, 2015 21:09:14 GMT -5
Mariah's greatest song of all time, I'LL BE LOVIN U LONG TIME, was a beautiful and critically praised song with accompanied by one of the best vanity videos of all time. But, really suffered from the weak reception of bibi. Do you think the era would have taken a different turn if it was the second single instead of byebye? best use of STAY WITH ME sample of all time.sound off below. don't want another ain't gon never be another can't nobody do what you do to me
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:13:53 GMT -5
Migrate should have been the second single followed by Side Effects. Those 2 songs could have been top 10 hits for her and then I'll Be Lovin U Long Time could have had a chance at being a top 20 hit.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 15, 2015 21:16:43 GMT -5
Migrate should have been the second single followed by Side Effects. Those 2 songs could have been top 10 hits for her and then I'll Be Lovin U Long Time could have had a chance at being a top 20 hit. soo, is that a yes or a no? : P
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:17:56 GMT -5
Migrate should have been the second single followed by Side Effects. Those 2 songs could have been top 10 hits for her and then I'll Be Lovin U Long Time could have had a chance at being a top 20 hit. soo, is that a yes or a no? : P I'll say that it would've done as well as Bye Bye so no.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Mar 15, 2015 21:20:31 GMT -5
I think "Migrate" should have been second and this third. I do think this would have done better than "Blah Blah" if it were second though, so I'll say yes simply for that fact.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:40:19 GMT -5
No. Migrate should have been the 2nd single. Followed by FTR. Then they could have sent IBLULT or Side Effects to Urban. They wouldn't have done anything on pop.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 15, 2015 22:00:36 GMT -5
I think it would have done better than Bye Bye, but I never heard this huge perfect hit with it. I think Side Effects, Migrate, and For the Record should have been singles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 22:31:58 GMT -5
I think after the hype of her 18# hit the only thing that could have killed momentum was to release the almost weak ballads on the that album. Side Effects, Migrate (overrated) and I"ll Be Lovin' U Long Time all would have benefited and helped the album. Considering E=MC2 crossed over 1M sold stateside I'm content with that era. BYE BYE should have if released been the last single that ended the album era.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 15, 2015 22:39:31 GMT -5
everyone hates byebye. fuck you byebye
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Post by leoapp on Mar 15, 2015 22:43:23 GMT -5
No, i don't think so. The 2nd single should've been Migrate, cos she needed a club banger. (Touch My Body was too slow. Migrate would be an easy 19th #1 hit for sure, and then followed by Side Effects or For The Record, both songs could be her 20th #1 hit. The 4t single: IBLULT with T.I. would be perfect, it could be a top 10 hit, when T.I. was hot with Whatever You Like and Live Your Live.
:( What a mess era
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 22:51:02 GMT -5
Girl, anything would have done better than Bye Bye. Well, except for I Wish You Well. I just don't know why she or IDJ would ignore all of the summery midtempos for Bye Bye. So absurd. IBLULT was made for the summer, so the timing of second single would have been perfect for it. I think any comgination/order of IBLULT, Migrate, Side Effects, and Cruise Control would have been just right..
Oh, and lambs hate on JD but he really did a good job on what is otherwise my least or second-least favorite Mimi album, actually (Cruise Control > Migrate and Side Effects IMO, not to deny the single-worthiness of the latter two though). It's kind of shocking that he didn't get any singles from it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 6:42:58 GMT -5
Migrate, For the Record, Cruise Control in that order should have been the next 3 singles
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 16, 2015 13:53:49 GMT -5
Yes. It would have been at least a top 10 record, seeing as "Bye Bye" managed to peak in the top 20.
This album was fun and happy, they got it completely wrong by thinking a ballad was going to represent it well in the early stages of its run. The ballad should've been the 4th single and it should've been "LOve Story" even though I love "I Stay In Love" and the video was cute.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 16, 2015 14:07:20 GMT -5
Yes. It would have been at least a top 10 record, seeing as "Bye Bye" managed to peak in the top 20. This album was fun and happy, they got it completely wrong by thinking a ballad was going to represent it well in the early stages of its run. The ballad should've been the 4th single and it should've been "LOve Story" even though I love "I Stay In Love" and the video was cute. i just really wonder WTH they were thinking with BYEBYE...has mariah ever talked about it? Was she going for a One Sweet Day type of success? It just makes zero sense...
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Mar 16, 2015 14:09:16 GMT -5
IBLULT was a jam and a half.
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Post by allow that on Mar 16, 2015 15:09:43 GMT -5
I think there were better second single options than "I'll Be Lovin' You Long Time" but without a doubt it would have done better than "Bye Bye." It would have done well enough to keep momentum up for a third hit (as long as the third single wouldn't have been "Bye Bye" afterall!) so I voted yes in the poll.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 17, 2015 16:39:56 GMT -5
I loved ALL the singles from E=MC^2. Thank GOD that horrible mess "Migrate" was dead and buried.
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Post by BDGeek on Apr 2, 2015 18:59:46 GMT -5
Why Does everyone hate "Bye Bye?" I think it's a sweet sentiment.
Also, "I Stay In Love" should have been second. I stan like no other for that song.
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Post by leoapp on Apr 2, 2015 20:55:29 GMT -5
Why Does everyone hate "Bye Bye?" I think it's a sweet sentiment. Also, "I Stay In Love" should have been second. I stan like no other for that song. No hate for Bye Bye. Fans were mad because it's a poor single choice which killed E=MC2. And I agree, if the really had to pick a ballad as the 2nd single, I Stay In Love would be the best choice, could be massive, followed by one between triple bangers: Migrate, Side Effects and For The Record.. ISIL is one of my fave songs of her ever.
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Post by BDGeek on Apr 2, 2015 22:16:11 GMT -5
Why Does everyone hate "Bye Bye?" I think it's a sweet sentiment. Also, "I Stay In Love" should have been second. I stan like no other for that song. No hate for Bye Bye. Fans were mad because it's a poor single choice which killed E=MC2. And I agree, if the really had to pick a ballad as the 2nd single, I Stay In Love would be the best choice, could be massive, followed by one between triple bangers: Migrate, Side Effects and For The Record.. ISIL is one of my fave songs of her ever. "I Stay in Love" is part of my Mariah holy trinity, along with "Butterfly" and "Hero." The following single order for E=MC² would've been interesting: 1. Migrate 2. Touch My Body 3. I Stay In Love 4. I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time 5. Bye Bye
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Post by MiniMusic on Apr 6, 2015 9:40:14 GMT -5
"Bye Bye" isn't a good song to me mainly because of the fact that the sentiment is being contradicted by the use of tragic grammar lol. "This is for my peoples who lost they grandmothers?" What is that? Sounds completely ridiculous on a song about death.
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Post by Musicguy on Apr 6, 2015 10:54:25 GMT -5
E=MC2 is one of my favorite albums, and I love all singles, but I do agree that "Bye Bye" was weaker than "Migrate" and the awesome IBLULT. However, given that "Migrate" had such strength to debut on the Hot 100 as the album was released, it beats my mind why they didn't choose it as a single. It would have been the perfect TMB follow-up.
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Post by K. on Apr 12, 2015 7:28:55 GMT -5
I think IBLULT as second single would have made the era more successful. I think Bye Bye really killed the momentum. I think both IBLULT and I Stay in Love would have performed better without Bye Bye having been released before them.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 13, 2015 20:33:29 GMT -5
I would have done:
1. Touch My Body 2. Migrate 3. For the Record 4. I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time (pop)/Last Kiss (Urban) 5. Side Effects
I don't get second single vibes from IBLULT. It is more of a later single to kind of show the variety of the album.
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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 14, 2015 13:33:42 GMT -5
"Bye Bye" definitely hurt her momentum, but I always thought that this was the real nail in the coffin for the E=MC2 era.
It's not uncommon for an era to recover after one poor single choice, but they followed BB with a song that generated even less interest. Maybe nothing could've salvaged the era...but I think the fact that IBLULT performed significantly worse than BB (which at least cracked the Top 20 and spent more than a handful of weeks inside the Top 40) shows that it wasn't a smart single choice at all.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 19, 2015 8:03:43 GMT -5
A different 2nd single would have helped, but I don't think it would have made a huge difference tbh. There was just a different feel to that era as compared to TEOM, and Mariah's quickie marriage didn't help.
I do think "IBLULT" is great and almost belongs up there with her biggest pop hits, but for whatever reason Mariah had already lost some momentum by the time "Bye Bye" was released.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 19, 2015 8:18:02 GMT -5
Yes. It would have been at least a top 10 record, seeing as "Bye Bye" managed to peak in the top 20. This album was fun and happy, they got it completely wrong by thinking a ballad was going to represent it well in the early stages of its run. The ballad should've been the 4th single and it should've been "LOve Story" even though I love "I Stay In Love" and the video was cute. i just really wonder WTH they were thinking with BYEBYE...has mariah ever talked about it? Was she going for a One Sweet Day type of success? It just makes zero sense... Mariah has always had success following a pop gem with a ballad, so I think their thought process was to do that yet again. Stargate was big at that time, so I think they all thought "Bye Bye" could follow others in success. Don't forget that critics saw it as a hit, too, as several saw it as a fail-safe and predicted it would be her 19th chart topper. It's only in hindsight that people went, "WTH?"
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Post by Mack on Apr 19, 2015 8:52:42 GMT -5
IBLULT was a jam and a half. Totally. It's probably my all-time favorite song of hers. So, so good.
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Post by divasummer on Apr 20, 2015 11:55:50 GMT -5
I know why they released "Bye Bye". They were thinking updated version of "One Sweet day" and a similar sound to her last big ballads. However she's not a rapper so some of the lyrics seemed a little silly in my opinion. Did we ever find out why "Migrate" wasn't released? Was it clearance with T Pain. It wasn't my favorite from the cd but apparently most fans and some non fans loved it.
This may give most here a laugh but I always Loved O.O.C. and thought it could have done well. Apparently I'm in the minority here but I actually had Two friends that are minor MC fans Buy and Love that song at the time.
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