Billboard Hot 100: 01/23/2016 (Sorry #1)

[renfield75]

Jan 11, 2016 21:40:36 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jan 11, 2016 19:37:43 GMT -5 jerz said:

Any news regards David Bowie (who recently died at the age of 69) on iTunes?

Do his one or two songs will be make it to Billboard Hot 100 next week?

Assuming there is decent streaming and sales don't die off too soon, I think Space Oddity has a shot at the Hot 100.  Maybe another as well?  It's hard to predict, but he's got a very handsome showing on iTunes. It's wonderful to see.

I doubt they will have enough points to crack the top 50 but it would be great to see "Heroes" finally chart or "Changes" make a much-delayed appearance in the top 40 (it topped out at #41 in 1975). If nothing else, I really hope Blackstar can give him his first #1 album.

[THINKIN BOUT YOU]

Ow~ look at Stressed Out and In the Night on airplay. So proud!

[Anticonformity]

I never understand the whole "if the music is good, people will buy it"

um, Believe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Purpose, totally bought and supported Believe but Purpose is meh...

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Jan 12, 2016 5:20:31 GMT -5 Anticonformity said:

I never understand the whole "if the music is good, people will buy it"

um, Believe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Purpose, totally bought and supported Believe but Purpose is meh...

Believe is much less broadly accessible than Purpose IMO. This is his first adult album and people are responding to it.

[Deleted]

Jan 11, 2016 21:47:29 GMT -5 Gary said:

One would have to leave first in order to "comeback" from something

I don't believe that analogy at all. A comeback also means getting through adversity especially after people write you off, and leave you for dead. Also, his last major album was 3 years ago, so it should indeed be considered a comeback.

[Deleted]

Jan 11, 2016 20:21:10 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I am an old person I guess. I don't even know what Justin's antics were and never got the impression he was in some horrible position. All I know is as a chart follower he never appeared to falter commercially. Every album hit #1 and he's had a string of top tens. This is the first year I've had any interest in his music, and it sounds like a lot of people are in that boat, so to me this is an artist growing into a more mature fan base.

No, this is a comeback. His last major album was released in 2012, and then released a digital album that went nowhere. Trust me, his bad publicity really hurt his reputation to the point where he was losing several of his original fans. I could name all the negative things he was doing, but we'd be here all day. People were writing him off, and began to assume his career would take a big hit. Instead, he's having even more success than he ever had. Prior to this he's never had a number one hit, now he has two. In that sense, it is in fact a comeback.

[velaxti]

Jan 12, 2016 5:20:31 GMT -5 Anticonformity said:

um, Believe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Purpose, totally bought and supported Believe but Purpose is meh...

Believe is definitely the better of the two albums, objectively.

The difference now is that it's socially acceptable, even "cool" to like Justin Bieber at the moment. As Long As You Love Me would go to #1 if Justin released it today.

It's like the opposite of Lady Gaga, she could release a song 10x as good as Just Dance today, but it wouldn't be as successful.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 12, 2016 6:51:03 GMT -5 @billboardfan1 said:

Jan 11, 2016 21:47:29 GMT -5 Gary said:

One would have to leave first in order to "comeback" from something

I don't believe that analogy at all. A comeback also means getting through adversity especially after people write you off, and leave you for dead. Also, his last major album was 3 years ago, so it should indeed be considered a comeback.

Do you think of weekends as vacations?

Naw, it's not a comeback. Otherwise, nearly every artist today who releases a new album has a comeback and while it sounds nice on paper for them, the word becomes pretty much meaningless. Cher in 1998, Tina in 1984, Mariah in 2005, those are comebacks. 3 years between officially label-backed promotions is regular enough to be standard.

[ry4n]

So I guess that means Britney never had a comeback either. Blackout was only 4 years after In The Zone, and the latter wasn't really a floppy era.

[Envoirment]

Jan 12, 2016 8:51:55 GMT -5 ry4n said:

So I guess that means Britney never had a comeback either. Blackout was only 4 years after In The Zone, and the latter wasn't really a floppy era.

I thought Circus was the comeback album and Blackout was a part of her downfall? I mean Blackout was her poorest performing album to date and didn't do her image much justice at the time - especially with "Gimme More" and the MTV Awards performance of the song. Not to mention her breakdown a few months or so before the album campaign kicked off with the image of her with a shaved head hitting a car with an umbrella. Plus her subsequent mental instability after the album release.

[Gary]

Justin Bieber is hitting #1 now with regularity, some here are calling it a comeback.

This would imply he was at this level before, left and came back to achieve it yet again.

Justin Bieber obviously never left but, he has never been at this level before the last year, one could say he had a "breakthrough" rather than a "comeback"

[Future Captain]

Jan 12, 2016 9:41:02 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Jan 12, 2016 8:51:55 GMT -5 ry4n said:

So I guess that means Britney never had a comeback either. Blackout was only 4 years after In The Zone, and the latter wasn't really a floppy era.

I thought Circus was the comeback album and Blackout was a part of her downfall? I mean Blackout was her poorest performing album to date and didn't do her image much justice at the time - especially with "Gimme More" and the MTV Awards performance of the song. Not to mention her breakdown a few months or so before the album campaign kicked off with the image of her with a shaved head hitting a car with an umbrella. Plus her subsequent mental instability after the album release.

"Poorest performing album"
Britney Jean say hello.

[Envoirment]

Jan 12, 2016 9:54:17 GMT -5 Future Captain said:

Jan 12, 2016 9:41:02 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I thought Circus was the comeback album and Blackout was a part of her downfall? I mean Blackout was her poorest performing album to date and didn't do her image much justice at the time - especially with "Gimme More" and the MTV Awards performance of the song. Not to mention her breakdown a few months or so before the album campaign kicked off with the image of her with a shaved head hitting a car with an umbrella. Plus her subsequent mental instability after the album release.

"Poorest performing album"
Britney Jean say hello.

"at the time" says hello.

[Future Captain]

Jan 12, 2016 10:06:49 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Jan 12, 2016 9:54:17 GMT -5 Future Captain said:

"Poorest performing album"
Britney Jean say hello.

"at the time" says hello.

Ah, didn't read that part. My bad.

[carreramd]

Jan 12, 2016 7:56:34 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Jan 12, 2016 5:20:31 GMT -5 Anticonformity said:

um, Believe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Purpose, totally bought and supported Believe but Purpose is meh...

Believe is definitely the better of the two albums, objectively.

The difference now is that it's socially acceptable, even "cool" to like Justin Bieber at the moment. As Long As You Love Me would go to #1 if Justin released it today.

It's like the opposite of Lady Gaga, she could release a song 10x as good as Just Dance today, but it wouldn't be as successful.

I agree about Justin's popularity, but I think Gaga will be successful this year with her new music. The ARTPOP era was really her worst, but I'm pretty sure that she succeeded in her "image recovery" with the clean style + cheek to cheek + performance at oscars + grammy winner + woman of the year 2015 + golden globes. I believe she became popular, in a positive way, again.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 12, 2016 10:26:16 GMT -5 carreramd said:

Jan 12, 2016 7:56:34 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Believe is definitely the better of the two albums, objectively.

The difference now is that it's socially acceptable, even "cool" to like Justin Bieber at the moment. As Long As You Love Me would go to #1 if Justin released it today.

It's like the opposite of Lady Gaga, she could release a song 10x as good as Just Dance today, but it wouldn't be as successful.

I agree about Justin's popularity, but I think Gaga will be successful this year with her new music. The ARTPOP era was really her worst, but I'm pretty sure that she succeeded in her "image recovery" with the clean style + cheek to cheek + performance at oscars + grammy winner + woman of the year 2015 + golden globes. I believe she became popular, in a positive way, again.

I hope so but I agree that I doubt she'll be as big as she was in her first era, going back to the point of image and being 'in trend' being a main component for one's success and popularity.

[divasummer]

I wouldn't call Bieber's latest cd a full throttle "comeback" either.
Even though his reputation was somewhat in the toilet his music and performing skills didn't change much unlike Britney's.
Plus he didn't go to rehab, have a breakdown, revive a dead career etc.
Yes "Chronicals' wasn't a huge smash but wasn't that the cd that WASN"T supposed to be released as a package.
I thought at first he was just releasing a new song every monday and his label said they weren't even pushing it to radio.
If I remember correctly 2 songs did get videos and did decently at ITunes.
I thought that project was kind of there to let him do his new found Urban music and to show he grew up some.

[Deleted]

Gaga is in an interesting place right now in terms of her image.... while the cleaned up glam thing maybe working for her for some, is it "cool" like she used to look in her younger, "weirder" days? Wasn't that part of her appeal? I suppose there's a good chance the "weirdness" will make a comeback (hehe) when she's back in pop music mode. Ultimately I think it's going to come down to how the music itself is received, regardless of her recent "clean up" and/or image transitions.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I'd say it depends on what demographics she targets too.

[badrobot]

I have no idea if Gaga can really stage a successful comeback. I feel like she pretty much turned herself into a camp icon and there's too much baggage from that to ever really own the charts again. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

I really wish video streaming had been included during her heyday. I'm pretty sure she'd have a bunch more #1s.

[SPRΞΞ]

Jan 12, 2016 11:36:40 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I have no idea if Gaga can really stage a successful comeback. I feel like she pretty much turned herself into a camp icon and there's too much baggage from that to ever really own the charts again. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

I really wish video streaming had been included during her heyday. I'm pretty sure she'd have a bunch more #1s.

I doubt it. She's not a streaming force. It's actually her weakest category.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Is it though?

[SPRΞΞ]

Jan 12, 2016 11:59:25 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Is it though?

yea, it's pretty well known that she is. It could change, of course. But I think she has only 1 song in the Top 60 Spotify all-time.

her last big hit, Applause, has 232M views on youtube. Unconditionally has 230M and This Is How We Do has 422M.

her biggest hit in the YouTube era, Bad Romance, has 650M, but that's the highest one she's got by far. Of course things could change. But that "I Want Your Love" video didn't do too well either. Like 10M or so.

[Bhad Bill]

Jan 12, 2016 11:59:25 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Is it though?

She absolutely is (was? Will be?) a streaming force when it comes to music videos. Bad Romance was a monster, and was my first memory of a music video on the internet really helping to blow up a song and become a viral event. And before that, my views alone on Poker face and Love Game would have affected their performance, let alone the rest of the world.

And (Spree) we weren't talking about Spotify... Just music video streaming.

[Deleted]

i'll say it again.... it's gonna come down to the music itself. there's still a fanbase there, but it's not what it once was, and so the music will make her or break her in terms of all the mainstream success and chart metrics.

[brady47]

YES at Selena getting her first top 3 radio hit! Pretty amazing that "Same Old Love" is going to be a bigger radio hit than "Good For You". She's doing so well this era.

[brady47]

Man, if it wasn't for the monster Hello, Justin Bieber would have a 9-week #1 with Sorry :/

[badrobot]

Gaga's videos were frequently event videos. Bad Romance was briefly the most streamed video on YouTube of all time wasn't it?

You have to look at figures for 2009/2010 and how she stacked up to other streaming numbers at that time. I don't think Spotify was even in the US market then was it?

[Caviar]

No. Spotify didn't come to the US until 2011.

[ry4n]

And even then, Spotify didn't become the huge force it is now until like 2014.