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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 4, 2016 14:49:38 GMT -5
Oh no!! The Hills out of top 10!!! No!!!
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Post by popbox on Jan 4, 2016 14:51:18 GMT -5
I heard that WWWY will be up on Spotify in a couple weeks. I heard this from some other person on this forum. Also, it just seem right that Sorry would only peak at #2 but LY would peak at #1. Love Yourself doesn't seem like that big radio-type hit. But I guess we will have to see. Love Yourself slowed a bit due to the freeze, but it's due to reach the Top 10 at pop this week. Frankly, I do think it feels like a big radio hit. Sales, moreover, have been stellar since the album came out. And I think a great video takes it over the top. It really does feel like a bona fide smash to me. Sorry was a big hit and the best single Bieber ever released, but sometimes the charts don't pan out correctly. Wasn't "Apologize" blocked by something like the forgotten "Kiss Kiss" as an example? Plus, while it has sold really well for 2015, it's not like it put up Hello, Happy, or Uptown Funk numbers. It's not THAT much of a travesty if it doesn't hit #1. Honestly, I already feel like Love Yourself is set up to become Bieber's signature hit. And I'm talking of his career, not just the album. It will be massive and I think there's a huge chance it blocks WWWY from #1 even with streaming and a video for that song. Hello and LY could very well be the only #1's of the year until early summer.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 4, 2016 15:02:58 GMT -5
Oh geez.. White Iversion #15! And One Call Away #36! Finally top 40!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:19:38 GMT -5
Gary Trust just tweeted that there's a new song in the top 10 - assuming Stressed Out? I sure hope so!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:21:17 GMT -5
^ It is.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 4, 2016 15:33:22 GMT -5
badrobot- what do you mean by "no less"? The recurrent play for the 2005-on hits are not as high as they were in 2009 (WBT's totals are less than half of the amount it was seeing in 2009). "Always Be My Baby" is easily her strongest non-holiday recurrent.
popbox- true about the effect of streaming on digital sales, and how it's comparable to digital; sales' impact on albums. It was one thing to release singles commercially, but when you can buy individual tracks (not just radio singles) from an album, albums were gonna take a hard hit. And now streaming's impacted both albums and digital-track sales.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 4, 2016 15:35:21 GMT -5
1. Can Adele tie Mariah Carey/Boyz II Men?
2. Will Justin Bieber tie Foreigner?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:41:13 GMT -5
1. Can Adele tie Mariah Carey/Boyz II Men? 2. Will Justin Bieber tie Foreigner? the answer to both of those questions, in my opinion, is: probably not
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Post by Gary on Jan 4, 2016 15:54:59 GMT -5
I love how Billboard is still writing up the occurrence of a double-digit run at #1 as still a rare thing. JUST the 31st song to land a 10 week run at #1 out of 1048 songs or 3% of the total since 1958
How about the 29th #1 song since late 1992 (275 songs 11% of the total)
or how about the 3rd since last year?
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Post by popstop on Jan 4, 2016 15:59:55 GMT -5
2. Will Justin Bieber tie Foreigner? And Missy - how could you forget her? >:( WTF
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 4, 2016 16:06:04 GMT -5
2. Will Justin Bieber tie Foreigner? And Missy - how could you forget her? >:( WTFJust looked it up. That was from 2002, a more recent achievement than 1981.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 4, 2016 16:07:21 GMT -5
I love how Billboard is still writing up the occurrence of a double-digit run at #1 as still a rare thing. JUST the 31st song to land a 10 week run at #1 out of 1048 songs or 3% of the total since 1958 How about the 29th #1 song since late 1992 (275 songs 11% of the total) or how about the 3rd since last year? I'm glad you note late 1992, which was the beginning of singles being limited, not issued, cut-out, etc. Huge impact on the chart and then when it moved to all airplay, it continued. Only when digital sales were added did it became less common again with a great deal of turnover. Once streaming hit, it's a repeat of the previous era. Obviously, we can tell which songs/artist benefit from streaming when airplay and sales are low, but songs are still high disproportionately high on the charts. I just wish Billboard would change the weighing on active v passive streaming.
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Post by Gary on Jan 4, 2016 16:13:52 GMT -5
I note late 1992 only because that is when we had the first occurrence of the double digit run when Boyz II Men broke the long standing record held by the only two in the Hot 100 era to hit 10 weeks prior to that.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 4, 2016 16:25:57 GMT -5
Why are people so confident "WWWY" will challenge for #1? It isn't really taking off in downloads despite a lot of exposure via performances and increasing airplay.
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Post by Envoirment on Jan 4, 2016 16:41:19 GMT -5
Why are people so confident "WWWY" will challenge for #1? It isn't really taking off in downloads despite a lot of exposure via performances and increasing airplay. It's climbing iTunes now in response to airplay, with plenty of room to grow there. Her performances had more impact on her album sales - although "When We Were Young" peaked at #3 on iTunes on album release and has stuck around a while. It's yet to go to streaming or have a video released - both those things happening would put it quite easily in contention for #1.
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Post by badrobot on Jan 4, 2016 16:50:18 GMT -5
badrobot- what do you mean by "no less"? The recurrent play for the 2005-on hits are not as high as they were in 2009 (WBT's totals are less than half of the amount it was seeing in 2009). "Always Be My Baby" is easily her strongest non-holiday recurrent. popbox- true about the effect of streaming on digital sales, and how it's comparable to digital; sales' impact on albums. It was one thing to release singles commercially, but when you can buy individual tracks (not just radio singles) from an album, albums were gonna take a hard hit. And now streaming's impacted both albums and digital-track sales. "no less" as in "no less than the highly esteemed HG" -- trying to give you cred, bruh!
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Post by badrobot on Jan 4, 2016 16:55:06 GMT -5
So Justin has had 3 songs in the top 5 for 5 weeks -- I know the Beatles had 8 weeks, but was that with more than 3 different songs total? In other words, does Justin have the longest stretch for the *same* 3 songs to be in the top 5? I'm guessing no but just curious. (Also please don't construe that as me wanting Justin to beat a Beatles record, I don't really care either way!)
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Post by leredlum on Jan 4, 2016 16:58:44 GMT -5
Prediction 18. Hands to Myself whoops
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Post by popstop on Jan 4, 2016 17:03:56 GMT -5
So Justin has had 3 songs in the top 5 for 5 weeks -- I know the Beatles had 8 weeks, but was that with more than 3 different songs total? In other words, does Justin have the longest stretch for the *same* 3 songs to be in the top 5? I'm guessing no but just curious. (Also please don't construe that as me wanting Justin to beat a Beatles record, I don't really care either way!) Looks like the first five weeks of that streak, three songs did stay in the top five together - She Loves You, I Want to Hold Your Hand, and Please Please Me
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Post by imbondz on Jan 4, 2016 17:10:54 GMT -5
I love how Billboard is still writing up the occurrence of a double-digit run at #1 as still a rare thing. JUST the 31st song to land a 10 week run at #1 out of 1048 songs or 3% of the total since 1958 How about the 29th #1 song since late 1992 (275 songs 11% of the total) or how about the 3rd since last year? It's still a cool rare thing to happen even if it's happened 3 times in the past year.
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Post by when the pawn... on Jan 4, 2016 17:31:00 GMT -5
Well it's only happened 3 times in the past year but that's at least 30 weeks of the year (more than half) occupied by those songs. Of course it's a big accomplishment but it isn't rare amongst #1 songs in the last few years.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 4, 2016 17:58:12 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6828954/adele-hello-hot-100-10th-week-twenty-one-pilots-top-10Adele's 'Hello' Tops Hot 100 for 10th Week as Twenty One Pilots Fly to Top 101/4/2016 by Gary Trust "Hello" hits rarified air with 10 weeks at No. 1. Plus, "Stressed Out" continues its crossover from alternative. It's a new year, but Adele holds the same coveted spot on the Billboard Hot 100 (dated Jan. 16), where "Hello" reigns for a 10th week. The ballad has spent all of its weeks at No. 1, after debuting atop the Nov. 14 chart. Plus, twenty one pilots tally their first Hot 100 top 10, as "Stressed Out" bounds into the top tier. As we do every Monday, let's take off on a flight through the Hot 100's top 10, and beyond. Highlights of the airplay/sales/streaming-based Hot 100 post on Billboard.com each Monday, with all charts updated each Tuesday. With a 10th week atop the Hot 100, "Hello," the lead single from Adele's album 25 (released on XL/Columbia Records), becomes just the 31st No. 1 in the Hot 100's history to reign for double-digit weeks. Put another way: 1,048 No. 1s have crowned the Hot 100 since it launched in 1958, so "Hello" is in the top 3 percent of the longest-leading hits all-time. (Adele previously led for as many as seven frames with 2011's "Rolling in the Deep," her first of four No. 1s.) "Hello" is the longest-leading Hot 100 No. 1 since Wiz Khalifa's "See You Again," featuring Charlie Puth, which ruled for 12 weeks last year. "Hello" logs the most weeks atop the Hot 100 by a solo female since Rihanna's "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris, which led for 10 weeks in 2011-12. (The overall record? Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day" spent 16 weeks at No. 1 in 1995-96.) "Hello" tallies a seventh week atop Digital Songs (passing "Deep" for her longest run atop the chart), gaining by 88 percent to 327,000 downloads sold in the week ending Dec. 31, according to Nielsen Music; sales of most songs rose in the tracking week, surely thanks to redemption of gift cards received for Christmas. The song has sold 3.7 million since its release. "Hello" also rules Radio Songs for an eighth week (extending Adele's longest command on the chart) with 172 million all-format audience impressions (up 9 percent). On Streaming Songs, it holds to No. 2 (after notching seven weeks at No. 1) with 19.8 million U.S. streams, down 6 percent. It's also noteworthy that "Hello" has spent its first 10 weeks on the Hot 100 at No. 1. That's the fourth-longest stretch that a No. 1-debuting song has stayed at the summit. Here's a look at the singles to link the most consecutive weeks atop the Hot 100 from their starts at No. 1: 16 weeks, "One Sweet Day," Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men, 1995-96 14 weeks, "Candle in the Wind" / "Something About the Way You Look Tonight," Elton John, 1997-98 11 weeks, "I'll Be Missing You," Puff Daddy & Faith Evans feat. 112, 1997 10 weeks, "Hello," Adele, 2015-16 Meanwhile, second 25 single "When We Were Young" rises 54-47 on the Hot 100, led by its 45 percent increase to 56,000 sold and 35 percent boost to 38 million in radio audience. Beneath "Hello" on the Hot 100, Justin Bieber's "Sorry" holds at its No. 2 peak after debuting at the rank (below "Hello") nine weeks ago. "Sorry" snares a third week at No. 1 on Streaming Songs (23.2 million, down 5 percent) and leads the subscription services-based On-Demand Songs chart for a seventh week (9.4 million on-demand streams, down 6 percent). It's steady at No. 2 on Radio Songs (137 million, essentially even from the week before) and rebounds 3-2 on Digital Songs (271,000, up 97 percent). Bieber additionally ranks at No. 3 on the Hot 100 as "Love Yourself" stays at its highpoint. The song keeps at No. 3 on Streaming Songs (15.7 million, down 4 percent); backtracks 2-3 on Digital Songs, but with a 76 percent blast to 267,000; and roars 19-16 on Radio Songs (53 million, up 20 percent). Bieber places three songs in the Hot 100's top five for a fifth total week, as "What Do You Mean?" is a non-mover at No. 5 (after debuting as his first No. 1 on the Sept. 19 chart). All three singles are from his album Purpose, which bowed atop the Billboard 200 six weeks ago. As previously noted, only Bieber, 50 Cent (for two weeks in 2005) and the Beatles (eight weeks, 1964) have posted three simultaneous top five Hot 100 hits. While the race for No. 1 on the Hot 100 was close again this week, "Hello" padded its lead slightly: the song is up by 23 percent in overall activity, while "Sorry" gains by 19 percent. Also in the Hot 100's top five, Drake's "Hotline Bling" continues at No. 4 after reaching No. 2. It logs a 10th week at No. 1 on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart and rules Hot Rap Songs for a 15th week. Shawn Mendes' "Stitches" lifts 8-6 on the Hot 100 after peaking at No. 4, spurred by its 171 percent vault to 140,000 sold. Mendes also rises 33-28, hitting a new peak, with follow-up "I Know What You Did Last Summer," with Fifth Harmony's Camila Cabello. Selena Gomez's "Same Old Love" drops a notch (6-7) from its best Hot 100 rank; and, Alessia Cara's debut hit "Here" likewise retreats a spot from its Hot 100 peak (7-8). twenty one pilots touch down in the Hot 100's top 10 for the first time, as "Stressed Out" flies 13-9. The cut holds at No. 4 on Digital Songs, but with a 95 charge to 159,000 sold, and rises 14-12 on Radio Songs (59 million, up 8 percent) and 26-20 on Streaming Songs (7.1 million, up 9 percent), all highpoints (in ranks and sums). The hip-hop-influenced track tops Billboard's Hot Rock Songs chart for a second week, leads the Alternative Songs airplay chart for a ninth week and keeps crossing over to mainstream audiences, rising 14-13 on Pop Songs and bulleting at No. 20 on Adult Pop Songs. "Stressed Out" is from twenty one pilots' album Blurryface, which became the duo's first No. 1 upon its debut atop the Billboard 200 last June. The set soars 11-3 on the Jan. 16 chart and has sold 592,000 to date. "You can't underestimate the power of a core fan base and people who believe what you're doing," the act's Tyler Joseph told Billboard last year; Josh Dun completes the pair. "It doesn't matter what we post about ourselves on social networks or how many times we play live TV, even. It's all about those people, those fans who are telling other people about us. I think that's what we're seeing more than anything." Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Meghan Trainor's "Like I'm Gonna Lose You," featuring John Legend, holds at No. 10 after reaching No. 8. Among action outside the Hot 100's top 10, Post Malone's "White Iverson" jumps 24-15; Demi Lovato's "Confident" climbs 27-23; and, two songs reach the top 40: Daya scores her first top 40 Hot 100 hit with "Hide Away" (42-31), and Charlie Puth tallies his third with "One Call Away" (57-36). Find out more noteworthy news throughout the chart in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column to post later this week. And, visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Jan. 5), when all rankings, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh, as they do each Tuesday. The Hot 100 and other charts will also appear in the next issue of Billboard magazine, on sale Friday (Jan. 8).
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 4, 2016 18:26:18 GMT -5
There are always counter examples of course. Teens who listen to pop music and are aware of who the current stars are will know the songs that have received the recent exposure on pop radio. They may think songs sound familiar when you play it for them but they may not know the name. People who did not live through 'One Sweet Day' are less likely to know of its impact than someone who did live through it. So as I said before different age groups will give different responses to how they feel about One Sweet Day I am sure someone who disagrees with this post will be able to say otherwise. However, Let's face it teens who listen to pop radio get exposed to the current music from the current stars. This means they are less likely to hear songs from Mariah or Madonna or know the names of the older songs. But teenagers do know older songs, even songs from before they were born. If they don't know Mariah's then that's related to how her songs have aged and not to teenagers themselves. I can tell you a lot of teens know Michael Jackson's or Beatles' songs. Or Lose Yourself, Baby one more time, Macarena or Don't Stop Believing. Teenagers don't know One Sweet Day mostly because it's not really a popular song anymore. I was curious about this discussion so I asked a girl I work with who just turned 24 what her thoughts and memories of. She would have been born in 1991 and she seems to be up on a lot of today's songs, albeit obviously behind us on Pulse. She's really into rap, loves Kanye, Eminem and Kendrick Lamar, but also pop music too. I asked first about what she thought of Justin Bieber and whether she thought it was okay to admit to liking his music now. She said three years ago, probably not, but that he's actually talented and his new music is good. For comparison I asked whether she thought the same about One Direction and she said no. Then I asked what she knew about Mariah Carey. The first song she mentioned was All I Want For Christmas. Then she said she also knew of You Will Always Be My Baby, Touch My Body, I think she said Obsessed, and she mentioned "can't live" but couldn't think of the song title but said someone sang it on some tv singing reality show. The only one I could think of was Without You, but that seems too random an old song for her to know over any of the others. I also asked if she was familiar with a Mariah song called One Sweet Day, she said no. Then I asked what songs by Madonna she knew. She said Like A Prayer and that song with Justin Timberlake. That was it. lol. So I asked who she thought was more successful overall and she said Mariah Carey, because she's been around so long and sold more albums. Of course then I told her Madonna was around for longer but I didn't correct her otherwise. lol I just thought it was interesting and obviously this means very little because it's just one person's perspective but it does kind of go to show how older music is marketed to newer audiences. Mariah's music is always targeted at younger people and in a lot of ways it works. I found it interesting that my co-worker wasn't more familiar with Madonna's newer stuff, though it didn't do well at all but at least the song with Nicki Minaj. Unless it just didn't come to mind.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 4, 2016 18:58:46 GMT -5
br- gotcha- and much thanks. :)
On the subject of big hits and recurrent life, of the pop female vets (who debuted pre-2000), Madonna enjoys the most recurrent play when all formats are taken into account. She has a pretty staggering showing at AC.
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Post by Gary on Jan 4, 2016 20:10:29 GMT -5
I love how Billboard is still writing up the occurrence of a double-digit run at #1 as still a rare thing. JUST the 31st song to land a 10 week run at #1 out of 1048 songs or 3% of the total since 1958 How about the 29th #1 song since late 1992 (275 songs 11% of the total) or how about the 3rd since last year? It's still a cool rare thing to happen even if it's happened 3 times in the past year. Another way of looking at this
29 #1's since 8/16/92 that have ran 10 or more weeks Those 29 #1's account for 346 weeks or over 6 and half years out of a possible 23 and a half years (28%)
or on average 1 out of every 3 or 4 weeks there is a song that will stay on top for 10 weeks.
Not quite so rare at this point
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Post by 85la on Jan 4, 2016 21:29:54 GMT -5
I don't get the success of Watch Me on streaming. Or I did get it but not any more, 8 months later. I think its become HUGE with little kids (as in the elementary set). And needless to say, they're not as up to speed on things. I know my little 4th grade nieces just discovered it like a month ago. I'm just putting it out there, Trap Queen is FAR more of a quandary to me than Watch Me.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 4, 2016 22:09:30 GMT -5
THIS is why I love Billboard: "...solo female since Rihanna's "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris...."
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Post by Glove Slap on Jan 4, 2016 22:15:59 GMT -5
That's the end of The Weeknd's streak.
Could Charlie Puth finally be on his way to a solo hit as well?
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Post by Caviar on Jan 4, 2016 22:22:43 GMT -5
THIS is why I love Billboard: "...solo female since Rihanna's "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris...." To be fair Calvin contributes zero vocals.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Jan 4, 2016 22:39:44 GMT -5
you know sales are at an all-time low when gift card week yields only one song with sales above 300k lol... 5 years later, (in 2021) Sales 1. *Song name* 22k 2. *Song name* 19k 3. *Song name* 18k Spotify Streams 1. *Song name* 112m 2. *Song name* 99m 3. *Song name* 84m (All of this would be on a normal week with no new hit song release)
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