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Post by rimetm on May 13, 2015 15:00:59 GMT -5
Because Spotify is both the only and majority of streaming? No, there are multiple sources for streaming including YouTube, Pandora, Rdio, and more. If you look at the 24.5 million streams, the 6.07 million Spotify plays aren't even 1/4 of the streams and that's after Spotify got the major boosts from the Taylor and Tidal controversies. A 450,000 drop in Spotify plays can easily be compensated across the board, especially if the song is getting improving YouTube representation (which I believe is responsible for about 50-60% of points in general, if I remember some of Uptown Funk's big weeks).
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 13, 2015 15:15:35 GMT -5
Because Spotify is both the only and majority of streaming? No, there are multiple sources for streaming including YouTube, Pandora, Rdio, and more. If you look at the 24.5 million streams, the 6.07 million Spotify plays aren't even 1/4 of the streams and that's after Spotify got the major boosts from the Taylor and Tidal controversies. A 450,000 drop in Spotify plays can easily be compensated across the board, especially if the song is getting improving YouTube representation (which I believe is responsible for about 50-60% of points in general, if I remember some of Uptown Funk's big weeks. But it makes no sense that one outlet would see a 8% drop in streams while it didn't drop anywhere else, and in fact increased. Spotify is the by far the largest subscription service, Rdio and the other subscription services are tiny fractions of the streaming market. YouTube is really the only source where streams could have been generated to overcome the drop on Spotify. It dropped 6% overall in On-Demand but increased 2% on Streaming Songs. YouTube and passive internet radio is the only place that 8% could be made up. |
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Post by jebsib on May 13, 2015 15:26:53 GMT -5
... and like that, "Macarena" is no longer the #2 song of the Rock Era.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 13, 2015 16:36:33 GMT -5
GDFR's run seems to be similar to Chandelier's. Took a decent amount of time to reach top 10, peaked at 8 and GDFR has spent a week less in the top 10 (doubt it'll last next week). Both also fell to #11, only to return back to the top 10 for another week (I believe Chandelier spent one more week at #9 or smth, I could be wrong lol)
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 16:53:06 GMT -5
... and like that, "Macarena" is no longer the #2 song of the Rock Era. According to the 50th and 55th anninversary lists. that song never actually was #2 |
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 18:24:13 GMT -5
So for this weeks "record" question for UF
What is the record for longest stay in the top 4? ;)
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Post by jebsib on May 13, 2015 18:39:55 GMT -5
Those lists are funny. The last one (55th anniversary) listed "One Sweet Day" as the 34th biggest song of the Rock Era.
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 19:16:24 GMT -5
Those lists are funny. The last one (55th anniversary) listed "One Sweet Day" as the 34th biggest song of the Rock Era. See the incredibly short chart run. I wouldn't put it at #1 either |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 19:45:52 GMT -5
Because Spotify is both the only and majority of streaming? No, there are multiple sources for streaming including YouTube, Pandora, Rdio, and more. If you look at the 24.5 million streams, the 6.07 million Spotify plays aren't even 1/4 of the streams and that's after Spotify got the major boosts from the Taylor and Tidal controversies. A 450,000 drop in Spotify plays can easily be compensated across the board, especially if the song is getting improving YouTube representation (which I believe is responsible for about 50-60% of points in general, if I remember some of Uptown Funk's big weeks). No but the thing is that if Spotify streams decreased but it increased in overall streams that means that it increased in YouTube etc. streams. The question is how in the actual fuck is it STILL increasing in YouTube etc. streams??? |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 13, 2015 20:25:18 GMT -5
SYA's Spotify streams dropped by over half a million this week and it still saw a 2% increase in streaming. Ikr f**k logic, apparently Your understanding =/= logic. |
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Post by emperortigerstar on May 13, 2015 20:50:08 GMT -5
The club anthem leads Hot Rock Songs for a seventh week. That just seems contradictory. LOL! It's interesting how spread out most of these songs are in terms of their positions on the various charts. What caused "UF" to rise in streaming? Man, I don't know how people play out a song so much. Simple: More people keep discovering it. Literally just yesterday I found a guy in his 30s who streams music every day but had never heard of Uptown Funk. The song with its older sound appeals to older people so there's plenty of demographics that have yet to obtain an Uptown Funk. |
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 21:02:12 GMT -5
TV show performances tend to wear off after a couple days. well so do movie soundtrack singles but yet here we are with SYA  goes without saying that I hope the same result happens with SUAD in spite of what is expected. It would serve as a nice antidote for what happened with SYA. Which movie soundtrack singles die off after a couple days? |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 21:07:51 GMT -5
well so do movie soundtrack singles but yet here we are with SYA goes without saying that I hope the same result happens with SUAD in spite of what is expected. It would serve as a nice antidote for what happened with SYA. Which movie soundtrack singles die off after a couple days? How about the previous Fast and the Furious movie's "We Own It"? Off the top of my head, there was also "New Divide" by Linkin Park, from the Transformers movie IIRC. "The Hanging Tree" is another good recent example. Perhaps it's a bit more than a couple of days but it is still very short lived, SYA being the obvious exception. |
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 21:18:39 GMT -5
There are other movie songs in the top 10 even now.
All hits, by "short lived" I suppose you mean not #1 for 5+ weeks?
Movie songs have actually done that before as well. Some of the biggest songs ever have actually come from movies btw
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 21:22:41 GMT -5
There are other movie songs in the top 10 even now.
All hits, by "short lived" I suppose you mean not #1 for 5+ weeks?
Movie songs have actually done that before as well. Some of the biggest songs ever have actually come from movies btw
True, but to bring us back to your original point - similarly, songs such as "Moves Like Jagger" sustained long-term high sales/popularity due to performances on shows along the lines of The Voice or something (and in 2011 it seemed like Maroon 5's career was pretty much dead before MLJ started slaying, to be followed by like 7 more top tens for them...who saw that one coming? :O). Hence it is possible for the same to happen to SUAD, instead of it being just for a couple of days like you said so we will wait and see  |
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 21:27:24 GMT -5
There are other movie songs in the top 10 even now.
All hits, by "short lived" I suppose you mean not #1 for 5+ weeks?
Movie songs have actually done that before as well. Some of the biggest songs ever have actually come from movies btw
True, but to bring us back to your original point - similarly, songs such as "Moves Like Jagger" sustained long-term high sales/popularity due to performances on shows along the lines of The Voice or something. Hence it is possible for the same to happen to SUAD, instead of it being just for a couple of days like you said so so we will wait and see So movie songs actually do tend to stay around and become hits? It is actually not unheard of after all? Just checking
Re: Moves Like Jagger, they were actually connected with the show yes? And Walk The Moon was a guest performer?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 21:29:37 GMT -5
True, but to bring us back to your original point - similarly, songs such as "Moves Like Jagger" sustained long-term high sales/popularity due to performances on shows along the lines of The Voice or something. Hence it is possible for the same to happen to SUAD, instead of it being just for a couple of days like you said so so we will wait and see So movie songs actually do tend to stay around and become hits? It is actually not unheard of after all? Just checking
Re: Moves Like Jagger, they were actually connected with the show yes? And Walk The Moon was a guest performer?
MLJ is not the only example though. Plus I don't really see what connections with the show have to do with a song's longevity... |
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Post by Gary on May 13, 2015 21:36:30 GMT -5
So movie songs actually do tend to stay around and become hits? It is actually not unheard of after all? Just checking
Re: Moves Like Jagger, they were actually connected with the show yes? And Walk The Moon was a guest performer?
MLJ is not the only example though. Plus I don't really see what connections with the show have to do with a song's longevity... It doesn't, we weren't discussing longevity I thought. It's slow rise in popularity will likely continue.
However, It won't clearly shoot to #1 and dethrone that song you don't like simply because it was performed on The Voice. That effect will wear off in a couple days. Most performances on music oriented shows see a short burst in iTunes sales that declines after the effects of the show wears off.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 14, 2015 1:52:51 GMT -5
#2 Honey I'm Good
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Post by Future Captain on May 14, 2015 5:13:51 GMT -5
@markg94 I will take the pleasure to inform that See You Again will be performed in BBMA :) As much as I'm displeased by the fact that Taylor will probably got blocked from #1, at least Trap Queen won't be #1 (I began to like the song though).
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Post by Rhythm Nation on May 14, 2015 5:49:05 GMT -5
@markg94 I will take the pleasure to inform that See You Again will be performed in BBMA :) As much as I'm displeased by the fact that Taylor will probably got blocked from #1, at least Trap Queen won't be #1 (I began to like the song though). How was Taylor ever going to be no1 with virtually zero airplay? |
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Post by rimetm on May 14, 2015 6:04:37 GMT -5
Sorry for not doing these for a while!-Nasty Freestyle falls 9-11 this week, so yes, this is one of the more boring weeks for the top 10 (with the 3-4 switch and the 9-10-11 cycle being the only things that happened). -No new songs on the top 20, though the newer songs (as officially reported) are closing in. Worth It bullets once more and sticks at #21. -Where Are U Now is now matching the second biggest debut from Bieber's big Journals promotion (All That Matters) in its 30-24 move. The only song from that album that performed better was Heartbreaker at #13. -Expect Watch Me to drop next week despite its new peak 38-33. Sales crashed early in the tracking week, and for proof that can affect the chart, Nobody Love falls from its #60 peak all the way down to #95. -Newly a hit (along with Pretty Girls) is Sippin' on Fire moving 45-40. The 2 boot FourFiveSeconds (36-45) and Homegrown (40-57), the latter propped last week by the album launch. Speaking of, the launch of Wilder Mind means Believe is the Digital Gainer this week and moves 79-54. -It's not a hit again yet, but Elastic Heart moves 47-41 due to consistent sales and a slightly recovering airplay. -4 new songs in the top 50: Pretty Girls, Cheerleader (63-47), Smoke (55-49), and Bright (57-50). These kick the aforementioned Homegrown, Centuries (49-X, recurrent), Fight Song (50-53 with a bullet), and I Want You to Know (46-63). -Say You Do begins its country airplay freefall, crashing 54-66 this week. -King Kunta falls 72-80 this week. Expect some recovery as the song was put on sale this week. THIS WEEK'S DEBUTS #29: Pretty Girls (Primary factor: Sales) #78: Coffee (Primary factor: Sales) #87: I Want Your Love (Primary factor: Sales?) #89: Classic Man (Primary factor: Streams? It has only just started even approaching top 100 on iTunes) #93: The Night is Still Young (Primary factor: Streams) #99: Shine On (Primary factor: Sales that function as votes) THIS WEEK'S DROPOUTS #49: Centuries (recurrent) #71: Simple Man #82: Infinity #87: Stressed Out #95: Legend #100: Feeling Myself
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Post by lyhom on May 14, 2015 6:30:20 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if "I Need Your Love" debuted mostly thanks to radio airplay tbh, it's decently high on the pop chart
same could be said for "Classic Man", it's top 20 on both urban and rhythmic, although I have no clue what it's sales are like so idk
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Post by jenglisbe on May 14, 2015 9:48:04 GMT -5
Because Spotify is both the only and majority of streaming? No, there are multiple sources for streaming including YouTube, Pandora, Rdio, and more. If you look at the 24.5 million streams, the 6.07 million Spotify plays aren't even 1/4 of the streams and that's after Spotify got the major boosts from the Taylor and Tidal controversies. A 450,000 drop in Spotify plays can easily be compensated across the board, especially if the song is getting improving YouTube representation (which I believe is responsible for about 50-60% of points in general, if I remember some of Uptown Funk's big weeks. But it makes no sense that one outlet would see a 8% drop in streams while it didn't drop anywhere else, and in fact increased. Spotify is the by far the largest subscription service, Rdio and the other subscription services are tiny fractions of the streaming market. YouTube is really the only source where streams could have been generated to overcome the drop on Spotify. It dropped 6% overall in On-Demand but increased 2% on Streaming Songs. YouTube and passive internet radio is the only place that 8% could be made up. Well, whether it makes sense to you or not, it apparently happened. If "One Sweet Day" had been eligible to chart before its commercial release, it obviously would have had a longer chart run. And then "Always Be My Baby" coming along obviously meant radio moved on more quickly, whereas with songs like "Uptown Funk" and even "Macarena" that didn't happen. There are so many factors to chart runs that it gets really complicated to compare them. |
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Post by ILLUSION on May 14, 2015 10:29:58 GMT -5
'Hey Mama' is SMASHING! All hell will break loose once they drop the video and after Sunday's BMA performance ;)
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Post by divasummer on May 14, 2015 13:40:35 GMT -5
Does anyone think "Pretty Girls" might miss the Top 10?
Posters are saying Streams for the video are underperforming for an artist like Britney.
It's AI at radio aren't gaining that much compared to it's spin increases.
Right now it's up to 29 on ITunes so it is rising a decent amount.
How fast do videos usually make a song jump on ITunes.
I believe it's moved up about 20 spaces in 1 day. That sounds pretty good???
I know there's the BBMA's performance but it's going to be competing with a lot of artists for sales.
Unlike a "Voice" performance where it's just 2 already established artists usually performing on the show.
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Post by Kris on May 14, 2015 14:12:58 GMT -5
I doubt it will even make top 20
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:49:21 GMT -5
'Hey Mama' is SMASHING! All hell will break loose once they drop the video and after Sunday's BMA performance ;) I'd like that! Hey Mama is actually growing on me now (though I still prefer the previous David/Nicki collabo to this one), as well as the obvious other reason why I would want it to be #1 lol. |
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