Billboard Hot 100: 03/05/2016

[85la]

Feb 19, 2016 15:10:55 GMT -5 badrobot said:

^yet another tricky thing for Check It Out, as per wikipedia:

"It appears on Minaj's debut album, Pink Friday,[2] though it was not released in promotion of the album."

And this brings up other issues regardless of the 6th single discussion -- for example, when a song is previously released but included on a later album, do you count it? One notable example I always think of: On Madonna's "American Life" album, do you count "Die Another Day" as a single from it? It came off the Bond soundtrack but was included on the album, and it was deliberately included as part of the flow of tracks rather than as a "bonus cut." I bring that one up because if you DO count it, that means every studio Madonna album from 1983-2012 had at least one top ten single. If you don't count it, you chop a decade off that streak.

I have always thought of this too, and there are countless other examples:

Monica's For You I Will - The Boy is Mine album
The Bee Gee's You Should Be Dancing - Sat Night Fever soundtrack
(the above two singles actually came out a year before the album)
George Michael's I Want Your Sex - Faith
Destiny's Child's Independent Women - Survivor
and just this past year, the Weeknd's Earned It - Beauty Behind the Madness

It's hard to say, but I would say that regardless of how much earlier the single comes out before the album, it should count if it was planned to be on the upcoming album. If it isn't planned, and they just tack it on later to increase sales or whatever, maybe not so much, but technically it should count because it is on the album and was at some time released as a single, but with the special caveat that it wasn't originally planned to be as part of the set and not promoted with and released around the same time as the album.

Regarding the sixth single issue, it is funny how the last, or later singles from an album can often tank and do much worse than their predecessors. This is especially interesting to see when many singles are released from an album, it's like there's all of a sudden this burst of fatigue that sets in. An extreme example that comes to mind is Fergie's The Dutchess, where she had five top five singles, and the sixth, Finally, didn't even make the Hot 100.

[prenatt1166]

courtesy of Gary Trust, BILLBOARD

Will Rihanna Dethrone Justin Bieber Atop the Hot 100?

2/19/2016 by Gary Trust

Rihanna could "Work" her way to No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 by Monday (which would make for a nice present, just after her birthday Saturday).

Justin Bieber's "Love Yourself" has led the list for two nonconsecutive weeks, interrupted a week ago by Zayn's No. 1-debuting "Pillowtalk," while Rihanna's "Work," featuring Drake, rises 7-4 this week (on the chart dated Feb. 27).

However, based on projected sales, according to sources, and streaming and airplay data, collected by Nielsen Music so far in the tracking period, for next week's Hot 100 (dated March 5), "Work" and "Love Yourself" are essentially tied in projected downloads sold, with approximately 100,000 each, according to sources' forecasts, with "Work" looking slightly ahead of "Love Yourself." "Work" is noticeably ahead in streams, but "Love Yourself" is leading significantly in radio airplay. The preliminary figures suggest a tight race for the Hot 100's summit (with the chart encompassing those three data metrics).

(Notably, the official video for "Work" is expected Monday, which is after the tracking week for the March 5 charts has ended; thus, any gains caused by the clip's arrival would be reflected on the following week's tallies, dated March 12.)

Meanwhile, twenty one pilots' "Stressed Out," at No. 2 on the Hot 100 this week, is currently trending below both "Work" and "Love Yourself" in overall potential chart points.

The winner, and the entire Hot 100's top 10, will be revealed on Billboard.com Monday (Feb. 22).

If "Work" reaches the top spot, Rihanna and Drake would celebrate their second shared No. 1: "What's My Name?," also billed as Rihanna featuring Drake, topped the Nov. 20, 2010, Hot 100.

Here's something interesting that will be a chart first if indeed "Work" reaches number one---Rihanna will become the first act to collect TWO number one collaborations with TWO separate artists. Only two pairings have reached the top twice so far.

JENNIFER LOPEZ/JA RULE

2001 I'm Real
2002 Ain't It Funny

RIHANNA/EMINEM

2010 Love The Way You Lie
2013 The Monster

RIHANNA/DRAKE

2010 What's My Name
2016 Work

If you want to include all the stars who contributed solo vocals on USA FOR AFRICA'S "We Are The World" (1985), you can add two more pairings.

DIANA ROSS/LIONEL RICHIE

1981 Endless Love

DIONNE WARWICK/STEVIE WONDER

1986 That's What Friends Are For (also featuring Elton John and Gladys Knight)

(NOTE: This list does not include acts such as SIMON & GARFUNKEL and DARYL HALL & JOHN OATES, who did chart separately solo acts, but were also considered regular duos.)

[Ravi]

Predictions:

Rank	Song	Sales	Airplay	Streams	Points
1	Love Yourself	105	150	16.5	40,400
2	Work	110	75	22.0	38,100
3	Stressed Out	100	145	13.5	36,900
4	Sorry	50	130	17.0	32,700
5	My House	115	80	11.5	30,400
6	PILLOWTALK	90	35	17.0	27,700
7	Hello	60	105	11.5	26,800
8	Me, Myself & I	70	65	13.0	25,100
9	Roses	40	80	8.5	19,500
10/11	Hands To Myself	50	60	8.0	18,200
10/11	Cake By The Ocean	45	60	8.5	18,100

* I think Love Yourself should remain #1 this week, though it is not entirely safe.
* If Work can get 2M+ more streams, then it might get that #1! If it gets a bit less, it might rank #3. But #2 is the most probable as of now.
* PILLOWTALK may overtake Hello this week, thanks to still very impressive streaming.
* #10 should be close between HTM and CBTO, but I would bet on the former.

[THINKIN BOUT YOU]

Work got 22M streaming without a music video, and Stressed Out is like... 13.5m with a good video

[THINKIN BOUT YOU]

And 25,100 points for No.8... Wow!!!

[THINKIN BOUT YOU]

Feb 20, 2016 0:35:56 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

Feb 19, 2016 23:20:43 GMT -5 THINKIN BOUT YOU said:

On that note Twenty One Pilots' label is aware that there's something called billboard hot 100 and they're gonna miss their perhaps the only chance to hit no.1 by not putting it on 0.69 and no remix / viral video, right? Lmao

Stressed Out will not make it to #1. I predict that when SO passes LY, Work or WWWY will take #1 on that same week (unless Work or WWWY manages to gain faster than I thought, which would result in Work or WWWY being #1 a week or two earlier).

Hey WWWY has barely scratched top 20 and its radio is almost peaked, and digital doesn't have much potential to watch, and streaming... just hope that its upcoming video (if there is one) is not as dull as countless other examples

[hitseeker.]

Feb 19, 2016 17:12:51 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Her label is aware of the new tracking week, right? Lmfao

They are but they don't care. Rihanna rarely releases a video or single at the beginning of a tracking week.

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Feb 20, 2016 2:09:42 GMT -5 Ravi said:

Predictions:

Rank	Song	Sales	Airplay	Streams	Points
1	Love Yourself	105	150	16.5	40,400
2	Work	110	75	22.0	38,100
3	Stressed Out	100	145	13.5	36,900
4	Sorry	50	130	17.0	32,700
5	My House	115	80	11.5	30,400
6	PILLOWTALK	90	35	17.0	27,700
7	Hello	60	105	11.5	26,800
8	Me, Myself & I	70	65	13.0	25,100
9	Roses	40	80	8.5	19,500
10/11	Hands To Myself	50	60	8.0	18,200
10/11	Cake By The Ocean	45	60	8.5	18,100

* I think Love Yourself should remain #1 this week, though it is not entirely safe.
* If Work can get 2M+ more streams, then it might get that #1! If it gets a bit less, it might rank #3. But #2 is the most probable as of now.
* PILLOWTALK may overtake Hello this week, thanks to still very impressive streaming.
* #10 should be close between HTM and CBTO, but I would bet on the former.

Jillboard100 on YouTube predicts that Cake By The Ocean will be#8, Me, Myself & I #7 and Pillowtalk completely out of the top 10. Your prediction seems more feasible, but I would definitely be much happier if the outcome was that of Jillboard100's prediction 

[MTSChart21]

MM&I has a pretty good lead for that #8 spot. Wow. Also, I didn't expect Work to possibly pass Stressed Out this week. I mean it doesn't have a music video. But I guess those #Rihanna channels with the whole audio of "Work" do help that. But just, wow. Stressed Out has almost no chance of reaching #1 now. When Work gets a video, the only thing that could pass Work is WWWY. I mean, Adele just gets worshiped in the world of pop music, so she shouldn't have an problem with reaching at least #2. That's if Adele doesn't wait too long for this video.

[MTSChart21]

Feb 20, 2016 5:48:11 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Feb 20, 2016 2:09:42 GMT -5 Ravi said:

Predictions:

Rank	Song	Sales	Airplay	Streams	Points
1	Love Yourself	105	150	16.5	40,400
2	Work	110	75	22.0	38,100
3	Stressed Out	100	145	13.5	36,900
4	Sorry	50	130	17.0	32,700
5	My House	115	80	11.5	30,400
6	PILLOWTALK	90	35	17.0	27,700
7	Hello	60	105	11.5	26,800
8	Me, Myself & I	70	65	13.0	25,100
9	Roses	40	80	8.5	19,500
10/11	Hands To Myself	50	60	8.0	18,200
10/11	Cake By The Ocean	45	60	8.5	18,100

* I think Love Yourself should remain #1 this week, though it is not entirely safe.
* If Work can get 2M+ more streams, then it might get that #1! If it gets a bit less, it might rank #3. But #2 is the most probable as of now.
* PILLOWTALK may overtake Hello this week, thanks to still very impressive streaming.
* #10 should be close between HTM and CBTO, but I would bet on the former.

Jillboard100 on YouTube predicts that Cake By The Ocean will be#8, Me, Myself & I #7 and Pillowtalk completely out of the top 10. Your prediction seems more feasible, but I would definitely be much happier if the outcome was that of Jillboard100's prediction 

I heard before on the comment section of Jillboard's prediction for the 2/27 chart that it was a fan that sent her predictions. But I'm not so sure about it though.

[popmusic1]

YOUTUBE WEEKLY CHART
Week ending: 02/18
STATUS: FINAL

TW	Title	Artist	Streams	CHG
1	Work	Rihanna	7.513	+481.2%
2	Sorry	Justin Bieber	6.776	-7.9%
3	Love Yourself	Justin Bieber	6.059	-3.9%
4	PILLOWTALK	Zayn Malik	5.464	+17.2%
5	Hello	Adele	5.461	+1.2%
6	Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae) (Spanglish Version)	Silento	5.183	-2.4%
7	Stressed Out	twenty one pilots	4.605	+3%
8	Don't	Bryson Tiller	4.089	+0.4%
9	Me, Myself & I	G-Eazy	3.865	+9.5%
10	Uptown Funk	Mark Ronson	3.739	-2%
11	Hotline Bling	Drake	3.662	-3.3%
12	See You Again (feat. Charlie Puth)	Wiz Khalifa	3.58	+5.1%
13	My House	Flo Rida	3.433	+1.3%
14	White Iverson	Post Malone	3.393	-0.6%
15	What Do You Mean?	Justin Bieber	3.37	-5.3%
16	Trap Queen	Fetty Wap	3.154	+1.3%
17	The Hills	The Weeknd	3.097	-2.6%
18	Jumpman	Drake	3.084	+11.4%
19	Say It	Tory Lanez	3.056	+0.7%
20	Exchange	Bryson Tiller	3.041	+2.9%
21	679	Fetty Wap	2.973	-1.8%
22	Stitches	Shawn Mendes	2.957	-0.1%
23	Best Friend	Young Thug	2.844	+5.7%
24	Down in the Dm	Yo Gotti	2.757	-13.6%
25	2 Phones	Kevin Gates	2.724	+13.2%
26	Antidote	Travis Scott	2.702	+3.0%
27	Really Really	Kevin Gates	2.354	+1.7%
28	Shake It Off	Taylor Swift	2.269	-0.1%
29	Lean On (feat. MO & DJ Snake)	Major Lazer	2.181	-0.8%
30	One Call Away	Charlie Puth	2.171	+16.3%
31	My Way (Feat. Monty)	Fetty Wap	2.107	+5.8%
32	Thinking Out Loud	Ed Sheeran	2.044	+29.3%
33	Roses	The Chainsmokers	2.011	-4.3%
34	Where Ya At	Future	1.991	+3.6%
35	Can't Feel My Face	The Weeknd	1.979	+1.6%
36	Sugar	Maroon 5	1.975	+2.6%
37	Betcha Can't Do It Like Me Challenge	DLow	1.947	-3.4%
38	Hands To Myself	Selena Gomez	1.893	+1.4%
39	Same Old Love	Selena Gomez	1.886	+8.9%
40	Like I'm Gonna Lose You	Meghan Trainor	1.832	-1.8%

Others:
Out of the Woods 921k (-0.8%)
When We Were Young Adele 871k
The Sound Of Silence Disturbed 709k

[Dylan :)]

People still think WWWY can hit #1?

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Feb 20, 2016 11:10:58 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

People still think WWWY can hit #1?

Apparently... I still don't see it happening though.

[Dylan :)]

Feb 20, 2016 11:22:39 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Feb 20, 2016 11:10:58 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

People still think WWWY can hit #1?

Apparently... I still don't see it happening though.

Without the video, I can't see it top ten, and unless the video is great, I can't see CHR turning around

[Daniel Collins]

2016/02/20

*** = dropped or added a format

1. JUSTIN BIEBER - Love Yourself: 185.011 (+0.981)
2. TWENTY ONE PILOTS - Stressed Out: 179.486 (+0.665***)
3. JUSTIN BIEBER - Sorry: 164.076 (-0.596)
4. ADELE - Hello: 130.170 (-0.736)
5. THE WEEKND - In The Night: 114.002 (-2.328)
6. THE CHAINSMOKERS - Roses f/Rozes: 104.401 (+0.421***) ▲
7. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 104.321 (+0.584) ▲
8. SELENA GOMEZ - Same Old Love: 104.263 (+0.050) ▼
9. FLO RIDA - My House: 99.027 (+1.706)
10. ADELE - When We Were Young: 95.849 (+0.085) ▲

11. ALESSIA CARA - Here: 94.156 (-1.727) ▼
12. RIHANNA - Work f/Drake: 91.622 (+2.064)
13. G-EAZY - Me Myself And I f/Bebe Rexha: 79.558 (+2.019)
14. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 73.829 (-0.628)
15. DNCE - Cake By The Ocean: 73.162 (+0.788) ▲
16. DAYA - Hide Away: 72.426 (-0.320) ▼
17. SELENA GOMEZ - Hands To Myself: 71.892 (+1.613) ▲
18. GRANGER SMITH - Backroad Song: 70.497 (-1.262) ▼
19. ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 69.306 (+0.468***)
20. KELSEA BALLERINI - Dibs: 67.221 (+0.886) ▲

21. LUKE BRYAN - Home Alone Tonight: 65.192 (-1.885) ▼
22. DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 64.595 (-0.643) ▲
23. MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 64.518 (-0.723) ▼
24. CHARLIE PUTH - One Call Away: 64.466 (+1.094) ▲
25. CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Heartbeat: 64.288 (+0.881) ▼
26. RACHEL PLATTEN - Stand By You: 63.415 (+0.281) ▲
27. ELLIE GOULDING - On My Mind: 62.087 (-1.061) ▼
28. RANDY HOUSER - We Went: 61.582 (+0.422) ▲
29. KEITH URBAN - Break On Me: 61.424 (+0.144) ▼
30. TORY LANEZ - Say It: 61.018 (-0.069)

31. TAYLOR SWIFT - Out Of The Woods: 56.619 (-2.586)
32. ZAC BROWN BAND - Beautiful Drug: 56.220 (+1.061) ▲
33. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 56.064 (-0.221) ▼
34. THOMAS RHETT - Die A Happy Man: 53.681 (-0.249)
35. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 52.047 (-0.110)
36. BRYSON TILLER - Don't: 51.223 (-0.285)
37. DRAKE & FUTURE - Jumpman: 49.486 (-0.796)
38. COLDPLAY - Adventure Of A Lifetime: 47.999 (-0.575)
39. BRETT ELDREDGE - Drunk On Your Love: 47.867 (+0.857) ▲
40. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Confession: 47.593 (+0.544) ▼

41. COLE SWINDELL - You Should Be Here: 46.780 (+0.412)
42. YO GOTTI - Down In The DM: 46.027 (+0.174)
43. CHRIS BROWN - Back To Sleep: 45.867 (+0.419) ▲
44. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 45.610 (+0.066) ▼
45. CHASE BRYANT - Little Bit Of You: 44.542 (+0.337) ▲
46. FETTY WAP - Again: 43.809 (-0.500) ▼
47. ZAYN - Pillowtalk: 43.388 (+1.384) ▲
48. TRAVI$ SCOTT - Antidote: 42.796 (+0.507***) ▼
49. RASCAL FLATTS - I Like The Sound Of That: 42.750 (+0.639) ▼
50. MIKE POSNER - I Took A Pill In Ibiza: 41.841 (+1.311) ▲

51. ELLIE GOULDING - Something In The Way You Move: 41.713 (+1.075)
52. BROTHERS OSBORNE - Stay A Little Longer: 39.859 (-0.510) ▲
53. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 39.766 (+0.243) ▲
54. MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 39.615 (+0.325) ▲
55. JEREMIH - Oui: 39.489 (+0.084)
56. SAM HUNT - Break Up In A Small Town: 39.418 (-1.602) ▼
57. ROBIN SCHULZ - Sugar f/Francesco Yates: 39.394 (+2.610***) ▲
58. X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 38.123 (-0.380)
59. LOCASH - I Love This Life: 37.897 (-0.650) ▼
60. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 37.858 (+0.018) ▼

61. CHRIS STAPLETON - Nobody To Blame: 37.678 (+0.436)
62. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 37.041 (-0.764) ▼
63. OLD DOMINION - Snapback: 36.636 (+0.392)
64. J. COLE - No Role Modelz: 33.236 (-0.461)
65. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 33.098 (+0.110)
66. LUKAS GRAHAM - 7 Years: 32.418 (+0.869) ▲
67. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 32.132 (-0.071) ▼
68. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 32.110 (+0.309) ▼
69. MAREN MORRIS - My Church: 32.074 (+0.492)
70. BEYONCE - Formation: 32.057 (+1.240) ▲

71. FETTY WAP - 679 f/Remy Boyz...: 31.919 (+0.477)
72. MAROON 5 - Sugar: 31.174 (-0.558) ▼
73. LEE BRICE - That Don't Sound Like You: 29.671 (+0.513)
74. DUSTIN LYNCH - Mind Reader: 29.561 (+0.620) ▲
75. ED SHEERAN - Thinking Out Loud: 29.256 (+0.234) ▼

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Feb 19, 2016 21:17:14 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Feb 19, 2016 20:54:03 GMT -5 @zach808 said:

Does All I Ask have enough sales to enter the chart? At least at the bottom? It doesn't have streaming or radio, so I'm not really sure.

I'd say it does, but probably not higher than 80-85. Can I get confirmation from @broccoli ?

If it sells around 40k it has a shot at entering the bottom tier of the H100.

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Feb 20, 2016 11:43:38 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Feb 20, 2016 11:22:39 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Apparently... I still don't see it happening though.

Without the video, I can't see it top ten, and unless the video is great, I can't see CHR turning around

Yeah, if there is a video and they release it before radio totally bails - and it's good - I think it could push the song to - or close to - #1.  I think at least a top 10 would be a sure thing.  I've lost some confidence in there being a video at this point, but given their schizo promotion during this single's era, it still could happen. I really just want to see a visual for the song! 

[jarhys]

Feb 20, 2016 12:22:59 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

7. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 104.321 (+0.584) ▲

This is so crazy!!
Stitches is still alive!!

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Feb 20, 2016 12:46:39 GMT -5 jarhys said:

Feb 20, 2016 12:22:59 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

7. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 104.321 (+0.584) ▲

This is so crazy!!
Stitches is still alive!!

Crazy indeed. I'm interested to see what the future holds for him.  Will he ever be able to outdo - or even match - the success of Stitches?  The relatively lackluster response to IKWYDLS isn't a very good gauge because it's a duet, and many duets get sketchy reception at radio for whatever reason(s).

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Does Something New by Zendaya have a chance at the Hot 100 this week, or at all?

[MTSChart21]

Do the Chris Brown/Usher/Zayn remix views count for Back To Sleep's streaming? (Sorry, I'm not an expert. I was just wondering because that's not the original song playing in the videos.)

[Deleted]

Crazy that Stitches is still alive.

[carreramd]

popmusic1 I was pretty sure that Out Of The Woods would be on Top 40 ????

[85la]

Has there been any info. or rumors about whether a video has even been or is being filmed for WWWY? If they haven't even started filming one yet, I couldn't see it coming out until at least mid-March, by which time it will surely be too late.

[felipe]

Feb 20, 2016 1:08:47 GMT -5 85la said:

Feb 19, 2016 15:10:55 GMT -5 badrobot said:

^yet another tricky thing for Check It Out, as per wikipedia:

"It appears on Minaj's debut album, Pink Friday,[2] though it was not released in promotion of the album."

And this brings up other issues regardless of the 6th single discussion -- for example, when a song is previously released but included on a later album, do you count it? One notable example I always think of: On Madonna's "American Life" album, do you count "Die Another Day" as a single from it? It came off the Bond soundtrack but was included on the album, and it was deliberately included as part of the flow of tracks rather than as a "bonus cut." I bring that one up because if you DO count it, that means every studio Madonna album from 1983-2012 had at least one top ten single. If you don't count it, you chop a decade off that streak.

I have always thought of this too, and there are countless other examples:

Monica's For You I Will - The Boy is Mine album
The Bee Gee's You Should Be Dancing - Sat Night Fever soundtrack
(the above two singles actually came out a year before the album)
George Michael's I Want Your Sex - Faith
Destiny's Child's Independent Women - Survivor
and just this past year, the Weeknd's Earned It - Beauty Behind the Madness

It's hard to say, but I would say that regardless of how much earlier the single comes out before the album, it should count if it was planned to be on the upcoming album. If it isn't planned, and they just tack it on later to increase sales or whatever, maybe not so much, but technically it should count because it is on the album and was at some time released as a single, but with the special caveat that it wasn't originally planned to be as part of the set and not promoted with and released around the same time as the album.

Regarding the sixth single issue, it is funny how the last, or later singles from an album can often tank and do much worse than their predecessors. This is especially interesting to see when many singles are released from an album, it's like there's all of a sudden this burst of fatigue that sets in. An extreme example that comes to mind is Fergie's The Dutchess, where she had five top five singles, and the sixth, Finally, didn't even make the Hot 100.

Do you think the single should be counted even if it was meant to promote something else before the album was released (or even planned sometimes)? If we do, then something like Mariah's greatest hits would be the album with the most #1 singles, and not Bad anymore.

[Dylan :)]

Radio was so slow to warm up to Stitches, now it doesn't seem to want to let go

[badrobot]

I'm thinking if Adele does another video it will be for her third single. WWWY is just coasting and will probably fade in a few weeks.

[felipe]

Feb 19, 2016 9:12:56 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

For what it's worth, there's also something to be said about albums that sell 5 million copies vs. albums that don't. Especially when it comes down to any singles after, say, #4. Taylor manages to have hit singles and sell between 4 and 7 million copies of an album... whereas Katy has had more singles success while selling fewer albums (in general).  Teenage Dream sold well in the US with 3m - but its an interesting specimen when we look at other A-list albums with similar singles success.  There's this mysterious phenomenon that makes some acts singles artists, some album artists, and some both.

But Wildest Dreams was a hit, and it's not like a huge number of people bought her album in the timeframe between single #5 and single #6 to justify OOTW underperforming.

[jenglisbe]

Some sources have started distinguishing records in terms of being the lead artist, and to that end Rihanna has a ways to go to catch Mariah. Even if "Work" hits #1, that would 'only' put her at 11 #1s as a lead artist.

[Arabella21]

Feb 20, 2016 17:01:52 GMT -5 felipe said:

Feb 19, 2016 9:12:56 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

For what it's worth, there's also something to be said about albums that sell 5 million copies vs. albums that don't. Especially when it comes down to any singles after, say, #4. Taylor manages to have hit singles and sell between 4 and 7 million copies of an album... whereas Katy has had more singles success while selling fewer albums (in general).  Teenage Dream sold well in the US with 3m - but its an interesting specimen when we look at other A-list albums with similar singles success.  There's this mysterious phenomenon that makes some acts singles artists, some album artists, and some both.

But Wildest Dreams was a hit, and it's not like a huge number of people bought her album in the timeframe between single #5 and single #6 to justify OOTW underperforming.

Right, Wildest Dreams clearly connected with more of the public than Out of the Woods...fans would go on about OotW being this transcendent experience and one of Taylor's best songs ever, and I'm going A sixth single does have era fatigue and album sales to compete against but some songs will go over better than others.