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Post by Mikel Echarri on May 6, 2015 13:59:15 GMT -5
Observations:
10. Thinking Out Loud: Definitely the last week at top 10. You did it great
9. Nasty Freestyle: Wow I didn't expected it to enter here o.o At least it isn't a bad song for me
8. Want To Want Me: It will peak at #3-4 in a couple of weeks (Even higher possibly). My favourite song of him.
7. Love Me Like You Do: Still obsessed with it. It will last in top 10 3-4 more weeks
6. Sugar: 5-6 weeks
5. Shut Up And Dance: GREAT!! Directly to the top 2 very soon (if #1 falls...)
4. Earned It: Why is it doing better than LMLYD? Is good, but... Really?
3. Uptown Funk: 21 weeks at top 3, congratulations. Now fall and keep space to SUAD please
2. Trap Queen: LOL. At least it won't be #1 for sure.
1. See You Again: Is good, but... I feel like other songs deserve the top more than this. This will last at least 8 weeks in total, I think.
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Post by Gary on May 6, 2015 14:15:29 GMT -5
Songs With the Most Weeks in the Hot 100's Top Three
21 weeks, "Uptown Funk!," Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars, 2014-15
19, "Smooth," Santana feat. Rob Thomas, 1999-2000
18, "We Belong Together," Mariah Carey, 2005
18, "Un-Break My Heart," Toni Braxton, 1996-97
17, "All About That Bass," Meghan Trainor, 2014
These are all last 20 years or so obviously. There was a time when 20 weeks + in the top 40 was considered a long time
As this song goes downhill, I wonder if we will see most weeks in top 4, 5, 6. etc.?
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Post by lyhom on May 6, 2015 14:17:20 GMT -5
LOL NASTY FREESTYLE
about that see you again thing, honestly I couldn't give a shit about its success or how "exploitative" it is because it's a boring ass listen anyways, but frankly I'd have rather seen people like ludacris and tyrese on the song, as they had more obvious connections to the movie and paul
I mean the song would still seem like a boring "I miss you" song with some paul walker tie in but I'd be able to see more obvious emotion from them honestly
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 14:23:14 GMT -5
Freestyle actually made top ten lol what the actual f**k? Anyway, yay for SUAD making top 5  edit: also, wow @ the fact that TQ would've been the one to dethrone UF! I was very skeptical but it turns out whoever predicted that had a solid prediction (of course no one saw SYA coming at that point)... land if UF broke the record for the most weeks in top 3 last week then why are they just now mentioning it instead of last week? Lol makes no sense to me |
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Post by Gary on May 6, 2015 14:33:53 GMT -5
Freestyle actually made top ten lol what the actual f**k? Anyway, yay for SUAD making top 5 edit: also, wow @ the fact that TQ would've been the one to dethrone UF! I was very skeptical but it turns out whoever predicted that had a solid prediction (of course no one saw SYA coming at that point)... land if UF broke the record for the most weeks in top 3 last week then why are they just now mentioning it instead of last week? Lol makes no sense to me An astute chart watcher who keeps track of these things pointed it out. Otherwise it would not get a mention. If that same chart watcher has the top 4 stats, I am sure it might get a mention. If See You Again had not dethroned Uptown Funk something else would have. Its time was about due. |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 6, 2015 14:34:27 GMT -5
Wiz Khalifa Tops Hot 100, T-Wayne Whips Into Top 10"Freestyle" has taken off "because it's so catchy," T-Wayne (real name: Rickey Wayne) told Billboard exclusively in his first interview in more than year. "Those lyrics, you can't deny, because it really is a hard freestyle. It says some real stuff, but it also says some funny stuff that people can relate to. It will make you laugh." www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6554093/wiz-khalifa-tops-hot-100-t-wayne "Got a tiger for a pet, gonna take it to the vet" Yep, hard. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 6, 2015 15:19:54 GMT -5
Wow Trap Queen would've been the song to dethrone Uptown Funk....wow. Can we just grasp that for a second? Also it looks like Shut up and Dance is gonna get some huge promotion next Tuesday. Maybe top 2/3 on 5/30?
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Post by Gary on May 6, 2015 15:27:28 GMT -5
I actually look at it differently. Trap Queen knocked Uptown Funk out of the top 2, that is all we know for sure.
If something else other than everyone's favorite FF7 song had not come along to deflate interest in Uptown Funk, interest might have turned to other songs instead. 14 weeks at the top is a long time, interest was bound to turn to something else.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 6, 2015 15:45:58 GMT -5
Dear @markg94, please stop harping on the same tired discussion points week after week. We know you think SYA is exploitative. No one's mind is going to change to agree with repetition in this thread.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 6, 2015 15:58:51 GMT -5
Wiz Khalifa Tops Hot 100, T-Wayne Whips Into Top 10"Freestyle" has taken off "because it's so catchy," T-Wayne (real name: Rickey Wayne) told Billboard exclusively in his first interview in more than year. "Those lyrics, you can't deny, because it really is a hard freestyle. It says some real stuff, but it also says some funny stuff that people can relate to. It will make you laugh." www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6554093/wiz-khalifa-tops-hot-100-t-wayne "Got a tiger for a pet, gonna take it to the vet" Yep, hard. "but also some funny stuff that people can relate to" |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 17:56:03 GMT -5
"Got a tiger for a pet, gonna take it to the vet" Yep, hard. "but also some funny stuff that people can relate to" Yep, I remember when I had a pet tiger  {Spoiler}
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Post by surfy on May 6, 2015 18:03:45 GMT -5
I will take Nasty Freestyle over Trap Queen anyday tbh.
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Post by lyhom on May 6, 2015 18:12:05 GMT -5
I will take Nasty Freestyle over Trap Queen anyday tbh.  (I prefer "Trap Queen" tbh) |
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Post by crystalphnx on May 6, 2015 18:34:59 GMT -5
It wasn't mentioned in the Billboard article, but Mariah's "Infinity" debuts at No. 82. I may have miscounted, but I believe "Infinity" marks her 47th Hot 100 entry (counting lead and featured appearances.) {Spoiler}{Mariah Carey Hot 100 History}01.) No. 1 = "Vision Of Love"
02.) No. 1 = "Love Takes Time"
03.) No. 1 = "Someday"
04.) No. 1 = "I Don't Wanna Cry"
05.) No. 1 = "Emotions"
06.) No. 2 = "Can't Let Go"
07.) No. 5 = "Make It Happen"
08.) No. 1 = "I'll Be There"
09.) No. 1 = "Dreamlover"
10.) No. 1 = "Hero"
11.) No. 3 = "Without You/Never Forget You"
12.) No. 12 = "Anytime You Need A Friend"
13.) No. 2 = "Endless Love"
14.) No. 21 = "All I Want For Christmas Is You" (I know this one's technically out of order.)
15.) No. 1 = "Fantasy"
16.) No. 1 = "One Sweet Day"
17.) No. 1 = "Always Be My Baby"
18.) No. 1 = "Honey"
19.) No. 1 = "My All"
20.) No. 15 = "When You Believe"
21.) No. 4 = "I Still Believe"
22.) No. 1 = "Heartbreaker"
23.) No. 1 = "Thank God I Found You"
24.) No. 28 = "Crybaby"
25.) No. 2 = "Loverboy"
26.) No. 81 = "Never Too Far/Hero Medley"
27.) No. 81 = "Through The Rain"
28.) No. 3 = "I Know What You Want"
29.) No. 21 = "U Make Me Wanna"
30.) No. 16 = "It's Like That"
31.) No. 1 = "We Belong Together"
32.) No. 2 = "Shake It off"
33.) No. 1 = "Don't Forget About Us"
34.) No. 79 = "Say Somethin'"
35.) No. 1 = "Touch My Body"
36.) No. 19 = "Bye Bye"
37.) No. 92 = "Migrate"
38.) No. 58 = "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time"
39.) No. 82 = "My Love"
40.) No. 7 = "Obsessed"
41.) No. 60 = "I Want To Know What Love Is"
42.) No. 100 = "Up Out My Face"
43.) No. 100 = "Oh Santa!"
44.) No. 86 = "All I Want For Christmas Is You (Superfestive!)"
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70. USHER - I Don't Mind f/Juicy J: 26.764 (+4.309***) ▲107. PHARRELL - Happy: 18.823 (+1.033***) ▲209. PASSENGER - Let Her Go: 8.726 (+2.383***) ▲ Any particular reason? Or did the respective formats just feel like adding the songs back? |
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Post by felipe on May 6, 2015 19:47:13 GMT -5
I actually look at it differently. Trap Queen knocked Uptown Funk out of the top 2, that is all we know for sure. If something else other than everyone's favorite FF7 song had not come along to deflate interest in Uptown Funk, interest might have turned to other songs instead. 14 weeks at the top is a long time, interest was bound to turn to something else. People didn't "lose interest" for UF just because SYA came out. It remained at #2 for 3 more weeks so I don't see that as people losing interest. It was still the song with the second most points, and you've been #1 if not for SYA. |
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Post by Gary on May 6, 2015 19:56:56 GMT -5
I actually look at it differently. Trap Queen knocked Uptown Funk out of the top 2, that is all we know for sure. If something else other than everyone's favorite FF7 song had not come along to deflate interest in Uptown Funk, interest might have turned to other songs instead. 14 weeks at the top is a long time, interest was bound to turn to something else. People didn't "lose interest" for UF just because SYA came out. It remained at #2 for 3 more weeks so I don't see that as people losing interest. It was still the song with the second most points, and you've been #1 if not for SYA. Yes, it remained #2 for 3 more weeks. BY "lose interest" , I mean NOT NUMBER ONE. Sorry if I wasn't clear,
My point was, we do not know for sure that barring the absence of everyone's favorite movie song that Uptown Funk would have been #1 the whole time. My point is something else could have risen to the top instead. All those people spending money on that one movie song could have diverted that money to a song other than Uptown Funk. We will not know for sure and it is a pointless discussion anyway. Uptown Funk was #1 for 14 weeks only.
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Post by Au$tin on May 6, 2015 20:06:31 GMT -5
Wiz Khalifa Tops Hot 100, T-Wayne Whips Into Top 10"Freestyle" has taken off "because it's so catchy," T-Wayne (real name: Rickey Wayne) told Billboard exclusively in his first interview in more than year. "Those lyrics, you can't deny, because it really is a hard freestyle. It says some real stuff, but it also says some funny stuff that people can relate to. It will make you laugh." www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6554093/wiz-khalifa-tops-hot-100-t-wayne "Got a tiger for a pet, gonna take it to the vet" Yep, hard. Yeah, the lyrics to "Nasty Freestyle" are absolutely ridiculous, but it's catchy as fuck. The into "First, let me hop out the motherfucking Porsche" kind of just opens the song so well, it kind of already sounds iconic, much like "First things first, I'm the realest." I honestly see "Nasty Freestyle" turning into a massive hit. I want to know what they think is "real" about the lyrics, though. "Ten times sharper than Michael Myers' machete"? (I actually like that line.) "I just hit her and I quit her, I would never ever date her"? "I'm the king of this shit, crowned by the toilet"? Like, it's kind of cheeky, but certainly not "hard" or "real." Like, what? |
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Post by 85la on May 6, 2015 20:10:01 GMT -5
That is not how they continue to frame it. Billboard (and most other media sources, Billboard set the precedent) continue to state quite frequently that Katy Perry only ties Michael Jackson's record of 5 number ones from one album, they do not mention the caveat of "per single release" and that she really holds the record of 6 when including all releases of one album. Especially comparing it to Usher's Confessions album, that I clearly remember was referred to as having four number ones from one album, even though one of the number ones was on the re-release. So they clearly did change the methodology after that. But your right, it is all about semantics and people can have it their way if they want to say TD only had five number ones. If they say that though, and I'm not just referring to you Gary or other posters here, but all media outlets in general, they have to be consistent and have to separate all chart achievements per each release of an album. KATY PERRY'S SWEET 'DREAM' Hi Gary, I just read the billboard.com article regarding "The Complete Confection," Katy Perry's deluxe/special edition re-release of her "Teenage Dream" album. The article mentioned that the new set will contain "three new songs, as well as four re-workings of her 'Dream' hits, along with the original album in its entirety." The article goes on to say, "Perry and [Michael] Jackson will remain tied for the most Billboard Hot 100 toppers from any album regardless of the performance of any singles from 'Confection.' Should any song released from 'Confection' reach No. 1, it would count as a Hot 100 No. 1 from 'Confection' and not 'Dream'." I'm confused. Has there been a change in Billboard chart policy? This special edition is constructed in a way no different than those that were released in recent years by Rihanna, Beyonce, Usher and many more artists. In all those cases, singles that served as new material were credited as part of their original album's chart statistics when they eventually charted. For instance, Rihanna's tally of Hot 100 top 10s from "Good Girl Gone Bad" stands at five - three from the original version of the album ("Umbrella," "Hate That I Love You," "Don't Stop the Music") and two from the "Reloaded" edition ("Take a Bow," "Disturbia"). I don't see how Perry's special edition is any different from those of these other artists. Since Perry has caused such a brouhaha by tying Michael Jackson's record of most No. 1 songs from a single album - five from "Dream"; six from "Bad" in 1987-88 - and attempting to break the same with the sixth single, "The One That Got Away," I'm sure there will be much attention paid to the chart fortunes of any of the three new tracks on "Confection," including first single "Part of Me." Thanks, Gary, for shedding light on this interesting new twist in the Perry/Jackson derby. Cheers! Christopher Brisson Los Angeles, California Hi Christopher, Thanks for the e-mail. I asked Billboard's director of charts, Silvio Pietroluongo, to address how Billboard will consider the angle going forward. Essentially, Billboard never analyzed the issue as thoroughly as until Perry matched Jackson and the possibility arose that Capitol Records would re-release of "Dream" in expanded form. At that point, the charts department considered that, as the practice of releasing deluxe editions has become fairly common in recent years, our commentary going forward will always need to be spell out exactly what feats we're highlighting. ("Part of Me" is due to debut on next week's Hot 100). Here is Pietroluongo's response: Billboard has attempted to do its best when linking singles to their appropriate parent albums but it has admittedly become a difficult task. As you know, the past few years have seen an increase in the practice of re-released or re-packaged albums, which have taken on many different forms. Some labels have tacked on one additional track to an album early in its chart life. Some even do so just for a digital release (i.e., Universal Republic's recent strategy for Jessie J's "Domino" on the digital version of "Who You Are"). Then, we see albums with just a few tracks tacked on in a modified version (think: Rihanna's "Reloaded"). Other albums receive a more extensive makeover, like Perry's upcoming "Dream" redux. So, I'm not going to say that Billboard has changed its policy on how we count such sets, since we really did not have a hard and fast rule to begin. However, when a record such as most No. 1s from an album comes into question, we do need to closely examine how we treat the situation, probably much more than was needed when we were tallying Rihanna's top 10 count from "Girl/Reloaded." We believe that the proper course of action going forward is to clearly qualify chart counts from either being from an album's initial release or its re-released version; and, keep the chart records separate, accordingly. Unfortunately, it's likely not going to end some of the murkiness, especially when a song or songs are added to an album relatively early in its existence. So, if we say that, "Perry and Jackson are tied for the most Hot 100 leaders from an album over one release," we're at least qualifying the parameters of the statistic. If Perry's new single, "Part of Me," hits No. 1 on the Hot 100, we could also say that, "Perry has tallied six Hot 100 No. 1s from 'Teenage Dream' and its re-released version. She remains tied with Jackson for the most toppers from an album over one release." (I also hope that whomever is tasked to do this research, say, 20 years from now will be able to tell all these album versions apart because we can tell you that keeping track of the many variations that have been released in the past few years has proven to be among our more difficult chores). Capitol and Perry, too, are content to have matched Jackson's esteemed milestone. "It was an incredible honor to tie the King of Pop's Billboard Hot 100 record, but I'm moving forward and had a few things left to get off my chest," she said in a press release promoting "Confection." "This is the complete special edition of my album for my fans." It seems that this article only validates my arguments. They admitted that they used to combine all versions of an album when referring to its singles' chart performance, i.e., that they referred to Good Girl Gone Bad as producing 5 top ten hits, two of which came from the "Reloaded" version though, and that from then on, they would qualify such statistics by using the phrases "over one release" or "from [insert album name here] and its re-released version(s)." Have they done this with Perry and Jackson? How often do you see them using the phrases in the article: "Perry and Jackson are tied for the most Hot 100 leaders from an album over one release," but "Perry has tallied six Hot 100 No. 1s from 'Teenage Dream' and its re-released version." You never see this. And if you want to make the argument that the Complete Confection version of TD was a different album than the original, that doesn't hold much water either. It did have 7 additional tracks on it, but 3 of those were remixes and one was a megamix, so there were only 3 brand new tracks. This is hardly a "different" album. Plus, if they wanted to separate the releases, why did they combine the sales of both versions into one ranking on the Billboard 200?!!! This inconsistency alone blows their methodology out of the water! Clearly, they had a way of referring to chart statistics, then said they would make a change, but did not actually adhere to that change. |
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Post by Gary on May 6, 2015 21:53:18 GMT -5
Well, you see it in what I posted anyway.
Semantics.
If this were to happen again and you were to send a question in to ask about songs from one release of an album vs songs from several releases of the same album they would agree with you. The fact that it is not printed by a Billboard writer weekly does not invalidate that Katy Perry got 6 #1's from all releases of Teenage Dream nor does it invalidate that Katy Perry got 5 number ones fro the initial release.
Just this week, they posted a "most weeks in the top 3" list because of comments sent in from a reader. Something you would never otherwise see.
A record is still a record. A mention in a blog post by Billboard is not necessarily needed to validate it.
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Post by ss8 on May 6, 2015 22:02:08 GMT -5
I agree there's no way to be 100% positive that UF wouldve spent 3 more weeks at #1. It's likely, but if SYA never came there's no way of knowing 'what' could've happened. We're simply basing it on the way things ended up only cause of SYA coming out and it def. shook up the charts (*public attention/interest etc..). 3 weeks is still a decent amount of time and who truly knows if people and esp radio etc..would not have simply shifted to another song. The fact that it 'appears' Trap Queen lol would've been the song to dethrone UF just doesnt totally land smoothly w/ me. The song most were predicting was Earned It which was def. on fire until SYA came along. They're both total r&b/urban pop friendly songs. I wouldn't be surprised if SYA stole sales/ momentum away from Earned It.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 0:01:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if SYA stole sales/ momentum away from Earned It. :'( |
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Post by jarhys on May 7, 2015 2:07:47 GMT -5
Predictions:
#11: G.D.F.R
#12: Somebody
#13: Post To Be
#14: Hey Mama
#15: Style
#16: One Last Time
#17: Honey I'm Good
#18: Chains
#19: Talking Body
#20: Dear Future Husband
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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 7, 2015 5:57:16 GMT -5
Now the real question(s) are how long until shut up and dance is number one, what will want to want me peak and how many weeks will uptown funk last in the top 10. I'm going with 3,3,28
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Post by imbondz on May 7, 2015 6:13:25 GMT -5
Now the real question(s) are how long until shut up and dance is number one, what will want to want me peak and how many weeks will uptown funk last in the top 10. I'm going with 3,3,28 I was thinking suad would have been #1 by now. I see it sneaking a week in maybe but definitely it's not for certain is it? |
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Post by Gary on May 7, 2015 7:00:47 GMT -5
Hopefully as we enter next week and See You Again's 5th week, we can finally be devoid of the following topic that has been the main theme the last month:
Boo-Hoo! Uptown Funk only spent 14 weeks at #1 and was robbed of up to 18 until Trap Queen took over if not for that evil movie marketing machine that put out a song that exploits dead people just in the nick of time to rob Bruno & Mark Ronson of an all time record.
Opinions have been stated by everyone and noted.
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Post by Daniel Collins on May 7, 2015 7:16:37 GMT -5
It wasn't mentioned in the Billboard article, but Mariah's "Infinity" debuts at No. 82.For the last 26 years, it was only in 2007 that she didn't have a Hot 100 entry. This is true if "All I Want For Christmas Is You" is counted as a 2012 Hot 100 entry. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 7, 2015 8:36:44 GMT -5
"but also some funny stuff that people can relate to" Yep, I remember when I had a pet tiger  {Spoiler}
I'm being sarcastic It's just weird when people pull out one line from a song to disprove a point about an entire song; one line doesn't necessarily represent a full song. |
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Post by forg on May 7, 2015 11:40:43 GMT -5
Fifth Harmony on its way to the top 20, who would have that low rated and canceled X Factor US would produce a far more successful act than top rated The Voice?
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Post by surfy on May 7, 2015 11:48:28 GMT -5
Fifth Harmony on its way to the top 20, who would have that low rated and canceled X Factor US would produce a far more successful act than top rated The Voice? Well, the X Factor was much better at finding STARS than the other shows... Too bad it's ratings were bad. :( |
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