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Post by truemusicreviews on Aug 13, 2016 23:14:14 GMT -5
We all fucked up with "Closer".
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Post by felipe on Aug 14, 2016 7:06:51 GMT -5
What type of dance music isn't EDM? Any dance music made without using electronic instruments. Part of the confusion is that "EDM" as a term didn't really come around until more recently. So, some "dance" songs that might now fall under "EDM" weren't called that, say, 20 years ago. So for people who have been following music for a few decades now, EDM is really more of a new term and also something that fits newer dance music. To younger people who have known EDM since they began following music, it's just a normal term for dance music. Is there current dance music that wouldn't fall under EDM? Is every song you can dance to classified as "dance music"? Say, Single Ladies or Thinking out Loud? I remember there being a discussion here about 2 weeks ago whether Cheap Thrills classified as dance music or not. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 14, 2016 7:28:54 GMT -5
Any dance music made without using electronic instruments. Part of the confusion is that "EDM" as a term didn't really come around until more recently. So, some "dance" songs that might now fall under "EDM" weren't called that, say, 20 years ago. So for people who have been following music for a few decades now, EDM is really more of a new term and also something that fits newer dance music. To younger people who have known EDM since they began following music, it's just a normal term for dance music. Is there current dance music that wouldn't fall under EDM? Is every song you can dance to classified as "dance music"? Say, Single Ladies or Thinking out Loud? I remember there being a discussion here about 2 weeks ago whether Cheap Thrills classified as dance music or not. For my money music has become way too genre-fied, and the questions you are asking are a prime example. Very few songs are strictly one type of music, for one, and more so there are so many different genres now. I do think "dance" music generally refers more to 'club' type dancing than the type of dancing you'd do to "Thinking Out Loud," though. |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Aug 14, 2016 8:54:22 GMT -5
We all f**ked up with "Closer". Did you mean to post that in the prediction thread?
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Post by Soulsista on Aug 14, 2016 10:09:13 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
August 29, 1981
01 01 Endless Love - Diana Ross & Lionel Richie (3rd of 9 weeks at #1)
02 04 Slow Hand - The Pointer Sisters
03 02 Theme From Greatest American Hero - Joey Scarbury
04 06 Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Stevie Nicks w/Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
05 05 Jessie's Girl - Rick Springfield
06 08 Queen Of Hearts - Juice Newton
07 09 (There's) No Gettin' Over Me - Ronnie Milsap
08 15 Urgent - Foreigner
09 10 Lady (You Bring Me Up) - The Commodores
10 11 Who's Crying Now - Journey
August 30, 1986
01 02 Higher Love - Steve Winwood (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 Venus - Bananarama
03 01 Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
04 07 Take My Breath Away - Berlin
05 06 Dancing On The Ceiling - Lionel Richie
06 12 Friends & Lovers - Gloria Loring & Carl Anderson
07 11 Sweet Freedom - Michael McDonald
08 09 Rumors - Timex Social Club
09 15 Stuck With You - Huey Lewis & The News
10 04 Mad About You - Belinda Carlisle
August 31, 1991
01 01 (Everything I Do) I Do It For You - Bryan Adams (6th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 04 Fading Like a Flower (Every Time You Leave) - Roxette
03 02 It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over - Lenny Kravitz
04 07 Wind Of Change - The Scorpions
05 08 The Promise Of a New Day - Paula Abdul
06 03 Every Heartbeat - Amy Grant
07 09 3AM Eternal - KLF
08 10 I Can't Wait Another Minute - Hi-Five
09 11 Motownphilly - Boyz II Men
10 12 Things That Make You Go Hmmmm... - C&C Music Factory feat. Freedom Williams
August 24, 1996
01 01 Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio (4th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 09 I Love You Always Forever - Donna Lewis
03 06 Loungin' - LL Cool J feat. Total
04 02 Twisted - Keith Sweat
05 03 C'Mon N' Ride It (The Train) - The Quad City DJ's
06 04 You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton
07 05 Change The World - Eric Clapton
08 07 I Can't Sleep Baby (If I) - R. Kelly
09 08 How Do U Want It / California Love - 2Pac feat. K-Ci & JoJo
10 10 Give Me One Reason - Tracy Chapman
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Post by Soulsista on Aug 14, 2016 10:30:07 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
August 21, 1961 (For the week ending August 26)
01 01 Tossin' & Turnin' - Bobby Lewis (7th and final week at #1)
02 05 Wooden Heart - Joe Dowell
03 06 Michael - The Highwaymen
04 03 Last Night - The Mar-Keys
05 02 I Like It Like That - Chris Kenner
06 11 You Don't Know What You've Got - Ral Donner
07 07 Pretty Little Angel Eyes - Curtis Lee
08 04 Dum Dum - Brenda Lee
09 08 Let's Twist Again - Chubby Checker
10 10 School Is Out - Gary U.S. Bonds
August 27, 1966
01 01 Summer In The City - The Lovin' Spoonful (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Sunny - Bobby Hebb
03 06 See You In September - The Happenings
04 03 Lil Red Riding Hood - Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs
05 10 Sunshine Superman - Donovan
06 04 Wild Thing - The Troggs
07 28 You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes
08 52 Yellow Submarine - The Beatles
09 09 I Couldn't Live Without Your Love - Petula Clark
10 16 Summertime - Billy Stewart
August 28, 1971
01 01 How Can You Mend a Broken Heart - The Bee Gees (4th and final week at #1)
02 03 Take Me Home, Country Roads - John Denver
03 08 Signs - The Five Man Electrical Band
04 04 Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology) - Marvin Gaye
05 02 Mr. Big Stuff - Jean Knight
06 06 Sweet Hitch-Hiker - Creedence Clearwater Revival
07 10 Liar - Three Dog Night
08 12 Smiling Faces Sometimes - The Undisputed Truth
09 14 Spanish Harlem - Aretha Franklin
10 24 Go Away Little Girl - Donny Osmond
August 28, 1976
01 01 Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John & Kiki Dee (4th and final week at #1)
02 02 You Should Be Dancing - The Bee Gees
03 03 Let 'Em In - Wings
04 04 You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine - Lou Rawls
05 05 I'd Really Love To See You Tonight - England Dan & John Ford Coley
06 06 (Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
07 12 Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry
08 13 A Fifth Of Beethoven - Walter Murphy
09 09 Get Closer - Seals & Crofts
10 11 This Masquerade - George Benson
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Post by atg on Aug 14, 2016 22:10:49 GMT -5
Does anyone know Luv's position
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Post by Leaf on Aug 14, 2016 22:44:32 GMT -5
Predictions: | Rank | Song | Sales | Airplay | Streams | Points | | 1 | Cheap Thrills | 60 | 155 | 13.5 | 33,400 | | 2 | Cold Water | 70 | 65 | 20.0 | 31,000 | | 3 | This is What You Came For | 35 | 135 | 15.0 | 29,900 | | 4 | One Dance | 35 | 130 | 15.0 | 29,400 | | 5 | Heathens | 100 | 20 | 18.0 | 28,100 | | 6 | Ride | 45 | 125 | 12.0 | 27,500 | | 7/8 | Can't Stop The Feeling | 60 | 125 | 9.5 | 27,000 | | 7/8 | Closer | 85 | 30 | 17.5 | 27,000 | | 9 | Don't Let Me Down | 35 | 105 | 14.0 | 26,000 | | 10 | Needed Me | 30 | 85 | 15.5 | 24,800 | | 11 | Send My Love | 40 | 110 | 9.0 | 23,000 | | 12/13 | Let Me Love You | 115 | 5 | 8.0 | 20,000 | | 12/13 | Into You | 55 | 55 | 10.0 | 20,000 |
* Cheap Thrills should comfortably remain #1. * Cold Water should climb back to #2 while Heathens is also looking to crack Top-5. * Let Me Love You will debut at #12 or #13. This would mean 3 artists double up in the top 10 at once (Rihanna, twenty one pilots, The Chainsmokers)...not that common, is it? |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 14, 2016 22:47:09 GMT -5
Predictions: | Rank | Song | Sales | Airplay | Streams | Points | | 1 | Cheap Thrills | 60 | 155 | 13.5 | 33,400 | | 2 | Cold Water | 70 | 65 | 20.0 | 31,000 | | 3 | This is What You Came For | 35 | 135 | 15.0 | 29,900 | | 4 | One Dance | 35 | 130 | 15.0 | 29,400 | | 5 | Heathens | 100 | 20 | 18.0 | 28,100 | | 6 | Ride | 45 | 125 | 12.0 | 27,500 | | 7/8 | Can't Stop The Feeling | 60 | 125 | 9.5 | 27,000 | | 7/8 | Closer | 85 | 30 | 17.5 | 27,000 | | 9 | Don't Let Me Down | 35 | 105 | 14.0 | 26,000 | | 10 | Needed Me | 30 | 85 | 15.5 | 24,800 | | 11 | Send My Love | 40 | 110 | 9.0 | 23,000 | | 12/13 | Let Me Love You | 115 | 5 | 8.0 | 20,000 | | 12/13 | Into You | 55 | 55 | 10.0 | 20,000 |
* Cheap Thrills should comfortably remain #1. * Cold Water should climb back to #2 while Heathens is also looking to crack Top-5. * Let Me Love You will debut at #12 or #13. This would mean 3 artists double up in the top 10 at once (Rihanna, twenty one pilots, The Chainsmokers)...not that common, is it? Super rare... And four artists doubling up in the top 13, with Bieber |
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Post by imbondz on Aug 15, 2016 8:59:50 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to know the closest top 10 ever. What was the closest gap ever between #10 and #1?
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Post by imperialmarch on Aug 15, 2016 10:42:17 GMT -5
Predictions: | Rank | Song | Sales | Airplay | Streams | Points | | 1 | Cheap Thrills | 60 | 155 | 13.5 | 33,400 | | 2 | Cold Water | 70 | 65 | 20.0 | 31,000 | | 3 | This is What You Came For | 35 | 135 | 15.0 | 29,900 | | 4 | One Dance | 35 | 130 | 15.0 | 29,400 | | 5 | Heathens | 100 | 20 | 18.0 | 28,100 | | 6 | Ride | 45 | 125 | 12.0 | 27,500 | | 7/8 | Can't Stop The Feeling | 60 | 125 | 9.5 | 27,000 | | 7/8 | Closer | 85 | 30 | 17.5 | 27,000 | | 9 | Don't Let Me Down | 35 | 105 | 14.0 | 26,000 | | 10 | Needed Me | 30 | 85 | 15.5 | 24,800 | | 11 | Send My Love | 40 | 110 | 9.0 | 23,000 | | 12/13 | Let Me Love You | 115 | 5 | 8.0 | 20,000 | | 12/13 | Into You | 55 | 55 | 10.0 | 20,000 |
* Cheap Thrills should comfortably remain #1. * Cold Water should climb back to #2 while Heathens is also looking to crack Top-5. * Let Me Love You will debut at #12 or #13. This would mean 3 artists double up in the top 10 at once (Rihanna, twenty one pilots, The Chainsmokers)...not that common, is it? Last week heatens was also said to rise to the top 10( it reached 11), so what is different now, because suicide squads hype is smaller compared to last week. Did it pick up airplay/streaming? |
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Post by badrobot on Aug 15, 2016 11:03:02 GMT -5
^ I think Cold Water is gonna be #1 on the 9/3 or 9/10 chart, stay there for a couple weeks, then get passed by Closer I think we could see a 3-way fight for #1 next week! Cheap Thrills - 55-155-12.5 = 32,000 Cold Water - 65-75-20.5 = 31,800 Closer - 100-40-20.0 = 31,800 Interesting!!! If this is indeed next week's top 3 (in any order) it would be my personal strongest top 3 in quite some time. I feel like we've had a bunch of good late summer songs show up. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 11:05:05 GMT -5
This would mean 3 artists double up in the top 10 at once (Rihanna, twenty one pilots, The Chainsmokers)...not that common, is it? Last week heatens was also said to rise to the top 10( it reached 11), so what is different now, because suicide squads hype is smaller compared to last week. Did it pick up airplay/streaming?Gains in all 3 metrics. Well over 50% increase in sales alone this week. This tracking week started with the Friday the movie came out, so it makes sense that the song would do considerably better this week over last week. |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 15, 2016 11:12:49 GMT -5
What type of dance music isn't EDM? Any dance music made without using electronic instruments. Part of the confusion is that "EDM" as a term didn't really come around until more recently. So, some "dance" songs that might now fall under "EDM" weren't called that, say, 20 years ago. So for people who have been following music for a few decades now, EDM is really more of a new term and also something that fits newer dance music. To younger people who have known EDM since they began following music, it's just a normal term for dance music. The term EDM is a marketing ploy in America. There are cultural associations with terms like "techno" and "dance" music that makes them unmarketable in a pop setting. Calling a dance song "EDM" makes it more marketable. |
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Post by Soulsista on Aug 15, 2016 11:18:54 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback
August 25, 2001
01 01 Fallin' - Alicia Keys (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 04 I'm Real - Jennifer Lopez
03 02 Let Me Blow Ya Mind - Eve feat. Gwen Stefani
04 03 Hit 'Em Up Style (Oops!) - Blu Cantrell
05 06 U Remind Me - Usher
06 07 Where The Party At - Jagged Edge feat. Nelly
07 12 It's Been Awhile - Staind
08 08 All Or Nothing - O-Town
09 10 Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me) - Train
10 11 Hanging By a Moment - Lifehouse
August 26, 2006
01 01 London Bridge - Fergie (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Crazy - Gnarls Barkley
03 03 Promiscuous - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland
04 04 Me & U - Cassie
05 05 Buttons - The Pussycat Dolls feat. Snoop Dogg
06 07 (When You Gonna) Give It Up To Me - Sean Paul feat. Keyshia Cole
07 10 I Write Sins Not Tragedies - Panic! At The Disco
08 08 Ain't No Other Man - Christina Aguilera
09 14 Sexy Love - Ne-Yo
10 12 Shoulder Lean - Young Dro feat. T.I.
August 27, 2011
01 02 Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - Katy Perry (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & Goonrock
03 08 Moves Like Jagger - Maroon 5 feat. Christina Aguilera
04 03 Super Bass - Nicki Minaj
05 05 Lighters - Bad Meets Evil feat. Bruno Mars
06 06 How To Love - Lil Wayne
07 04 Give Me Everything - Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
08 13 Pumped Up Kicks - Foster The People
09 07 I Wanna Go - Britney Spears
10 11 Good Life - OneRepublic
13 NE Headlines - Drake
August 29, 2015
01 02 Cheerleader - OMI (5th of 6 weeks at #1)
02 01 Can't Feel My Face - The Weeknd
03 04 Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) - Silento
04 05 Lean On - Major Lazer & DJ Snake feat. MØ)
05 11 The Hills - The Weeknd
06 07 Fight Song - Rachel Platten
07 09 Trap Queen - Fetty Wap
08 10 My Way - Fetty Wap feat. Monty
09 06 Bad Blood - Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar
10 12 Good For You - Selena Gomez feat. A$AP Rocky
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 13:15:34 GMT -5
100 You Look Like I Need A Drink (Debut)
84 Cool Girl (Tove Lo) (Debut)
81 Starving (+15)
50 Sorry (Bieber) (-5)
43 Make Me.. (+24)
41 Hymn For The Weekend (-1)
29 Rise (+14)
28 All In My Head (Flex) (-4)
19 We Don't Talk Anymore (=)
15 Sucker For Pain (+23)
14 Treat You Better (+4)
13 Into You (+9)
12 Let Me Love You (Debut, #1 Sales)
11 Send My Love (To Your New Lover) (-1)
10 Needed Me (=)
9 Can't Stop The Feeling! (-5)
8 Don't Let Me Down (-2)
7 Ride (=)
6 Closer (+3)
5 One Dance (-2)
4 Heathens (+7) [21P first Alternative duo/group with two simultaneous top 10s]
3 This Is What You Came For (=)
2 Cold Water (+3) (#1 Streams, 19.6 million )
1 Cheap Thrills (=)
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Post by MTSChart21 on Aug 15, 2016 13:43:14 GMT -5
6. Closer - YES!
4. Heathens - YEEESSSSSS!!!
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Post by allow that on Aug 15, 2016 14:06:32 GMT -5
Possibly the last week in the top 10 for CSTF. Good riddance.
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Post by badrobot on Aug 15, 2016 14:22:37 GMT -5
If Send My Love re-enters the top ten and peaks at #8 it'll join the Chandelier/Boom Clap/Cake By The Ocean 12-8 club (songs that bounced around in that range for months).
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Aug 15, 2016 14:32:11 GMT -5
Hopefully last week for Cheap Thrills at #1 too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 14:38:19 GMT -5
I wonder if Kehlani's Gangsta managed 2 enter the chart give the sales off SS & the music video, I hope it did.
Also finally Sorry is gonna fucking die next week.
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Post by House Lannister on Aug 15, 2016 14:46:50 GMT -5
I'm kinda hoping but cringing that Thomas Rhett's Vacation made the cut this week.
It was bubbling under right next to You Look Like I Need a Drink.
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Post by Ravi on Aug 15, 2016 15:08:09 GMT -5
Hopefully last week for Cheap Thrills at #1 too. Seems likely. Next week Closer should most probably be #1. 1. Closer - 33k 2. Cold Water - 31.5k 3. Cheap Thrills - 31k 4. TIWYCF - 28.5k 5-7 Heathens - 27.5k 5-7 One Dance - 27.5k 5-7 Ride - 27.5k |
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Post by Leo ✔ on Aug 15, 2016 15:39:56 GMT -5
I really prefer Closer
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Post by flextamcsignals on Aug 15, 2016 15:44:12 GMT -5
I'm kinda hoping but cringing that Thomas Rhett's Vacation made the cut this week. Same, just to see Spectrum Pulse's reaction. He's gonna be PISSED. |
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Post by Mike is BAD on Aug 15, 2016 17:41:40 GMT -5
Hopefully last week for Cheap Thrills at #1 too. Seems likely. Next week Closer should most probably be #1. 1. Closer - 33k 2. Cold Water - 31.5k 3. Cheap Thrills - 31k 4. TIWYCF - 28.5k 5-7 Heathens - 27.5k 5-7 One Dance - 27.5k 5-7 Ride - 27.5k Wow I have Closer at #4. |
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Post by Parerastarr10 on Aug 15, 2016 19:32:18 GMT -5
Nice to see Heathens rise so high. If the reaction to SS hadn't die off after the first week, I think if could've had a shot @ #1. Either way peaking inside the top 5 is great, and well deserved.
Happy to see Sia remain #1 for a month straight. If this is to be her last week at #1 she can be very proud of what her single achieved.
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Post by forg on Aug 15, 2016 21:04:09 GMT -5
Could Into You sneak in to the top 10 eventually?
Rooting for Closer as well
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Post by 85la on Aug 15, 2016 21:32:05 GMT -5
Could Into You sneak in to the top 10 eventually? Rooting for Closer as well It's definitely looking like it could, as it's making consistent gains each week in all metrics. It would deserve it too, as I think it's probably her best single yet. As songs are still staying at number one for a very long time, I have a feeling that neither Cold Water or Closer will take over, and that it will be something else a little further down the line, but I hope I'm wrong, because it would be nice for things to keep shaking up. Really surprised to learn that rock and alternative acts are so rarely in the top ten with 2 songs. I wonder if Maroon 5 were to be classified as rock, if they've ever achieved the feat? |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Aug 16, 2016 9:09:14 GMT -5
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