Billboard Hot 100: 06/25/2016

[Dylan :)]

They're playing One Last Time Oh, no, it's because Emily is leaving Billboard for Spotify :'(

#79 Kiiara - Gold
#52 Selena Gomez - Kill Em With Kindness (SG)
#47 Ariana Grande - Into You
#46 Flume feat. Kai - Never Be Like You
#34 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better
#33 Drake feat. Rihanna - Too Good (bullets)
#31 Meghan Trainor - Me Too
#20 Zayn - Pillowtalk
#18 DJ Khaled feat. Drake - For Free
#15 Twenty One Pilots - Ride
#14 Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman
#13 Sia - Cheap Thrills
#11 Kent Jones - Don't Mind

#10 P!NK - Just Like Fire
#9 Rihanna - Needed Me (up to #3 on streaming)
#8 Mike Posner - I Took A Pill In Ibiza
#7 Calvin Harris // Rihanna - This Is What You Came For (most top tens on Radio Songs)
#6 Lukas Graham - 7 Years
#5 Fifth Harmony feat. Ty Dolla $ign - Work From Home
#4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down (#1 on Dance/Electronic Songs)
#3 Justin Timberlake - Can't Stop The Feeling! (#1 on Radio + Digital Songs, #1 for 5 weeks on Digital Songs tying his best with Sexy Back)
#2 Desiigner - Panda
#1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance

[jebsib]

westlifefan4eva, you are looking for 11/1/80, 2/7/81, 4/23/83, 9/1/84, 4/13/85. The artists who had two simultaneous top 10s in the 80s were Diana Ross, John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Prince & Madonna. Not including the New Kids.

[Kurt]

Jeez, everyone's jumping ship from Billboard! I started stalking following a bunch of them in like 2012 and there are maybe three left from then (Gary, Keith, Silvio). :(

[jebsib]

^ Is Silvio still there? He's not listed in the Magazine anymore...

[Old-school 72]

Thank you but part of my post was asking what artists had 2 songs moving up the chart in the Top 10 not a new single and the previous in the top10 at same time.

[Deleted]

Jun 13, 2016 13:09:20 GMT -5 jebsib said:

westlifefan4eva, you are looking for 11/1/80, 2/7/81, 4/23/83, 9/1/84, 4/13/85. The artists who had two simultaneous top 10s in the 80s were Diana Ross, John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Prince & Madonna. Not including the New Kids.

Thank you for saving me the time.

Point being - in the digital age there are bound to be more examples compared to when singles were printed in certain quantities and released at different times.  If the 80s had digital availability, I'm sure there would have been a lot more examples.  The common thread is domination by big superstars in the prime of their careers.



 

[georgetherunner314]

Yay at Ride going top 20!!! And just before Stressed Out left the top 20 too! I'm also happy to see Don't Let Me Down reach a new peak. Unfortunately I think Work remains at #12.

[badrobot]

Sia! Wondering if this might actually end up out-peaking Chandelier?

[prenatt1166]

Jun 13, 2016 13:09:20 GMT -5 jebsib said:

westlifefan4eva, you are looking for 11/1/80, 2/7/81, 4/23/83, 9/1/84, 4/13/85. The artists who had two simultaneous top 10s in the 80s were Diana Ross, John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Prince & Madonna. Not including the New Kids.

A few more to complete the list:

12/13/80 Barbra Streisand
3/27/82 J. Geils Band
9/11/82 John Cougar (Mellencamp)

Also Prince did it twice in 1984 (9/1 and again on 10/20).

Jun 13, 2016 13:23:44 GMT -5 Old-school 72 said:

Thank you but part of my post was asking what artists had 2 songs moving up the chart in the Top 10 not a new single and the previous in the top10 at same time.

I could find only one example that is remotely even close to this during the 1980's. In August 1981, as Lionel Richie spent the second week of nine at number with Diana Ross and "Endless Love", he climbed from #11 to #10 as lead singer of The Commodores with "Lady (You Bring Me Up)".

[felipe]

Glad for Cheap Thrills. It seemed like it would never take off in the US.

[Kurt]

Jun 13, 2016 13:15:49 GMT -5 jebsib said:

^ Is Silvio still there? He's not listed in the Magazine anymore...

Just checked my 6/4 magazine and the credits are split into two pages now, and he's still listed on the first one (right after the table of contents, opposite a Sara Bareilles ad).

[Deleted]

I think Cheap Thrills could enter top 10 as soon as next week, with Needed Me dropping out
However, Don't Mind may ended up fighting it for the entrance

[jayhawk1117]

You know know streaming is lowkey ridiculous when the most played and downloaded song is only number 3.

[THINKIN BOUT YOU]

If Panda's as lucky as Work, it could've gotten its 8th week and would get 10+ weeks atop in comparison to the measly 2 weeks. But I don't like this song, so why would I care?

[Mike is BAD]

And the 69 cent songs are invading iTunes again, expect a "Try Everything" re-entry at a new peak. Also, I don't get why Christina Grimmie is not invading...after her death...getting shot...at age 22...

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Jun 13, 2016 17:29:01 GMT -5 Mike is BAD said:

And the 69 cent songs are invading iTunes again, expect a "Try Everything" re-entry at a new peak. Also, I don't get why Christina Grimmie is not invading...after her death...getting shot...at age 22...

I think the simplest answer is that not many people - relatively speaking - know her songs.  I know I don't.  I was curious so I sampled some of her stuff on iTunes.

She had a decent showing on iTunes throughout the top 1500, which is great.  Just nothing well-known enough to really make a huge splash in the upper rankings.

[Au$tin]

Jun 13, 2016 18:03:48 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jun 13, 2016 17:29:01 GMT -5 Mike is BAD said:

And the 69 cent songs are invading iTunes again, expect a "Try Everything" re-entry at a new peak. Also, I don't get why Christina Grimmie is not invading...after her death...getting shot...at age 22...

I think the simplest answer is that not many people - relatively speaking - know her songs.  I know I don't.  I was curious so I sampled some of her stuff on iTunes.

She had a decent showing on iTunes throughout the top 1500, which is great.  Just nothing well-known enough to really make a huge splash in the upper rankings.

Also, her death wasn't nearly as covered as the deaths of more well known musicians. Not to mention a day after her death was the nightclub shooting completely taking over the airwaves.

[Au$tin]

Jun 13, 2016 14:45:18 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

You know know streaming is lowkey ridiculous when the most played and downloaded song is only number 3.

Except you're forgetting the bigger picture. It's not like One Dance isn't right behind Justin on the other metrics. Justin may be #1 in sales and airplay, but his streaming is really low comparatively. Likewise, Drake is strong in all metrics.

Just think back to when Gangnam Style never got to #1. It was because it's airplay was nowhere near good enough to outdo the fact that One More Night was strong on all three metrics.

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Jun 13, 2016 18:10:39 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jun 13, 2016 14:45:18 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

You know know streaming is lowkey ridiculous when the most played and downloaded song is only number 3.

Except you're forgetting the bigger picture. It's not like One Dance isn't right behind Justin on the other metrics. Justin may be #1 in sales and airplay, but his streaming is really low comparatively. Likewise, Drake is strong in all metrics.

Just think back to when Gangnam Style never got to #1. It was because it's airplay was nowhere near good enough to outdo the fact that One More Night was strong on all three metrics.

And.... based on streaming's numbers in general, it's big. But how big is it really?  Figuring the formula for the metrics has gotta be so. damn. hard.

We are a society that is not used to big hits stemming from songs which most of us don't hear on the radio that much. They've always gone hand in hand, really. Panda is a perfect example of this change. I don't hear it on the radio, ever, and so I don't think to myself  "this is huge" but that's only because I never hear it. Clearly there are a lot of people who choose to listen to it, a lot.  So who am I?

[Golden Bluebird]

Jun 13, 2016 18:03:48 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jun 13, 2016 17:29:01 GMT -5 Mike is BAD said:

And the 69 cent songs are invading iTunes again, expect a "Try Everything" re-entry at a new peak. Also, I don't get why Christina Grimmie is not invading...after her death...getting shot...at age 22...

I think the simplest answer is that not many people - relatively speaking - know her songs.  I know I don't.  I was curious so I sampled some of her stuff on iTunes.

She had a decent showing on iTunes throughout the top 1500, which is great.  Just nothing well-known enough to really make a huge splash in the upper rankings.

There's also the fact that her death happened after the tracking period for this week's chart ended, so it wouldn't be possible for her songs to chart this week anyway. She could have a chance to chart next week but only a very small chance considering, as you said, she isn't that well-known.

[Deleted]

Jun 13, 2016 18:46:01 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

Jun 13, 2016 18:03:48 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

I think the simplest answer is that not many people - relatively speaking - know her songs.  I know I don't.  I was curious so I sampled some of her stuff on iTunes.

She had a decent showing on iTunes throughout the top 1500, which is great.  Just nothing well-known enough to really make a huge splash in the upper rankings.

There's also the fact that her death happened after the tracking period for this week's chart ended, so it wouldn't be possible for her songs to chart this week anyway. She could have a chance to chart next week but only a very small chance considering, as you said, she isn't that well-known.

That's true, it would be next week... but I feel like charting on the Hot 100 these days is tough off sales alone... without HUGE sales, I mean.  You gotta really make an impact. She just doesn't have songs with that kind of impact.  Maybe some sub- or genre-based sales charts?  Does she have some christian-qualifying songs for that chart?

[jenglisbe]

Jun 13, 2016 18:14:10 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jun 13, 2016 18:10:39 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Except you're forgetting the bigger picture. It's not like One Dance isn't right behind Justin on the other metrics. Justin may be #1 in sales and airplay, but his streaming is really low comparatively. Likewise, Drake is strong in all metrics.

Just think back to when Gangnam Style never got to #1. It was because it's airplay was nowhere near good enough to outdo the fact that One More Night was strong on all three metrics.

And.... based on streaming's numbers in general, it's big. But how big is it really?  Figuring the formula for the metrics has gotta be so. damn. hard.

We are a society that is not used to big hits stemming from songs which most of us don't hear on the radio that much. They've always gone hand in hand, really. Panda is a perfect example of this change. I don't hear it on the radio, ever, and so I don't think to myself  "this is huge" but that's only because I never hear it. Clearly there are a lot of people who choose to listen to it, a lot.  So who am I?

Well, and with streaming it's hard to know how many people are listening to it versus a smaller amount of people listening to it a lot. Obviously to be #1 or #2 in streams a lot of people are listening period, but it's still hard to know with streaming how generally popular a song is.

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

Ugh. This bullshit again.

Let's not act like One Dance wasn't just #1 in airplay not too long ago & still close behind. Let's not act like One Dance hasn't been top 3 in sales.

Just admit that you're more mad that the song you have a vested interest in is being blocked. If it were performing well in streaming, I doubt you'd be bitching as much.

[Au$tin]

Essentially, as an inverse point system for last week's stats

Justin - 43 (streaming); 50 (sales); 50 (airplay) = 143

Drake - 49 (streaming); 49 (sales); 49 (airplay) = 147

Desiigner - 50 (streaming); 47 (sales); 40 (airplay) = 137

So you can easily see here why Drake is over Justin. Justin just trails way too much in streaming to overtake the fact that Drake is #2 in all metrics.

#1, #1, #8 does not beat #2, #2, #2.

So why is Desiigner ahead? Well, he is #1 in streaming, so we have no way to compare just how strong of a #1 he is based off of position alone. His streams are very high, enough to where that #1 > #8 lead in streaming over Justin is probably just enough to overtake the lead Justin has in sales and airplay.

[House Lannister]

Jun 13, 2016 17:29:01 GMT -5 Mike is BAD said:

And the 69 cent songs are invading iTunes again, expect a "Try Everything" re-entry at a new peak. Also, I don't get why Christina Grimmie is not invading...after her death...getting shot...at age 22...

Also, there's the fact that she isn't quite as established as some of those who died this year alone (Prince, David Bowie, Lemmy).

But having refreshed myself with some of her highlights on the Voice, I realized that she had good potential and talent.

[MTSChart21]

Jun 13, 2016 13:52:55 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Sia! Wondering if this might actually end up out-peaking Chandelier?

Definitely should out peak Chandelier. I'm calling this to finish in the top 3 on the summer songs chart

[Sherane Lamar]

Maybe the guy was just marveling at how ridiculously popular Panda is in streaming, rather than whining about the system?

Unless there's some context that I'm not realizing, lol.

[badrobot]

"One Dance" appears to be part of a new annual tradition -- a summer #1 that spends most of its reign without topping the component charts.

2014: "Rude" by Magic! (with a wide mix of Iggy Azalea, Meghan Trainor, Rixton, and Sam Smith primarily competing)
2015: "Cheerleader" by OMI (with The Weeknd, Taylor Swift, and Silento primarily competing)
2016: "One Dance" by Drake (with Justin Timberlake, Desiigner, and Lukas Graham competing)

[85la]

Jun 13, 2016 13:12:27 GMT -5 Kurt said:

Jeez, everyone's jumping ship from Billboard! I started stalking following a bunch of them in like 2012 and there are maybe three left from then (Gary, Keith, Silvio). :(

Where are they jumping ship to? What is the circulation/website hits for them lately anyway, has it been going down or up? I never hear too much about that.

[Dylan :)]

Jun 13, 2016 18:52:05 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jun 13, 2016 18:46:01 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

There's also the fact that her death happened after the tracking period for this week's chart ended, so it wouldn't be possible for her songs to chart this week anyway. She could have a chance to chart next week but only a very small chance considering, as you said, she isn't that well-known.

That's true, it would be next week... but I feel like charting on the Hot 100 these days is tough off sales alone... without HUGE sales, I mean.  You gotta really make an impact. She just doesn't have songs with that kind of impact.  Maybe some sub- or genre-based sales charts?  Does she have some christian-qualifying songs for that chart?

She also isn't really known for her own work, just her covers. I think her albums and EPs getting the boosts they are shows people are in interested in her music but not any specific song, so they're getting all of them.