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Post by carreramd on Feb 20, 2016 18:47:59 GMT -5
But Wildest Dreams was a hit, and it's not like a huge number of people bought her album in the timeframe between single #5 and single #6 to justify OOTW underperforming. Right, Wildest Dreams clearly connected with more of the public than Out of the Woods...fans would go on about OotW being this transcendent experience and one of Taylor's best songs ever, and I'm going  A sixth single does have era fatigue and album sales to compete against but some songs will go over better than others. She posted yesterday that New Romantics will be the next single. Probably the last one. But I was thinking Wildest Dreams was the last since she released it. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 20, 2016 19:15:23 GMT -5
But Wildest Dreams was a hit, and it's not like a huge number of people bought her album in the timeframe between single #5 and single #6 to justify OOTW underperforming. Right, Wildest Dreams clearly connected with more of the public than Out of the Woods...fans would go on about OotW being this transcendent experience and one of Taylor's best songs ever, and I'm going A sixth single does have era fatigue and album sales to compete against but some songs will go over better than others. Yeah considering "WD" has stayed ahead of "OOTW" in most measures, it shows that it's more about people not feeling "OOTW" than it being a 6th single (i.e. if fatigue had set in, then "WD" should have fallen hard). Personally "OOTW" is easily one of my favorite Swift songs ever, but it's clear to me it hasn't been received well in a general sense. |
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Post by NeRD on Feb 20, 2016 19:20:59 GMT -5
Some sources have started distinguishing records in terms of being the lead artist, and to that end Rihanna has a ways to go to catch Mariah. Even if "Work" hits #1, that would 'only' put her at 11 #1s as a lead artist. Billboard doesn't so she'll have 14 :) |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 20, 2016 20:48:42 GMT -5
Some sources have started distinguishing records in terms of being the lead artist, and to that end Rihanna has a ways to go to catch Mariah. Even if "Work" hits #1, that would 'only' put her at 11 #1s as a lead artist. Billboard doesn't so she'll have 14 :) That isn't exactly true. Billboard has long given fewer chart points in things like "Hot 100 Artist of the Year" to a featured act, so they have distinguished between lead artist and a featured artist for years. Apart from that they have made distinctions between a lead artist and a featured artist when mentioning other chart records/milestones. Some examples: |
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Post by ry4n on Feb 20, 2016 20:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by Raccoon on Feb 20, 2016 23:29:48 GMT -5
New Romantics will most likely be a top 5 for her. Vary radio friendly and if she puts out a video streaming shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by Raccoon on Feb 20, 2016 23:30:14 GMT -5
Anyone know where Let it Go and Make Me Like You will be on the chart this week?
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Feb 20, 2016 23:40:24 GMT -5
New Romantics will most likely be a top 5 for her. Vary radio friendly and if she puts out a video streaming shouldn't be an issue. It's supposed to be "very" radio friendly instead of "vary". Another typo detected! I'm so happy! |
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Post by jarhys on Feb 20, 2016 23:40:51 GMT -5
New Romantics will most likely be a top 5 for her. Vary radio friendly and if she puts out a video streaming shouldn't be an issue. Hopefully it won't be a concert video like Red's. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Feb 20, 2016 23:42:45 GMT -5
Anyway, why would she release 7 singles in one single album without a re-release? Are there a lot of precedents?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 23:47:20 GMT -5
New Romantics will most likely be a top 5 for her. Vary radio friendly and if she puts out a video streaming shouldn't be an issue. I sure hope it will be. I like it a lot more than Out Of The Woods. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 23:49:17 GMT -5
Anyway, why would she release 7 singles in one single album without a re-release? Are there a lot of precedents? Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 1814 Michael Jackson - Thriller Bruce Springsteen - Born In the USA They were all original albums that had 7 singles - all of which reached the top 10. Michael Jackson - Bad also had 7 singles. One of them peaked outside the top 10 at #11. Not too shabby, but painful!!! |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Feb 20, 2016 23:52:39 GMT -5
Anyway, why would she release 7 singles in one single album without a re-release? Are there a lot of precedents? Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 1814 Michael Jackson - Bad Bruce Springsteen - Born In the USA They all had 7 top 10 singles. Such a shame that OUT OF THE WOODS didn't debut in the top 10... Thanks to the pre-order reduction (and of course the facepalm video that's just so much fun to watch her running!), it peaked at #18 once and for all... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 23:56:51 GMT -5
Yeah, the OOTW video had a lot of potential but failed to have a durable plot for repeated viewings. It should/could have been a mini-movie type video. A battle sequence, more characters, etc. Well shot, but too under developed. It was halfway there.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Feb 21, 2016 0:00:22 GMT -5
On the topic of 1989, here's my ranking of the 6 singles and videos (from the best to the worst)
Singles:
1. Style
B
2. Shake It Off
B-
3. Blank Space
C+
4. Wildest Dreams
D
5. Out of the Woods
D
6. Bad Blood (Remix)
D-
Videos:
1. Bad Blood (Remix)
2. Style
Funny how I like this video so much even though it got problems
3. Blank Space
4. Shake It Off
5. Wildest Dreams
6. Out of the Woods
It's just...cheap
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Feb 21, 2016 0:22:44 GMT -5
If we're doing this:
PERFECT:
Style
GREAT:
Blank Space
Wildest Dreams
Out of the Woods
GOOD:
Shake It Off
Bad Blood (Remix)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 0:24:51 GMT -5
GREAT:
Style
Blank Space
Wildest Dreams
GOOD:
Out of the Woods
Bad Blood (Remix)
OK:
Shake It Off
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 0:26:13 GMT -5
I think Shake It Off and Bad Blood are my least favorite. I get their appeal - they aren't bad - but meh. They are my least favorite lyrically, by far. Bad Blood is the worst, if I must say. I don't like the chorus at all - nor the sing-songy verses.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Feb 21, 2016 0:27:20 GMT -5
I think Shake It Off and Bad Blood are my least favorite. I get their appeal - they aren't bad - but meh. They are my least favorite lyrically, by far. Bad Blood is the worst, if I must say. I don't like the chorus at all. Twinsies.  I do like Shake It Off and Bad Blood, but they are also my bottom 2 from the era. |
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Post by Future Captain on Feb 21, 2016 0:29:36 GMT -5
PERFECT:
Blank Space
GREAT:
Wildest Dreams
Shake It Off
Style
OKAY:
Bad Blood
Out of the Woods
New Romantics is great.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 0:55:02 GMT -5
My opinion:
Great:
Shake It Off
Style
Wildest Dreams
New Romantics
Bad Blood
Good:
Out Of The Woods
Great but burned out:
Blank Space
I agree with THINKING BOUT YOU about the Bad Blood video being the most badass of them all. It's what helped get the song to #1 on the Hot 100 (as well as my personal chart). I rarely watch music videos more than once but I couldn't resist with Bad Blood lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 1:02:23 GMT -5
I'm not a New Romantics fan. It's annoying to me. I'd be way more in favor of All You Had To Do Was Stay, I Wish You Would, How You Get the Girl, or even Clean (which I LOVE). I'm an Imogen fan of many years. But yeah... I know NR is a big fan favorite for whatever reason - but I'm on the fan favorite team of OOTW by FAR over NR.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 1:02:45 GMT -5
the off topic of it all! haha!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 1:03:54 GMT -5
So... it's easy to say LY will be #1 again come Monday, but does the race look like next week? Any early predictions?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 1:09:49 GMT -5
I'm not a New Romantics fan. It's annoying to me. I'd be way more in favor of All You Had To Do Was Stay, I Wish You Would, How You Get the Girl, or even Clean (which I LOVE). I'm an Imogen fan of many years. But yeah... I know NR is a big fan favorite for whatever reason - but I'm on the fan favorite team of OOTW by FAR over NR. I love Wonderland (the song, though I quite like the amusement park as well)! I would've been very happy with that as the 7th single. So... it's easy to say LY will be #1 again come Monday, but does the race look like next week? Any early predictions? I think Work will be #3 (maybe #2) this week with a high probability to be #1 on the 3/12 issue (unless streaming takes a plunge this week) |
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Post by carreramd on Feb 21, 2016 2:53:18 GMT -5
My opinion: SINGLES 1. Style 2. Out Of The Woods 3. Blank Space 4. Wildest Dreams 5. Shake It Off 6. Bad Blood VIDEOS 1. Blank Space 2. Style 3. Out Of The Woods 4. Bad Blood 5. Wildest Dreams 6. Shake It Off OOTW, Style and BS are the perfect singles of 1989, in my opinion. Videos: 2. Style Funny how I like this video so much even though it got problems Which problems? |
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Post by carreramd on Feb 21, 2016 2:55:19 GMT -5
By the way, New Romantics will have a video and it won't be like Red or Sparks Fly. The director tweeted about it...
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Post by ry4n on Feb 21, 2016 11:19:27 GMT -5
Top 10 flashbacks for this week
1 year ago (3/7/2015)
1 1 Uptown Funk! - Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars (8th week of 14)
2 2 Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran
3 6 Love Me Like You Do - Ellie Goulding
4 5 Sugar - Maroon 5
5 3 Take Me To Church - Hozier
6 4 FourFiveSeconds - Rihanna, Kanye West & Paul McCartney
7 7 Blank Space - Taylor Swift
8 10 Style - Taylor Swift
9 12 Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey) - The Weeknd
10 9 Lips Are Movin' - Meghan Trainor
5 years ago (3/5/2011)
1 1 Born This Way - Lady Gaga (2nd week of 6)
2 7 F**k/Forget You! - Cee Lo Green
3 3 Grenade - Bruno Mars
4 32 I Need A Doctor - Dr Dre feat. Eminem & Skylar Grey
5 2 Firework - Katy Perry
6 5 F**kin' Perfect - P!nk
7 8 S&M - Rihanna
8 25 Never Say Never - Justin Bieber feat. Jaden Smith
9 6 Tonight (I'm F**kin'/Lovin' You) - Enrique Iglesias feat. Ludacris & DJ Frank E
10 4 Black And Yellow - Wiz Khalifa
10 years ago (3/4/2006)
1 1 Check On It - Beyonce feat. Slim Thug (5th and final week)
2 2 You're Beautiful - James Blunt
3 3 Grillz - Nelly feat. Paul Wall, Ali & Gipp
4 8 Temperature - Sean Paul
5 4 Be Without You - Mary J Blige
6 5 I'm N Luv (Wit A Stripper) - T-Pain feat. Mike Jones
7 9 Yo (Excuse Me Miss) - Chris Brown
8 7 So Sick - Ne-Yo
9 11 Unwritten - Natasha Bedingfield
10 6 Shake That - Eminem feat. Nate Dogg
13 24 Stupid Girls - P!nk
15 years ago (3/3/2001)
1 1 Stutter - Joe feat. Mystikal (2nd week of 4)
2 2 It Wasn't Me - Shaggy feat. RikRok
3 3 Love Don't Cost A Thing - Jennifer Lopez
4 4 Again - Lenny Kravitz
5 7 Angel - Shaggy feat. Rayvon
6 6 Don't Tell Me - Madonna
7 5 Ms. Jackson - Outkast
8 8 If You're Gone - Matchbox 20
9 9 Put It On Me - Ja Rule feat. Lil Mo & Vita
10 11 He Loves You Not - Dream
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Post by Soulsista on Feb 21, 2016 11:52:53 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
March 7, 1981
01 01 I Love a Rainy Night - Eddie Rabbitt (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 9 To 5 - Dolly Parton
03 03 Woman - John Lennon
04 05 Keep On Loving You - REO Speedwagon
05 06 The Best Of Times - Styx
06 04 Celebration - Kool & The Gang
07 11 Crying - Don McLean
08 08 Giving It Up For Your Love - Delbert McClinton
09 10 The Winner Takes It All - ABBA
10 14 Hello Again - Neil Diamond
March 8, 1986
01 01 Kyrie - Mr. Mister (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Sara - Starship
03 02 How Will I Know - Whitney Houston
04 10 These Dreams - Heart
05 09 Secret Lovers - Atlantic Starr
06 08 Silent Running - Mike & The Mechanics
07 05 The Sweetest Taboo - Sade
08 04 Living In America - James Brown
09 07 Life In a Northern Town - The Dream Academy
10 12 King For a Day - The Thompson Twins
March 9, 1991
01 02 Someday - Mariah Carey (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 03 One More Try - Timmy T
03 01 All The Man That I Need - Whitney Houston
04 04 Where Does My Heart Beat Now - Celine Dion
05 07 Show Me The Way - Styx
06 08 All This Time - Sting
07 05 Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) - C&C Music Factory
08 13 This House - Tracie Spencer
09 10 Coming Out Of The Dark - Gloria Estefan
10 06 Wicked Game - Chris Isaak
March 2, 1996
01 01 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (14th of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Not Gon' Cry - Mary J. Blige
03 05 Sittin' Up In My Room - Brandy
04 04 Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project
05 03 Missing - Everything But The Girl
06 06 Be My Lover - La Bouche
07 07 Jesus To a Child - George Michael
08 08 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston
09 09 One Of Us - Joan Osborne
10 11 Follow You Down / 'Til I Hear It From You - Gin Blossoms
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Post by Soulsista on Feb 21, 2016 12:10:13 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
February 27, 1961 (for the week ending March 4)
01 04 Pony Time - Chubby Checker (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Calcutta - Lawrence Welk
03 05 There's a Moon Out Tonight - The Capris
04 24 Surrender - Elvis Presley
05 15 Don't Worry - Marty Robbins
06 09 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Shirelles
07 11 Where The Boys Are - Connie Francis
08 02 Shop Around - The Miracles
09 18 Ebony Eyes - The Everly Brothers
10 10 Wheels - The String-A-Longs
March 5, 1966
01 03 Ballad Of The Green Berets - Sgt. Barry Sadler (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 01 These Boots Are Made For Walkin' - Nancy Sinatra
03 02 Lightnin' Strikes - Lou Christie
04 13 Listen People - Herman's Hermits
05 08 California Dreamin' - The Mamas & The Papas
06 09 Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind
07 06 My Love - Petula Clark
08 04 Uptight (Everything's Alright) - Stevie Wonder
09 10 Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
10 05 My World Is Empty Without You - The Supremes
March 6, 1971
01 01 One Bad Apple - The Osmonds (4th of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Mama's Pearl - The Jackson Five
03 10 Me & Bobby McGee - Janis Joplin
04 16 Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me) - The Temptations
05 05 If You Could Read My Mind - Gordon Lightfoot
06 17 She's a Lady - Tom Jones
07 12 For All We Know - The Carpenters
08 08 Amos Moses - Jerry Reed
09 09 Mr. Bojangles - The Nitty Gritty Dirty Band
10 07 Sweet Mary - Wadsworth Mansion
March 6, 1976
01 03 Love Machine - The Miracles (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 All By Myself - Eric Carmen
03 05 December 1963 (Oh, What a Night) - The Four Seasons
04 01 Theme From S.W.A.T. - The Rhythm Heritage
05 07 Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
06 08 Dream Weaver - Gary Wright
07 09 Lonely Night - The Captain & Tennille
08 02 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover - Paul Simon
09 10 Love Hurts - Nazareth
10 06 You Sexy Thing - Hot Chocolate
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A sixth single does have era fatigue and album sales to compete against but some songs will go over better than others.
