Disturbed - "The Sound Of Silence"

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 1, 2016 7:21:42 GMT -5 H. said:

Mar 27, 2016 23:12:58 GMT -5 Green Baron said:

If this was just credited as David Draiman, would that make it more successful?

Yeah pop has something against actual bands.

Unless they're hipsters, that is, or at least admired by hipsters. And by hipsters I generally mean effete, metrosexual Millennials in major metropolitan areas, just to make things clear.

Anyway, "The Sound Of Silence" moved from #51 last week to #49 in its seventh week on the Billboard Hot 100, and it still has a bullet. Baltimore, New Orleans and San Francisco are among the markets with Top 40 stations playing this song. Here's hoping that the Active Rock airplay holds relatively steady as the Top 40 airplay increases. We've been long overdue for another Active Rock crossover to Top 40, because I'm sick and tired of Top 40 radio ignoring bands with loud guitars and aggressive vocals. Not every goddamn pop song has to be hip and happy, but that's all we've gotten lately. It's all been "Grande Bieber Swift," hipster rock, hip-hop and EDM. Don't get me wrong; there's plenty of pop music that I like, but it shouldn't have such a narrow focus. The last #1 song on the Mediabase Active Rock chart to appear anywhere in the top 50 of the Mediabase CHR chart was "Burn It Down" by Linkin Park, during the summer and early fall of 2012. There's been absolutely nothing since, and that has to change.

Here's hoping Disturbed kick the door down for more Active Rock bands to start crossing over to the Top 40 again. If loud guitars and aggressive vocals were good enough to become big hits from 1965-2010, then I don't see why it's not good enough for Top 40 radio now. KICK SOME ASS, DISTURBED!!!

[thatchos]

Gets one more add this week.

I've ran into at least one person who's praised this song.

Maybe this could make an impact…

[jred]

?? ?? DISTURBED The Sound Of Silence 199 149 50 0.987

iTunes: #13

[Enigma.]

This is a pop hit waiting to happen too. It will become too popular to be ignored by top 40 radio. It's also success in Europe.

[Future Captain]

Apr 12, 2016 18:27:58 GMT -5 craziaskowboi said:

Apr 1, 2016 7:21:42 GMT -5 H. said:

Yeah pop has something against actual bands.

Unless they're hipsters, that is, or at least admired by hipsters. And by hipsters I generally mean effete, metrosexual Millennials in major metropolitan areas, just to make things clear.

Anyway, "The Sound Of Silence" moved from #51 last week to #49 in its seventh week on the Billboard Hot 100, and it still has a bullet. Baltimore, New Orleans and San Francisco are among the markets with Top 40 stations playing this song. Here's hoping that the Active Rock airplay holds relatively steady as the Top 40 airplay increases. We've been long overdue for another Active Rock crossover to Top 40, because I'm sick and tired of Top 40 radio ignoring bands with loud guitars and aggressive vocals. Not every goddamn pop song has to be hip and happy, but that's all we've gotten lately. It's all been "Grande Bieber Swift," hipster rock, hip-hop and EDM. Don't get me wrong; there's plenty of pop music that I like, but it shouldn't have such a narrow focus. The last #1 song on the Mediabase Active Rock chart to appear anywhere in the top 50 of the Mediabase CHR chart was "Burn It Down" by Linkin Park, during the summer and early fall of 2012. There's been absolutely nothing since, and that has to change.

Here's hoping Disturbed kick the door down for more Active Rock bands to start crossing over to the Top 40 again. If loud guitars and aggressive vocals were good enough to become big hits from 1965-2010, then I don't see why it's not good enough for Top 40 radio now. KICK SOME ASS, DISTURBED!!!

One problem: This is only an Active hit because of Disturbed's name and the growly vocals at the end. Otherwise, this is basically a Josh Groban-ish take on the original. This doesn't even have loud guitar.

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 17, 2016 22:13:03 GMT -5 Future Captain said:

Apr 12, 2016 18:27:58 GMT -5 craziaskowboi said:

Unless they're hipsters, that is, or at least admired by hipsters. And by hipsters I generally mean effete, metrosexual Millennials in major metropolitan areas, just to make things clear.

Anyway, "The Sound Of Silence" moved from #51 last week to #49 in its seventh week on the Billboard Hot 100, and it still has a bullet. Baltimore, New Orleans and San Francisco are among the markets with Top 40 stations playing this song. Here's hoping that the Active Rock airplay holds relatively steady as the Top 40 airplay increases. We've been long overdue for another Active Rock crossover to Top 40, because I'm sick and tired of Top 40 radio ignoring bands with loud guitars and aggressive vocals. Not every goddamn pop song has to be hip and happy, but that's all we've gotten lately. It's all been "Grande Bieber Swift," hipster rock, hip-hop and EDM. Don't get me wrong; there's plenty of pop music that I like, but it shouldn't have such a narrow focus. The last #1 song on the Mediabase Active Rock chart to appear anywhere in the top 50 of the Mediabase CHR chart was "Burn It Down" by Linkin Park, during the summer and early fall of 2012. There's been absolutely nothing since, and that has to change.

Here's hoping Disturbed kick the door down for more Active Rock bands to start crossing over to the Top 40 again. If loud guitars and aggressive vocals were good enough to become big hits from 1965-2010, then I don't see why it's not good enough for Top 40 radio now. KICK SOME ASS, DISTURBED!!!

One problem: This is only an Active hit because of Disturbed's name and the growly vocals at the end. Otherwise, this is basically a Josh Groban-ish take on the original. This doesn't even have loud guitar.

A couple of things:


1. If Disturbed's name is the only thing that matters, then seeing their name on the precipice of the Top 40 (up from #49 to #42 on the Billboard Hot 100) is still very significant, regardless of the sound of the song.

2. On the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart, "The Sound Of Silence" supplanted "State Of My Head" at #1, so that's two not-so-heavy songs in a row topping that chart. Not every chart-topper is going to sound like "Wash It All Away."

3. I'm not expecting songs like "Wash It All Away" to cross over to Top 40; some songs are just too heavy for Top 40 radio regardless. But there's no reason for more radio-friendly songs like "State Of My Head" to be shunned like they have been for the last five years or so.

4. It's the more pop-friendly songs by rock bands that grow the audiences for those bands. It worked for bands like Green Day, Linkin Park and Shinedown, and it can work for Disturbed as well.

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 17, 2016 5:51:58 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

This is a pop hit waiting to happen too. It will become too popular to be ignored by top 40 radio. It's also success in Europe.

Well Europeans still get to listen to rock music on the radio, unlike many people here in the U.S. In the last five years, rock music has disappeared from the Top 40, and many rock stations have been flipped to other formats. If Disturbed enters the Top 40 here in the U.S. ("The Sound Of Silence" just moved up from #49 to #42), then that'll be huge, because it will have gone square against the trends in American radio during the last five years to do so. Only in the last few weeks have any Top 40 stations even dared to give "The Sound Of Silence" any spins, so the success of the song so far has been largely in spite of radio, not because of it. If Top 40 radio gets on board with an actual rock song for a change, then we'll have our first rock song in the Top 40 since 2012. (No, The Lumineers, Mumford & Sons, Capital Cities and Lorde don't count, and neither do any musicians similar to them.)

[Deleted]

I too am thinking this will pick up some substantial steam at Pop. I'm sure programmers are like CRAP, REALLY? But it's getting harder and harder to avoid it.

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 19, 2016 16:57:11 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

I too am thinking this will pick up some substantial steam at Pop. I'm sure programmers are like CRAP, REALLY? But it's getting harder and harder to avoid it.

I can picture a radio programmer cowering in the corner, crying, "No, please NO!" and holding his hands and arms up in a futile attempt to shield himself from the grisly-looking Disturbed mascot, and then the chorus of "The Vengeful One" cranking up as the mascot goes in for the kill: "I'M THE HAND OF GODDD!!! I'M THE DARK MESSIAH!!! I'M THE VENGEFUL OOONNNEEE!!!"

:O

[tekkenguy]

I got a feeling this will be "Let It Go"'d. Even when you get past the CHR bias against rock, David's voice just doesn't sound like it would be on pop radio.

Anyway, here are some Active Rock hits that I think could have crossed over if pop radio didn't shut the door on the genre:
-Hesitate (Stone Sour)
-Riptide (Sick Puppies)
-Tonight (Seether)
-Here And Now (Seether)
-I Miss The Misery (Halestorm)
-Here's to Us (Halestorm)
-Unity (Shinedown)
-So Far Away (A7X)
-Hurricane (Theory of a Deadman)
-Heaven Knows (Pretty Reckless)
-Torn To Pieces (Pop Evil)
-Words As Weapons (Seether)
-Theres No Going Back (Sick Puppies)
-Angel (Theory of a Deadman)
-Beautiful (POD)
-Room to Breathe (YMA6)
-Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart (Cornell)
-Otherside (Red Sun Rising)
-Footsteps (Pop Evil)
-State of My Head (Shinedown)

Any others I'm missing?

[nick64]

Apr 19, 2016 17:58:06 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

I got a feeling this will be "Let It Go"'d. Even when you get past the CHR bias against rock, David's voice just doesn't sound like it would be on pop radio.

Anyway, here are some Active Rock hits that I think could have crossed over if pop radio didn't shut the door on the genre:
-Hesitate (Stone Sour)
-Riptide (Sick Puppies)
-Tonight (Seether)
-Here And Now (Seether)
-I Miss The Misery (Halestorm)
-Here's to Us (Halestorm)
-Unity (Shinedown)
-So Far Away (A7X)
-Hurricane (Theory of a Deadman)
-Heaven Knows (Pretty Reckless)
-Torn To Pieces (Pop Evil)
-Words As Weapons (Seether)
-Theres No Going Back (Sick Puppies)
-Angel (Theory of a Deadman)
-Beautiful (POD)
-Room to Breathe (YMA6)
-Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart (Cornell)
-Otherside (Red Sun Rising)
-Footsteps (Pop Evil)
-State of My Head (Shinedown)

Any others I'm missing?

Breaking Benjamin's latest singles probably would've been able to smash if this was 2006 so I'd say those.

[Daryl the Beryl]

Seether - Save Today
3 Doors Down - When You're Young, Every Time You Go
Three Days Grace - Fallen Angel, The High Road, Lost in You

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 19, 2016 17:58:06 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

I got a feeling this will be "Let It Go"'d. Even when you get past the CHR bias against rock, David's voice just doesn't sound like it would be on pop radio.

Anyway, here are some Active Rock hits that I think could have crossed over if pop radio didn't shut the door on the genre:
-Hesitate (Stone Sour)
-Riptide (Sick Puppies)
-Tonight (Seether)
-Here And Now (Seether)
-I Miss The Misery (Halestorm)
-Here's to Us (Halestorm)
-Unity (Shinedown)
-So Far Away (A7X)
-Hurricane (Theory of a Deadman)
-Heaven Knows (Pretty Reckless)
-Torn To Pieces (Pop Evil)
-Words As Weapons (Seether)
-Theres No Going Back (Sick Puppies)
-Angel (Theory of a Deadman)
-Beautiful (POD)
-Room to Breathe (YMA6)
-Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart (Cornell)
-Otherside (Red Sun Rising)
-Footsteps (Pop Evil)
-State of My Head (Shinedown)

Any others I'm missing?

Those songs plus these are ones that I think would have at least charted on the Billboard Hot 100 for more than one week:


"The Sex Is Good" - Saving Abel
"Awake And Alive" - Skillet
"Country Song" - Seether
"Lies Of The Beautiful People" - Sixx: A.M.
"Lowlife" - Theory Of A Deadman
"What You Want" - Evanescence
"Bottoms Up" - Nickelback
"Face To The Floor" - Chevelle
"Bully" - Shinedown
"These Days" - Foo Fighters
"Bullet In My Hand" - Redlight King
"I Like It" - Foxy Shazam
"Boss' Daughter" - Pop Evil
"Sorry" - Art Of Dying
"Criticize" - Adelitas Way
"One Light" - 3 Doors Down
"Heaven Nor Hell" - Volbeat
"Trenches" - Pop Evil
"Leader Of The Broken Hearts" - Papa Roach
"Voices" - Alice In Chains
"Lola Montez" - Volbeat
"Deal With The Devil" - Pop Evil
"Tired" - Stone Sour
"Immortal" - Eve To Adam
"Weak" - Seether
"Guilty All The Same" - Linkin Park f. Rakim
"Drown" - Theory Of A Deadman
"This Is The Time (Ballast)" - Nothing More
"My Demons" - Starset
"Edge Of A Revolution" - Nickelback
"Figure It Out" - Royal Blood
"Beautiful" - Pop Evil
"Million Miles An Hour" - Nickelback
"Same Damn Life" - Seether
"Moving On" - Asking Alexandria
"I Want Out" - Young Guns
"Absolution Calling" - Incubus
"Coming For You" - The Offspring
"Failure" - Breaking Benjamin
"Nobody Praying For Me" - Seether
"Gravity" - Papa Roach
"Ways To Get High" - Pop Evil
"In The Dark" - 3 Doors Down
"Emotionless" - Red Sun Rising

[Enigma.]

Paramore's Still Into You did pretty well on pop but maybe that doesn't count here. They are a rock band anyway, only with slightly different profile.

[dm2081]

Alice In Chains - Your Decision
Linkin Park & Steve Aoki - A Light That Never Comes
Papa Roach - Leader of the Broken Hears
Papa Roach - Gravity
Volbeat - Fallen

Just a couple of other Active-leaning songs I think could have been decent Pop hits if given a chance.

[jred]

Foo Fighters - Walk
Pearl Jam - Sirens
Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know?
Weezer - Back To The Shack

I think those four could have done something decent on Pop as well.

[Juan Carlos]

Impacts on May 3 according to AllAccess.

[maine]

Awesome. I wonder if this can help bring rock back to the pop charts. It's a stretch, but it has been a long time coming.

When is the last time a song from Active actually had an active push to CHR?

[nick64]

Apr 20, 2016 14:49:28 GMT -5 maine said:

Awesome. I wonder if this can help bring rock back to the pop charts. It's a stretch, but it has been a long time coming.

When is the last time a song from Active actually had an active push to CHR?

Linkin Park's "Burn It Down" in 2012.

[maine]

Apr 20, 2016 14:57:32 GMT -5 nick64 said:

Apr 20, 2016 14:49:28 GMT -5 maine said:

Awesome. I wonder if this can help bring rock back to the pop charts. It's a stretch, but it has been a long time coming.

When is the last time a song from Active actually had an active push to CHR?

Linkin Park's "Burn It Down" in 2012.

Yes, technically, but I was wondering exclusively Active. "Burn It Down" was more of an Alternative hit than it was on Active. 

[nick64]

Apr 20, 2016 15:08:04 GMT -5 maine said:

Apr 20, 2016 14:57:32 GMT -5 nick64 said:

Linkin Park's "Burn It Down" in 2012.

Yes, technically, but I was wondering exclusively Active. "Burn It Down" was more of an Alternative hit than it was on Active. 

I wouldn't say more so, since it was a two week #1 on both, but in terms of something being a clearly bigger hit on Active than Alt, you'd have to go back to Shinedown's "If You Only Knew".

ETA: If you wanna go back even farther to the point where something wasn't even a moderate Alt hit, the last example I can find is Nickelback's "Rockstar".

[maine]

Apr 20, 2016 15:26:42 GMT -5 nick64 said:

Apr 20, 2016 15:08:04 GMT -5 maine said:

Yes, technically, but I was wondering exclusively Active. "Burn It Down" was more of an Alternative hit than it was on Active. 

I wouldn't say more so, since it was a two week #1 on both, but in terms of something being a clearly bigger hit on Active than Alt, you'd have to go back to Shinedown's "If You Only Knew".

ETA: If you wanna go back even farther to the point where something wasn't even a moderate Alt hit, the last example I can find is Nickelback's "Rockstar".

Oh, I thought "Burn It Down" was like a 9 week #1 on Alt haha. 

Yeah, the last one I could think of was "If You Only Knew". 

[Green Baron]

This doesn't feel like a summer song at all, but stranger things have happened.

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 20, 2016 16:57:53 GMT -5 Green Baron said:

This doesn't feel like a summer song at all, but stranger things have happened.

Here's a list of "sad" summer hits since 2000:


"Everything You Want" - Vertical Horizon
(#1 in July 2000)

"Incomplete" - Sisquo
(#1 in August 2000)

"All Or Nothing" - O-Town
(#3 in July 2001)

"Fallin'" - Alicia Keys
(#1 in August 2001)

"Hero" - Chad Kroeger f. Josey Scott
(#3 in July 2002)

"Unwell" - Matchbox Twenty
(#5 in July 2003)

"Where Is The Love?" - The Black Eyed Peas
(#8 in August 2003)

"The Reason" - Hoobastank
(#2 in June 2004)

"Behind These Hazel Eyes" - Kelly Clarkson
(#6 in June 2005)

"Listen To Your Heart" - DHT
(#8 in August 2005)

"Where'd You Go" - Fort Minor f. Holly Brook & Jonah Matranga
(#4 in June 2006)

"Unfaithful" - Rihanna
(#6 in July 2006)

"Home" - Daughtry
(#5 in June 2007)

"Big Girls Don't Cry" - Fergie
(#1 in September 2007)

"Second Chance" - Shinedown
(#7 in June 2009)

"Battlefield" - Jordin Sparks
(#10 in August 2009)

"Love The Way You Lie" - Eminim f. Rihanna
(#1 in July 2010)

"Good Life" - OneRepublic
(#8 in July 2011)

"Someone Like You" - Adele
(#1 in September 2011)

"Wide Awake" - Katy Perry
(#2 in August 2012)


And those are just the top-10 hits. Given this, I don't think it's unreasonable for "The Sound Of Silence" to have moderate success on the pop charts during the summer of 2016. All that's needed is an open mind by pop music directors.

[Deleted]

A shame this has less than 10 million via Radio. :(

[craziaskowboi]

Apr 20, 2016 8:28:19 GMT -5 dm2081 said:

Alice In Chains - Your Decision
Linkin Park & Steve Aoki - A Light That Never Comes
Papa Roach - Leader of the Broken Hears
Papa Roach - Gravity
Volbeat - Fallen

Just a couple of other Active-leaning songs I think could have been decent Pop hits if given a chance.

"A Light That Never Comes" is a great song. I still listen to it regularly, actually.  Officially, however, it's an alternative song rather than a regular rock song, because it never charted on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart, but it reached #7 on their Alternative chart at Christmastime in 2013.

[dm2081]

Apr 25, 2016 5:31:05 GMT -5 craziaskowboi said:

Apr 20, 2016 8:28:19 GMT -5 dm2081 said:

Alice In Chains - Your Decision
Linkin Park & Steve Aoki - A Light That Never Comes
Papa Roach - Leader of the Broken Hears
Papa Roach - Gravity
Volbeat - Fallen

Just a couple of other Active-leaning songs I think could have been decent Pop hits if given a chance.

"A Light That Never Comes" is a great song. I still listen to it regularly, actually.  Officially, however, it's an alternative song rather than a regular rock song, because it never charted on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart, but it reached #7 on their Alternative chart at Christmastime in 2013.

It's pretty heavy sounding though, which is what I was mostly getting at.  I don't need Active only leaning songs, but rather heavier sounds in general.

[Nyte]

Apr 20, 2016 8:28:19 GMT -5 dm2081 said:

Alice In Chains - Your Decision
Linkin Park & Steve Aoki - A Light That Never Comes
Papa Roach - Leader of the Broken Hears
Papa Roach - Gravity
Volbeat - Fallen

Just a couple of other Active-leaning songs I think could have been decent Pop hits if given a chance.

Gravity by Papa Roach definitely would've smashed had things been like they were in the early-00s. It's very reminiscent of that era to me.

Another one people forgot:

Linkin Park - Lost in the Echo

It sounds like an older LP song, but more electronic. LP had no problem crossing over back then, and they would've done it now had CHR not closed the door on them.

[craziaskowboi]

Prince has single-handedly kept Disturbed from achieving their first Top 40 hit, at least for this week. "The Sound Of Silence" was pushed from #42 down to #46, with six Prince songs above it, reentering at #17, #20, #28, #29, #39 and #41. If not for Prince, Disturbed would be at #40.

The good news is, "The Sound Of Silence" still has a bullet, so hopefully it'll go Top 40 next week after Prince's songs begin to fall. One thing that might help Disturbed is that Prince's chart reentries are powered mostly by radio airplay and paid downloads. His music is not available on most streaming services.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for another week.

[tekkenguy]

Not next week, sadly, as Prince's domination will be even greater, plus they'll have to deal with Beyonce's new songs. And Drake could be standing in their way the week after that. If it can hold on for three weeks then it'll be fine.